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I didn’t have a problem with Otter getting pulled — the team was flat and about to get steamrolled — but I thought DeBoer’s postgame remarks were weird and tone-deaf. And he hasn’t done any damage control since the final game.

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Surely you guys can't keep DeBoer after that, right?  This is turning into a him vs. Otter situation.  And I know who I would pick if I were the Stars.  So maybe I should root for Pete to stay?

 

I have no idea why he felt like throwing Oettinger under the bus was the right move after the game.

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11 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

Surely you guys can't keep DeBoer after that, right?  This is turning into a him vs. Otter situation.  And I know who I would pick if I were the Stars.  So maybe I should root for Pete to stay?

 

I have no idea why he felt like throwing Oettinger under the bus was the right move after the game.

Word trickling out that some of the Stars players said in their exit meetings they were not pleased with how DeBoer handled the Western Conference Finals. What exactly that means, who knows. DeBoer's track record is four seasons or so at each stop -- does his message wear thin sooner than later? Guess we'll see. I think we can agree that DeBoer has some fences to mend if he's to return to coach a fourth season in Dallas.

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12 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

Surely you guys can't keep DeBoer after that, right?  This is turning into a him vs. Otter situation.  And I know who I would pick if I were the Stars.  So maybe I should root for Pete to stay?

 

I have no idea why he felt like throwing Oettinger under the bus was the right move after the game.

I said it in the Stars thread after the game. I was shocked at DeBoer's inability to keep it to BS coach speak post-game.   I get beyond frustrated with a 3rd straight WCF loss but you can't throw players under the bus end of the season.  Particularly the goalie that had an overall really good playoff run.   Pete was much better on Saturday but have to keep emotions under control.   Whether or not he should have been benched can certainly be debated but once the series was lost need to keep your composure.  Reading between the lines he didn't do it in the locker room post game either.

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If it comes down to DeBoer vs. Otter than DeBoer is going to lose just based on the contracts.   If it comes down to DeBoer vs. veteran players that didn't do shit during the playoffs then send those players packing and free up some cap space.  

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2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

nothing highlights how awesome he and Josh are like having to endure the SC playoffs with jagoff announcers that call your players by the wrong name. completely and utterly deserved. I've watched a lot of the opposing sides' broadcasts and he is indeed one of the best, if not the goat

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bob sturm is pretty convinced that they're trading robertson and it's because he doesn't do enough in the playoffs.  he's a know-it-all but also the most plugged in of the big DFW media guys. 

 

i'm not really sure how the stars can get a halfway decent return for robertson with their current cap situation.  any player that would make the trade palatable is making more than robertson ($7.75m) or is due for a payday too.  

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5 hours ago, jebusshuttlecock said:

bob sturm is pretty convinced that they're trading robertson and it's because he doesn't do enough in the playoffs.  he's a know-it-all but also the most plugged in of the big DFW media guys. 

 

i'm not really sure how the stars can get a halfway decent return for robertson with their current cap situation.  any player that would make the trade palatable is making more than robertson ($7.75m) or is due for a payday too.  

I'm with Sturm. Said it earlier, or maybe in the other thread, I've wondered this from the beginning with him. Great regular season scorer but can he consistently score in 5v5 playoff situations where you don't have the time and space to move around like in the regular season? He's a big guy (6-3, 207) that doesn't really create his own space through strength or fight. Most of his goals come when he's gotten himself wide open and he snipes one past the goalie. 40% of his playoff points have come on the power play (29% in regular season games). That doesn't happen as much in the playoffs, especially as you get deeper into the postseason and the opponents get stronger. Here's Robo's career playoff resume:

  • 2022 vs Calgary (Stars lose in 7): 1G-3A (All 4 points come at even strength and he's +3 for the series)
  • 2023 vs Minnesota (Stars win 1st round in 6): 2G-5A (Six of his seven points come on the PP and he's even for the series)
  • 2023 vs Seattle (Stars win 2nd round in 7): 0G-5A (Three of his five points come at even strength and he's +1 for the series)
  • 2023 vs Vegas (Stars lose in 6): 5G-1A (Two of his five goals and the assist come on the PP and he's +1 for the series)
  • 2024 vs Vegas (Stars win in 7): 3G-2A (Two of his three goals are on the PP and he's -5 for the series)
  • 2024 vs Colorado (Stars win in 6): 0G-7A (Four of his seven assists are on the PP and he's +2 for the series)
  • 2024 vs Edmonton (Stars lose in 6): 3G-1A (gets an assist in G1 and a hat trick in G3 -- all four points at even strength and he's a +1 for the series)
  • 2025 vs Colorado (does not play due to injury)
  • 2025 vs Winnipeg (Stars win in 6): 0G-1A (obviously rusty due to missing a few weeks to injury, his lone assist comes on PP and he's a -3 for the series)
  • 2025 vs Edmonton (Stars lose in 5) 4G-1A (Three of his four goals and four of his five points come at even strength and he's a -2 for the series)
  • TOTAL: 28 playoff games (18G-26A, 44 points, -4 rating; 11G-15A, 26 points at even strength, 7G-11A, 18 points on the PP)
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I'm sure the Stars can't get him but I saw The Athletic's list of the 50 best FA's this offeason -- #2 is Sam Bennett, who would be a god-send to this team. He's 100% what we need. (That list was speckled with Stars -- Duchene #11, Granlund #14, Benn #21, Ceci #28 and Dadonov #43.)

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4 hours ago, C-Man said:

I'm sure the Stars can't get him but I saw The Athletic's list of the 50 best FA's this offeason -- #2 is Sam Bennett, who would be a god-send to this team. He's 100% what we need. (That list was speckled with Stars -- Duchene #11, Granlund #14, Benn #21, Ceci #28 and Dadonov #43.)


Sounds like they should have just stopped the list at top 20. 

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