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There was an overwhelming power/strength advantage on the UF side across the board. Not a size advantage, they were just stronger and more physical than our guys. A little bit faster overall too but it wasn’t as glaring. That’s a huge and maybe our biggest problem. Play calling wasn’t it, we routinely had receivers running wide open. But that’s  irrelevant when your o-line is getting their faces shoved in the couch.

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3 hours ago, satyanash said:

This is the exact same excuse A&M fans used after the 2022 season. "It was a super young team!!1!"

Jimbo lasted just ten more games.

Thinking we are now in a transition year isn't an excuse. I think it's become the reality. 

Before the year started, I thought we were championship contenders, but even then I thought 2026 squad would be a better team. You lose Ant Hill, Taaffe, probably Muhammad, but tons of talent returns. Offensively Arch would be in his second year as a starter with very few important pieces on that side heading to the NFL draft. 

Our OL is a disaster, Arch needs more time to blossom than we thought, RB room is deep but so far lacking anyone with real juice that can overcome poor or questionable OL play. 

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1 hour ago, DreadHead said:

This is clearly Mack Brown's doing... his return to Austin and inject himself in what was our winning trajectory, absolutely cursed us and derailed the program. His meddling will be our downfall, again.... 😖

https://www.si.com/college/texas/football/former-texas-longhorns-coach-mack-brown-worries-about-impact-current-nil-model

"Although the former Texas Longhorns head coach believes programs "should've paid players forever," he has expressed concerns about the way in which players are currently paid."

That's one aspect of NIL/paying players that I kinda didn't like. What happens if you give some 18 year old a million dollars and they just flat out can't play? At least in the NFL you've seen enough to know who can play, and what the value is.

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1 hour ago, Josef Pwag said:

Concern #2 is is not doing the deep dive on the psychological collapse of Arch. It is why aren't we starting the best possible QB against OU? 

I don't know how anyone could watch that game and think Arch was the big problem.   The color commentator must have been negative to skew everyone's thoughts because I was getting texts all game as well, but from the stands 20 rows up I watched our line get their asses kicked all game long, zero running game, and Arch get hit constantly. Anyone that thinks fucking Caldwell would have came in and dominated because he threw one good ball is insane. There isn't a QB in this country that could have had a good day throwing the football when we can't run the ball and can't fucking block 4 in max protect.  Arch was forced to play hero ball basically from possession #1.

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12 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I don't know how anyone could watch that game and think Arch was the big problem.   The color commentator must have been negative to skew everyone's thoughts because I was getting texts all game as well, but from the stands 20 rows up I watched our line get their asses kicked all game long, zero running game, and Arch get hit constantly. Anyone that thinks fucking Caldwell would have came in and dominated because he threw one good ball is insane. There isn't a QB in this country that could have had a good day throwing the football when we can't run the ball and can't fucking block 4 in max protect.  Arch was forced to play hero ball basically from possession #1.

It's the same people that wanted to bench Quinn for Arch last year. And who always want the backup QB

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2 hours ago, someguy said:

I think it is now clear that the NFL style program that Sark has sought to implement is a massive failure.  NFL players are grown men who have made it through the college ranks as elite players, and with small roster sizes most players have to scratch and claw to obtain and maintain their roster spot.  They have the maturity and professionalism to handle a professional mindset.

Sark has said to anyone who will listen that Texas was going to pace themselves to prepare for a 16 game season.  Implicit in that is that Texas will, naturally of course - by virtue of how highly ranked and outlandishly talented the players are - make the playoff.  The regular season is for preparing to peak in the post season.  They ditched the spring game.  They eased up on fall camp.  They've been less physical in practice.  Sark openly talks about wanting to avoid running the team down, wanting to avoid injuries.  There is some wisdom in that, but wherever the ideal balance is, Texas is far away from that.

That works in the NFL with professionals.  We're learning that doesn't work with college players.  It creates a soft culture.  Players who aren't finished products but act like they are.  

There were a handful of players who left it all on the field Saturday.  The majority were largely indifferent.  Attitude reflects leadership.  This is a self inflicted lost year.  I hope adjustments are made and the program gets back to acting like wins are earned and not assumed.

Thanks for posting this as I know you seem to have some inside insight. I posed a question about this somewhere on here yesterday. 

It's shocking how much the trenches have regressed compared to other Sark years. And it's not just the new players: Goosby has regressed after playing impeccably last year against good opponents. We are 99th in TFLs right now with a returning cast of DEs/LBs who lived in the backfield last year. Tackling was terrible this weekend.

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Just now, Tex-19 said:

It's the same people that wanted to bench Quinn for Arch last year. And who always want the backup QB

Arch had one really bad series I recall specifically (the 3 and out right before the blocked punt where he missed 2 throws although would need to see on rewatch if he might have been hit on one of those).  But that's to be expected at times.  I thought he played pretty well for chunks of the game.  Do you know what this team can't have?  A defense that gives up a long TD drive right after you cut it to 10-7 and might have momentum + a punt team that completely misses an assignment and lets someone go free to give up a safety.   You can live with a bad series from time to time from your QB if other units aren't shitting the bed simultaneously.

But I have no doubt Arch is going to get blamed again for stalled drives this week when he's going to be put in an impossible position.  If you can stop the run with a light box and get pressure with 4, they can just alternate dropping DB's everywhere and selective pressure.   We are so easy to gameplan against right now if you have just a "plus" defense that it's embarrassing and OU is fantastic up front.  I think we are absolutely going to have to play Arch hero ball to have a chance because we flat out don't have the personnel to run the offense Sark wants to run.

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One thing that hasn't been talked about much here is tackling. Their RBs probably averaged 3 yards after the first tackler arrived which makes a HUGE difference in converting 1st downs. 3rd and 7 vs 3rd and 4. And that's before even talking about the secondary like the long Wilson TD. 

Meanwhile our RBs once again went down on first contact every time.

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3 hours ago, someguy said:

I think it is now clear that the NFL style program that Sark has sought to implement is a massive failure.  NFL players are grown men who have made it through the college ranks as elite players, and with small roster sizes most players have to scratch and claw to obtain and maintain their roster spot.  They have the maturity and professionalism to handle a professional mindset.

Sark has said to anyone who will listen that Texas was going to pace themselves to prepare for a 16 game season.  Implicit in that is that Texas will, naturally of course - by virtue of how highly ranked and outlandishly talented the players are - make the playoff.  The regular season is for preparing to peak in the post season.  They ditched the spring game.  They eased up on fall camp.  They've been less physical in practice.  Sark openly talks about wanting to avoid running the team down, wanting to avoid injuries.  There is some wisdom in that, but wherever the ideal balance is, Texas is far away from that.

That works in the NFL with professionals.  We're learning that doesn't work with college players.  It creates a soft culture.  Players who aren't finished products but act like they are.  

There were a handful of players who left it all on the field Saturday.  The majority were largely indifferent.  Attitude reflects leadership.  This is a self inflicted lost year.  I hope adjustments are made and the program gets back to acting like wins are earned and not assumed.

It's so weird that anyone that is truly connected and in the know has the same opinion. 

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1 hour ago, Red Five said:

The parallels between the 2008-2010 seasons and the 2023-2025 seasons are creepy. Seriously, think about each of those and how they match up.

 I don't want to believe it, but this looks eerily like the beginning of the end results. What's worse is our HC is also our OC, playcaller, and the guy we brought in to have a decided schematic advantage on offense. The fact that he couldn't foresee this complete disaster coming on HIS side of the ball is a big ass red and butterteeth colored flag.

After enduring the Mack Brown era, I chuckle at the fanbases in the stages of clinging to offseason assistant coaching changes as the magic snake oil cure for their program. So I guess now we're in this stage of the process:

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28 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I don't know how anyone could watch that game and think Arch was the big problem.   The color commentator must have been negative to skew everyone's thoughts because I was getting texts all game as well, but from the stands 20 rows up I watched our line get their asses kicked all game long, zero running game, and Arch get hit constantly. Anyone that thinks fucking Caldwell would have came in and dominated because he threw one good ball is insane. There isn't a QB in this country that could have had a good day throwing the football when we can't run the ball and can't fucking block 4 in max protect.  Arch was forced to play hero ball basically from possession #1.

Are we still doing this nonsense? Just because every other offensive unit had serious problems against Florida doesn't mean Arch doesn't still have problems. He threw two interceptions from clean pockets and threw what should have been a third by screwing up a simple RPO. He also had a meltdown on the game's final drive, eating TWO sacks in a situation when everyone on the field and at home knew we could not afford to give up even one.

 

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37 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I don't know how anyone could watch that game and think Arch was the big problem.  

For the UF game, the o-line was the worst problem. Still, Arch was a massive problem. They aren't mutually exclusive. He isn't well. Under no circumstances should he be starting against OU....but he will. 

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6 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Are we still doing this nonsense? Just because every other offensive unit had serious problems against Florida doesn't mean Arch doesn't still have problems. He threw two interceptions from clean pockets and threw what should have been a third by screwing up a simple RPO. 

If you watched that game and thought Arch was "the problem" you're a moron.  If we got that Arch against OSU where the D was dialed in and special teams flipped the field constantly we probably win.   I never said he played a great game.  But he wasn't a top 10 problem on the field Saturday.

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5 minutes ago, Josef Pwag said:

Under no circumstances should he be starting against OU....but he will. 

JFC.  You're right, we should throw out a non-athletic Caldwell in his first start at Texas with an absolute shit OL in one of the most unique environments in sports that he's never seen.   That should be the actual game plan and not the emergency plan.  Got it.  

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To drive home the point for those claiming Arch should be benched based on the Florida game, Florida had 35 pressures (believe the 2nd most any P4 team has allowed this entire season) while only rushing 4 on 85% of snaps.   Our RB's had 15 combined yards on 11 carries.    You think there is a QB in the country that is going to excel against that?  We went to max protect frequently and still couldn't protect. 

I think most will agree that Colt was the best passing QB we've had.   Go back and look at his stat lines in the OU and Nebraska games his senior year that we barely won where our OL and running games similarly completely shit the bed in front of him.   Hint. It wasn't pretty.   I walked away from that game feeling much better about Manning's potential than I had at any other point this season and I think anyone that understands football or hadn't already decided that he is unsalvageable would think the same.

 

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32 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Are we still doing this nonsense? Just because every other offensive unit had serious problems against Florida doesn't mean Arch doesn't still have problems. He threw two interceptions from clean pockets and threw what should have been a third by screwing up a simple RPO. He also had a meltdown on the game's final drive, eating TWO sacks in a situation when everyone on the field and at home knew we could not afford to give up even one.

 

Murray is above breaking down all 3 of those. His thoughts on those: 

1. Arch is beat too early on that one and a bit high. Not brutal int, actually rather see him a beat early.. 

2. Wingo with a poor route and Arch with a poor decision. 

3. That was bad. You have to just spike it there and take the L. 

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26 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Are we still doing this nonsense? Just because every other offensive unit had serious problems against Florida doesn't mean Arch doesn't still have problems. He threw two interceptions from clean pockets and threw what should have been a third by screwing up a simple RPO. He also had a meltdown on the game's final drive, eating TWO sacks in a situation when everyone on the field and at home knew we could not afford to give up even one.

 

Well, I may be wrong, but I do watch a whole lot of other QB's on Saturday and see a whole lot of them do the same things. Things that don't receive near the same scrutiny because they aren't QB at The University of Texas. For a So. in his 7th start and absolutely no help, running for his life at a rate not ever seen by UT QB before, I just don't think he was THAT BAD. And I don't think #39 in the country is THAT BAD for a So. with what he's going through. He's actually higher than that gooner QB who's supposed the be the Hypsman favorite. Yes, I know that's a joke, but we was running #1 on a lot of lists before the injury.

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/individual/8

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At this point, I'm looking over my shoulder at the Not-Even-Seven-Wins of '21 and the collapse into six consecutive Ls for the first time in 65 years. 

Of course, that can't happen, right?

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15 hours ago, Fondren & Main said:

Chris Doering.  He’s a bigger dickfaced tool than the king…Trev fucking Alberts.  I fucking hate that prick.  The only saving grace for me is that aggy or Florida MUST lose next weekend because they play each other.  If aggy loses, great.  If Florida loses, then I get to watch that whiny cocksucker bitch and moan on the post game shows.  He’s a grade A douchebag and I hate the son of a bitch.  Fuck you, Cunt Doering!

but Doering got a touchdown.

Preventing the ole’ Ball Coach from losing to Vandy is worth something to older Gata  fans.

Now Aggy’s tiny peni will be swoll and on a sacred mission to beat Florida…you know…..to show up the sips.

 FML

 

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3 minutes ago, TexasExe14 said:

Arch was not the problem on Saturday. But Arch is a problem.

I have more faith in him getting better this year than the Oline.

This is a reasonable take. Arch has improved greatly from OSU and that UTEP debacle. Arch needs to improve. The playmaking ability is obvious. He needs to raise the floor to his game. Still too many WTF plays every game. 

The OL is a much bigger concern at this point and big reason why Arch is probably going to continue to have WTF moments. 

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1 hour ago, Skipper said:

I don't know how anyone could watch that game and think Arch was the big problem.   The color commentator must have been negative to skew everyone's thoughts because I was getting texts all game as well, but from the stands 20 rows up I watched our line get their asses kicked all game long, zero running game, and Arch get hit constantly. Anyone that thinks fucking Caldwell would have came in and dominated because he threw one good ball is insane. There isn't a QB in this country that could have had a good day throwing the football when we can't run the ball and can't fucking block 4 in max protect.  Arch was forced to play hero ball basically from possession #1.

Riddick was pretty fair to Arch.  

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4 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

In the long run emotion doesn’t help.  Rational decisions are what’s needed.  There’s no way to tell from a PC if that’s what’s occurring.   The PCs are worthless except for personnel news.

His offense shows that exact lack of emotion as he does. 

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16 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

This is a reasonable take. Arch has improved greatly from OSU and that UTEP debacle. Arch needs to improve. The playmaking ability is obvious. He needs to raise the floor to his game. Still too many WTF plays every game. 

The OL is a much bigger concern at this point and big reason why Arch is probably going to continue to have WTF moments. 

He definitely needs to get better but he is no longer the biggest shit show on the team.   He made some nfl throws the last few weeks.  Less groundballs as well

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One of the things that irks me the most about Sark’s tenure thus far is the continued use of the All Gas No Brakes slogan. They need to retire that shit yesterday.

We’ve seen a shitload of brakes and very little gas and the trend line for that is depressing as fuck.

Looks like his philosophy is expecting to coast and get to the destination with plenty of gas in the tank and I’m not a big fan of the results.

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2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Thinking we are now in a transition year isn't an excuse. I think it's become the reality. 

Before the year started, I thought we were championship contenders, but even then I thought 2026 squad would be a better team. You lose Ant Hill, Taaffe, probably Muhammad, but tons of talent returns. Offensively Arch would be in his second year as a starter with very few important pieces on that side heading to the NFL draft. 

Our OL is a disaster, Arch needs more time to blossom than we thought, RB room is deep but so far lacking anyone with real juice that can overcome poor or questionable OL play. 

Disagree.

 

31 is a fucking beast and he didn’t get a touch on Sat.

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