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Rankings out. I thought there might be a chance UGA passed A&M but last week the committee praised Indiana’s grittiness in overcoming a struggle against a talented team that didn’t live up to its preseason billing—- so tough to reverse course out of that.

 

I continue to be unpersuaded by anti-ND takes. I can see bumping up Bama a spot, maybe, and if Miami is sitting pretty at the end it will be a discussion. Other than that, no team behind them with a solid argument for a better resume or eye test. Pitt and USC are good wins, their losses aren’t bad, and they have handled business against P5 opponents across the board. And Navy is beginning to look like a top-tier G5 win. 
 

1. Ohio State (10-0)

2. Indiana (11-0)

3. Texas A&M (10-0)

4. Georgia (9-1)

5. Texas Tech (10-1)

6. Ole Miss (10-1)

7. Oregon (9-1)

8. Oklahoma (8-2)

9. Notre Dame (8-2)

10. Alabama (8-2)

11. BYU (9-1)

12. Utah (8-2)

13. Miami (8-2)

14. Vanderbilt (8-2)

15. USC (8-2)

16. Georgia Tech (9-1)

17. Texas (7-3)

18. Michigan (8-2)

19. Virginia (9-2)

20. Tennessee (7-3)

21. Illinois (7-3)

22. Missouri (7-3)

23. Houston (8-2)

24. Tulane (8-2)

25. Arizona State (7-3)

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Teams and storylines to watch:

- Ole Miss: This is a team that seems solidly in the playoffs but Joey Freshwater has introduced a lot of needless drama. What if the distraction leads to a flop in the Egg Bowl? What if he calls a bluff and bails before the CFP? Long shot, high stakes. Ingredients are there for a spectacular explosion but will someone light the fuse? 
 

- Bama: Not in danger— yet. But DeBoer teams don’t have the killer instinct. Bama went from weeks of the most impressive football in the country and Heisman play from Simpson to mortal. There are rivalries where the better team usually wins, and there are rivalries where all bets are off: the Iron Bowl is the latter. Also intriguing is the possibility of a non-competitive CCG loss to drop to three losses. 
 

- Oregon and USC: A great race between old and new money to win the PAC-10. Wait, no. A race to be the third Big 10 team in. What are we doing? Anyway, Oregon can finish strong with wins over USC and Washington to maybe angle for a top 5 seed. USC can spoil that and get a CFP appearance for the first time by beating Oregon. Great, high-stakes football between two talented but not quite elite teams. 
 

- ACC Chaos: Who wants to win here? Miami has the longest odds of contenders but will be the angriest if a two loss ND gets in ahead of them. GaTech can beat Pitt and get to the CCG. Other teams need help along the way, including the aforementioned Pitt, Virginia, and even SMU still lurking. This race is wide open, and the champ will likely not be the highest ranked team. Such are superconferences. 
 

-Texas: To stay alive they have to thump—not just best— A&M in Austin. Oh, and also avoid a letdown against Arkie. Should be easy, right? The voices will be loud, but the non-competitive loss at UGA means a showout against A&M is needed; and even then it may not be enough. The loss to tOSU isn’t the killer. Rather, its the Florida game and the UGA result. The committee looks at that and sees a team that had a late-season shot at a top-tier team, and just didn’t match up. 

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11 minutes ago, D3zii said:

We’re gonna need more than just to beat Arky and thump A&M to get in at this point. 

If we do those things and still don’t get in, I won’t be mad at 9-3, all things considered. I’d be thrilled, but so be it. 

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9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

If we do those things and still don’t get in, I won’t be mad at 9-3, all things considered. I’d be thrilled, but so be it. 

If we do those things, we shouldn't be mad if we don't get in because of the humiliation we suffered by Georgia. But if we don't do those things the pitch forks need to come out.

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2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Rankings out. I thought there might be a chance UGA passed A&M but last week the committee praised Indiana’s grittiness in overcoming a struggle against a talented team that didn’t live up to its preseason billing—- so tough to reverse course out of that.

 

I continue to be unpersuaded by anti-ND takes. I can see bumping up Bama a spot, maybe, and if Miami is sitting pretty at the end it will be a discussion. Other than that, no team behind them with a solid argument for a better resume or eye test. Pitt and USC are good wins, their losses aren’t bad, and they have handled business against P5 opponents across the board. And Navy is beginning to look like a top-tier G5 win. 
 

1. Ohio State (10-0)

2. Indiana (11-0)

3. Texas A&M (10-0)

4. Georgia (9-1)

5. Texas Tech (10-1)

6. Ole Miss (10-1)

7. Oregon (9-1)

8. Oklahoma (8-2)

9. Notre Dame (8-2)

10. Alabama (8-2)

11. BYU (9-1)

12. Utah (8-2)

13. Miami (8-2)

14. Vanderbilt (8-2)

15. USC (8-2)

16. Georgia Tech (9-1)

17. Texas (7-3)

18. Michigan (8-2)

19. Virginia (9-2)

20. Tennessee (7-3)

21. Illinois (7-3)

22. Missouri (7-3)

23. Houston (8-2)

24. Tulane (8-2)

25. Arizona State (7-3)

haha.  so loss column if you are Big 10/SEC(don't be fooled by the Mich/tex swap for appearances), sprinkle in a couple of ACC/Big 12 to make it look good.

If we don't play OSU we are 8 or 9.  too funny.

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IF Texas handles business against Arky and Aggy, then I think Sark needs to wear his lobbyist hat and remind the committee they said preseason that Texas nor Ohio State would be "punished" for losing that game. Texas could have played Boston College or Syracuse in tOSU's spot and gotten a win that would have helped them reach the 10 win threshold. Unfortunately our resume would have looked a lot better with a win over a middling ACC team in week 1 than a 7 point loss on the road to a top 3 (now #1) program, and the powers that be say they want more marquee regular season non-con games like Ohio State v. Texas. 

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6 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

IF Texas handles business against Arky and Aggy, then I think Sark needs to wear his lobbyist hat and remind the committee they said preseason that Texas nor Ohio State would be "punished" for losing that game. Texas could have played Boston College or Syracuse in tOSU's spot and gotten a win that would have helped them reach the 10 win threshold. Unfortunately our resume would have looked a lot better with a win over a middling ACC team in week 1 than a 7 point loss on the road to a top 3 (now #1) program, and the powers that be say they want more marquee regular season non-con games like Ohio State v. Texas. 

Our problem is not just our record but also the way we played all season. We dominated no one, lost to a pretty bad Florida team and got embarrassed by UGA. 

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22 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

Our problem is not just our record but also the way we played all season. We dominated no one, lost to a pretty bad Florida team and got embarrassed by UGA. 

I won't side with Sark on his assessment that we dominated Vandy. The score is the score and you can't pretend the 4th quarter didn't happen like he wanted everyone to. 

However, I would argue that we did dominate Oklahoma on a neutral field, and OU is in a position to be a playoff team. If we beat aggy by multiple scores, thats two playoff teams we dominated, and one borderline playoff team (vandy) that we beat in regulation. 
And for the record, I don't think we're in the playoffs if we beat Arky and aggy, but I am presenting the best argument in favor of Texas being in the playoffs. 

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6 hours ago, UTEE97 said:

Our problem is not just our record but also the way we played all season. We dominated no one, lost to a pretty bad Florida team and got embarrassed by UGA. 

Pretty much.  OU is our only impressive game full stop.

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9-3 Texas isn't making it in and neither is 10-2 Texas with a win against rice and the loss to Florida and blowout to Georgia. You guys need to put the crack pipe down. 

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That hypothetical 10-2 Texas would still have had wins over OU, Vanderbilt, and handed undefeated Aggie their only loss.  Would not be surprised if they managed to squeak in (at expense of OU probably).

Honestly there aren't 12 legitimate title contenders in a single season, and I agree that the team is obviously not one this season even if they would have made the playoffs with a different schedule.

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7 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Oh now we are being shamed for smoking crack. Can’t have anything nice anymore 

No, it's good to be cracked out sometimes. This isn't one of those times. 

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14 minutes ago, immamac said:

9-3 Texas isn't making it in and neither is 10-2 Texas with a win against rice and the loss to Florida and blowout to Georgia. You guys need to put the crack pipe down. 

This is an objectively wrong and laughably bad assessment. 2 loss Texas makes it 100% of the time.  Thank you for your attention to this matter. 

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19 minutes ago, immamac said:

No, it's good to be cracked out sometimes. This isn't one of those times. 

Okay, as long you're not trying to take my crack pipe away from me, mein Fuhrer 

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It also seems logical that one of the B1G and one of the SEC teams respectively in the Top 5 would slide down after CCG weekend, and Tech would get a Bye for the Top 4 seeds, should they win the B12 CCG.

I'm not holding my breath on shenanigans not happening.

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55 minutes ago, WBT said:

Pretty much.  OU is our only impressive game full stop.

IF we beat aggy, it will be viewed as impressive win if you only go by the W/L record aggy will have to date.   But I bet almost immediately some in the sports media will start pointing out how weak aggy's schedule ended up being, especially from the media members who are lobbying for other teams to get in front of us if we end with three loses.    

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

9-3 Texas isn't making it in and neither is 10-2 Texas with a win against rice and the loss to Florida and blowout to Georgia. You guys need to put the crack pipe down. 

This is silly.    that 10-2 will be with wins over vandy, OU and 11-0 aggie.

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2 hours ago, El Hornarino said:

That hypothetical 10-2 Texas would still have had wins over OU, Vanderbilt, and handed undefeated Aggie their only loss.  Would not be surprised if they managed to squeak in (at expense of OU probably).

Honestly there aren't 12 legitimate title contenders in a single season, and I agree that the team is obviously not one this season even if they would have made the playoffs with a different schedule.

Yeah, 10-2 Texas with that résumé would be in. 

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9 hours ago, perfectchaos007 said:

I won't side with Sark on his assessment that we dominated Vandy. The score is the score and you can't pretend the 4th quarter didn't happen like he wanted everyone to. 

However, I would argue that we did dominate Oklahoma on a neutral field, and OU is in a position to be a playoff team. If we beat aggy by multiple scores, thats two playoff teams we dominated, and one borderline playoff team (vandy) that we beat in regulation. 
And for the record, I don't think we're in the playoffs if we beat Arky and aggy, but I am presenting the best argument in favor of Texas being in the playoffs. 

OU led us at the half and came back in the second half strong to win it. There are pundits who argue that if Mateer was 100% healthy in that game, the outcome could have been different. That argument aside, we played down to our competition way too many times to make us seem like a playoff team. We earned no style points when we should have. 

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45 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

Yeah, 10-2 Texas with that résumé would be in. 

no, they are not.

This isn't a vacuum. Look at the other 2 loss team resume

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26 minutes ago, immamac said:

no, they are not.

This isn't a vacuum. Look at the other 2 loss team resume

Serious question. Where would Texas be ranked right now at 8-2 with losses to Florida and Georgia.  And where would Texas be ranked if they finished 10-2. They’d be the 5th SEC team at worst, by the way. 

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44 minutes ago, immamac said:

no, they are not.

This isn't a vacuum. Look at the other 2 loss team resume

 

15 minutes ago, MrX said:

Serious question. Where would Texas be ranked right now at 8-2 with losses to Florida and Georgia.  And where would Texas be ranked if they finished 10-2. They’d be the 5th SEC team at worst, by the way. 

Right... and h-t-h over OU. Plus, Texas would be coming off the best week 14 win to end the the regular season with a massive victory. With the SEC likely getting five in this year, Texas would almost certainly be in. If the SEC doesn't get five in, it's because Alabama, Ole Miss, or OU drops one of their remaining games that they shouldn't, which would still put 10-2 Texas in. An 8-2 Texas would be ranked no worse than 11th right now. Beating undefeated A&M would make that even better.

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incorrect 

Spoiler

they got blown the fuck out by Georgia and were hardly competitive with Florida. No one cares about the Ohio State loss even if you replace it with a rice win or some other bullshit win. They played like such dogshit against SJSU that they wouldn't have stayed #1 and probably would have dropped to at least 2, maybe even 3 or 4 based on the rest of their dogshit ooc schedule that they didn't take care of business for. So they would likely have been similarly ranked when they LOST TO UNRANKED DOGSHIT Florida BY TWO FUCKING SCORES (one technically, because 2 pt conversion, but fuck off it was a 2 score game). They would have dropped out of the polls either way. Manning looked like ass. The second half of OU was magical, but it doesn't make up for sucking shit through a straw in Kentucky and Mississippi state, then coming home and whipping a fraudulent vandy team, then turning around and getting blown the fuck out by Georgia in a more than 3 score assfucking. 

other 2 loss teams (don't count ohio state loss and count it as a whatever win)

Notre Dame - Losses to Miami (lol) and a robbery loss to TAMU on the last play of a game - a must if they win out

Oklahoma - Losses to Texas, ugly but rivalry, and down to the wire Ole Miss a real contender one loss team - a real contender

Alabama - Losses to FSU, WTF early season loss, and down to the wire w/ Oklahoma - a real contender

Miami - Two wtf losses to louisville and SMU - certified ACC dogshit.

Vandy - Losses to Texas and Alabama - a pretender trying to be a contender.

USC - Losses to a decent Illinois and Notre Dame - A wildcard deserving a spot if they win out

MICH - losses to Oklahoma (not good, but freshman qb first big away game), a contender and USC a good team - a wildcard earning a spot if they win out

Texas - Losses to absolute dogshit florida by 2 scores and a complete fucking blowout by georgia a real contender - 

 

Theres 8 no or 1 loss teams. So out of the above you can pick a maximum of 4 teams. ND and Alabama are for sure in barring chaos. that's 2 teams left out of that group. Oklahoma wins out and they are in, you can't take that away from them. so 1 team left. Out of every other team available there with everyone winning out you choose Texas over a USC or Michigan that knock off Oregon or Ohio State? - now lets say that none of that does happen, then sure Texas looks like it has the furthest outside shot left, except OH MY GOD WE NEED A G5 TEAM AND AN ACC LOSER FUCK TEAM - theres no room for Texas in this playoff with it's resume EVEN IF IT HAD ONLY 2 LOSSES.

 

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13 hours ago, Js1 said:

If we do those things and still don’t get in, I won’t be mad at 9-3, all things considered. I’d be thrilled, but so be it. 

The bright side will be a year in which we beat OU, A&M, and Arkansas.  Small consolation, but not nothing.

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The bright side will be a year in which we beat OU, A&M, and Arkansas.  Small consolation, but not nothing.

Again, I would be absolutely thrilled if we finished 9-3 by beating top 10 OU and top 5 aggy. 

Missing the playoffs? Our own damn fault for losing to Florida, because 10-2 Texas with only losses to Ohio State and Georgia gets in. 

9-3, with a chance at a solid-ish bowl game (Citrus Bowl gets first pick for the highest ranked non-SEC playoff team, and if we beat aggy, we should leapfrog Vandy to be that team) 

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Everyone should stop scheduling ND OOC. These ND homers have made it clear with these “rankings” that the only party that benefits from a regular season matchup with ND is ND. 

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2 hours ago, UTEE97 said:

OU led us at the half and came back in the second half strong to win it. There are pundits who argue that if Mateer was 100% healthy in that game, the outcome could have been different. That argument aside, we played down to our competition way too many times to make us seem like a playoff team. We earned no style points when we should have. 

I don't understand why Vandy roaring back in Q4 counts against us, UGA running away from us in Q4 counts against us, but we don't get credit for a 20-0 second half against OU.  Be consistent, for fuck's sake.

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5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I don't understand why Vandy roaring back in Q4 counts against us, UGA running away from us in Q4 counts against us, but we don't get credit for a 20-0 second half against OU.  Be consistent, for fuck's sake.

When you're outside looking in, then negatives are amplified by the doubters. Not rocket science! Nobody is saying the OU game didn't matter, but people also saw Mateer struggling in his first game after surgery and there were videos of him literally bleeding from the same hand. It's like people saying this is not the same Arch we saw early in the year.

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13 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

When you're outside looking in, then negatives are amplified by the doubters. Not rocket science! Nobody is saying the OU game didn't matter, but people also saw Mateer struggling in his first game after surgery and there were videos of him literally bleeding from the same hand. It's like people saying this is not the same Arch we saw early in the year.

Every team has injury issues that we can use to over-parse results.  Texas fans are unique in that we do it to our own team.  I've been following Texas football for over 40 years and this is absolutely a nearly unique and persistent phenomenon.  Let's all wear hairshirts and flog ourselves while we're at it.

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28 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I don't understand why Vandy roaring back in Q4 counts against us, UGA running away from us in Q4 counts against us, but we don't get credit for a 20-0 second half against OU.  Be consistent, for fuck's sake.

Vandy scoring with 30 seconds left to still be down 3 is just making the scoreboard more respectable from 10-3. 

Texas never had possession of the ball with the ability to make it a tie game or take the lead In the entirety of the 2nd half. 

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4 hours ago, Nueces River Rat said:

A similar graphic could be made for aggy this season.

True but they at least participate in the SEC, where ND has no conference. One less potential game re: conference champ game. And being in no conference, they have no conference schedule to worry about. They can schedule whomever they want. They lost to aggy and Miami this year, win the rest of their shitty schedule, and are in because they are ND. Yes, they got to the national championship game last year but that doesn't discount their path is unlike any other team out there, they aren't apart of a conference.

Also, aggy at least won all their games so far, one being against ND. ND lost both their toughest games so far.

 

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Just now, immamac said:

Vandy scoring with 30 seconds left to still be down 3 is just making the scoreboard more respectable from 10-3. 

Texas never had possession of the ball with the ability to make it a tie game or take the lead. In the 2nd half. 

Vandy was inches away from recovering the onside kick. With how that game was unfolding and how terrible our defense was, Vandy gets the ball back they probably go score to win in an all-time collapse. That was close to a SC/aggy collapse done in the final quarter. A lot of what Vandy was doing looked to be just garbage time and making the score look more respectable until it became very real we had a chance to lose the game. Thankfully, the ball or player went out of bounds before they could secure the onside. 

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7 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

True but they at least participate in the SEC, where ND has no conference. One less potential game re: conference champ game. And being in no conference, they have no conference schedule to worry about. They can schedule whomever they want. They lost to aggy and Miami this year, win the rest of their shitty schedule, and are in because they are ND. Yes, they got to the national championship game last year but that doesn't discount their path is unlike any other team out there, they aren't apart of a conference.

Also, aggy at least won all their games so far, one being against ND. ND lost both their toughest games so far.

 

Absolutely.    They've been getting the love for decades now since the Lou Holtz days for being something they are really not.  How many teams got pushed out of a BCS bowl  game  or the four team playoff format because of the media generated love they get?

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1 minute ago, Vic Mackey said:

Vandy was inches away from recovering the onside kick. With how that game was unfolding and how terrible our defense was, Vandy gets the ball back they probably go score to win in an all-time collapse. That was close to a SC/aggy collapse done in the final quarter. A lot of what Vandy was doing looked to be just garbage time and making the score look more respectable until it became very real we had a chance to lose the game. Thankfully, the ball or player went out of bounds before they could secure the onside. 

They didn't quit and that's admirable. They still got fucking blown out and even a crazy comeback couldn't save them. 

The game was over, then vandy kept playing like it wasn't and made the scoreboard better. 

The Georgia game was never close after georgia scored their TDs. 

You call a 1:51 second 3 and out close? 

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So like idk what fucking planet you guys live on, but 14-3 isn't a close game. 14-10 isn't close when it becomes 21-10 on the next possession after 2 4th down conversions and 10 play 6 minute 75 yard drive as the answer. It was a 2 score game the entire night save that 7:51 seconds.

Some of you actually just don't watch the game of know what the fuck you are talking about it seems. 

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