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Right before the rioting in the streets and actual pain for Republican mismanagement and fucking everything up. There's no way they don't grow a fucking pair they have to see that this is the wrong thing to do when is the vote? 

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

Its actually insane that the narrative will literally be that the Democratic party caused the shutdown now and its actually fully deserved. Holy absolute fuck. 

And they'll get blamed for the increase in Obamacare subsidies.

Because scared centrists caved for no reason and Chuck Schumer can't lead.

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3 minutes ago, immamac said:

Its actually insane that the narrative will literally be that the Democratic party caused the shutdown now and its actually fully deserved. Holy absolute fuck. 

Yep.  Why did you put us through all of this if you weren’t gonna get anything out of it?

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3 minutes ago, immamac said:

Its actually insane that the narrative will literally be that the Democratic party caused the shutdown now and its actually fully deserved. Holy absolute fuck. 

They let a shutdown happen for no reason.  It was completely pointless because they didn't get a single concession out of it.

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17 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

So the democrats got the republicans to agree to hold a vote on something they are just going to vote down? Do I have that correct?

Do you now support the ACA and the subsidies that prop up that dysfunctional system? Cause I remember you being a pretty vocal opponent. 

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Just now, Anastasis said:

You don't. 

Sure. I'll just not vote for a Democrat in a race against a Republican in the United States where third party candidates are bigger losers than Democrats.

Yeah. I'll do that.

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Just now, kevwun said:

They let a shutdown happen for no reason.  It was completely pointless because they didn't get a single concession out of it

They have made Donald Trump right. This is so fucking crazy. How are the dems such pussies, they should physically restrain their dem counterparts from voting. 

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Just now, David Dennison said:

Sure. I'll just not vote for a Democrat in a race against a Republican in the United States where third party candidates are bigger losers than Democrats.

Yeah. I'll do that.

It doesn't have to be this way, but as long as people continue to play the two party system game, there is no way out. Channel your frustration into something useful maybe, cause continuing to pull the lever for the D (as well as the Rs) isn't helping anything, 

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Just now, immamac said:

They have made Donald Trump right. This is so fucking crazy. How are the dems such pussies, they should physically restrain their dem counterparts from voting. 

Chuck Schumer might be the worst leader in the history of the Senate.

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5 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I love threesomes. I'd love to be a part of one someday. -Michael Scott, -Wayne Gretzky. 

Not the two I would pick but you do you 

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Just now, Anastasis said:

It doesn't have to be this way, but as long as people continue to play the two party system game, there is no way out. Channel your frustration into something useful maybe, cause continuing to pull the lever for the D (as well as the Rs) isn't helping anything, 

But it is this way. Pissing away votes for hopeless candidates isn't going to accomplish anything other than empowering the party you oppose.

This is America.

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2 minutes ago, kevwun said:

They let a shutdown happen for no reason.

Only to saddle themselves with the responsibility for it when it becomes clear that it only takes a few to flip to fix the shutdown. Just horribly ineffective and blow up in your face politics. 

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5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Shit like this is why people stop voting. 

No. This is the way people keep voting, despite everything. 


There are basically three ways that people make and find meaning: to improve people’s lives, to right a wrong, or to prevent the end of something good.  None of those things involve actually buying into the idea that some jive ass 115er student government type is going to do what you wish they would.

Saving the Republic and punishing the GOP is my why. What’s yours?

1 minute ago, immamac said:

So these mother fuckers are voting to end america right now? 

No, this pack of sad bitches on here are just really easily demoralized.

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Just now, Bozo_Casanova said:

No. This is the way people keep voting, despite everything. 


There are basically three ways that people make and find meaning: to improve people’s lives, to right a wrong, or to prevent the end of something good.  None of those things involve actually buying into the idea that some jive ass 115er student government type is going to do what you wish they would.

Saving the Republic and punishing the GOP is my why. What’s yours?

Punishing the GOP.

LOL

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2 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

There are basically three ways that people make and find meaning: to improve people’s lives, to right a wrong, or to prevent the end of something good.

God help the person relying on our political system to find meaning in their life.  

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Just now, TexArcher said:

The Democrats Are Right On Every Issue But They're Literally the Worst Group of Politicians Ever, Vol. 14,683.

But you see, TexArcher, just be cynical and vote against Republicans to teach them a lesson. 

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Come on guys. If this shit held over the next few weeks into holiday travel season, it was going to be a shit show. The dems that caved did the right thing. It was an absurdity to shutdown the government over ACA subsidies that were time limited by D design.  

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Just now, Anastasis said:

Come on guys. If this shit held over the next few weeks into holiday travel season, it was going to be a shit show. The dems that caved did the right thing. It was an absurdity to shutdown the government over ACA subsidies that were time limited by D design.  

The whole fucking point was to make it entirely on the Republicans. If the dems cave now this whole thing was for nothing at all. 

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2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Come on guys. If this shit held over the next few weeks into holiday travel season, it was going to be a shit show. The dems that caved did the right thing. It was an absurdity to shutdown the government over ACA subsidies that were time limited by D design.  

And why do you think they were designed that way?

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Just now, immamac said:

The whole fucking point was to make it entirely on the Republicans. If the dems cave now this whole thing was for nothing at all. 

I agree with that take. That was the play, and the D's just played themselves politically by caving. 

 

But in the real world, this is a good thing. If this stretched through Tday and into December it would have been a total shit show.  

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

And why do you think they were designed that way?

You tell me. 

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1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

I agree with that take. That was the play, and the D's just played themselves politically by caving. 

 

But in the real world, this is a good thing. If this stretched through Tday and into December it would have been a total shit show.  

You tell me. 

Yeah the shit show had to happen that's the entire point. There is now absolutely no leverage at all. 

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Just now, immamac said:

Yeah the shit show had to happen that's the entire point. There is now absolutely no leverage at all. 

Oh, but Donald Trump and the Republicans get to crow about ending the shutdown, thereby taking all of the political credit.

I can't believe this is the party of LBJ. They have no understanding of power.

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33 minutes ago, immamac said:

It’s actually insane that the narrative will literally be that the Democratic party caused the shutdown now and it’s actually fully deserved. Holy absolute fuck. 

“The narrative” that will change literally zero votes. Yes. Democrats are pussies. Not news.  But they’ve wrung about all the political value out of this shutdown they can. Republicans lost the shutdown because it made them less popular. Democrats were already at their floor. 

33 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

You are a fucking idiot and you should stop stealing air.

Post less.

Maybe the real shutdown was the friends we made along the way.

29 minutes ago, kevwun said:

They let a shutdown happen for no reason.  It was completely pointless because they didn't get a single concession out of it.

Dude. Opposition parties can’t usually get anything. But they can throw sand in the gears and they did. They left a little on the table this time but basically accomplished what they could here.

If I was Schumer I would have held them together until the week of thanksgiving but all in all this wasn’t badly played. 

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Just now, Bozo_Casanova said:

Dude. Opposition parties can’t usually get anything. But they can throw sand in the gears and they did. They left a little on the table this time but basically accomplished what they could here.

They didn't accomplish shit.

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They held out for a Republican promise to kick them in the nuts again on a vote.  That's less than nothing.

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3 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

“The narrative” that will change literally zero votes. Yes. Democrats are pussies. Not news.  But they’ve wrung about all the political value out of this shutdown they can. Republicans lost the shutdown because it made them less popular. Democrats were already at their floor. 

Maybe the real shutdown was the friends we made along the way.

Dude. Opposition parties can’t usually get anything. But they can throw sand in the gears and they did. They left a little on the table this time but basically accomplished what they could here.

If I was Schumer I would have held them together until the week of thanksgiving but all in all this wasn’t badly played. 

They accomplished literally nothing and are now the entire reason that anything was fucked up at all. 

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So the whole purpose politically is to get a vote where the republicans vote against the subsidies for ACA publicly and then the Dems get to blame them for the rising premiums Americans are about to see.  Does that pretty much sum up what the Dems are doing here.  

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3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

They didn't accomplish shit.

 

2 minutes ago, kevwun said:

They held out for a Republican promise to kick them in the nuts again on a vote.  That's less than nothing.

 

1 minute ago, immamac said:

They accomplished literally nothing and are now the entire reason that anything was fucked up at all. 


 

Exactly and republicans will be able to say “see I told you so” and point to nothing given up to end the democrats shutdown. Bozo is showing he’s a clown again with these takes.

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

They accomplished literally nothing and are now the entire reason that anything was fucked up at all. 

Democrats are the reason people who depend on food aid or ACA subsidies got hosed? 

1 minute ago, Covri said:

Exactly and republicans will be able to say “see I told you so” and point to nothing given up to end the democrats shutdown. Bozo is showing he’s a clown again with these takes.

Oh no Republicans will say mean things

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1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Democrats are the reason people who depend on food aid or ACA subsidies got hosed? 

You think the Masters of Spin in the Democratic caucus will convince people otherwise?

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2 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Democrats are the reason people who depend on food aid or ACA subsidies got hosed? 

Oh no Republicans will say mean things

They get to say mean things AND BE RIGHT 



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