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  1. I keep hearing Flash Flood Alley and most dangerous flood plain in the US. Yet a community that makes quite a bit of money from tourists and campers and their parents in the months most likely to have flooding did not want to pay for a warning system bc it was too expensive. It reminds me of the movie Dante’s Peak where a town resides in the valley of a volcano. 🌋 Of all the things I have heard of the past couple of days I think this stubbornness that “well it floods a lot here but it won’t ever get that bad” mentality was a ticking time bomb. It is the mentality. ————————— Camp Mystic sits on a strip known to locals as “flash flood alley.” “When it rains, water doesn’t soak into the soil,” said Austin Dickson, CEO of the Community Foundation of the Texas Hill Country, which was collecting donations. “It rushes down the hill.” Decades prior, floodwaters engulfed a bus of teenage campers from another Christian camp along the Guadalupe River during devastating summer storms in 1987. A total of 10 campers from Pot O’ Gold Christian camp drowned after their bus was unable to evacuate in time from a site near Comfort, 33 miles (53 kilometers) east of Hunt. ————————— power of nature + local mentality that they will never have the ultimate disaster despite living in their words the most dangerous flash flooding alley in the US is the main factor (not the only one) but it seems that way to me. We all know there are other factors. But this was a disaster waiting to happen. And it seems like the locals owed in my mind their tourists, their campers and families of the campers on the backs of whom they make a healthy monetary cash influx an early warning system in that county to keep them all safe. And now July 4th will be symbolic for tragedy. And they didn’t want to spend the money on a necessary system that could have spared many of the deceased who aren’t even old enough to vote, and in many cases aren’t even big enough to ride most of the rides in theme parks. that’s how I see it. I’m pissed and hurt and like many of you need to take a break from the tragedy and find some peace. There has been zero word from my two cousins (who each have a friend missing a child) on the two girls that have not yet been found. Keep praying for a miracle despite all evidence to the contrary. The numbers are rising.
  2. Their class, should it hold together, would be a first step in acquiring the level of talent Texas, tOSU, and Georgia have acquired over three or four years. Their coaching staff is not elite by any means, will they fund that, too? It would be expensive to draw established high quality coaches to that graveyard for careers. In A&M's most formidable years, even when they dominated the SWC, they could not make themselves elite. Their covid year ranking followed up by the bestest recruiting class ever has all gone to shit. Their performance has never, by a long shot, matched their recruiting rankings as far as I know. I guess the question I have, and I pose it to @closetojumping and anyone else with insight, is what is the big change has happened at A&M that should persuade me that they're going to rise from Texas 8&4? Elko? Facilities? Sustainable talent acquisition with top coaching staff? I know it's been discussed before, but I humble ask for the latest opinions. Thanks.
  3. One of the camp counselors who was there Katharine Somerville (I think I got the spelling right from the tv) and she is a Hunt, Texa native is describing the event. And just how isolated they were until they were eventually rescued by the National Guard. She has been in touch with all of her campers, they all survived. All of those that were moved to Cypress lake are safe (which we knew.) she said she feels confident her community is resilient and will be able to rebuild. That’s it really. She teared up when speaking of Mr Eastland as being a father figure and hero to many.
  4. I think the most damning look of what Piastri did was from the Safety Car. I agree it could be a bit harsh but under those terrible conditions I think it was justified. Great race by Niko Hulk. That team is really doing some things correctly, especially behind the scenes. Mercedes, wow. Just wow. Yuki can't make it to the end of the season? For Max to drive such a shit car to where he finished was awesome. Well done by Aston as well. We give Lance a ton of shit but, he did well today. Well done by Gasly too. I was hoping Bearman would get 10th. Pretty decent day for Williams as well.
  5. If you’re in the care of others, especially when parents have entrusted you to watch over their children, someone should be mindful of current conditions at all times. Especially if there is awareness of potential problems. An overriding problem is that we’re all human and we all look to trends or patterns. And the pattern is that most flood warnings don’t lead to a catastrophic flood. I dont have kids, and growing up we weren’t camp-goers. I would have guessed there would be someone awake monitoring what is happening even just helping a camper with an issue in the middle of the night. The more kids on-site, the more people with the night watch, and said watch should be clear when to alert any sleeping camp directors. im not criticizing any particular camp or their procedures. I work off an assumption they all have procedures to quickly move kids to a safe location whether it’s a flood, fire, intruder, etc.
  6. He still lies about all of those things. Here, I'll make it easier and switch to past perfect: Why didn't we see... I didn't suppose anyone would believe that I was not suggesting that this is a pattern.
  7. Her father was the one going through the debris at the camp in the UT shirt. I couldnt finish watching the interview.
  8. Imagine being a Mariners fan right now. They've won two in a row, 6-4 in their last 10 and still 7 gms back after scoreboard watching the Astros beat the Dodgers twice in two games in LA. Seattle has only gained ground maybe twice in the last month or so, and that was because of an Astros loss/M's win on a day the other team was off. They haven't won the same day we've lost since June 8th.
  9. Well, appears we have two threads now. WSJ reports 67 dead now. We still have 11 missing campers and one counselor from Mystic.
  10. Not sure what the deal is with that Kerr country sheriff update. Obviously I hope that number is correct, but from friends in contact with Mystic Im being told 4 girls found, 21 still missing. That was last night. My down the street neighbors little girl was confirmed missing this morning. We were still holding out hope that her name being mentioned was still a rumor, I havent felt comfortable texting the parents. Our kids have played together a million times. We go to the same Church. It was the last one where I actually convinced myself there could be a chance. My 8 year old still has no idea kids are missing. This one is gonna land hard for my boys.
  11. I'm late to this and didn't read everything since. Perfectly made point. If even the appearance of maybe telling a lie is newsworthy, why don't we see a single headline saying Trump Lies About Immigrant as Criminals? Trump Lies About Biden. Trump Lies About Project 2025. Trump Takes Monster Bribe from Saudis/Qatar. Trump Extorts Money from Law Firms. Opinion piece: Does Trump Encourage Terrorism by Public Threat? Here's another headline: Cowardly, Template-driven Gray Lady Spreads Legs
  12. Plus why is he going to care what happens here when dear leader deports him
  13. I was thinking this yesterday after we heard that the body of our friends’ daughter was found. The Fourth of July will forever be a day of sadness for them. Silly, I guess, but it’s what I was thinking.
  14. MvdP with the stage win with Tadej half a bike length behind. Jonas right behind him.
  15. If "normal" is defined by the abnormal period since 2021 with jack squat for rain (except a good flood Aug '24) then I'd say it would take between 1-2 yrs. We're at about 230,000 acre ft right now and 1 yr ago today we were at 212,000. The red dot I put on today's graph is a pretty good visual of the answer to your question. Coincidently that dot also represent the exact time that I bought my house here. This is why I don't do Vegas --->
  16. On vacation in NM, and last night was the first time I saw actual photos of these babies. I have two young girls and this entire thing has completely ripped me open. I’m glad they were asleep already when I reopened the thread to the memorials to the known victims at Mystic, bc I cried like a baby in my wife’s arms for a good while The pain and suffering wrought from this event will go on for a very very long time. And July 4th has now become a fucking nightmare for so so so many folks, not to mention the extreme ptsd that the survivors will deal with for life. My kids have gotten lots and lots of hugs and cuddles the last few days.
  17. Wait 'til more people figure out all the work their children have been putting into school so they can go to med school is for naught because there's no longer any gov't. student loans available. I'm not sure if that'd go into news or CR though so...
  18. The fact that we don't run these shit goblins out of town at the end of our pitchforks goes to show how rotten our "Texas" culture is.
  19. If conditions go back to “normal” how long does it take to go back to that 46%? 3 years?
  20. Why do we have all these search and rescue people acting and doing things when they should be on their knees praying? Why isn’t the God of Abraham doing something? Is it because we gave civil rights to the gays?
  21. Got home late last night. Waking up this morning getting ready for church. For the first time something dawned on me that I don’t normally think about my iPhone when it hits 10pm and my old ass is going to bed. It goes into do not disturb mode. It shuts off at 0600 with my alarm. I know many like this as well for all the folks mentioning alerts at 1-3am. How many of yall would have gotten that alert? I haven’t heard my ringtone in 23 years it’s forever silent buzz now at a camp im sure like basic or deployments there would or should have been an on call or overnight “door guard” or someone on standby to monitor alerts. Or maybe not. I dunno but wondering how effective a cell phone alert in the middle of everyone sleeping would have worked edit. Just saw cell phone and iPads are banned at camp which is awesome for kids but surely adults had them. Just thoughts on my walk to church
  22. About to leave SA and head up for the game with one of my brothers and @midtown. We got some nosebleeds.
  23. He selected a field that said "Black or African American" because he was born in and grew up in Africa. He also selected "Asian" because his parents are Indian. What is the scandal here? Are we going to chastise every white Moroccan and Egyptian who checked the same box? White Afrikaaners? The box did not say "Black AND African American" did it? So this is not even a nothingburger. It's not even a concept of a nothingburger. It's transparent favoritism from a right wing rag masquerading as liberal media.
  24. When you get to your destination, just exit the vehicle and get going. Leave her ass behind.
  25. I can see the difference. Yes. But as another poster said, it takes monumental events to change minds, and sanitizing even the worst of political rants, which are tangentially tied to the deaths of children, is an opportunity to wake people the fuck up. But instead we make it emotionally easy for people to not have to be accountable for their own decisions, to say “thoughts and prayers” and go back to just looking at tweets of rising water. I understand the difference. I understand why you do it. Im arguing it’s a disservice.
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