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1 hour ago, Thatguy said:

Opponents are blitzing the a gaps and trying not to go past QB depth on the edge to keep Arch in the pocket. So all the cute shit is coming up the middle. 

UK did exactly what I thought OU would do to us. Pummel the A gaps. Lucky for us, Venables tried to get cute with different blitz packages.

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34 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

UK did exactly what I thought OU would do to us. Pummel the A gaps. Lucky for us, Venables tried to get cute with different blitz packages.

Venables fronts are undisciplined. You can bet that everybody we play will be playing contain on the edge and bringing pressure up the middle to prevent Arch from escaping. I dont forsee those LG and C PFF grades changing anytime soon. 

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Cross-posting...    Scipio Tex analysis

OFFENSIVE LINE 

Center and left guard continue to be a massive problem, no matter who starts there. Brooks gave up three sacks and six pressures. Robertson gave up 5 hurries and 5 pressures. Neither run-blocked well. Flood has failed at teaching protections and apparently no one in the building will tell Sark that pull protections are a fail when a defense smells blood.

Below we impressively combine bad pull protection with weak slide protection. This is supposed to be a gotcha play down the sideline to Endries on the fake screen. The pull “deception” in the pass protection proves useless to the play’s success. It just guarantees an immediate sack. 

Amusingly, if we’d actually run this as a screen with Endries leading, it would have gotten 8-10 yards. But we never went back to it, because Sark grab bag. We are just throwing stuff at the wall. “Let’s try a shot play from…a look! Also, is there any way that we can combine the two protections that no one on our team can execute?”

Goosby was average to below average. Baker had a tough penalty and got bullied some in the gap run game. Both tackles did well in outside zone last weekend. So…don’t do it? Take a bow DJ Campbell. You are the only OL who played passable football.

 

 

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I want to interrupt this review of the Texas O-Line shitshow with an example of aggressive, impressive play by Vanderbilt's LG, Cade McConnell. Now, this is how it's done.

 

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14 hours ago, William Bludworth said:

Damn. Goosby, wtf are you doing? It's Kentucky, not Georgia. 

I don't know what happened to Goosby this offseason. He was so damn good last year against some tough opponents. He's doing OK this year but nothing like what we saw.

He and Arch have been the biggest headscratchers this year because we saw what they could do and it's just not happening this year so far. The other 3 OL (besides DJ) were always question marks coming into the season, we just didn't expect this level of shittiness.

Neto also a major headscratcher. Idk what he could've possibly done to go from 1st team all offseason to still not seeing snaps behind this LG shitshow.

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22 hours ago, Tex-19 said:

I don't know what happened to Goosby this offseason. He was so damn good last year against some tough opponents. He's doing OK this year but nothing like what we saw.

He and Arch have been the biggest headscratchers this year because we saw what they could do and it's just not happening this year so far. The other 3 OL (besides DJ) were always question marks coming into the season, we just didn't expect this level of shittiness.

Neto also a major headscratcher. Idk what he could've possibly done to go from 1st team all offseason to still not seeing snaps behind this LG shitshow.

Agree about Goosby. It's a complete unknown. As for Neto, just take a look at who they started ahead of him in Stroh. Either Flood is blind or cognitively delayed. It took 4 games and the second half to finally remove him. I refuse to believe Brooks is better than Neto at G. A position Brooks has never played over a guy who has been playing that position at Texas for 3-4 years? Either he's just that bad, which would again reflect on Flood's inability to spot talent, or...I just think Flood is that bad at his job. If nothing else,  just try Kibble. He's a natural G. A RG, but he at least has been moved around in practice, so he should know both sides. Atascocita is an o-line factory, and I can't imagine even Flood screwing that up. 

I lied. Yes I can. He HAS to go. Sark, if he likes money, will have to fire him. And what I mean by "has", I mean CDC will "recommend" it. If Sark is let go/leaves from his third school, he'll be most likely radioactive until he's collecting SSI. I don't care how stubborn someone is, if he's gone by being shown the door, he's an analyst and now a lifetime OC at a bottom tier P4, or a HC at a school like UAB or New Mexico. His "learning" phase won't work anymore because he's already 51, and he ain't Bobby Petrino or Steve Spurrier offensively. His path to being a HC, even at a bottom tier would be the HC at Liberty, and if by pure luck, possibly Bowling Green, Toledo, or SHSU. Even UTEP has some dignity. 

We also don't seem to have a Center, either. We do, he's just a RS-FR, so we have to use Hutson, who, as you don't even have to look at why because of who coaches him, is terrible, Robertson looked terrible, but he hasn't ever seen "real" game action to my knowledge, so I don't know and can't take much away from a first live action game, even if it is against a poor and hapless Kentucky defense that's worse than most 4A Texas High Schools. At the very base level, they have adults who are at least 21 and older. 

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Has there been any more insight on Chatman? People have alluded to an injury and I can't remember seeing him play this year. Seems like he could be a solution at LG if healthy.

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4 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Has there been any more insight on Chatman? People have alluded to an injury and I can't remember seeing him play this year. Seems like he could be a solution at LG if healthy.

He came in at RT against OU for a few plays when Goosby went out and they moved Baker over.

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5 hours ago, William Bludworth said:

Agree about Goosby. It's a complete unknown. As for Neto, just take a look at who they started ahead of him in Stroh. Either Flood is blind or cognitively delayed. It took 4 games and the second half to finally remove him. I refuse to believe Brooks is better than Neto at G. A position Brooks has never played over a guy who has been playing that position at Texas for 3-4 years? Either he's just that bad, which would again reflect on Flood's inability to spot talent, or...I just think Flood is that bad at his job. If nothing else,  just try Kibble. He's a natural G. A right G, but he at least has been moved around in practice, so he should know both sides. Atascocita is an o-line factory, and I can't imagine even Flood screwing that up. 

I lied. Yes I can. He has to go. Sark, if he likes getting paid, will have to fire him. If Sark is let go/gone from his fourth school, he'll be radioactive. 

We also don't seem to have a Center, either. Hutson is terrible, Robertson looked terrible, so I guess we have to assume Cruz will be terrible, as well. 

that's the issue l, due to our stupid administration sark gets paid ether way. we guaranteed him generational level money even if never wins another game.

we basically saw what A&M went though with jimbo and thought it was a good idea to do the same 

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8 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

These guys are absolutely fucking pathetic and should be ashamed that they are this fucking awful.

Blame Flood and Sarkisian. They're the ones who offered, they accepted, and they have no o-line coach to teach them. 

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9 hours ago, Tex-19 said:

I don't know what happened to Goosby this offseason. He was so damn good last year against some tough opponents. He's doing OK this year but nothing like what we saw.

He and Arch have been the biggest headscratchers this year because we saw what they could do and it's just not happening this year so far. The other 3 OL (besides DJ) were always question marks coming into the season, we just didn't expect this level of shittiness.

Neto also a major headscratcher. Idk what he could've possibly done to go from 1st team all offseason to still not seeing snaps behind this LG shitshow.

Goosby's struggles are directly related to guard and to a lesser extent center play. He has having to be hyper aware when the LG fucks up, which is causing hesitancy. 

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Imagine if our coaches had eyes and could see that Stroh sucks, sucked when he got an offer, and continues to suck, should never have been offered, and we got Brooks more acclimated to the position, or fuck, even Neto. Neto is portaling after the season, anyway, so we will have between 11-13 OL, which is mind boggling. Its not that we're having to move tackles to guard, it's that we have no guards worth a shit outside of Kibble, who plays the same side as Campbell, so we're using all of our tackles. Everyone else is dog shit. I'm not counting those about to depart other than Hutson. 

Goosby (T) Brooks (T) Hutson/Robertson (G playing C) Campbell (true RG) Baker (T)

Bench: Chatman (T injured), J. Christian (3* G probably sucks; Flood special), Cojoe (3* G), D. Coleman (3* G Flood special), J. Coleman (3* G Flood special), Cruz (3* C), Hutson (3* G Flood special playing C); Kibble (FR RG), Stroh (3* G Flood special; Asswater), Neto (4* LG). 

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Damn.. Paul Wadlington is undressing the fuck out of some of blocking schemes we did vs UK.  Don't know who is teaching them but it's straight fucking asswater.

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25 minutes ago, westexhorn said:

Damn.. Paul Wadlington is undressing the fuck out of some of blocking schemes we did vs UK.  Don't know who is teaching them but it's straight fucking asswater.

 

Scipio Tex + Ian Boyd 😬

 

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28 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

What are those numbers for run blocking?  My sense of it is that we've never been that good run blocking.

2025 - 62.9 (6th in SEC, Iowa #1 at 81.6)

2024 - 68.0 (5th in SEC, Army #1 at 90.9 lol)

 

 

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42 minutes ago, Dark Horse said:

2025 - 62.9 (6th in SEC, Iowa #1 at 81.6)

2024 - 68.0 (5th in SEC, Army #1 at 90.9 lol)

 

 

Well, that does ratify my thinking that our line last year wasn't championship quality.  Bet it wasn't so hot in 23 either.

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Damn.. Paul Wadlington is undressing the fuck out of some of blocking schemes we did vs UK.  Don't know who is teaching them but it's straight fucking asswater.
Yeah it is clear that they have way too much going on in their heads on any given play.  Another sign pointing to Sark thinking he can run things like an NFL team when he is working with 19 year olds.  Slide protections, pull protections, half run half pass protections.  Its all too much.  Just run BOB and some half-slide until we can prove we can execute those.  
 
 
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Anybody here know shit about O-line coaches? Unless we rally and win out someone will have to take the fall, and Flood is the one, as others have said.

I honestly can't remember having a great (even good) OL coach. Seems like we could poach the best under present circumstances, but it never seems to happen, so I'm not holding my breath.

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7 minutes ago, OnAComputer said:

I ranted about this if any of yall are interested. 

 

The answer is simple as to why the offense is bad. It is YES. The question does not really matter, because its basically a failure across the board. Fans dont want to admit that, because that has no simple answer

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2 hours ago, mwaadeeb said:

Anybody here know shit about O-line coaches? Unless we rally and win out someone will have to take the fall, and Flood is the one, as others have said.

I honestly can't remember having a great (even good) OL coach. Seems like we could poach the best under present circumstances, but it never seems to happen, so I'm not holding my breath.

Whoever we got would have to assuage Sark's ego daily and pretend his double-reverse pass call on 3rd and 3 is brilliant. It's hard to find high-achieving "yes" men.

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22 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Teh Tony Hills rant...

Echoes my major point to a certain class of clients: "It's already broken, it already doesn't work - how much worse do you think it can be?"

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Poor player evaluation is the biggest problem at o-line per Dan.  He still believes Flood can coach...

Former Texas All-American Dan Neil talks Longhorns O-Line, Offense, Can they improve 

 

Dan Neil kept calling him "Curt Flood" instead of Kyle  😋

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Bunch a 3 stars trying to run NFL caliber schemes? Maybe flood can coach if he has 80 hours a week to do it and NFL caliber players on a you know NFL team. 

this isn’t the NFL. It’s experience limited, time limited NCAA college football - which is another way of saying the developmental league. Stop acting like it’s something different. 

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Yeah it is clear that they have way too much going on in their heads on any given play.  Another sign pointing to Sark thinking he can run things like an NFL team when he is working with 19 year olds.  Slide protections, pull protections, half run half pass protections.  Its all too much.  Just run BOB and some half-slide until we can prove we can execute those.  
 
 

Seeing the talented Eagles get pantsed early this season gives me hope. The new coordinator is fucking things up and one the best running games in NFL history is neutered by bad coaching. Think a Greg Robinson like change will have to happen to the whole offense.
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1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

Poor player evaluation is the biggest problem at o-line per Dan.  He still believes Flood can coach...

Former Texas All-American Dan Neil talks Longhorns O-Line, Offense, Can they improve 

 

Dan Neil kept calling him "Curt Flood" instead of Kyle  😋

That was a depressing listen. Summarizing

Dan; "OL is the biggest issue on offense"

"Can it get fixed?"

Dan: "No"

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1 hour ago, scramblyn said:

Bunch a 3 stars trying to run NFL caliber schemes? Maybe flood can coach if he has 80 hours a week to do it and NFL caliber players on a you know NFL team. 

this isn’t the NFL. It’s experience limited, time limited NCAA college football - which is another way of saying the developmental league. Stop acting like it’s something different. 

A problem with blaming Flood is that he's not calling the blocking schemes. Recruiting, talent evaluation, and development are all on Flood. But when Sark calls for a blocking scheme that we cannot execute, when there are apparently blocking schemes that we can execute, that's on Sark. I'm not sure what the dynamic is between them, but we are all over the map with our blocking schemes this year and we do not have the OL for that kind of game. We need to stick to the few things that we do well enough. 

Sure, let's figure where Flood is fucking up in the offseason. Maybe even consider making a change. But when you go from our blocking against OU to our blocking against UK, you know that a big part of the problem is scheme. 

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19 hours ago, Codaxx said:

Teh Tony Hills rant should be here. Starts around the 29 minute mark. 

Hills makes some good points.  Gotta call what the O-line executes the best -- playcalls that allow them to use their physical size to get a hat on a hat.  This O-line currently can't run a bunch of finesse bullshit.  

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1 hour ago, scramblyn said:

Bunch a 3 stars trying to run NFL caliber schemes? Maybe flood can coach if he has 80 hours a week to do it and NFL caliber players on a you know NFL team. 

this isn’t the NFL. It’s experience limited, time limited NCAA college football - which is another way of saying the developmental league. Stop acting like it’s something different. 

It's much worse.

Baker was a 5 star that got downgraded to a 4 star at the last second.  He's supposed to be a stud.

Brooks was highly rated but obviously is not ready.

Campbell is a 5 star who appears to be the only one playing well.

Goosby was a 3 star but he looked much better last year than this year.

Hutson and Robertson are both borderline low 4 star players if ratings are to be believed.  

To be honest, this is a bigger indictment on Sarkisian.  He can see that his guys cannot do what he is asking them to and he refuses to change the gameplan.

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21 hours ago, The Dog said:

https://xcancel.com/WillBaizer/status/1980730342492258616#m

Here's the thread for those who don't have TwitterX accounts.

 

Good stuff @OnAComputer

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Everyone's blaming Arch or the OL. They're not wrong, but it's deeper. Texas is dealing with a perfect storm breaking the offense from inside out: 1) Inexperience limiting how the offense runs 2) Mental overload destroying technique 3) Dictating Sark's game plan Thread 🧵

Oct 21, 2025 · 8:18 PM UTC

 
Problem #1: The OL is drowning because they're calling their own protections. When Sark used to say he could run more of the offense with Quinn at the helm, it was because in an offense led by a veteran QB, you usually have the QB going through and helping manage the protections, ID the mike, and call our blitzes and stunts. Sark puts a lot on a QB's plate. Arch is not being given that responsibility when he is only 9 games into his career. So the entire burden falls on the offensive line. And right now? You've got ONE veteran on that line plus a rotating cast of centers trying to be the communication hub. Compare this to last year where you had a line of veterans and the best LT in program history. They're diagnosing what's in front of them, communicating protections, AND trying to execute all at once. The result is two-fold: 1) Communication is failing, leading to things like a free rusher when Kentucky only sent 2. 2) Defenses are loading up exotic blitzes because the young guards and center aren't picking them up pre-snap. 3) They're playing entirely in their heads, and technique is falling apart (playing too wide, over their toes, losing their base)
 
Problem #2: The mental overload is destroying fundamentals. Maybe they were never there, but this OL looked very good in pass pro vs Ohio State when they were not doing anything exotic. Now you're seeing guards and centers miss assignments on basic stunts or just getting beat 1v1. When you're swimming in your own head trying to figure out protections, your base gets sloppy, you're playing over your toes, getting ripped on twists. This is where Kyle Flood needs to step up and coach through it. It's one thing to be young; it's another to compound inexperience with mental clutter that makes you forget how to play football.
 
So just simplify the offense, right? That sounds good until you realize the defense is still winning even on the simplest plays. Texas runs 1-step drops for quick passes that shouldn't give defenses time, but they're STILL getting to Arch and/or DBs are reading the drop easily and jumping routes. On 3-step drops, it's worse. Defenses use simple stunts to collapse the pocket before plays develop. They can sit in zone and read Arch, or send an extra blitzer and rush him. Either way, they are getting home.
 
When Arch does get a clean pocket, he's overthinking. He's best off-schedule. Grip it and rip it. But in structure, he's taking too long, getting happy feet, patting the ball, and bad base, leading to poor throws. He's flashed elite potential like Quinn did. It took Quinn almost 2 years to be a great QB. But right now, as @CJVogel_OTF said, Arch expects Georgia-level pressure every snap. Without it, he doesn't play under control. With it, he's already rushed into poor mechanics.
 
How do you work with this? You could explore quick two-read plays, moving the pocket to let instinct take over, or moving to checkdowns quicker. However, if defenses sit deep/intermediate or send blitzes that get home, and your QB can't complete quick stuff like mesh routes while your OL can't communicate, you play a different game. Survival football. Field position. Screens. Chunk plays. Ex: he out-Kentucky'd Kentucky. Grind it out, hunt explosive plays, score when opportunities come. Lean on defense. It's not pretty, but it's survival mode until the OL gels/Arch processes faster. Limited offense = limited playcalling options. You work with what you have.
 
Bottom line: This isn't getting fixed overnight. I know asking Texas fans for patience is a lot, but you can't simplify when your QB and OL are both learning to read defenses in real-time. Want the full breakdown? Read above. It's fixable. Question is, how long will it take?

 

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32 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

It's much worse.

Baker was a 5 star that got downgraded to a 4 star at the last second.  He's supposed to be a stud.

Brooks was highly rated but obviously is not ready.

Campbell is a 5 star who appears to be the only one playing well.

Goosby was a 3 star but he looked much better last year than this year.

Hutson and Robertson are both borderline low 4 star players if ratings are to be believed.  

To be honest, this is a bigger indictment on Sarkisian.  He can see that his guys cannot do what he is asking them to and he refuses to change the gameplan.

It's just unfathomable we are relying on a known project true freshman as starting LG.  Not because of devastating injuries to multiple players in the 2 deep at the position but because apparently that's the best we have on the roster.  It's the single biggest failure in personnel evaluation that I can recall in years and certainly in the NIL/portal era.  It is 100% a fireable offense for whomever made the determination that we are fine with what he had a C/G in the offseason.  I would be willing to bet our offense is 7-10 PPG better with simply average to slightly above average play at C/G, and if we had a plus starter at LG, we could probably live with the center play we have.  But the combination essentially made this season a failure from day 1.

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It's just unfathomable we are relying on a known project true freshman as starting LG.  Not because of devastating injuries to multiple players in the 2 deep at the position but because apparently that's the best we have on the roster.  It's the single biggest failure in personnel evaluation that I can recall in years and certainly in the NIL/portal era.  It is 100% a fireable offense for whomever made the determination that we are fine with what he had a C/G in the offseason.  I would be willing to bet our offense is 7-10 PPG better with simply average to slightly above average play at C/G, and if we had a plus starter at LG, we could probably live with the center play we have.  But the combination essentially made this season a failure from day 1.

In fact, they were so fine with what we had on the interior that Neto was set to start at LG for about eight months. Right up until it was time to board the plane to Columbus. Then it was decided that the worst OL we have seen at Texas would be a better option. Nothing about our decision making process at that spot makes sense.

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