Sarah Huckabee Sanders is terrible at this job

[jimmyjazz 45428]

It is not lost on me that these people, who have willfully entered into the national political arena, are getting fussy about blowback from private citizens.  Jesus Christ.  LBJ would have laughed and then mocked them.  Reagan would have cracked some homey witticism.  Trump just cries like the little bitch he is.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23355]

 

[Js1 84995]

X, X, X

[Js1 84995]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It is not lost on me that these people, who have willfully entered into the national political arena, are getting fussy about blowback from private citizens. 

These are the same people who LOUDLY and PROUDLY will tell you that private businesses should be able to refuse to serve private citizens and the free market will decide if that private decision is then worthy of staying in business.

Here, we have a private business telling someone in her capacity as a private citizen (not as part of her official capacity as Press Secretary) being refused service and the outcome is both SHS and Trump, from their GOVERNMENT TWITTER ACCOUNTS, admonishing the private business.

I hope they all rot in hypocritical hell.

[Hank Kingsley 20592]

Worth reading. 

 

An excerpt: 

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One thing that people who wield great power often fail to viscerally understand is what it feels like to have power wielded against you. This imbalance is the source of many of the most monstrous decisions that get made by powerful people and institutions. The people who start the wars do not have bombs dropped on their houses. The people who pass the laws that incarcerate others never have to face the full force of the prison system themselves. The people who design the economic system that inflicts poverty on millions are themselves rich. This sort of insulation from the real world consequences of political and economic decisions makes it very easy for powerful people to approve of things happening to the rest of us that they would never, ever tolerate themselves. No health insurance CEO would watch his child die due to their inability to afford quality health care. No chickenhawk Congressman will be commanding a tank battle in Iran. No opportunistic race-baiting politician will be shunned because of their skin color. Zealots condemn gay people—except for their own gay children. The weed-smoking of young immigrants should get them deported—but our own weed-smoking was a youthful indiscretion. Environmentalist celebrities fly on carbon-spouting private jets. Banks make ostentatious charity donations while raking in billions from investments in defense contractors and gun manufacturers and oil companies. This is human nature. It is very, very easy to do things that hurt others as long as those same things benefit, rather than hurt, you. Self-justification is a specialty of mankind.

 

[David Dennison 18487]

9 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Worth reading. 

 

An excerpt: 

 

That is outstanding. These people need to realize that violence is always an option.

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It won't be long before a Trumpkin and non-Trumpkin get in an altercation and shoot each other.  #MAGA

[Brisketexan 104226]

It won't be long before a Trumpkin and non-Trumpkin get in an altercation and shoot each other.  #MAGA

Trumpkins have already shot brown people. And already run a car through a crowd. The violence is already underway.

What terrifies the Trumpkins is the previously inconceivable idea that their victims might fight BACK.

[Horn Dog 9584]

31 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

MILFs??

WTF gif

 

[retread 2951]

It's a powder keg and DOTUS spends his days flicking lit matches at the barrel.

[Chad Fuck 17455]

5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Trumpkins have already shot brown people. And already run a car through a crowd. The violence is already underway.

What terrifies the Trumpkins is the previously inconceivable idea that their victims might fight BACK.

 

[Art Vandelay 1710]

6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Trumpkins have already shot brown people. And already run a car through a crowd. The violence is already underway.

What terrifies the Trumpkins is the previously inconceivable idea that their victims might fight BACK.

MIGHT fight back? It was one year ago this month that a leftwing activist attempted to gun down several Republican congressmen at a soft ball practice, nearly killing Steve Scalise. And he didn't even need tacit approval from a sitting U.S. Congresswoman. Goes both ways. I don't condone any of it, from either side.

[Brisketexan 104226]

MIGHT fight back? It was one year ago this month that a leftwing activist attempted to gun down several Republican congressmen at a soft ball practice, nearly killing Steve Scalise. And he didn't even need tacit approval from a sitting U.S. Congresswoman. Goes both ways. I don't condone any of it, from either side.

As to the violence, agreed. Which is why you don’t flick matches at the powder keg 100 times a day, as DOTUS has. You don’t get to spew inflammatory rhetoric without pause, and then express concern that there are flames.

[Art Vandelay 1710]

Just now, Brisketexan said:

As to the violence, agreed. Which is why you don’t flick matches at the powder keg 100 times a day, as DOTUS has. You don’t get to spew inflammatory rhetoric without pause, and then express concern that there are flames.

Agreed. Like I said, I don't condone any of it, not Trump's inflammatory rhetoric, and not Waters' encouraging harassment. If nothing else, Dems should realize that Waters' comments only embolden Trump supporters.

[Guest]

39 minutes ago, Js1 said:

These are the same people who LOUDLY and PROUDLY will tell you that private businesses should be able to refuse to serve private citizens and the free market will decide if that private decision is then worthy of staying in business.

Here, we have a private business telling someone in her capacity as a private citizen (not as part of her official capacity as Press Secretary) being refused service and the outcome is both SHS and Trump, from their GOVERNMENT TWITTER ACCOUNTS, admonishing the private business.

I hope they all rot in hypocritical hell.

She can admonish all she wants, and so can anyone else. What the restaurant did was fine. The backlash against it is fair game. And the inevitable boon to their business is also fair game. I really do not get all the drama around this. 

[Js1 84995]

The drama is that SHS and Trump got their fee-fees hurt.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

The drama is that SHS and Trump got their fee-fees hurt.

They have the right to bitch. I would if I were them. 

[Hank Scorpio 17704]

13 minutes ago, Art Vandelay said:

MIGHT fight back? It was one year ago this month that a leftwing activist attempted to gun down several Republican congressmen at a soft ball practice, nearly killing Steve Scalise. And he didn't even need tacit approval from a sitting U.S. Congresswoman. Goes both ways. I don't condone any of it, from either side.

That's the good shit. Both sides. Fuck yes. 

[Scholz 11905]

Huckabeef should be thanking that restaurant.  For God's sake that fat grundle could skip a meal.  Or mix in a salad once in a while.

[Hank Kingsley 20592]

 

[Hank Kingsley 20592]

Another establishment elite that doesn't want the DC bubble to be threatened. Get fucked, Pelosi. 

 

[Js1 84995]

10 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

 

But, but, civility!!!!

[David Dennison 18487]

16 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

They have the right to bitch. I would if I were them. 

And the people have the right to shame them.

[jimmyjazz 45428]

24 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

They have the right to bitch. 

Well, not using government Twitter accounts, they shouldn't.

[RDCanecutter 26198]

14 hours ago, tantric superman said:

When I was in undergrad, we had a roommate who set his alarm for super early, hit snooze a billion fucking times, and then leave with the fucking alarm still on.  One day the 3rd roommate told him that if he didn't stop doing this shit he was going to throw the alarm clock out the fucking window.

 

I had two roommates over the years who did that.

The first one, we had "shoe duty". When it was our "shoe duty" day, we'd get up about the 4th time he hit snooze, and bean him with a thrown shoe.

Second one, I'd mellowed out. plus he slept with his door locked. After he'd run his alarm all damn morning, I'd just go to the breaker box and shut off power to his room. Dude would then sleep late and miss shit.  Oh well.

Y'all's problem was y'all were all talk and no action. Be like Conan the Barbarian, don't talk about throwing out the alarm clock, just throw it out.

[sidis 9686]

2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

If what I've read is correct, didn't the whole thing go down without much drama?  Owner asked SHS to leave, SHS said "OK", owner comped whatever had already been served.  Right?

If so, I love that it's getting blown way farther out of proportion by a bunch of people who had nothing to do with it.  Yay, drama.  Restaurants kick people out for not wearing shoes . . . often.  Nobody cares.  Seems like nobody really cares here unless it's a useful talking point. 

it is getting blown out of proportion and trump's reflexive reaction to it as a red meat he can grill up and serve to the base is predictable.

however, as much as i can't stand even the sight or sounds coming from sarah sanders, the gay wedding cake/baker script is simply being flipped here and the reactions are essentially retrenching the opposite positions.  not a good look all around in my opinion for anyone except for...shockingly, sarah sanders which is crazy.  discriminating on the basis of party affiliation or employment is not a becoming slope for any of us to tie ourselves to...even if she is a disingenuous person who is actively working to undermine the united states of america.

Edited June 25, 2018 by sidis

[longhrnfan 61]

39 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

She can admonish all she wants, and so can anyone else. What the restaurant did was fine. The backlash against it is fair game. And the inevitable boon to their business is also fair game. I really do not get all the drama around this. 

I don't either. They can refuse service. She can complain. 

When I read the law that she allegedly broke by using her official handle, I don't see a violation insofar as she didn't use it for gain. 

[Hank Kingsley 20592]

4 minutes ago, sidis said:

it is getting blown out of proportion and trump's reflexive reaction to it as a red meat he can grill up and serve to the base is predictable.

however, as much as i can't stand even the sight or sounds coming from sarah sanders, the gay wedding cake/baker script is simply being flipped here and the reactions are essentially retrenching the opposite positions.  not a good look all around in my opinion for anyone except for...shockingly, sarah sanders which is crazy.  discriminating on the basis of party affiliation or employment is not a becoming slope for any of us to tie ourselves to...even if she is a disingenuous person who is actively working to undermine the united states of america.

Think harder. And smarter. 

 

 

[longhrnfan 61]

I think the far bigger story here is Maxine Waters. She should really come out and offer some clarity on her remarks. 

[tantric superman 4667]

17 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Y'all's problem was y'all were all talk and no action. Be like Conan the Barbarian, don't talk about throwing out the alarm clock, just throw it out. 

We didn't want to be dead.

[RDCanecutter 26198]

2 minutes ago, tantric superman said:

We didn't want to be dead.

Ah. Civilized life had degenerated your desire to avenge yourselves on your tormentor. Thus it has always been. HA!

[Hank Kingsley 20592]

Welp. Add another clueless Washington insider Democrat to the list.  These people just. don't. get. it. 

Michelle Obama's "rule" has resulted in Donald Trump as POTUS.

Texas-Ex or not, fuck you, Paul. 

 

 

[SaucyJack 3475]

2 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

No dude they ruined everyone's night and spit on her while she was trying her best to leave peacefully. And they keyed her car. And ass.

 I think what you’re getting at, is, she’s ass, my dude. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23355]

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

discriminating on the basis of party affiliation or employment is not a becoming slope for any of us to tie ourselves to

You missed the point.

First, she wasn’t discriminated against, so let’s drop that word now.

Second, she wasn’t denied service because she’s a republican.

Third, she wasn’t denied service because she works for Trump.

Let’s let the owner of The Red Hen tell us why she was denied service

“I explained that the restaurant has certain standards that I feel it has to uphold, such as honesty, and compassion, and cooperation.

I’m totally okay with that.

[jimmyjazz 45428]

I think a lot of Americans need to learn more about public accommodations, protected classes, and discrimination.  The homophobic baker has confused the issue for many, because (until perhaps recently) we were seemingly moving towards the idea of sexuality being a protected class, and indeed it is in many states, at least in the context of employment law.  But, it's not universal.

SHS was not asked to leave the restaurant on the basis of her race, her gender, her anything . . .  save the fact that the owner finds her a despicable human being and felt it was bad for business to serve her.  Until political party or job description become protected classes, it should remain a sound policy that is totally up to the discretion of the business owner to enforce.

[Pancho 44183]

SHSU on her way out? 

 

[Hank Kingsley 20592]

Spoiler alert:  WHPC will coddle Sanders and let her completely off the hook

[sidis 9686]

somehow, what you guys read into what i wrote implied that i am saying something illegal was done or that the ussc needs to weigh in on the case.  that isn't what i said so put that silly shit to bed.

however, effectively (and separate from issues of legality), it is the same thing...a personal, subjective judgment from a public business owner refusing to serve someone because they don't like them.  saying that they refused them because they have "certain standards" regarding non-empirical terms like "honesty, compassion, and cooperation" and that having nothing to do with her job is just as disingenuous as sarah sanders's dumbass lying from the podium each day.  reductio ad absurdum, does the restaurant query each patron on those standards??  don't be silly.

if a restaurant refused to serve josh earnest in 2010 claiming it was because he wasn't "honest, compassionate, or cooperative," we would all roll our eyes at how utterly retarded it was...

SHSU on her way out? 

it is known, end of the year.

[lemonlime 5503]

A public business owner has every right to refuse to serve someone who takes our tax dollars to lie to us every day, including lying about kiddie concentration camps.

But this is a distraction of right wing fake outrage to distract from over 3000 kids separated from their parents and no plan to reunite them.

[Thermos H. Christ 478]

I don't condone violence against Trump collaborators. In addition to just being wrong, violence would be counterproductive. This is right out of the Ghandi/MLK playbook. The blueprint for (a) winning hearts and minds and (b) effectively compelling social change is not violence but simply refusing to participate in or go along with something that one believes is wrong, and emboldening others to join in taking that stand. If someone is acting as a force against what is right, you don't buy from them, you don't sell to them, you don't work for them, you don't fuck them, and you stand in their way loud and proud at every opportunity. It's a lot harder than it sounds, but in the big picture it can be extremely effective.

So yeah, I absolutely condone shunning, shaming, boycotting, and all-around excommunicating Trump collaborators from the society of decent human beings. They should not be able to get a meal at a nice restaurant or a drink at a nice bar in any major city in America. They should not be able to shop, or go to the movies, or walk down the street in peace without being told very clearly WE SEE YOU, AND YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE. They should dread at all times showing their faces in public. They have more than earned it. The idea that they can expect to do everything they do with impunity and everyone's just going to sit there politely waiting for them to tell us when it's OK to respectfully request that they stop... THAT is insanity.

It's also insane to think that they face so few consequences for their actions through official channels that not getting to eat at a farm-to-table restaurant is being portrayed as some whole new level of bridge-too-far leftist insanity. It's nothing, and yet it seems to be the closest we've come to actually hitting them where it hurts. It's working, this is really getting to them. It must not stop, it must grow, it must become their day-to-day and hour-to-hour reality.

[Chad Fuck 17455]

15 minutes ago, Pancho Negro said:

SHSU on her way out? 

 

He didn't walk out during Obama's set, did he?

Nevermind, double standards are standard operating procedure in this admin.

[Js1 84995]

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I absolutely condone shunning, shaming, boycotting, and all-around excommunicating Trump collaborators 

+1 on the non-violence against them. Shame them, shun them, call them out. No violence. They are such sensitive snowflakes, shit like that bothers them way more.

[Mojo Hand 4580]

That Nielsen had the gall to eat out at a Mexican restaurant right after her press conference tells you all you need to know about how out of touch the Trump team is. 

[Hank Kingsley 20592]

12 minutes ago, sidis said:

however, effectively (and separate from issues of legality), it is the same thing...a personal, subjective judgment from a public business owner refusing to serve someone because they don't like them. 

Wrong. The Red Hen owner SPECIFICALLY refused Sarah Huckabee Sanders, and the protesters SPECIFICALLY called out Nielsen,  two public figures that have made their hateful rhetoric known to the world.  The baker wants to refuse an entire subset of people exclusively based on their sexual preference, even if there requested purchase is a symbol of love and companionship.

 

 

 

Edited June 25, 2018 by Hank Kingsley

[Thermos H. Christ 478]

Remember when a comedian specifically brought in to roast members of the Trump administration told a joke referencing the fact that Sarah Huckabee Sanders (a) lies frequently and (b) wears makeup, and people acted like that was going way, way, incredibly too far? What the fuck was that?

[lemonlime 5503]

2 minutes ago, Thermos H. Christ said:

Remember when a comedian specifically brought in to roast members of the Trump administration told a joke referencing the fact that Sarah Huckabee Sanders (a) lies frequently and (b) wears makeup, and people acted like that was going way, way, incredibly too far? What the fuck was that?

Red meat for the Trumpkins.  And a distraction from trade wars, kiddie concentration camps, Scott Pruitt scandals, a tax bill which is bankrupting our country but gives the average person the equivalent of a Costco membership, increased health insurance costs, destruction of environmental protections, Stormy Daniels, Russia, insecure voter systems, extreme gerrymandering, and much, much more.

[David Dennison 18487]

2 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

Red meat for the Trumpkins.  And a distraction from trade wars, kiddie concentration camps, Scott Pruitt scandals, a tax bill which is bankrupting our country but gives the average person the equivalent of a Costco membership, increased health insurance costs, destruction of environmental protections, Stormy Daniels, Russia, insecure voter systems, extreme gerrymandering, and much, much more.

It's not distracting anyone. This November is an election for or against Donald Trump.

He's going to lose bigly.

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, sidis said:

somehow, what you guys read into what i wrote implied that i am saying something illegal was done or that the ussc needs to weigh in on the case.  that isn't what i said so put that silly shit to bed.

however, effectively (and separate from issues of legality), it is the same thing...a personal, subjective judgment from a public business owner refusing to serve someone because they don't like them.  saying that they refused them because they have "certain standards" regarding non-empirical terms like "honesty, compassion, and cooperation" and that having nothing to do with her job is just as disingenuous as sarah sanders's dumbass lying from the podium each day.  reductio ad absurdum, does the restaurant query each patron on those standards??  don't be silly.

if a restaurant refused to serve josh earnest in 2010 claiming it was because he wasn't "honest, compassionate, or cooperative," we would all roll our eyes at how utterly retarded it was...

 

 

it is known, end of the year.

You did not give the validation junkies their drug and thus have ignited their righteous anger.   That stuff is like greek fire and no amount of reasoning or explanations is going to put it out.

[lemonlime 5503]

10 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

It's not distracting anyone. This November is an election for or against Donald Trump.

He's going to lose bigly.

Trump's certainly trying to distract his base.  He may not be succeeding with anyone else at this point.

Trump hasn't gotten the terrorist attack he wanted, to inflame his base against brown people, so he's digging in where he can. And is left with brown people being rude to his press secretary.