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Ugh. Rules are rules for a reason and breaking the rules has consequences. You can’t just opt-out of rules in life. These kids with parents like that are being raised to fail.
The AISD mask mandate doesn't start till tomorrow.

No rules broken if that meet the teacher was today for an AISD school.
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18 minutes ago, smoky said:

The AISD mask mandate doesn't start till tomorrow.

No rules broken if that meet the teacher was today for an AISD school.

It’s on Friday.  And the mask requirement for the event was explicitly mentioned in the email.

So the question was as petulant as it sounded.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Muy Frio said:

Unless your first grader has some comorbidities, then it’s highly unlikely that they’ll get very sick even if they contract it. 

As a parent of a child with "some comorbidities," go fuck yourself you piece of shit.  

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3 hours ago, utee94 said:

We're in LISD and I told my kids that they should wear masks.  They said, "Sure."  They're fine with it, it's no big deal to them at all.

My kids (elementary-age) have not been pussies at all about it, and are actually of the mindset that it's good to help out others.  Helps that they have a young cousin whose immune system is compromised, as well as some elderly relatives who would die with Delta.

Meanwhile, we have plenty of 30-something and 40-something toddlers in the family who can't handle the schools mandating it, and most of them don't even have kids (or they are homeschooled) which really pisses me off.  None of those motherfuckers had to to police two Zoom sessions at the same time for weeks on end, with kids who know how to multitask on iPads.

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6 minutes ago, 3shot said:

As a parent of a child with "some comorbidities," go fuck yourself you piece of shit.  

Or my friend, whose kid is probably fine....but whose husband is on an organ donor waiting list.  Won't it be cool when her son brings home COVID, gives it to dad, and kills him?  Man, that's some super Patriot Flag Eagle Freedom right there, that's what that is!

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

 

yes, yes, 100% this!!!!!  ESPECIALLY THE COMPARISON TO THE RISKS OF RIDING IN A CAR AND SUCH!!!!

Wait.....what's that?  With respect to riding in a car, we literally have LAWS intended to mitigate the risks?  Laws like:

requiring small kids to be in car seats

requiring older kids to be buckled in by seatbelts

requiring all drivers to be licensed, which requires a basic skill test

having speed limits for roads to set safe speeds

having traffic signals and stop signs, to keep cars from smashing into each other at intersections

etc. for about a million other things

 

Now, do those work perfectly?  Of course not.  People still speed, run stop signs, and hurt others because of it.  But having those things MITIGATES risk, even thought it can't be eliminated 100%.

But here in Texas, when it comes to the risk to schoolchildren caused by COVID.....we literally have the governor ORDERING that risk mitigation measures (wearing a mask is like driving the speed limit -- it protects both you and those around you) CANNOT BE IMPOSED BY LOCAL AUTHORITIES.  Our governor functionally said "establishing speed limits, and putting in stop signs, is BANNED.  We must trust all drivers to drive safely and protect those around them."

Jesus Tapdancing Christ, it's perhaps the most depraved thing I've ever seen done with respect to education.

We have laws REQUIRING schools to report a case of lice (which, unless they are giant mutated forms in a comic book, I have never heard of lice killing anyone), but the TEA issues guidance AGAINST reporting cases of a deadly disease?

You think this is fine?  You must be TERRIBLE at risk mitigation, because you are all in favor of an approach that BANS it.

Not at all what I’m saying. I’m literally saying that you are “taking a chance with your kids life” with every decision that is made. 
Every point I have ever made is that life inherently carries risks and the decisions made with risks need to represent a cost balancing approach with harm where the cost of any action is weighed against the harm that can be produced by said action. 
And, this should be a communal decision arrived at. If AISD wants to mandate masks fine, good for them. I don’t give a shit. If someone thinks that all risk can be mitigated or life isn’t inherently a risk b reward situation I’m going to push back on that notion. 
If the risk from delta is high enough for kids mine won’t leave the house. If it’s the same as it has been for the first 16 months of COVID then I’m not concerned- because they engage in plenty of other similarly low risk situations every day that could lead to disaster or death in a very very slight chance, but to avoid them would lead to a life not worth living. 

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

 

You think this is fine?  You must be TERRIBLE at risk mitigation

I am not going to bother reading the rest of the thread past this…if someone didn’t jam this layup down, will be disappointed. 

the dude literally drove into a fucking bridge. 

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16 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

I've only been around a few years. I need to hear this story

Phenomenal read. Start from the beginning.  Seriously, Mark Twain and Faulkner could not have crafted a better tale of modern americana  

 

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Just wait till he discovers online porn.....

I'm scared shitless of the thought.

I mean, fuck, my first porn was found literally in the woods, in the back of a closet of a friend's parent, and in the ceiling of a 6th grade bathroom, and it was not a lot of porn, and it was well-earned.

Meanwhile our kids..

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If someone thinks that all risk can be mitigated or life isn’t inherently a risk b reward situation I’m going to push back on that notion. 
If the risk from delta is high enough for kids mine won’t leave the house. If it’s the same as it has been for the first 16 months of COVID then I’m not concerned- because they engage in plenty of other similarly low risk situations every day that could lead to disaster or death in a very very slight chance, but to avoid them would lead to a life not worth living. 


No shit life is a risky proposition in every way.

But while all risks can’t be ELIMINATED, almost all can be MITIGATED. I don’t live my life in fear. Far from it. But I’m also not a dumbass. I wear a seatbelt. I don’t walk down dark alleys in unfamiliar cities when I can walk on well lit streets. And a million other things that have a very low cost, but mitigate risk.

Wearing a mask is absolutely one of those things.

And while we mandate literally thousands of other things….we literally PROHIBIT schools from mandating a low-cost risk mitigation measure.

We can’t make our schools perfectly safe from Covid. But we can make them safer, with a very minimal effort. Except, you know, we can’t. Because psychotic sociopathic reasons.
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5 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

More kids died in 2019 of strep throat than died in 2020 of Covid.  

More kids died walking to school, riding a bus or riding in a car to and from school in 2019 than died in 2020 of Covid.  

The problem with transmission in schools is not limited to the direct health consequences to children. Kids are not only victims; they’re also vectors. Schools are well-documented contributors to disease propagation. Packing kids into an enclosed box for 7 hours a day, five days a week without masks is a recipe for an uncontrollable Covid wildfire.

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8 hours ago, Kringelbert Fishtybuns said:

The principal sent out an update email for masks, meet the teacher, etc. this afternoon.  The first comment, which was not anonymous, was the following
 

“Will our children be able to ignore or break school rules or policies they don’t agree with or feel like following?”


I assumed it was in jest and laughed heartily.  My wife believes it to be serious which causes my brain to hurt.

Having a teacher for a wife (no pics) and knowing what abject morons many of her students' parents are, I have zero difficulty believing comment was 100% serious.

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8 hours ago, utee94 said:

We're in LISD and I told my kids that they should wear masks.  They said, "Sure."  They're fine with it, it's no big deal to them at all.

They're not toddlers, they're 11 and 13 yo (and the 13 yo is vaccinated), so they get it and have no issues with it.

Currently LISD is suggesting masks but not requiring them.  But sometimes, once AISD and RRISD make a move, LISD will follow.  

 

7 hours ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

Also in LISD with kids the same ages.  Their reaction is the same.  The oldest is doing it to show support for the younger one who can't be vaccinated.

Kids are ready af to go back to school and get out of the house. Wearing a mask is a small price to pay, and they understand that.

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1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

The problem with transmission in schools is not limited to the direct health consequences to children. Kids are not only victims; they’re also vectors. Schools are well-documented contributors to disease propagation. Packing kids into an enclosed box for 7 hours a day, five days a week without masks is a recipe for an uncontrollable Covid wildfire.

The last 18 months have been some of the healthiest for me in years, at least since my oldest started pre-K.

It was fucking weird going over a year without a cold or a flu.

I don't want my kids masking up for years to come, but fuck me do they bring home a lot of shit.

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San Antone area:

Today's court injunction suspends the governor's orders for now. We must follow the local health department's mandate. Starting tomorrow all students, staff, and parents in our district facilities must wear a mask. All Covid cases must be reported to parents and any unvaccinated students or staff who have been exposed to a positive Covid individual must quarantine for 14 days. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to let me know. Thank you. 

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Pretty much the only kids who complain about wearing a mask are kids of parents that complain about wearing a mask or hang out with kids with parents that complain about it.

It has never been an option in our house. It's never been an option in a dozen friends' houses. None of our kids have an issue with masks.  8 of them are at a summer childcare at a house in the 'hood right now. They will wear a mask every second of the day they are not eating or drinking.  Not one of them has ever complained about it.

Be a good example for your kids. Eliminate bad examples from your life.

 

 

 

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Apparently the Eanes school board meeting last night was wild.  Some doctors showed up (white coats and all) to explain the data and make the case for masks. A parent yelled out, "that's just your opinion!" and screamed at the board about how masks are killing kids.  Good times!  Meanwhile, all teachers and staff (about 500 people) are packed at the WHS cafeteria this morning for convocation, and a good chunk have no mask.

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23 minutes ago, Cap33 said:

about how masks are killing kids

This is something baffling to me.  WTF are they even talking about?  What kid has DIED from.....wearing a mask?  I mean.....y'all are familiar with the fact that surgeons and other medical professionals have been wearing masks, functionally all-day, every-day, for well over a century, right?  I get that masks aren't FUN, or the most comfortable thing you've ever worn, but for fuck's sake, "they're killing our kids!  They can't breathe!" -- that's fucking insane, and just flat-out lies.

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28 minutes ago, Cap33 said:

Apparently the Eanes school board meeting last night was wild.  Some doctors showed up (white coats and all) to explain the data and make the case for masks. A parent yelled out, "that's just your opinion!" and screamed at the board about how masks are killing kids.  Good times!  Meanwhile, all teachers and staff (about 500 people) are packed at the WHS cafeteria this morning for convocation, and a good chunk have no mask.

it was actually significantly more subdued than i expected.  only three hours of complete horseshit.  it is a bit of a unique circumstance that basically all the doctors in town live in our district so they were able to show up in such a visible force to counter the looney tunes.  it made a huge difference in the evening.

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Fort Worth ISD requiring masks

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2021/08/10/fort-worth-isd-requiring-students-employees-wear-masks-buildings-school-buses/

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Fort Worth ISD updated its mask policy Tuesday night, August 10, for the upcoming school year.

The district is now requiring masks on all employees and students inside district facilities and on school buses.

And from what it sounds like in the news, Corpus Christi will probably be announcing today or tomorrow.

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There will probably be more kids in school if there are masks, and that's what the districts are looking at (even if it's not a primary driver of the mandates, it's a massive issue).  We know plenty of people who were not going to let their kids go if there was no mask mandate.  We know plenty of anti-mask types who, for all of their bluster, don't want to spend their days policing their kids on Zoom and/or can't take off from work to watch their kids.

Without getting into the decision-making behind it, schools were going to be financially penalized in some manner if kids (and teachers) are stuck at home due to quarantines, or doing virtual learning.  Eating the $1,000 fines, even if it's per day, was not going to be an issue for a lot of districts.

Shit, some districts were going to force teachers to take what little PTO (or whatever it's called) they have  if they end up in quarantine because they were exposed in the classroom, because there were funding issues with how to handle staff being quarantined this year.  If it were a business, this is the equivalent of some dipshit coming in to the office, testing positive, and you are sent home and get to eat through your PTO/vacation/whatever because of it.

I expect we will see plenty more districts opting for masks in the coming week.

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Just now, CooterBrown said:

I've been to 3 McCallum volleyball games so far this season. A scrimmage at Bastrop (with Lexington also), Killeen Shoemaker, and at Hutto yesterday.

It's night and day. 100% of McCallum players, coaches, and family are masked.  0% are masked from the shitholes.

That's the other issue - once you start seeing high schools (and jr highs) having to forfeit games because players are infected, you'll see a lot of movement, even in districts that don't have official policies, to mask up.

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1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

That's the other issue - once you start seeing high schools (and jr highs) having to forfeit games because players are infected, you'll see a lot of movement, even in districts that don't have official policies, to mask up.

It'll be fun to see the reaction when they have to play at an AISD campus starting today and all visitors are required to be masked.  There's gonna be a few fat and loud freedom warriors in the stands.

 

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13 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

 


No shit life is a risky proposition in every way.

But while all risks can’t be ELIMINATED, almost all can be MITIGATED. I don’t live my life in fear. Far from it. But I’m also not a dumbass. I wear a seatbelt. I don’t walk down dark alleys in unfamiliar cities when I can walk on well lit streets. And a million other things that have a very low cost, but mitigate risk.

Wearing a mask is absolutely one of those things.

And while we mandate literally thousands of other things….we literally PROHIBIT schools from mandating a low-cost risk mitigation measure.

We can’t make our schools perfectly safe from Covid. But we can make them safer, with a very minimal effort. Except, you know, we can’t. Because psychotic sociopathic reasons.

 

These are the same folks who will never be mugged or in some shootout, but will be all too happy and proud to carry a gun. 

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6 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

It'll be fun to see the reaction when they have to play at an AISD campus starting today and all visitors are required to be masked.  There's gonna be a few fat and loud freedom warriors in the stands.

Please film it for the rest of us and start a thread in Lulz.

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Just now, SmokeyTheBear said:

These are the same folks who will never be mugged or in some shootout, but will be all too happy and proud to carry a gun. 

Bingo.

Or, the type who have lectured  us every time we've traveled to places like France, or Germany -- "they have terrorist attacks over there!  I wouldn't go if I was you!"

So....based on the risk of something that literally kills fewer than one in a million people each year in Europe (so, ultra-low risk).....I should take the EXTREME measure of refusing to go there at all.

But for something that has a much, much higher risk of killing you or causing serious bodily injury (COVID).....I shouldn't take ANY ultra-low cost and low risk measure, like wearing a mask or getting vaccinated.

The core problem is that these morons are fucking TERRIBLE at math.

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Dallas judge allows Dallas/FW mask mandate.

Manor ISD offering virtual for those 12 and younger, if you need it, sign up quick.

https://www.kxan.com/news/education/set-for-school/virtual-learning-available-for-manor-isd-students-12-younger-applications-open-today/

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Students who are 12 and younger are eligible to enroll in the newly-announced virtual learning option at the Manor Independent School District. 

Applications for the Virtual Learning Academy will go live at 12 p.m. Wednesday on the Manor ISD website. The district stated families can apply until “capacity is reached.” However, it’s unclear how many spots are available.

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The district shared it will only provide the virtual learning option for the first nine weeks of the new school year. 

The virtual learning application will remain open until noon on August 18 or until capacity is reached, the district stated.

 

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16 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Bingo.

Or, the type who have lectured  us every time we've traveled to places like France, or Germany -- "they have terrorist attacks over there!  I wouldn't go if I was you!"

So....based on the risk of something that literally kills fewer than one in a million people each year in Europe (so, ultra-low risk).....I should take the EXTREME measure of refusing to go there at all.

But for something that has a much, much higher risk of killing you or causing serious bodily injury (COVID).....I shouldn't take ANY ultra-low cost and low risk measure, like wearing a mask or getting vaccinated.

The core problem is that these morons are fucking TERRIBLE at math.

For children it should be noted that the risk of killing/causing injury is extraordinarily low. The swine flu, which was 5 times more likely to kill kids, didn't cause us to do any of this.  Maybe you should brush up on your math.

And, we are vaxxed and our kids are masked in school.  I just don't appreciate all your sanctimony and CAPS in your posts.  You come off like a dick at all times, which whether you realize it or not, directly contributes to people being antimask or antivax.  So why don't you take the ultra low cost effort and just not be a dick.

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2 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

For children it should be noted that the risk of killing/causing injury is extraordinarily low. The swine flu, which was 5 times more likely to kill kids, didn't cause us to do any of this.  Maybe you should brush up on your math.

And, we are vaxxed and our kids are masked in school.  I just don't appreciate all your sanctimony and CAPS in your posts.  You come off like a dick at all times, which whether you realize it or not, directly contributes to people being antimask or antivax.  So why don't you take the ultra low cost effort and just not be a dick.

For children, it should be noted that they are highly effective vectors of transmission of contagious illnesses to those at home, including vulnerable family members.  This is something that literally every parent knows from experience (catching every damned cold they bring home from school).  That is also a large part of the calculus -- the goal is to 1) keep Johnny Schoolkid safe, and 2) keep Johnny Schoolkid from bringing home an illness that kills vulnerable siblings, parents, grandparents, etc.

I don't care if I come off as a dick.  I quit caring a long fucking time ago.  I come off as a dick because I.....post something?  Whereas antivaxxers come off as dicks because they engage in a path that actually endangers the lives and safety of others.  I think I'm comfortable being on my side of that equation.

And finally, if your decision to be antivax or anti-mask is based on the fact that someone hurt your feelings on the internet, you just confessed to having the dumbest goddamned decision-making process on earth.   If observing that truth, out loud, makes me a dick, then call me Sir Richard, I wear it with pride.

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

For children, it should be noted that they are highly effective vectors of transmission of contagious illnesses to those at home, including vulnerable family members.  This is something that literally every parent knows from experience (catching every damned cold they bring home from school).  That is also a large part of the calculus -- the goal is to 1) keep Johnny Schoolkid safe, and 2) keep Johnny Schoolkid from bringing home an illness that kills vulnerable siblings, parents, grandparents, etc.

I don't care if I come off as a dick.  I quit caring a long fucking time ago.  I come off as a dick because I.....post something?  Whereas antivaxxers come off as dicks because they engage in a path that actually endangers the lives and safety of others.  I think I'm comfortable being on my side of that equation.

And finally, if your decision to be antivax or anti-mask is based on the fact that someone hurt your feelings on the internet, you just confessed to having the dumbest goddamned decision-making process on earth.   If observing that truth, out loud, makes me a dick, then call me Sir Richard, I wear it with pride.

Oh I agree.  Our kids didn't get sick at all last year so, at least anecdotally, clearly there is effectiveness.  

Congrats then Sir Richard.  You're doing your part! 

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27 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

The swine flu, which was 5 times more likely to kill kids, didn't cause us to do any of this.  Maybe you should brush up on your math.

The swine flu infected 56 million, caused 274,000 hospitalizations and 12,500 deaths in the US.

Covid-19 has infected 36 million people (I could be wrong on this), and killed 618,000 people.  At one point back in January, we had over 130,000 people hospitalized at the same time.  I'm going to assume that more than 274,000 people have been hospitalized in total for covid.

When we had swine flu running rampant, I don't recall refrigeration trucks being used as portable morgues in Texas because the actual morgues were full, but maybe I missed that.

I didn't know a single person who died fro the swine flu, and it had been 20+ years since I knew somebody who died from the regular flu.  I know quite a few who have died from covid.

You should probably take a look at the math as well.

A better comparison is the 1918-1921 flu or whatever.  They worked to mitigate it where they could, and it led to things like tile bathrooms in school (That could be easily cleaned).

 

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55 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

The swine flu infected 56 million, caused 274,000 hospitalizations and 12,500 deaths in the US.

Covid-19 has infected 36 million people (I could be wrong on this), and killed 618,000 people.  At one point back in January, we had over 130,000 people hospitalized at the same time.  I'm going to assume that more than 274,000 people have been hospitalized in total for covid.

When we had swine flu running rampant, I don't recall refrigeration trucks being used as portable morgues in Texas because the actual morgues were full, but maybe I missed that.

I didn't know a single person who died fro the swine flu, and it had been 20+ years since I knew somebody who died from the regular flu.  I know quite a few who have died from covid.

You should probably take a look at the math as well.

A better comparison is the 1918-1921 flu or whatever.  They worked to mitigate it where they could, and it led to things like tile bathrooms in school (That could be easily cleaned).

 

None of that has anything to do with whether the swine flu is deadlier for kids than Covid.

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17 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

None of that has anything to do with whether the swine flu is deadlier for kids than Covid.

Or that they can transmit delta just fine, whereas the under 13 age group didn’t transmit alpha at all.  So we should have a great time once school starts.

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2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The swine flu infected 56 million, caused 274,000 hospitalizations and 12,500 deaths in the US.

Covid-19 has infected 36 million people (I could be wrong on this), and killed 618,000 people.  At one point back in January, we had over 130,000 people hospitalized at the same time.  I'm going to assume that more than 274,000 people have been hospitalized in total for covid.

When we had swine flu running rampant, I don't recall refrigeration trucks being used as portable morgues in Texas because the actual morgues were full, but maybe I missed that.

I didn't know a single person who died fro the swine flu, and it had been 20+ years since I knew somebody who died from the regular flu.  I know quite a few who have died from covid.

You should probably take a look at the math as well.

A better comparison is the 1918-1921 flu or whatever.  They worked to mitigate it where they could, and it led to things like tile bathrooms in school (That could be easily cleaned).

 

Nevermind.  Johnny beat me to it. 

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1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

That wasn't the issue being discussed that he replied to.

Just now, Wulaw Horn said:

I think the part you missed was "5 times more likely to kill KIDS" in his post. 

I didn't miss it at all.  He wants to know why we are doing all of this.  I told him.

But since I apparently wasn't clear enough, I'll explain a little more.

Swine Flu infected around 61 million Americans. Covid infected 36 million Americans.

Swine Flu saw a total of 274,000 people hospitalized.  Covid-19 saw nearly half that many hospitalized on a single day.

Swine Flu killed 12,500 here in the US.  Covid-19 has killed almost 620,000 here in the US  (Swine Flu killed around 200,000 worldwide in total).

Swine Flu killed 282 children in the US.  Covid-19 has killed 350 children and counting.

Yes, Swine Flue was more likely to kill, but COVID-19 has ultimately killed more kids.

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9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I didn't miss it at all.  He wants to know why we are doing all of this.  I told him.

But since I apparently wasn't clear enough, I'll explain a little more.

Swine Flu infected around 61 million Americans. Covid infected 36 million Americans.

Swine Flu saw a total of 274,000 people hospitalized.  Covid-19 saw nearly half that many hospitalized on a single day.

Swine Flu killed 12,500 here in the US.  Covid-19 has killed almost 620,000 here in the US  (Swine Flu killed around 200,000 worldwide in total).

Swine Flu killed 282 children in the US.  Covid-19 has killed 350 children and counting.

Yes, Swine Flue was more likely to kill, but COVID-19 has ultimately killed more kids.

The CDC reported that the Swine Flu killed 1,180 children

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna35367744

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27 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I didn't miss it at all.  He wants to know why we are doing all of this.  I told him.

But since I apparently wasn't clear enough, I'll explain a little more.

Swine Flu infected around 61 million Americans. Covid infected 36 million Americans.

Swine Flu saw a total of 274,000 people hospitalized.  Covid-19 saw nearly half that many hospitalized on a single day.

Swine Flu killed 12,500 here in the US.  Covid-19 has killed almost 620,000 here in the US  (Swine Flu killed around 200,000 worldwide in total).

Swine Flu killed 282 children in the US.  Covid-19 has killed 350 children and counting.

Yes, Swine Flue was more likely to kill, but COVID-19 has ultimately killed more kids.

No, I know why we are doing all this which you were clear about when you immediately shifted to pointing out how deadly covid is to everyone but kids.  I haven't seen data yet on kids being vectors of transmission for delta but, as someone pointed out, they did not transmit alpha.  

Regardless, the main point I was trying to get across specifically to Brisket is that as he was pleading with people to just do an ultra-low cost measure I pointed out that his posting style contributes to the problem he so desperately wants to fix.  His individual ultra ultra ultra low cost measure that could have a direct impact on gross vaccination and mask numbers given he’s a prolific and respected poster on a very popular and frequented website is to just not be a sanctimonious dick about everything.  He responded that he doesn’t care and he’s going to do what he wants, which is ironic given he also bitches and moans about American's selfish narcissistic behavior all the time and yet when he’s presented with an opportunity to differentiate himself, he passes. 

Anyhow, Texas researches estimate Texas at 69% immunity when combining infection and vaccination status.  If the Delta Ro is 7 or 8 we need to get to 85 to 88% before herd immunity.  Delta going to take care of that in the next few weeks.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210810/New-estimate-of-total-immunity-to-SARS-CoV-2-in-Texas.aspx

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