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So, uh, what forms did Trump fill out, or grades did he have to get into Wharton? His transcript from when he was there?

When's all that shit going to be released/leaked?

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I mean, if we're going to be concerned about academic qualifications or whether someone got an unfair leg-up on getting into a prestigious college, shouldn't we be focusing on the guy in the Oval Office? Or are we only concerned about that sort of thing when it comes to students from a different background? If it's the case that we're going to be picky and choosy about when we apply standards, then why give a fuck at all?

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23 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Concern troll is VERY concerned. 

Get over yourself.  I can't vote there, but I do pay rent in NYC, my daughter lives in the Lower East Side, and I spend 5-10 days a month in the city for work as my company is based there. So yes, I have an interest in this race - particularly housing affordability. 
Honestly, all the options they have at this point are bad, Mamdani being the least bad option.
 

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45 minutes ago, bolverk said:

So, uh, what forms did Trump fill out, or grades did he have to get into Wharton? His transcript from when he was there?

When's all that shit going to be released/leaked?

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I mean, if we're going to be concerned about academic qualifications or whether someone got an unfair leg-up on getting into a prestigious college, shouldn't we be focusing on the guy in the Oval Office? Or are we only concerned about that sort of thing when it comes to students from a different background? If it's the case that we're going to be picky and choosy about when we apply standards, then why give a fuck at all?

Mmmm. That's MAGA-grade whataboutism right there.  Are you saying I shouldn't care about children of privilege cutting the line? Because that's very likely what Trump did, it's what Bush did, but Mamdani should get a pass because ... he comes from a "different background?" My dude, he is the son of a very famous Columbia professor and an even more famous and successful movie director.  Are academic and media nepobabies suddenly an underrepresented or disadvantaged minority at elite universities?

Again, I don't think Mamdani will win or lose because of this, but y'all seem to object to this story being out there and you sound like Republicans.

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2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

That’s sophistry. 

It was certainly politically motivated hacking, but since we unfortunately live in an era when literal Nazis are out in public again, we probably shouldn’t say it was “Nazis” unless actual fascist white nationalists is who we are talking about.

That said, it really doesn’t matter. Mamdani has presented himself as a champion of working people and minorities, and while this this has clearly made him appealing in NYs affluent and well creative class, his support has not been very strong with black and working class voters.
Claiming to be “black or African American” as a person with two Indian parents will make that worse. It looks like an attempt to access a racial preference that was made available at Columbia to address the long term structural inequities that resulted from black African slavery, and you know that. And he almost certainly knew it when he checked the box on a technicality. I know a rich white guy who was born in Nigeria. Is he African American? I know multiple Afrikaans people whose parents fled when apartheid ended- should they be able to access affirmative action? Of course not and you know that too. 

Speaking as the kind of person who comes from a working class background that Mamdani needs to win the general: this looks like yet another example of the children of privilege attempting to cut the line.

 

Oh you mean working class whites and and poor blacks don’t like a successful brown guy and will look for a stupid reason to vote against their best interests? Gtfoh

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7 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Mmmm. That's MAGA-grade whataboutism right there.  Are you saying I shouldn't care about children of privilege cutting the line? Because that's very likely what Trump did, it's what Bush did, but Mamdani should get a pass because ... he comes from a "different background?" My dude, he is the son of a very famous Columbia professor and an even more famous and successful movie director.  Are academic and media nepobabies suddenly an underrepresented or disadvantaged minority at elite universities?

Again, I don't think Mamdani will win or lose because of this, but y'all seem to object to this story being out there and you sound like Republicans.

My dude, I'm just playing the game of "American Politics 2025: MAGA!1!!"

As you've correctly pointed out, throw everything out the window and find a candidate who can just win, baby.

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2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:


Claiming to be “black or African American” as a person with two Indian parents will make that worse. It looks like an attempt to access a racial preference that was made available at Columbia to address the long term structural inequities that resulted from black African slavery, and you know that. And he almost certainly knew it when he checked the box on a technicality. I know a rich white guy who was born in Nigeria. Is he African American? I know multiple Afrikaans people whose parents fled when apartheid ended- should they be able to access affirmative action? Of course not and you know that too. 

2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Well he didn’t get in but it certainly reflects poorly on his character. More importantly, however, it undermines a core part of his appeal. 
That’s not to say he will lose, he’s still the front runner but not by a lot. He already had a problem among black voters and working class people. This will only make that worse. 

 

No it won’t.

 

Signed, 

A Black

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“The New York Times collaborated with a white nationalist eugenicist hacker and agreed to keep his identity a secret to publish a Zohran Mamdani hit piece” is a way bigger story than “18 year old Zohran Mamdani ticked ‘African American’ on his Columbia application because he was a citizen of Uganda”

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16 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Oh you mean working class whites and and poor blacks don’t like a successful brown guy and will look for a stupid reason to vote against their best interests? Gtfoh

People vote against their own interests all the time for dumb reasons, but who gets to decide what their interests are?

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17 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

No it won’t.

 

Signed, 

A Black

It won’t make it worse or it won’t matter? It probably won’t matter, but how do you figure it won’t make it worse? 
 

Signed, a working class person who spends a lot of time in NY. 

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9 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

People vote against their own interests all the time for dumb reasons, but who gets to decide what their interests are?

Make the case for each of the other declared candidates’ having a path to victory presuming Adams and Cuomo are running

1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

It won’t make it worse or it won’t matter? It probably won’t matter, but how do you figure it won’t make it worse? 
 

Signed, a working class person who spends a lot of time in NY. 

If you are able to spend a lot of time in New York, by definition, you’re not working class

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16 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Make the case for each of the other declared candidates’ having a path to victory presuming Adams and Cuomo are running

If you are able to spend a lot of time in New York, by definition, you’re not working class

Well I said it wouldn’t matter, Mamdani will probably win and he’s the best bad option. But I’m not ready to count either Cuomo or Adams out, either. 
And for the record, Doctor, once you get enough dirt under your fingernails you’ll never get it out. I can be high income and inshallah could maybe even be wealthy at some point.
I’m certainly rich in all the ways that matter. But I’ll be working class until the day I die. 

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6 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Well I said it wouldn’t matter, Mamdani will probably win and he’s the best bad option. But I’m not ready to count either Cuomo or Adams out, either. 
And for the record, Doctor, once you get enough dirt under your fingernails you’ll never get it out. I can be high income and inshallah could maybe even be wealthy at some point.
I’m certainly rich in all the ways that matter. But I’ll be working class until the day I die. 

Is this where we argue about who grew up poorer? lol I’m pretty sure I’ll win that based on your descriptions of your high school days. And you may retain empathy for the working class until the day you die, but you ain’t that any more

 

edit and from what you post you, like I have tried to do with mine, have been able to instill that empathy in your children, no small feat

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36 minutes ago, Thermos H. Christ said:

“The New York Times collaborated with a white nationalist eugenicist hacker and agreed to keep his identity a secret to publish a Zohran Mamdani hit piece” is a way bigger story than “18 year old Zohran Mamdani ticked ‘African American’ on his Columbia application because he was a citizen of Uganda”

Of course it isn’t a bigger story. You sound like Sean Hannity.

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8 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Is this where we argue about who grew up poorer? lol I’m pretty sure I’ll win that based on your descriptions of your high school days. And you may retain empathy for the working class until the day you die, but you ain’t that any more

My high school days? You mean the year I got called white trash by kids at St Marks and a kid’s mom told me she was “embarrassed” for my grandmother based on my family and my other grandparents? 
I had my nose pressed against some nice windows for a while. That’s about it. 
But, it’s not a contest- we were never poor. Working class people aren’t poor. 

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1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

My high school days? You mean the year I got called white trash by kids at St Marks and a kid’s mom told me she was “embarrassed” for my grandmother based on my family? 
I had my nose pressed against some nice windows for a while. That’s about it. 
 

I’d trade that for having the water and gas turned off (do you know how far behind you have to be for the public utilities to shut you off?) in our leaky rental house that backed up to a railroad track that was close enough to an intersection that required them to use their horn. And what do you know they hook up at the rice driers at the most ungodly hours

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21 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Well I said it wouldn’t matter, Mamdani will probably win and he’s the best bad option. But I’m not ready to count either Cuomo or Adams out, either. 
And for the record, Doctor, once you get enough dirt under your fingernails you’ll never get it out. I can be high income and inshallah could maybe even be wealthy at some point.
I’m certainly rich in all the ways that matter. But I’ll be working class until the day I die. 

Wait, why is Mamdani a bad option?

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11 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

But, it’s not a contest- we were never poor. Working class people aren’t poor

You’re right. I never missed a meal. I bet my mom missed more than one though. Congrats on st marks though seriously. Kids suck. We always lived in the cheapest apartment/rent house or trailer park that would feed the “rich” schools.
 

One time in 5th grade my mom got me a cool shirt from Goodwill. Problem was it had belonged to a kid in my school and a small stain that he recognized when we were at recess. It went about how you imagine it would 

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7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Wait, why is Mamdani a bad option?

He’s bad in all the ways normal politicians are bad, plus he’s super green, and plans to spend a great deal of political capital on things that won’t move the needle much. 
I like that he’s young and willing to try new things or at least moot new ideas. I don’t see any reason to expect he can navigate all the competing interests and bureaucratic antibodies though. Brad Landers was a better option in every way. 

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24 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Wait, why is Mamdani a bad option?

Is this a serious question?

Anyways, I don’t think it’s exactly a mystery that he is an affluent guy LARPing as DSA working class hero. There’s plenty of other content out there for amusement. 

 

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14 hours ago, pacman said:

Thought nyt was not in favor of publishing hacked information, via Trump emails hacked by Iran?

 

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I'd guess there's like an 80%+ chance Mandani's parents and/or school counselor encouraged him to check the box for African American. But I think the much bigger deal is how this story got to the New York Times in the first place, how they reported it, and what that reveals about how they operate.

It's not that long ago that the Times refused to published hacked and leaked materials that were much more newsworthy: the Trump campaign's oppo research file on Vance.  But here, a freelance medical reporter (whose main beat appears to be anti-trans shit) was given hacked college student application records by Jordan Lasker, who is friends with Richard Hanania, is a fairly well known white supremacist, eugenicist, and peddler of racist pseudoscience, and is grad school dropout who committed academic misconduct so severe he got a tenured co-author of a paper he worked on fired. In short, he's a fucking nazi.  Also, this isn't as big of a deal, but his twitter handle "cremieux" is a cum joke and his reddit handle is trannyporn0.

Now, depending on the information and the story, maybe the fact that the source is a nazi doesn't keep you from reporting it.  But a real journalistic outfit would be pretty fucking careful. They'd want to make sure they weren't being used to advance the nazi's agenda and they would want to be honest with their audience about who their source was.  Did the Times do any of that? No. They were happy to tell exactly the story the nazi wanted them to tell, they gave the nazi anonymity, and even described him as an "academic" so their audience would think the source was something other than a dipshit, gutter racist little nazi freak. And published this on the same day SCOTUS just gave the OK for Trump to illegally render people to third-world torture prisons and the GOP passed their bill destroying Medicaid and giving ICE a bigger budget than all but two militaries on the planet get. 

The Times' ownership has reduced it to a shitty nazi propaganda rag. And the real cherry on top of this story? 

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They did all this so their source could try to make some money gambling on the effect he thought the story would have on the prediction markets, but it had none. 

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Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I'd guess there's like an 80%+ chance Mandani's parents and/or school counselor encouraged him to check the box for African American.

Yes, that’s how entitlement works. Maybe they should have hired someone to photoshop his head onto a rower!
 

 

12 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

But I think the much bigger deal is how this story got to the New York Times in the first place, how they reported it, and what that reveals about how they operate.

Sure. The REAL scandal is how the voting public got this true and possibly salient information. He should start calling it “the Columbia Columbia Columbia hoax.”

There was no admission!

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5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Yes, that’s how entitlement works. Maybe they should have hired someone to photoshop his head onto a rower!
 

 

Sure. The REAL scandal is how the voting public got this true and possibly salient information. He should start calling it “the Columbia Columbia Columbia hoax.”

There was no admission!

Man, if after everything that has happened here the past ten years you're still not concerned about the most prestigious newspapers in our country lending mainstream legitimacy to fascist propaganda, I don't know what to tell you.   

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

He’s bad in all the ways normal politicians are bad, plus he’s super green, and plans to spend a great deal of political capital on things that won’t move the needle much. 
I like that he’s young and willing to try new things or at least moot new ideas. I don’t see any reason to expect he can navigate all the competing interests and bureaucratic antibodies though. Brad Landers was a better option in every way. 

Why are so many better options so bad at politics?

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33 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Man, if after everything that has happened here the past ten years you're still not concerned about the most prestigious newspapers in our country lending mainstream legitimacy to fascist propaganda, I don't know what to tell you.   

It’s not like this is their first rodeo. 29 different anti-trans amicus briefs in Skrmetti cited anti-trans reporting from the NYT. They sure love them some Israel, too. They are a reactionary publication. 

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