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We’re in a NFL style era of championship windows, Sark has to win a title in the next two years with the roster he has built before we are in rebuild mode. I just don’t believe that Texas is going to have some late surge of flips and sign a top 3 class, that just strikes me as wish casting. Either Texas just doesn’t have the free funds to match other offers given how loaded and expensive our roster is. Or we are going to see the most epic, meltdown, drama filled plane crash if schools are the lying to the order of millions of dollars they don’t have. I really just don’t believe it’s the latter, as much as I want it to be.

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2 minutes ago, Not a Sock said:

We’re in a NFL style era of championship windows, Sark has to win a title in the next two years with the roster he has built before we are in rebuild mode. I don’t believe that Texas is going to have some late surge of flips and sign a top 3 class, that just strikes me as wish casting. Either Texas just doesn’t have the free funds to match other offers given how loaded and expensive the roster is. Or we are going to see the most epic meltdown drama filled plane crash if schools are the lying in the orders of millions of dollars they don’t have. I really just don’t believe it’s the latter, as much as I want it to be.

Come on, dude.  It’s simple.  We have smart people managing the money and the roster.  The schools at the top, aside from Notre Dame, are full of lying scumbags and dumbasses.  I’m awaiting the implosions and, for aggy, the sequel to the best class ever nuclear meltdown.  Somehow I expect Lane Kiffin to benefit mightily from the equivocation of this cycle.

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2 hours ago, immamac said:

If you opt out you are basically done with college athletics

Opting in or out is for plaintiff class members -- athletes.  The defendants are the NCAA and P5 conferences, who are parties to and bound by the settlement.  I'm not sure any universities are actual defendants.

The only opting in or out by universities is leaving their conference.

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3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

“Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: We’re Going To Repeat A Lot Of NIL Discussion” 

If we have to choose a Green Day motif, can we choose something other than their most terrible song?

”Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: Dookie”, for instance. 

Do you have the time 

To listen to me whine

About nothing and everything all at once?

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3 hours ago, RollLeft said:

Texas Recruiting Notes 2026...Good Riddance, Boulevard of Broken Dreams, American Idiot?

I mean no one said it?(and yes I know it's not the title)

"Texas Recruiting Notes 2026: I hope you had the time of your life."

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2 hours ago, Not a Sock said:

We’re in a NFL style era of championship windows, Sark has to win a title in the next two years with the roster he has built before we are in rebuild mode. I just don’t believe that Texas is going to have some late surge of flips and sign a top 3 class, that just strikes me as wish casting. Either Texas just doesn’t have the free funds to match other offers given how loaded and expensive our roster is. Or we are going to see the most epic, meltdown, drama filled plane crash if schools are the lying to the order of millions of dollars they don’t have. I really just don’t believe it’s the latter, as much as I want it to be.

This is how I’ve been feeling. The smart NFL organizations twist themselves into all sorts of cap hell to make a run and then spend 2-3 years unwinding the mess and retooling.

Our boosters just got the hat passed to them to land a #1 class, bring in a bunch of key portal pieces, and also retain substantially everyone from arguably the most talented roster in CFB. That wasn’t cheap. Now we’re in bidding wars for DTs that won’t even see the field until Arch is in a New Orleans Saints jersey? I could definitely see people saying let’s actually win something, then we’ll talk. 

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32 minutes ago, tokamak said:

This is how I’ve been feeling. The smart NFL organizations twist themselves into all sorts of cap hell to make a run and then spend 2-3 years unwinding the mess and retooling.

Our boosters just got the hat passed to them to land a #1 class, bring in a bunch of key portal pieces, and also retain substantially everyone from arguably the most talented roster in CFB. That wasn’t cheap. Now we’re in bidding wars for DTs that won’t even see the field until Arch is in a New Orleans Saints jersey? I could definitely see people saying let’s actually win something, then we’ll talk. 

Thanks for making last plays of the last two seasons feel worse

 

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I haven't been paying a lot of attention to recruiting this cycle, but it seems like almost all of our recruiting "losses" these past few weeks were to out of state talent that up until a few years ago these recruits wouldn't have responded to our phone calls, and now we're in their final 2 or 3 schools. Thats a good trend going forward, even if it hurts to lose these last handful of out-of-state recruits. 

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4 hours ago, David Dennison said:

Are we talking late Mack era bad or what?

worse.  mack won a championship and got us to another that we’d clearly have won if the starting qb doesn’t go down.  sark didn’t even get us to a championship game before his wheels came off and he shit all over himself. 

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6 hours ago, Not a Sock said:

We’re in a NFL style era of championship windows, Sark has to win a title in the next two years with the roster he has built before we are in rebuild mode. I just don’t believe that Texas is going to have some late surge of flips and sign a top 3 class, that just strikes me as wish casting. Either Texas just doesn’t have the free funds to match other offers given how loaded and expensive our roster is. Or we are going to see the most epic, meltdown, drama filled plane crash if schools are the lying to the order of millions of dollars they don’t have. I really just don’t believe it’s the latter, as much as I want it to be.

That is not what is going on.

It's more like a cap has recently been instituted, with no clear enforcement mechanism, and no clear punishments if a team goes over the cap, so some programs are trying to abide by the cap, and others aren't. 

It's basically very similar to pre 2017 except with a higher floor for wages for student athletes. If you want to ignore the rules and spend up to the limit that your boosters will spend above the $20.5 million provided by the athletic department, then go ahead. And we'll see if these enforcement mechanisms have any teeth or not. 

We're extremely early in this iteration of recruiting, so we'll see how Texas responds over time. There's not a need to rush to action simply because people are panicking on message boards. The roster is in great shape. The signing period isn't until December. Let's see what happens. 

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Jesus H Christ....I should have sold my stock in NVDA and bought stock in Tampax and Midol based off this thread.....
 
Ya'll are making me consider taking the drastic step of visiting the football board looking for intelligent conversation....Why would ya'll do that to someone?
 
So anyway....
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I just landed on my flight back from Hawaii and see new CB’s for Ojo, Turntine, and Carlton with Ojo announcing on the 4th of July only to come see this shitshow of a board.
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11 hours ago, SL Xpress said:

Well, any summary of the House settlement is going to be inadequate, because a) it's a summary b) there are unintended consequences, some of which can be foreseen, and some it of which cannot.

College football is in something of an existential crisis. How can that be, SL Xpress? It's never been more popular! The ratings are through the roof. There's more money pouring in than ever before! 

Sure, then a disruption happens, and suddenly we see the cracks in retrospect that were always there previously.

College football has lost control of their labor costs. Over the past 30 years there has been a meteoric rise in salaries among coaches and administrators. There have been facility funding wars. But a lot of that was possible because of the artificial suppression of wages for the players, set at the cost of a scholarship, and then amended over the years to some cost of living and travel expense allowances that didn't even approach the market value of talented players. There has always been a black market since college football became a thing, that grew exponentially after WWII with black market trend setter OU. Saban and others brought around another era which saw the amount given to everyone associated with talented players - including the players themselves, but not exclusively - rise extensively, but since it was a black market, it didn't come close to what their real market value is.

The thing is, college football wages are not tied to profit/loss statements. Businesses can overpay their labor force, until they go out of business or are purchased by someone else because they're no longer competitive. Like someone told me, the numbers don't matter until they matter. For most businesses layoffs occur prior to that because they're not growing enough or they're losing money. 

But for college football players, they're insulated from those dynamics somewhat because their market value is determined by the ego of wealthy boosters, not by profit/loss statements. 

That hasn't changed. The House settlement didn't change that. It's put up some parameters to try to help keep the labor costs from spiraling out of control, but the market is going to do what the market is going to do. Just because someone sets up some boundaries, doesn't mean those boundaries are going to be respected. To have people respect boundaries - and this is in any setting, not just football - there better be some consequences for going off the rails. The more severe the consequences, the more effective the boundaries will be.

What are the consequences for not abiding by the House settlement? Nobody knows. Until that's clear, plenty of groups are going to test things. Which is what we're seeing. Texas is not going to be one of those. Texas sees that the labor market for college football players is unsustainable, so while Texas has a competitive advantage in that landscape, it's not good for the sport as a whole, so they're taking a disciplined approach so far and trying to abide by the letter of the House settlement. At least right now. 

Here's the dirty secret. None of the key decision makers in college football think the House settlement is any kind of answer. They're not fools. That's why the Big Ten and SEC commissioners were in Washington trying to get a bill passed. That's why the Notre Dame AD went golfing with Trump. What they're hoping is that the House settlement shows lawmakers they're trying, but the message to them is "we need legal help from the federal government." Which is a scary phrase to utter, but in this case it's true. There's no mechanism which will allow college football to govern itself effectively. Whatever they try to do will end up in court and be struck down due to antitrust, Title IX, or the issue of players not being classified as employees. Like the movie Wargames "the only real choice is to not play the game," but I think we can all agree none of us want to see Texas opt out of college football a la Ivy League style. 

As far as this recruiting cycle the dynamics have changed, just like they changed when the Alston decision was first handed down. It will continue to change and evolve. closetojumping has the best post I've seen on the subject, and he's as close to a subject matter expert as we have on this board. Here's the link to his post for anyone who didn't see it on the previous page:

 

So we're just going to have to wait and see. We have a great roster right now. UT's response to this new environment is going to continue to evolve, but we have a chairman of the board of regents and an AD who are on the same page with this stuff. We didn't make the decision to join the SEC just to turn into Vanderbilt. I feel highly confident Texas is going to come out of all of this A-OK. But in the short term there's going to be some rough patches. That's what we're seeing right now. 

@CTJ, you, @campcrunk, @texifonia and others have all given wonderful insights. A simple fact from the House ruling that no one has mentioned yet is that if money from either side crosses a state line, you get the BIG boys in suits involved...that becomes an FBI issue. Texas isn't going to play fast and loose with this. aggie already is and, shit don't they still owe their supposed academic side about 20M? Those fools will bankrupt. LSU takes federal funds to pay players. Nothing new from Louisiana, last state to obey federal laws on drinking, have federal funds for interstates withheld (thankfully, I'll admit I was buying drive thru daiquiris at 15 with extra shots of Everclear - wait, that may have been negative for me). Not cloak room, but you don't fuck with the hammer the FBI can bring. Hell, they recruited me! They didn't like my question on, I get to carry a gun always as an accountant? 1997. 

We will get the recruits we need as always. We're not playing any cheating games - didn't under DKR even. Some schools beg for relevance and use bags, illegal funds, whatever, Texas doesn't.

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I had something incredibly prescient, impactful, and possibly even program changing to say about the state of Texas football and recruiting. Then, the series finale of Six Feet Under started playing on Netflix and now I'm a wreck who can't remember any of my astoundingly profound, likely universe-shifting prior thoughts

 

Anyway, since we're already bitching about thread derailments in early July of the recruiting season when very, very little permanently impactful things are happening (at least if we're to believe, as I do, that the program is going to turn up the heat in a big way in a couple of months and leaving some bitch ass, crooked af programs wondering "WTF just happened?"), let me say only this: poor Keith deserved better

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2 minutes ago, campcrunk said:

I had something incredibly prescient, impactful, and possibly even program changing to say about the state of Texas football and recruiting. Then, the series finale of Six Feet Under started playing on Netflix and now I'm a wreck who can't remember any of my astoundingly profound, likely universe-shifting prior thoughts

 

Anyway, since we're already bitching about thread derailments in early July of the recruiting season when very, very little permanently impactful things are happening (at least if we're to believe, as I do, that the program is going to turn up the heat in a big way in a couple of months and leaving some bitch ass, crooked af programs wondering "WTF just happened?"), let me say only this: poor Keith deserved better

If ever near Atlanta, drinks on me Sir. 

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7 minutes ago, Leanderman said:

Lets hope we ever go back to offering kids in wheelchairs though. :)

Come-on man. I went from jogging 3 miles 3x a week swimming miles to 51 with zero beer gut no love handles, still a 32in waist and sometimes I need a wheelchair. MS/hemochromatosis/Parkinson who knows but I can say MRI suck, Spinal tap recovery suck, Catscanes easy issues and frankly left arm isn't working 

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