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1 minute ago, Drew said:

EXACTLY!

She may not be the force Rodman was, but she's in the same vein and could have a long and productive career if she falls into that role.

She is not in the same vein.  She has athletic traits and some skills, but not the grit. 

Dennis was what he was because of his pathway from high school to working at DFW handling luggage to a shitty directional school in Oklahoma after he grew to 6'7" and then going to a Detroit team that had plenty of strong personalities that only needed him to rebound and play defense.  

 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, PGFrog said:

She is not in the same vein.  She has athletic traits and some skills, but not the grit. 

Dennis was what he was because of his pathway from high school to working at DFW handling luggage to a shitty directional school in Oklahoma after he grew to 6'7" and then going to a Detroit team that had plenty of strong personalities that only needed him to rebound and play defense.  

 

Guys you're being too literal.

What we mean is she can be a good defender, and good rebounder, and that will help her team.  I clearly said she may not be the force Rodman was but she CAN be a productive role play on a team if she figures out she's not a star.

I don't have hope she'll ever figure that out.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Drew said:

Guys you're being too literal.

What we mean is she can be a good defender, and good rebounder, and that will help her team.  I clearly said she may not be the force Rodman was but she CAN be a productive role play on a team if she figures out she's not a star.

I don't have hope she'll ever figure that out.

I agree with you but @PGFrog is right in that Rodman was a very high-character player and badass in a way that Resse probably never will be. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I agree with you but @PGFrog is right in that Rodman was a very high-character player and badass in a way that Resse probably never will be. 

Oh I haven't disagreed, and was clear about she won't be exactly what Rodman was.

But that "role" she could do.

Posted
5 hours ago, Drew said:

Guys you're being too literal.

What we mean is she can be a good defender, and good rebounder, and that will help her team.  I clearly said she may not be the force Rodman was but she CAN be a productive role play on a team if she figures out she's not a star.

I don't have hope she'll ever figure that out.

She would have to take a good, hard look at herself. Judging by her actions, I dont think she capable of that. 

Posted
18 hours ago, Deej said:

She would have to take a good, hard look at herself. Judging by her actions, I dont think she capable of that. 

I do not disagree...

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On 5/28/2025 at 11:54 AM, Drew said:

Guys you're being too literal.

What we mean is she can be a good defender, and good rebounder, and that will help her team.  I clearly said she may not be the force Rodman was but she CAN be a productive role play on a team if she figures out she's not a star.

I don't have hope she'll ever figure that out.

She has the abilities of a role player and the overinflated ego of a Hollywood actor.  A third of her rebounds are from her own damn misses within feet of the rim.  It's laughable.  

 

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2.70M viewers: Saturday May 17, 2025 on ABC, Sky-Fever (the largest WNBA regular season audience since 2000). Including all WNBA telecasts, it ranks second among all games since 2000, trailing last year’s WNBA All-Star Game. Earlier in the day, Aces-Liberty averaged 1.3 million.

2.22M viewers: Saturday May 24, 2025 on CBS, Liberty-Fever (the network’s second-largest WNBA audience, behind a Sky-Fever game last year, which was 2.25M). New York’s win, which peaked with 3.24 million, delivered the eighth-largest WNBA audience since 2001 (sixth-largest if one excludes last year’s WNBA Draft and All-Star Game).

581,000 viewers: Tuesday May 19, 2025 on NBA TV, Dream-Fever (the network’s fourth-largest WNBA audience since becoming Nielsen rated in 2010). Only three games last season — all involving Clark — rank higher: September 11 against the Aces (678K), September 1 against the Wings (652K) and August 26 against the same Dream (617K). The previous day, Storm-Wings averaged a 0.20 339,000 — the most-watched WNBA game on NBA TV that did not involve Clark and the Fever, and higher than a competing MLB game on FS1 (Reds-Pirates: 0.16, 298K).

357,000 viewers (Caitlin's 1st game out with the quad injury): Wednesday May 28, 2025 on NBA TV, Fever-Mystics (ranking as the tenth-largest WNBA audience ever on the network; NBA TV became Nielsen rated in 2010).

 

Posted
4 hours ago, BabaYaga said:

She has the abilities of a role player and the overinflated ego of a Hollywood actor.  A third of her rebounds are from her own damn misses within feet of the rim.  It's laughable.  

 

What's amazing is how she's been parlayed into being a star and media personality despite probably not being a top - idk - 40? 50? player in the league. 

I mean it's kind of impressive. I have to give some credit. 

Posted
1 minute ago, ztejas said:

What's amazing is how she's been parlayed into being a star and media personality despite probably not being a top - idk - 40? 50? player in the league. 

I mean it's kind of impressive. I have to give some credit. 

Like I said she ain’t no dummy.   Pretty savvy moves by her

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2 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Like I said she ain’t no dummy.   Pretty savvy moves by her

No I think she's dumb as fuck but she has willingly sexualized herself and has an army of race-baiters around her and that together has effectively distracted from her lack of basketball skill. 

Which I guess sucks because it detracts from the popularity of legit badass players like A'Ja, Collier and Thomas. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Derka said:

 

The point being made here is absolutely valid, but the source, well, there is a 100 percent chance Woods has never seen Clark play ball and is posting only for the maga culture war garbage. I’m also 100 percent sure if you put Clark next to Sue Bird and Taurasi that he would not know who she is out of the three.

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Posted
4 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

And her rebounds are up.  Direct correlation.  What a clown.

My issue with her game, specifically the offensive end, is this. The first time any of us played organized basketball we learned how to dribble, how to perform a chest and bounce pass and then we learned how to convert lay-ups. You don’t have to make 100 percent of them because you will often be contested in the half-court, but Sweet Baby Jesus it looks at times like there is a force field around 3 feet and in. How she cannot routinely make easy layups and instead turns them into a rebound fest that even Rodman would find excessive is incredible to watch. A coach worth their salt would bench her until she figures out how to finish in the paint. So many of those rebounds are completely worthless stat padding. 

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1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Bueckers is in concussion protocol per espn, but espn declined to mention how she was injured in the report I read.  Played Chicago. 

Looks like it happened after she hit her head on the floor near the free throw line. Saw a short clip of her teammates helping her up, but no video of how it happened.

Posted
9 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

The point being made here is absolutely valid, but the source, well, there is a 100 percent chance Woods has never seen Clark play ball and is posting only for the maga culture war garbage. I’m also 100 percent sure if you put Clark next to Sue Bird and Taurasi that he would not know who she is out of the three.

age alone, if he knows she's just a year and a half out of Iowa...

But yeah, i get it.  You put 4 pictures of soccer or F1 drivers on a board and tell me to match their names, I have no shot.  I would probably miss the same on PGA.

Posted
13 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

The point being made here is absolutely valid, but the source, well, there is a 100 percent chance Woods has never seen Clark play ball and is posting only for the maga culture war garbage. I’m also 100 percent sure if you put Clark next to Sue Bird and Taurasi that he would not know who she is out of the three.

Would it make it any less accurate?

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The league absolutely needs to step in and protect Clark more. They can’t afford for her to have a career-ending injury and that’s where this is going. 
 

One thing that’s unremarked upon but that I have observed: even the lower-intensity coaches of women’s sports (whether men or women) have all the stoicism and sportsmanship of Bobby Knight. There’s a lot going on I think, including the desire to be taken seriously and the feeling of disrespect,  but it is a pretty true observation.  
 

In boys and men’s sports the default is usually “knock his dick in the dirt till the whistle then help him up” and that is absolutely not how the women’s games are approached. Lack of dicks notwithstanding. 

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Posted (edited)

Caitlin Clark is young. She should go to Europe for a couple of years. She can grow her game there, draw huge crowds and ratings (her American fans can still follow and watch) and let the WNBA think about things, while Reese et.al. grow their league. 
 
(word getting out that she was thinking of this might focus their thinking a little)

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Posted
1 hour ago, statsman said:

Caitlin Clark is young. She should go to Europe for a couple of years. She can grow her game there, draw huge crowds and ratings (her American fans can still follow and watch) and let the WNBA think about things, while Reese et.al. grow their league. 
 
(word getting out that she was thinking of this might focus their thinking a little)

The charges of running from competition would be skrong. Even better would be to leverage a bold sponsor and creative marketing team to lure a few other all-stars level players with her to the same team and pitch it as the “real world champion.” 
 

The quote from Woods is kinda true, but what’s even more true: if you ended Gretzky’s night, then Marty McSorely might end your season or career. Maybe the Fever should hire someone to concuss the next person who gives her a hard foul with a hockey stick. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, PGFrog said:

Would it make it any less accurate?

You don’t give attention to a bigot, especially one like Woods who is interjecting himself solely because he’s part of the maga cult. I said that the words were an accurate reflection of the situation, but the source is an awful human being. When Derka shares his thoughts on the sport I read them because he actually wants this league to succeed and because he knows basketball. James Woods is neither of those things.

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18 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

You don’t give attention to a bigot, especially one like Woods who is interjecting himself solely because he’s part of the maga cult. I said that the words were an accurate reflection of the situation, but the source is an awful human being. When Derka shares his thoughts on the sport I read them because he actually wants this league to succeed and because he knows basketball. James Woods is neither of those things.

Yet you have now given him more attention by writing about him twice and suspect you might not be able to just let it lie.

The comment is accurate and many of the players have shown they really don't understand that the very league only has existed this long because the NBA has been willing to subsidize it and any player in the WNBA who wants to bitch about the level of salary they are paid or means of travel better be damn glad they aren't having to exist off the revenue the league generates on its own.  

Hence why they don't have to like Clark, but they damn well better realize her importance, but when you have a league made up of players who have a skewed perception of their value is it any surprise. 

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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, PGFrog said:

Yet you have now given him more attention by writing about him twice and suspect you might not be able to just let it lie.

 

Am I replying to him on his account? No I am not. No one should “let it lie” when the source is someone like Woods. Not now, not ever. I am replying on this site about him. You condemn these morons each time they crawl out from under their rock and find sources not using this as part of a maga culture war. Clark is no more than that to those morons. I will gladly agree with that criticism from someone that isn’t a bigot. If the leader of the KKK had posted that same thing on X should I use them? Of course not. It’s not hard to figure this out.

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Posted
2 hours ago, statsman said:

Caitlin Clark is young. She should go to Europe for a couple of years. She can grow her game there, draw huge crowds and ratings (her American fans can still follow and watch) and let the WNBA think about things, while Reese et.al. grow their league. 
 
(word getting out that she was thinking of this might focus their thinking a little)

I think it’s an interesting thought, but I think where Clark’s impact will reverberate with her competitors is when she wins the WNBA title. Once that happens I think the dislike from players in the WNBA will subside. The talent coming through plays more her style. At least the stars coming up do. The league really needs Watkins to come back fully healthy. Right now she is the one I would put money on to be Clark’s biggest competition. Her or Bueckers who is doing really well so far this season, concussion notwithstanding.

Posted
1 hour ago, UpperWestside said:

Am I replying to him on his account? No I am not. No one should “let it lie” when the source is someone like Woods. Not now, not ever. I am replying on this site about him. You condemn these morons each time they crawl out from under their rock and find sources not using this as part of a maga culture war. Clark is no more than that to those morons. I will gladly agree with that criticism from someone that isn’t a bigot. If the leader of the KKK had posted that same thing on X should I use them? Of course not. It’s not hard to figure this out.

You sound real stable. 

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Posted (edited)

It's funny how many people post on this thread that clearly don't like the WNBA, don't care about the WNBA, and aren't even remotely interested in the WNBA. The only reason yall are here is because your culture war social media feed told you that Caitlin Clark(the highest paid, most popular player by far) is somehow a victim. Go back to not caring. Nobody will miss you.

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Posted
1 hour ago, PGFrog said:

Yet you have now given him more attention by writing about him twice and suspect you might not be able to just let it lie.

The exact same thing could be said about people being outraged that Reese/Swoopes said or did something controversial. All you do is bring them the attention that they so desperately seek.

Posted
9 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

It's funny how many people post on this thread that clearly don't like the WNBA, don't care about the WNBA, and aren't even remotely interested in the WNBA. The only reason yall are here is because your culture war social media feed told you that Caitlin Clark(the highest paid, most popular player by far) is somehow a victim. Go back to not caring. Nobody will miss you.

Pam, this is the Caitlin Clark thread.  To steal a line from a few pages ago, it does t take inspector clouseau levels of detective work to see that 99% of surly don’t care about the wnba.  That probably mirrors how the rest of the world feels. 

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Posted (edited)
36 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

 The only reason yall are here is because your culture war social media feed told you that Caitlin Clark(the highest paid, most popular player by far) is somehow a victim.

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“pay attention to us! treat us the same as men!”

*gets treated the same as men*

”leave us alone, who needs you?!?”

lol ok 

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Posted
2 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

Am I replying to him on his account? No I am not. No one should “let it lie” when the source is someone like Woods. Not now, not ever. I am replying on this site about him. You condemn these morons each time they crawl out from under their rock and find sources not using this as part of a maga culture war. Clark is no more than that to those morons. I will gladly agree with that criticism from someone that isn’t a bigot. If the leader of the KKK had posted that same thing on X should I use them? Of course not. It’s not hard to figure this out.

There are at least three other places for CR discussion- CR, and the two DT sections. Is that not enough?

Posted
6 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The league absolutely needs to step in and protect Clark more. They can’t afford for her to have a career-ending injury and that’s where this is going.

Well, they don't want to have her suceed enough to lose that sweet NBA money. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

It's funny how many people post on this thread that clearly don't like the WNBA, don't care about the WNBA, and aren't even remotely interested in the WNBA. The only reason yall are here is because your culture war social media feed told you that Caitlin Clark(the highest paid, most popular player by far) is somehow a victim. Go back to not caring. Nobody will miss you.

Someone should tell him that if people "go back to not caring about the WNBA devoid of Caitlin Clark" the WNBA would take about 10 steps backwards and lose all the gains. 

Posted
22 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

My issue with her game, specifically the offensive end, is this. The first time any of us played organized basketball we learned how to dribble, how to perform a chest and bounce pass and then we learned how to convert lay-ups. You don’t have to make 100 percent of them because you will often be contested in the half-court, but Sweet Baby Jesus it looks at times like there is a force field around 3 feet and in. How she cannot routinely make easy layups and instead turns them into a rebound fest that even Rodman would find excessive is incredible to watch. A coach worth their salt would bench her until she figures out how to finish in the paint. So many of those rebounds are completely worthless stat padding. 

She’s the quintessential 6’3 white guy playing center in 2a/3a basketball 

Posted
8 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The league absolutely needs to step in and protect Clark more. They can’t afford for her to have a career-ending injury and that’s where this is going. 
 

One thing that’s unremarked upon but that I have observed: even the lower-intensity coaches of women’s sports (whether men or women) have all the stoicism and sportsmanship of Bobby Knight. There’s a lot going on I think, including the desire to be taken seriously and the feeling of disrespect,  but it is a pretty true observation.  
 

In boys and men’s sports the default is usually “knock his dick in the dirt till the whistle then help him up” and that is absolutely not how the women’s games are approached. Lack of dicks notwithstanding. 

Saw an interesting quote from one of the top players in the nba and she made a great point that in the NBA the stars are protected more and have fouls called more but in the W the stars don’t get the calls like nba players and aren’t as protected 

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seimone augustus legitimately had more basketball skill at 15 years old than angel reese will ever have in her life. why they continue to make her the essential second face of women’s basketball is baffling to me.

Posted
7 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The charges of running from competition would be skrong. Even better would be to leverage a bold sponsor and creative marketing team to lure a few other all-stars level players with her to the same team and pitch it as the “real world champion.” 
 

The quote from Woods is kinda true, but what’s even more true: if you ended Gretzky’s night, then Marty McSorely might end your season or career. Maybe the Fever should hire someone to concuss the next person who gives her a hard foul with a hockey stick. 

Story I heard about a journeyman NHL player that played against Gretzky.  Fight breaks out and when that happens everyone just grabs the closest opposing player to keep them out of it.  He grabs Gretzky who looks at him and says "get your hands off of me you fucking plumber."

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