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Posted (edited)
13 hours ago, Codaxx said:

He needs to learn to protect himself. Got hurt on a first down run. No need to take that hit 

I was at the game and haven’t dived in to any highlights but in live action it look late and intentional forearm to the back of the head. Anything mentioned about that? Of course I was doing my best Cooter Brown impersonation by then…

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14 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

No, not at all. Leading with shoulder, forearm, etc is still targeting.

Only on a defenseless player.  A ball carrier running and diving forward isn’t defenseless.  The only targeting on a non-defenseless player is if struck with the crown of the helmet.  
 

Arch was not targeted on that play.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, markstanco said:

I have a feeling this argument over targeting wont stop today.  

Was Matthew Golden targeted this weekend?

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Posted
11 minutes ago, Mantis Toboggan, MD said:

Only on a defenseless player.  A ball carrier running and diving forward isn’t defenseless.  The only targeting on a non-defenseless player is if struck with the crown of the helmet.  
 

Arch was not targeted on that play.

I didnt even realize there was a defenseless vs runner debate raging. Just caught up.

Interesting distinction in the quoted rules. I feel like we are missing something, because I find it hard to believe a defender can launch at a runner and knock their ass out with a forearm shiver and not draw a flag.

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Just now, CurlyDumps said:

I find it hard to believe a defender can launch at a runner and knock their ass out with a forearm shiver and not draw a flag.

Anthony Hill literally did that a few games back and no flag was thrown.

Posted
11 hours ago, NBHorn7 said:

Dizzy Dean said slud all the time when he announced baseball.

My mom grew up in a Clayton MO duplex, the other side of which was occupied by the owner (Dizzy Dean).

Posted
14 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

Y’all realy believe the Mannings are telling Sark what to do and not do? Okeedokee. 

You want to know who the real puppet master is pulling all the strings?

Warby fucking Parker, that’s who!

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Posted
12 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Explain.  1st and 10, and he's gained 8-9.  Is that extra yard worth losing your QB? 

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The QB is down as soon as he initiates the slide.  So he would have been marked down around the 18 yard line. He was balling and trying to get the first down and not leave it to our short yardage offense.

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3 minutes ago, TxEx84 said:

The QB is down as soon as he initiates the slide.  So he would have been marked down around the 18 yard line. He was balling and trying to get the first down and not leave it to our short yardage offense.

When you dive forward for additional yardage, it's not considered a "slide". Consequently, Arch wasn't a "defenseless player" by rule. The officials could've called the hit "unnecessary roughness", but targeting isn't appropriate for this play.

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1 minute ago, DFW Horn said:

The officials could've called the hit "unnecessary roughness"

Arch may look like a goofy fucker, but Pat Mahomes he is not.  He ain't getting that call. 

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Reference pages FR-97 and FR-98 of the linked 2025 NCAA Football Rule Book for a complete definition of Targeting. To search a PDF, open the file and use the "Find" command by pressing Ctrl+F (Windows) or Command+F (Mac). Type your search term into the box that appears and use the "Next" and "Previous" buttons to navigate the results.

It's too long for me to post it here. tl/dr for most

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13 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Well, the play where he got his bell rung he dove head first, so maybe they need to talk to Arch about that and not Sark.  He does seem to slide more often than he did before, but on that play he put his head out there for the double whammy.

He dove forward not down, if he had dove down (think headfirst slide into second) it would have been different. 

No clue what this dude is saying but the video is what I was after 

 

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49 minutes ago, TejasPedro said:

You want to know who the real puppet master is pulling all the strings?

Warby fucking Parker, that’s who!

Warby Parker

Parker Livingstone

Coincidence?  He's their inside man.

 

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