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2 hours ago, deech said:

He absolutely destroys our Offensive Line for half of it.  Calls out Baker and Stroh personally.  Then asks why we spend our unlimited recruiting budget on big and slow in the SEC?

He absolutely destroys our offense philosophy and offense lineman recruiting.  I think he is spot on.  Also interesting that he said Texas’ staff is the least open with him in the SEC which isn’t surprising.  

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3 hours ago, Gordon Shumway said:

That last play is a TE screen.  There werent any reads and if Campbell makes his block its a big play.  They were never going to the RB in the flat. 

yep.  but I will say there is something wrong.  The TE runs past his blockers, if he sits behind his blockers Campbell's guy can't make the play.  Campbell is probably supposed to get upfield and maybe assumes the LB shouldn't be able to get to the TE.

it also could be that Arch is late with the throw. 

The TE was beyond the LOS so we probably get called for lineman downfield if it breaks big.

Posted
2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

People calling for Caldwell have lost their goddamn minds. It is so incomprehensibly stupid and short sighted. Take a deep breath. 

 

 

If they don’t get the offensive line sorted out, it’s going to happen whether anybody wants it to or not

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

If they don’t get the offensive line sorted out, it’s going to happen whether anybody wants it to or not

Yeah, because Arch is going to have his liver fractured.

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, because Arch is going to have his liver fractured.

We were lucky he didn’t break his collar bone or suffer a shoulder injury on the play where he got hit from behind while twisting to throw to his left. He’s certainly tough 

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At this point it looks like Arch might portal out after the season if he hopes to salvage a potential NFL career. Behind a competent OL, he could flourish someplace like Ole Miss or Tennessee vs being another 7th rounder like Ewers.

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11 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

At this point it looks like Arch might portal out after the season if he hopes to salvage a potential NFL career. Behind a competent OL, he could flourish someplace like Ole Miss or Tennessee vs being another 7th rounder like Ewers.

WTF?  No.  Classic take by you.

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1 hour ago, Josef Pwag said:

He wasn't the biggest issue in the UF game. He is still a massive issue. The end of the game shows the depth of his mental collapse. Multiple times, when we were in a hail-mary situation, he had plenty of time to heave a jump ball to the endzone. He couldn't psychologically pull the trigger. He didn't show balls or courage or anything like that. He showed he is a broken young man. It is really cruel that we will put an obviously unwell person in the mix against OU.

Hi.

You're fucking retarded.

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Posted
3 hours ago, BlackCat said:

Arch had an ugly game and is struggling with fairly simple 1st reads. When I watch the film (obv dont have access to the all 22) its clear to me he's not ready to run the offense at a high level. He's just missing too much. However, he really is running for his life. Im now convinced part of the reason he's having the yips and is in his head is because he knows his o line is a complete disaster. Thats a tough realization when you know that means you're capable of getting sacked every single play, because his "first read" becomes pocket awareness and not where to go with the ball. 

He showed some real moxie and playmaking ability against Florida. The raw tools are there. I think his development has been stunted by this horrendous o line, and I think he was significantly overhyped and over ranked. He was a high four star that played against bad competition and was going to need time. But the film speaks for itself:

1- He has no time

2- Hes struggling big time with 1st read coverages

#2 doesnt get fixed until #1 does. He's not super human. 

In the mean time Sark has to use everything at his disposal to relieve the pressure for him, and hes not doing that schematically. He better start or we are going to lose more than we win. 

It's definitely hard to read the field when you're having to play human frogger in the backfield from the second the ball is snapped. Can't look two places at once. I guarantee Lagway wouldn't have done so well if he got even half as much pressure as Arch did.

As for the slow reads, we probably should've expected that more than we did given his inexperience vs high-level opponents. That's pretty common for first-time starters but hype-train rolled too far. Will he fix it? Who knows. But there's a good chance that improves over time.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Derka said:

i just spent three years being told that our last qb, a guy who couldn’t throw downfield, couldn’t scramble, couldn’t run, wasn’t accurate, was afraid to get hit, was seeing ghosts every play, was constantly turtling under zero pressure, and who was objectively worse than 80% - 90% of his offensive teammates.

And yet that talentless, immobile quarterback put up 5 TDs on Florida. Meanwhile in Arch's best game, vs MSU, it was 14-6 with 16 seconds left to go in the 3rd quarter. This is the same MSU that Toledo put up 41, and Pig put up 58. They didn't win a single game in conference, and only two games last season. 

 

4 hours ago, Derka said:

we tear down the guy who’s been humble and done everything right and is just now getting his feet wet as the team’s starter.

This is rich coming from you. Lol. Anyone remember this Derka posted below? I do. Check the date. November 12, 2022. 

 

On 11/12/2022 at 10:59 PM, shadow_operative said:

i'm not sure he's made a single throw all season that's been mechanically correct. his footwork is garbage. everything is thrown off balance/off his back foot. it's like he's not getting any coaching. just out there slinging the ball around off his back foot and missing open guys/over throwing open guys with regularity. 

beyond this, tonight he seemed mentally weak. he looked scared and hurt. we were down two fucking touchdowns and the kid looked like his dog had just died and we were down by 70. he looked depressed, like he didn't want to be out there, when we 100% were still in contention to win. the guy needs to humble himself and realize that he doesn't actually know shit about playing QB at a high level. get rid of the stupid ass goofy haircut and beard, start taking yourself seriously, and start studying and practicing like you're a walk on trying to earn a scholarship. the kid has so, so far to go before he's ready to be a major d-1 qb.

 

   Three and a half months in, Derka was dragging his nuts across this dude's face about not only how he played football, but the socioeconomic level this kid was born into. Meanwhile, don't suggest Arch should be further along than he is after getting 2nd string reps for two and a half years. His hypocrisy knows no bounds. 

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Sark tried to fill in the gaps with the portal. He brought in a punter, a place kicker, a tightend and a backup QB with game experience - in case Arch missed a couple of games. He tried to cover all his bases, and get this team to the NC game. There was no way for Sark to know Manning was a head case and would wilt under the pressure like a little girl. I think the whole team would be playing better, incuding the OL, if they had not lost confidence in their QB.

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2 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

Sark tried to fill in the gaps with the portal. He brought in a punter, a place kicker, a tightend and a backup QB with game experience - in case Arch missed a couple of games. He tried to cover all his bases, and get this team to the NC game. There was no way for Sark to know Manning was a head case and would wilt under the pressure like a little girl. I think the whole team would be playing better, incuding the OL, if they had not lost confidence in their QB.

Then explain the D-line....

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4 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Then explain the D-line....

They were dominant in the Ohio State game. That's an elite defense. They have given up. The team looks like it did when they had Hudson Card or Swoops behind center, they know there is no way to win games if your QB sucks.

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1 minute ago, Farmer Vincent said:

They were dominant in the Ohio State game. That's an elite defense. They have given up. The team looks like it did when they had Hudson Card or Swoops behind center, they know there is no way to win games if your QB sucks.

They gave up on the first series of the game, after a bye week and a inspiring performance against a warm-up team?  No.  They were exposed.  

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Posted
3 hours ago, Codaxx said:

Funny thing is people who watched on TV and listened to the announcer are pissing themselves. If you watched live or at a bar without the sound, you have a completely different view. You saw the Film Guy send out tweets hammering Arch during hte game, then he watched the All-22, and sent out a mea culpa to Arch. Murray, who previously hammered Arch, had a similar take in this game. Arch made some errors, nobody said he was great, but the OL and game plan pretty much killed this offense. 

Lol I watched w no sound.  Had OU game sound and I came away with ‘holy shit, that o line is BAD.’  Makes sense to me now if announcers were piling on.  

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10 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

They were dominant in the Ohio State game. That's an elite defense. They have given up. The team looks like it did when they had Hudson Card or Swoops behind center, they know there is no way to win games if your QB sucks.

They have not given up. They came out and got pushed around. They actually played better in the 2nd half. I think this was more likely a DL that has not seen an OL fire out at them in over a month with a 230 pound NFL RB behind them. Florida's interior OL is probably the best Texas DL has faced this year. 

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28 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

Sark tried to fill in the gaps with the portal. He brought in a punter, a place kicker, a tightend and a backup QB with game experience - in case Arch missed a couple of games. He tried to cover all his bases, and get this team to the NC game. There was no way for Sark to know Manning was a head case and would wilt under the pressure like a little girl. I think the whole team would be playing better, incuding the OL, if they had not lost confidence in their QB.

The fuck are you talking about? Sark went after four defensive lineman and ZERO offensive linemen. 

Holy shit talk about the tail wagging the dog.

You think the OL would be playing better if they hadn’t lost confidence in their QB?

You and Sark are made for each other.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

They have not given up. They came out and got pushed around. They actually played better in the 2nd half. I think this was more likely a DL that has not seen an OL fire out at them in over a month with a 230 pound NFL RB behind them. Florida's interior OL is probably the best Texas DL has faced this year. 

I think you want to win an argument, so I conceed, you win. So anyway, even if they just suck they could have played like men and knocked some guys on their asses. Just watch what OU does to them on Saturday, if the Horns come out flat again they will be humiliated.

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1 minute ago, Ghost of Shag said:

The fuck are you talking about? Sark went after four defensive lineman and ZERO offensive linemen. 

Holy shit talk about the tail wagging the dog.

You think the OL would be playing better if they hadn’t lost confidence in their QB?

You and Sark are made for each other.

Hey Fucktard, I was wondering why Sark didn't seem concerned about losing four top linemen, and I am still wondering. I also was confused as to why he didn't bring in a couple of blazing WR from the portal as he had been doing the last couple of years. He should have. I just think the unpresidented bust that is our starting QB overshadows it all, he is still not getting the heat he deserves. He may be a good kid but he needs to man up, he is letting his team down.

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7 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

The fuck are you talking about? Sark went after four defensive lineman and ZERO offensive linemen. 

 

Starting caliber OL are pretty rare/nonexistent in the portal, to be fair. Especially when it looks like we need 4.

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7 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

I think you want to win an argument, so I conceed, you win. So anyway, even if they just suck they could have played like men and knocked some guys on their asses. Just watch what OU does to them on Saturday, if the Horns come out flat again they will be humiliated.

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Posted
33 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

They were dominant in the Ohio State game. That's an elite defense. They have given up. 

lolwut?  No.  They just aren't that good.  We saw PK replace NFL picks with two new NFL picks and thought it would just happen again.  It didn't.

I'm not saying 23 draft picks is what's keeping this team from being elite, it hasn't slowed down tOSU, but it has CLEARLY had an impact that was unexpected.  We just aren't as talented as we were last year.  That's the story.

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5 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

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Hating on Arch, whether it’s deserved or not, gets all the engagement on twitter. He needs to be benched because he didn’t go 70 yards in 50 seconds with no timeouts vs a good defense! 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, SarksJuggs said:

Hating on Arch, whether it’s deserved or not, gets all the engagement on twitter. He needs to be benched because he didn’t go 70 yards in 50 seconds with no timeouts vs a good defense! 

This.  Posting evidence that people have retarded takes on Twitter isn't much of hot sports opinion.

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Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

The fuck are you talking about? Sark went after four defensive lineman and ZERO offensive linemen. 

Holy shit talk about the tail wagging the dog.

You think the OL would be playing better if they hadn’t lost confidence in their QB?

You and Sark are made for each other.

Im going to assume that Sark did that based on what his coaches told him.  PK told him we didn't have ready replacements for our losses, Flood told him we did.  PK had certainly earned Sark's trust by now, and deservedly so.  Flood seems to have been fully exposed, although there were incidents and accidents, hints and allegations (and a roly poly little bat-faced girl) that trust was undeserved before we got to this point.

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Posted
47 minutes ago, Farmer Vincent said:

There was no way for Sark to know Manning was a head case and would wilt under the pressure like a little girl. I think the whole team would be playing better, incuding the OL, if they had not lost confidence in their QB.

Manning getting better…. But you have this backwards. This offensive line may be the worst line in a power 5 football conference.

 

Ewers made his line look worse than they were last year with all the self sacking. Manning is actually making his line look better than the shit show they are with the scrambling.

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11 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Starting caliber OL are pretty rare/nonexistent in the portal, to be fair. Especially when it looks like we need 4.

Oregon had no issues addressing their OL needs in the portal during the offseason. Flood just thought he was too good to turn to the portal to fill the holes he created with his shitty recruiting and evals. 

Posted
9 minutes ago, SarksJuggs said:

Hating on Arch, whether it’s deserved or not, gets all the engagement on twitter. He needs to be benched because he didn’t go 70 yards in 50 seconds with no timeouts vs a good defense! 

 

6 minutes ago, Skipper said:

This.  Posting evidence that people have retarded takes on Twitter isn't much of hot sports opinion.

It's satire and a joke.  Nobody is immune to this.  I'm an Arch advocate

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Posted
3 hours ago, B00M said:

Truly unbelievable that we don’t have an elite RB or an elite WR and our OL is hot fucking garbage. 

Talent evaluation is a fucking problem clearly.  They saw this team this off season and were giddy af about a chance at a championship.  Turns out Herman and co were better talent evaluator, just shit at developing.

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13 minutes ago, TXRed said:

Oregon had no issues addressing their OL needs in the portal during the offseason. Flood just thought he was too good to turn to the portal to fill the holes he created with his shitty recruiting and evals. 

Yea I think we kicked the tires on Pregnon but decided we were too poor or needed to pay Ffrench more to sit on the bench or some shit

Posted
1 hour ago, Farmer Vincent said:

Sark tried to fill in the gaps with the portal. He brought in a punter, a place kicker, a tightend and a backup QB with game experience - in case Arch missed a couple of games. He tried to cover all his bases, and get this team to the NC game. There was no way for Sark to know Manning was a head case and would wilt under the pressure like a little girl. I think the whole team would be playing better, incuding the OL, if they had not lost confidence in their QB.

So OL is a sieve and now they have lost confidence in their QB because he does run away from free incoming pressure 100% of the time.

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1 hour ago, Farmer Vincent said:

Sark tried to fill in the gaps with the portal. He brought in a punter, a place kicker, a tightend and a backup QB with game experience - in case Arch missed a couple of games. He tried to cover all his bases, and get this team to the NC game. There was no way for Sark to know Manning was a head case and would wilt under the pressure like a little girl. I think the whole team would be playing better, incuding the OL, if they had not lost confidence in their QB.

Stick to farming, Einstein.

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