Dallas Cowboys Metathread - Oh No We Suck Again!

[Hermanator 6863]

At least we still own the Giants since 2016

[animaltobacco11 107]

How did Mazi look?

[Hermanator 6863]

He was fine after the first series. Couple of tackles, 1 for loss, wasn't getting run on

[Vic Mackey 46856]

I see ya Dak

 

[Hermanator 6863]

Nice little stat here. Since the beginning of last season there are 3 games where Dak didn't have a turnover. Lions, Vikings, and last night. All 3 teams with winning records in 2022.  In those games the Cowboys are 3-0 with a combined point differential of 104-9. 

With this defense the most important thing is no turnovers. Dak doesn't need to be forcing shit like under Moore. He just needs to be early Seattle Russell Wilson for this team to have a shot in the playoffs. Make the play that's there, don't turn it over, scramble for yards when necessary. 

Edited September 11, 2023 by Hermanator

[Vic Mackey 46856]

21 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Nice little stat here. Since the beginning of last season there are 3 games where Dak didn't have a turnover. Lions, Vikings, and last night. All 3 teams with winning records in 2022.  In those games the Cowboys are 3-0 with a combined point differential of 104-9. 

With this defense the most important thing is no turnovers. Dak doesn't need to be forcing shit like under Moore. He just needs to be early Seattle Russell Wilson for this team to have a shot in the playoffs. Make the play that's there, don't turn it over, scramble for yards when necessary. 

This was one of those weird ass games. A game kind of like the Vikings last year where we kicked their ass from start to finish. One where the Giants will just toss the tape and move on. I knew we would win because Daniel Jones is a fucking dork and we own the Giants for years now. But no one saw that kind of domination.

Those conditions were not good for an offense. Aikman spoke on it before how he hated rainy games. Both offenses looked sloppy, obviously theirs way worse. But ours was nothing to really write home about. 2 easy dropped TDs could have had 14pts instead of the 6 we settled for. Obviously it didn't matter in the end but I hope the drops were just a sign of the weather. This offense depends on solid tight end play to keep the ball moving and that area left a lot to be desired yesterday. Run game never really got going. 

This might be the only game all year with weather like that. Defense was at a huge advantage. I am curious how they look in good conditions against an actual good QB. Also curious how this offense plays in good conditions. It's also hard to judge the offense because they knew they could coast to a win and not be aggressive at all. The whole 2nd half was almost on auto pilot.  No dumb turnovers to give the Giants life. No dumb penalties to keep drives alive. I'll take it.

[conVINCEd 21468]

The defense seems like it fucks.  I don’t want to turn this into a Dak conversation, but there have been worse QBs  win the whole fucking thing with an elite defense.

[Elmer_Fudd 22033]

So, I'm guessing no Rodgers next week?

[Post Oak 20174]

"got picked off like bell peppers on a shish kabob"

"Ask your momma. She knows how to deal with penetration"

 

[Vic Mackey 46856]

Hey Jets, we have Trey Lance as our 3rd string. Care to make a trade? 

[tx 3 putt 75959]

7 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

I see ya Dak

 

La Toxica !!!!!

[tx 3 putt 75959]

There’s only one team that can be called America’s Team !!!!!!

Dallas F’n Cowboys 

 

play hard and let’s get a legit playoff run 

 

Puro Pinche Cowboys !!!!!!!!

Edited September 12, 2023 by tx 3 putt

[Vic Mackey 46856]

 

['stache 21729]

Lots of sad suburban milfs in north Texas, Wilson might have to sit out with a sore groin. 

[babysdaddy 2710]

1 hour ago, Vic Mackey said:

 

The line can't be big enough.  1 bazillion dollars on the boys.  

[Vic Mackey 46856]

1 hour ago, 'stache said:

Lots of sad suburban milfs in north Texas, Wilson might have to sit out with a sore groin. 

Does @futureman mancrush Mike White still play for the Jets?

[kevwun 15572]

No, they got rid of him when they signed Rodgers.

Edited September 12, 2023 by kevwun

[Hermanator 6863]

I wouldn't touch it but if I had to I'd bet the Jets +9.5. I still don't trust Dak and the Jets have a very solid defense. 

[Hammerin Hank 1222]

The Cowboys defense might score enough to cover 9.5 without the offense doing anything. 

[Pig Bellmont 8664]

40-0 was fools gold. The Cowboys aren’t as good as they looked and also the Giants won’t be as shitty as they looked. The Jets have maybe the best defense in the NFL, so I don’t feel great about the 9.5 spread, even with Zac Wilson running for his life  

 

[kevwun 15572]

If the Jets can't run the ball, they are pretty much fucked.  On that last touchdown in regulation, Garret Wilson first had to play cornerback to keep the db from intercepting it.  Zac isn't leading multiple scoring drives a game when he has to throw the ball regularly.

Edited September 12, 2023 by kevwun

[Vic Mackey 46856]

30 minutes ago, kevwun said:

If the Jets can't run the ball, they are pretty much fucked.  On that last touchdown in regulation, Garret Wilson first had to play cornerback to keep the db from intercepting it.  Zac isn't leading multiple scoring drives a game when he has to throw the ball regularly.

Jets also needed to force 4 turnovers to even force OT. They needed their special teams win the game for them. For as much as you say we can't expect Dallas defense to do what they did against the Giants, are we really expecting the Jets to force 4 turnovers and return a punt for a TD? And even after all that, Bills had the ball with a chance to win. That tells you how bad the Jets offense under Wilson was. And it was bad last year, hence why they sold all out to win in the next 2 seasons with signing Roders when they just drafted Wilson first round last year. They know they have no shot with him.

And for our offense, this game will be in perfect conditions indoors. Not outside in pouring down rain. We were on cruise control the entire 2nd half and packed it in and showed nothing for tape purposes for the Jets DC. We also dropped 2 easy TDs that make that score closer to 50-0.

Jets OL is there for the taking. If our defense is really legit like many say, well then this is a game you take over early and don't let Wilson and that offense breathe. 

[Vic Mackey 46856]

Wtf are these rankings?

 

I see the #14 and 15 teams lose 40-0 and 30-7 and are ahead of teams who actually won.

Jets are #4? Stop. The Chiefs are actually ahead of the Lions who beat them?

Edited September 12, 2023 by Vic Mackey

[kevwun 15572]

The Jets lost their starting qb for the year and moved up 2 spots.

[Vic Mackey 46856]

Just now, kevwun said:

The Jets lost their starting qb for the year and moved up 2 spots.

Giants lost 40-0 at home and steelers lost 30-7 at home and are 14 and 15. Pats came extremely close to beating the Super Bowl runner up and are way down at 22. lol

[Post Oak 20174]

It's clickbait.

[Scraps 13518]

WE DEM BOYZ

[futureman 22382]

9 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

It's clickbait.

fuck that, it’s BULLSHIT, and let me tell you why…

[Hermanator 6863]

Someone just started with a preconceived list based on whatever their personal feelings are and are adjusting it based on what happened a lot like the NCAA does with preseason rankings. 

If you just started from week 1 it would be Cowboys and Niners 1 and 2 and Steelers and Giants last 2

[Drew 2322]

3 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

40-0 was fools gold. The Cowboys aren’t as good as they looked and also the Giants won’t be as shitty as they looked. The Jets have maybe the best defense in the NFL, so I don’t feel great about the 9.5 spread, even with Zac Wilson running for his life  

 

I mean the cowboys are probably BETTER than they looked.  The offense was not in sync, and had quite a few drops for scores and to keep drives alive. They could have scored 54 easily.

[Vic Mackey 46856]

 

[kingkoopa6 8300]

Scoop him up. And are we liking this kicker ?

 

 

[Vic Mackey 46856]

Scoop him up. And are we liking this kicker ?
 
 

I'll chalk up that terrible miss on his first PAT to some nerves and the rain. And being on national tv. And it could have snowballed from there like Maher in the playoffs. But he made every other kick after and all his kickoffs went into the end zone. He's good for now. But we've seen how quickly they can take a dive.

[ATXbronco 4053]

On 9/11/2023 at 3:39 PM, Vic Mackey said:

I see ya Dak

 

The older I get, the less impressed I am with fake titties

[Irish Wrist Watch 1348]

9 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

Does @futureman mancrush Mike White still play for the Jets?

White has joined the landing team for the first manned mission to Mars scheduled for 2030

[futureman 22382]

5 hours ago, Drew said:

I mean the cowboys are probably BETTER than they looked.

[Post Oak 20174]

This was a really good article about game planning for the block.

 

 

 

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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. — The Dallas Cowboys’ first touchdown of the game against the New York Giants on Sunday night was actually scored hours before the game, about seven miles east of MetLife Stadium. During the team’s game day walk-through at EnVue Hotel, Cowboys special teams ace C.J. Goodwin spoke his wisdom to Juanyeh Thomas.

Thomas, the second-year safety who made his NFL debut against the Giants, lines up just inside of Goodwin on the field goal block unit. Goodwin is the end line player on the left side and Thomas starts out next to him. Goodwin, who has played nearly 100 games in the NFL, including 69 over the last five seasons in Dallas, noticed a tendency from the Giants’ field goal unit that was waiting to be exploited. But based on how the Cowboys line up, Goodwin couldn’t be the one to make the play; he could only facilitate.

“We play these guys every year, twice a year,” Goodwin said. “It’s hard to get it from the outside. Your timing has to be right and their timing has to be slow. But the inside guy, as long as I do my job outside, the inside guy, especially with (special teams coordinator John Fassel) teaching what to do, I knew that second step, jump, fourth step, jump, (Thomas) has an opportunity — better opportunity than I do to block it. He did exactly what we told him to do, man.

“I’m trying to draw the wing off to me. The inside guy (for the Giants) that’s supposed to be blocking him, if he doesn’t do a good job putting an arm out or Juanyeh can put his arm down, then that frees him up. Two steps, jump and then two steps, jump. It worked out perfectly.”

Meanwhile, cornerback Noah Igbinoghene’s job was clear: If Thomas gets the block, anticipate where the ball will go and be in position to scoop it up and score. At the outset, Igbinoghene is lined up at the end of the line on the far right side, opposite Goodwin and Thomas. Igbinoghene isn’t trying to speed rush off the edge and block the kick; instead, he slowly gets off the line of scrimmage and begins to set up shop in the backfield on his side of the field.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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“I saw the ball, I picked it up and started running,” Igbinoghene said. “While I was running, I actually couldn’t believe it was happening in that time. God is good. When you put yourself in the right situation and do what your coaches tell you to do, stuff like that happens.”

In a game that overflowed with standout plays from the Cowboys, it was Thomas’ block and Igbinoghene’s return that — considering the moment and result — was arguably the play of the game.

After the Giants got the ball to begin the game, they ran the ball right through the Cowboys’ defense and marched inside the Dallas 10-yard line. In fact, the first New York rush attempt that was finally stymied came on the Dallas 16 on the eighth play of the drive, when Thomas stuffed Saquon Barkley for no gain.

“He’s a great player,” Goodwin said of Thomas, who had a key pass breakup on the ensuing drive following the blocked kick. “You’re starting to see flashes now but when he’s going to put it together, he’s going to be a really, really big player in this league. He did it and it worked. It changed the game, really.”

As much as Goodwin tried to direct credit toward Thomas, the young safety wouldn’t have it.

“First of all, before I even talk, I want to give a shoutout,” Thomas said. “C.J. Goodwin, is the reason I got it. We were going through that in walk-through a couple of hours before the game and he told me, ‘It’s going to be open!’ He was just, teaching me, ‘once you jump, get over, blah blah blah.’ I listened to my vets and that’s how it happened. So, thank you to him for telling me that stuff.”

That play embodied several messages head coach Mike McCarthy and his staff preach to the players on a routine basis. On a micro level, it was an example of unselfish play and each player doing their job. Any player would love to be the hero and block the kick or score the touchdown — Goodwin joked how Igbinoghene scored on his first snap in Dallas while Goodwin has been waiting five years and counting — but that’s not the formula for consistent success.

On this play, Goodwin’s job was to speed rush wide off the left edge to bring the blocker out to him and create the best lane possible for Thomas. Goodwin did exactly that. Thomas’ job was pounce on that lane and be technically sound and efficient, which was also something Goodwin taught him precisely at the walk-through.

“Outside foot up, just because he’s right-handed,” Goodwin said. “Left foot is your power foot. Jump up, then right foot, left foot because you land on your right foot and jump again with your left. That’s really the only way to get through.”

After Thomas executed that to perfection, he turned to his athleticism and attacked the ball to block the kick. Once he did that part of his job, Thomas wasn’t compelled to chase the ball and try to recover it. That wasn’t part of his job.

“I saw Noah so I was just trying to block the next man,” Thomas said. “I’m proud of Noah, too. Noah has been through a lot. To come in and score his first touchdown, it’s huge.”

That next block was on Giants kicker Graham Gano, who was the final threat to Igbinoghene. Once Thomas took out Gano, it was a clear path to the end zone for Igbinoghene and a 6-0 Cowboys lead that turned into a 40-0 dismantling of the Giants.

GO DEEPER

Cowboys play like a championship defense with dominating 40-0 win over Giants

The two players were the story of roster cutdown day two weeks ago were the stars of the show: Thomas (undrafted) for making the 53-man for the first time despite lack of draft pedigree and Igbinoghene (30th overall in 2020) for being involved in a one-for-one trade just minutes before the deadline after being deemed a disappointment for his draft pedigree. Goodwin, whose sole purpose for being on the roster is his special teams prowess, served as the orchestrator.

At a macro level, the play delivered was the manifestation of one of the oldest cliches in the book. All three phases. Complementary football. Every coach says it but Sunday night was the proof of its value.

“I feel like it’s very important,” Igbinoghene said. “It doesn’t get talked about like offense and defense but that’s a part of the team. Like we made plays today, it can shift the entire game. You never really know what happens. It’s really the small things that really matter. Special teams plays an important role on the overall score of the game. As many people would like to say, it’s not just offense and defense, today happened. Special teams can make plays any single day. It happened today.”

The Cowboys have one of the most respected special teams coaches in the NFL in Fassel and a true leader for that phase of the way in Goodwin, who was the special teams captain Sunday after being elevated to the active roster. But just as importantly, the Cowboys have players like Thomas and Igbinoghene, whose primary positions come elsewhere but still take pride in their roles on the “other” phase.

“Special teams changed the game today, honestly,” Goodwin said. “The momentum changed.”

 

[Hermanator 6863]

That's a great picture, funny how nonchalant the kicker looks as he's having his kick blocked

[kevwun 15572]

If you want to see a punter look like a jackass, watch the punt return td the Jets had.  The punter was right in front of the returner and tried the weakest 2 handed push to tackle him that I've ever seen.

[Vic Mackey 46856]

Haven't seen this gain any real traction in the media. No idea how valud this is.

[Hermanator 6863]

This was during 2020 with the George Floyd protests. I'd be shocked if they didn't say stuff like that behind closed doors. 

[Guest]

On 9/11/2023 at 3:39 PM, Vic Mackey said:

I see ya Dak

 

Hot for a tranny. 

3 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

Haven't seen this gain any real traction in the media. No idea how valud this is.
 

Probably invalud

[Guest]

23 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

40-0 was fools gold. The Cowboys aren’t as good as they looked and also the Giants won’t be as shitty as they looked. The Jets have maybe the best defense in the NFL, so I don’t feel great about the 9.5 spread, even with Zac Wilson running for his life  

 

I wouldn’t touch this spread with Drew’s dick. And if I did I’d probably wager on Jets. 

16 hours ago, ATXbronco said:

The older I get, the less impressed I am with fake titties

Older I get the more I realize girls must have them. 

[Drew 2322]

I mean 9.5 is a silly fucking spread.  It would be stupid to take it...I'd stay away all together.

 

Having said that...they'll win by double digits with the same exact gameplan.  Safe on offense. Let the defense work.

Edited September 13, 2023 by Drew

[Pam Cummings 9530]

They are playing Zach Wilson and the only person who loses to Zach Wilson is apparently Josh Allen because he's done it twice.

[Drew 2322]

OH the Cowboys lost to Zach Wilson too...his rookie year irrc

[Vic Mackey 46856]

OH the Cowboys lost to Zach Wilson too...his rookie year irrc

Wilson has only played with NY for a few years. Last time we played Jets was 2019, when Sam Darnold beat us.

[Texzilla58 4704]

That game was one of the most pathetic cowboys efforts in recent memory.

[Sgt Hulk 13617]

Already rescued my Super Bowl tickets.  It’s our year boys. Show me a loss 

[Pam Cummings 9530]

15 hours ago, Drew said:

OH the Cowboys lost to Zach Wilson too...his rookie year irrc

Darnold. And JG was still coach at that time.