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6 hours ago, BornOrange said:

Sark and CDC had poor planning. They announced the date for the Spring Game back in January.

They should have asked the players if anyone had a wedding or some other conflict on April 20th.

Sarcasm? Getting really hard to tell in this thread 

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17 hours ago, texifornia said:

There's one transfer DL in the boat

 

So with Norton on board and UT still out there looking at others, what exactly is the depth chart/rotation going to be at DT? With Morre and Burke, it is unlikely anyone we bring in will get significant play as a SDE. So are we trying to move Collins to second string behind Norton and whoever else they get? Is Collins most likely one of the starters and we are looking to rotate 4 DT a ton?

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7 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

So with Norton on board and UT still out there looking at others, what exactly is the depth chart/rotation going to be at DT? With Morre and Burke, it is unlikely anyone we bring in will get significant play as a SDE. So are we trying to move Colbron to second string behind Norton and whoever else they get? Is Colburn most likely one of the starters and we are looking to rotate 4 a ton?

I'm guessing autocorrect mangled this beyond recognition?

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9 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

So with Norton on board and UT still out there looking at others, what exactly is the depth chart/rotation going to be at DT? With Morre and Burke, it is unlikely anyone we bring in will get significant play as a SDE. So are we trying to move Colbron to second string behind Norton and whoever else they get? Is Colburn most likely one of the starters and we are looking to rotate 4 a ton?

Wut up, Colbron?

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23 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

So are we trying to move Colbron to second string behind Norton and whoever else they get? Is Colburn most likely one of the starters and we are looking to rotate 4 a ton?

If Norton is our starting NT we’re in trouble. He’s a low motor, big body, two down player. OU abused his big back wide body Cadillac built ass. Although I think he’s a quality depth piece that can give you some good snaps this season.

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19 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

Well, nuts.  I don't blame him, but I was hoping we could hold on to him.

I was hoping he would portal.  I want Wisner getting all of those third string RB snaps.  He's a lot better football player, and Wisner is the guy I do not want to lose.

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53 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

So with Norton on board and UT still out there looking at others, what exactly is the depth chart/rotation going to be at DT? With Morre and Burke, it is unlikely anyone we bring in will get significant play as a SDE. So are we trying to move Colbron to second string behind Norton and whoever else they get? Is Colburn most likely one of the starters and we are looking to rotate 4 a ton?

Who’s cabron, cabron

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17 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

I was hoping he would portal.  I want Wisner getting all of those third string RB snaps.  He's a lot better football player, and Wisner is the guy I do not want to lose.

Hoping he would portal was dumb.  1.  What makes you think Wisner was a threat to portal?  2.  You can never have enough good backs.  What if two of the top three get hurt?  3.  Red brought energy and toughness to the team.  You can't get enough of that, either.

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7 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Then we still have three healthy scholarship RBs?

It’s like everyone has 2019 PTSD when we had to move Whittington and eventually RoJo to running back just to fill out a 2-deep.

It’s time to move on and understand what a healthy roster looks like. Tom Herman can hurt us anymore 

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22 hours ago, Bevo said:

I'm sorry to say Keondre Coburn is no longer with the team. Tennessee nabbed him. Interestingly, there is talk that he may not even see the field there.


They don’t at least get the guys that didn’t dress seats in the nosebleeds? 

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Here are Alex Dunlap's deep digs for the spring game

Offense

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OL Grades (Spring Game)

LT Kelvin Banks - 28 snaps

No disruption allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 81

LT Trevor Goosby - 31 snaps

1 sack, 1 TFL allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 77.58

LT Jayden Chatman - 27 snaps

No disruption allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 77.85

LG/C Hayden Conner - 47 snaps

2 run-stuffs allowed
1 false start penalty
1 knockdown
DEEP DIG GRADE: 76.28

LG Cole Hutson - 23 snaps

1 run-stuff, 1 TFL allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 73.83

LG Malik Agbo - 21 snaps

1 QB hit, 1 run-stuff allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 74.05

C Jake Majors - 28 snaps

No disruption allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 78.5

C Conner Roberston - 34 snaps

1 QB hit, 1 pressure, 1 TFL allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 74.41

C Daniel Cruz - 17 snaps

No disruption allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: N/A

RG DJ Campbell - 44 snaps

No disruption allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 79.18

RG Neto Umeozulu - 23 snaps

2 TFLs, 1 run-stuff, 1 QB hit, 1 sack allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 70.22

RG/LG Connor Stroh - 15 snaps

1 TFL allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: N/A

RT Cam Williams - 46 snaps

1 sack allowed
1 knockdown, 1 pin
DEEP DIG GRADE: 79.57

RT/RG Andre Cojoe - 44 snaps

1 sack, 1 TFL, 1 pressure allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 75.68

RT Brandon Baker - 36 snaps

No disruption allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 79.89

Hayden Conner played in this game about like he played in the 2023 season, which isn't exactly encouraging. 2023 was a down year for Conner because of the constant run-stuffs allowed (18 allowed in the 2023 regular season versus only 5 allowed for the entirety of 2022). The hope is that 2023 was a one-year-type of outlier for Conner who could have been playing hurt or simply ended up on the wrong side of variance. That could still be the case, but he'll need to play better this fall than he did in the spring game in order to match the level of play we'll see from the other four guys. It's pretty clear at this point that Conner is the weakest link of the Texas starting OL.

You can take that however you'd like, but we'd suggest that it should be encouraging that a player of Conner's level (who scored perfectly fine in the Deep Dig grading) is the weak link of the Texas OL. Heck, in recent years, scoring a 76-ish score on the week might have landed a guy at the top of that week's best-graded players. Things were bad and Texas didn't get back to the position it is currently in by playing at that level. Clearly the OL has come a long way.

And as Texas fans, you wonder how it can be improved even further and you'll ask about Neto Umeozulu who worked in with the first group at LG during some of spring ball. To that we'd say that Neto seems to be working (based on the spring game) exclusively at RG for now. And that shouldn't matter if a player needed to step in and replace Conner for any reason -- guards can easily move from side to side. That's the least of any issues anyone might have with Neto entering into the starting lineup any time soon. The biggest issue is that he doesn't look ready and never has. He had trouble moving laterally in the spring game, gave up leverage in the run game constantly, got his body weight out over the balls of his feet in pass protection and he still needs to really work on his punch placement.

There are some things to really like about Neto, but he doesn't look that much different in the spring of 2024 than he did in the fall of 2023 where he played 47 snaps in mop-up duty and allowed four run stuffs and committed one penalty. That's disruption allowed at a once-per-every-9.4-snap clip. Over the course of an entire season, that would be the most disruption allowed per snap ever charted in the Deep Dig out of 76 total Texas OL who played at least 100 snaps in a season. It would have been nice to see a spring game out of Neto that led you to believe he had worked his way through a lot of that stuff, but it isn't the case. We're going to have to keep waiting on him to come around, and if anything were to happen to one of the starting guards, Cole Hutson, at this time, would likely be the better option to step in.

And we've already seen one player who's showing he's the better option at a key position on the two-deep: Brandon Baker. He wasn't the second-team RT behind Cam Williams to start the spring game (he was working at RT3 all spring), but through the game, it felt like Baker simply morphed into the primary backup at right tackle. Andre Cojoe moved inside to right guard early in the scrimmage, and that's likely where he'll stay, taking over the role of Payton Kirkland who has transferred to Colorado. Cojoe's foot speed is better suited to play at guard for now. Once he moved inside, he didn't allow any more disruption -- and coupled with Baker over there (who played a very clean game and really looked the part technique-wise for a player who some thought was a little "raw" to start spring ball), it made for a much more stable unit.

It's going to be tough losing Kelvin Banks after the 2024 season, but with guys like Trevor Goosby and Brandon Baker looking like they are taking the kinds of steps forward that they are, the offensive line should continue to have bedrock pieces to lean on, even in a time coming soon when guys like Kelvin Banks and DJ Campbell are playing in the NFL.

Defense

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Quick Hits and Thoughts

- When Alfred Collins scores a pick-six on one of his 4 defensive snaps in the ball game, of course he's likely to be the team leader in production and his snaps-per-production caused is going to be absolutely wild, being such a small sample, there's not much we can take from it except that Collins was Johnny on the Spot and capitalized on a monster play during his limited playing time.

- The opposite side of variance can be applied to Barryn Sorrell, who also didn't play much in the game, but in so doing, had a missed tackle to pair with one assist which left him in the negative-production tier. Sorrell is one of the best players on the Texas defense, of course, so his bad score here in the system should be taken with a grain of salt. Anthony Hill didn't play much, either nor David Gbenda. Through the course of a real game, we know that Hill, and to a lesser degree, Gbenda, will be more productive and efficient than what we saw in the scrimmage.

- The real story of the spring game was the edge-rush play across both squads, even in the absence of stud transfer Trey Moore, who did not play. Collin Simmons (who was technically on the white team at the BUCK end, but played virtually all his snaps with the ones) and Colton Vasek (who played the JACK DE role for the white team more than any other player) were major standouts both volume and efficiency wise. Simmons was slightly better efficiency-wise and proved to be a guy who looks like he'll simply have to play this year, and possibly a lot. Simmons had a sack on Cam Williams with a speed rush as well as two separate QB "hits" that could have fairly easily been called as sacks as well as an additional QB pressure to tack on to one run-stuff, one solo tackle and two assists. He was everywhere, and it wasn't always against backup OLs. Vasek had his own coming out party with two sacks (he was only credited with one by the staff, but definitely did touch the QB before the ball left his hands on another play), 2 TFLs and one additional solo tackle.

- On top of this, Tausili Akana is a name we don't mention much, but he showed some real zip off the edge getting one sack on his own and getting in on another played blown dead with Wardell Mack in the backfield. Zina Omeozulu (who played at both the JACK and the BUCK through the scrimmage) had a TFL, a run-stuff, a PBU and an assisted tackle on just 28 snaps and would have been more in the total production tier of Akana had he not committed two penalties (one illegal hands to the face against Trevor Goosby on the Thatcher Milton TD and one facemask deep in the second half).

- Jelani McDonald had one horrible open-field whiff on Ky Woods that you may remember, but was largely solid and downright impressive at times other than that. He tattooed Amari Niblack on one play and had three solo tackles in total as well as the game-ending INT which, admittedly, did juice his score a good bit.

- Michael Taaffe, Xavier Filsaime, Wardell Mack, Gavin Holmes and Terrence Brooks all had coverage burns. Anyone who watched the spring game was thrilled with the QB play of Arch Manning and Trey Owens, but it came with some trouble on the back end. But it wasn't all miscommunications and screw-ups like we saw with Brooks early on in the Manning bomb to Deandre Moore or the Wardell Mack botched assignment with Jordon Johnson-Rubell on the red-zone TD to Ryan Wingo out of the slot (BTW-WINGO IN THE SLOT, GUYS?!) Sometimes guys just got run by and burned the old-fashioned way.

- Kobe Black was a definite bright spot. He was targeted in coverage 4 times and only allowed one completion while also getting a nice pick. We should be on the lookout for Black to get on a Manny Muhammad-like path to heavy run during his freshman season. Terrence Brooks was not horrible in the spring game, but the same issues we saw in 2023 continue: he's good until he's not. In this game, he was bad at first and then pretty good the rest of the way. He, as usual, had one of the more impressive completion percentages allowed when clearly targeted in the spring game (25% - tied for best among outside CBs with Black) just like he did in the 2023 regular season (41% - team-best among outside CBs). But it's the coverage burns that got him last year and he needs to be more consistent in 2024 about giving up these huge chunk plays. He was burned once every 81 snaps in the 2023 season which was second-worst only behind Ryan Watts (74) among outside CBs, whereas Manny Muhammad (362) and Gavin Holmes (281) were much less prone to the big blowups.

- With the addition of Trey Moore and the emergence of pass-rushers of all stripes and positions on the depth chart (along with a full summer and fall camp to get things cleaned up on the back end - including time to develop for guys like Black), one lesson the spring game may have taught us on defense is that we may actually see pressure on the opposing QB that acts as a crutch in helping out the secondary in its coverage schemes. It's been a while since we could say something like that about the edge-rush at Texas.

Onward to the offense.

I like the OL notes and the commentary on Terrance Brooks, which was written before he entered the portal. 

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1 hour ago, Had Enough said:

So Collins gets into the backfield, knocks the TE off his path to kick out the end which allows the deflection and pick 6 and the Oline gets off clean on that play?

Maybe I have things mixed up, but I thought Black got roasted by Wingo down the sideline in a 3rd and ~17. Also you have to given Holmes a little slack, Bond almost ripped his helmet off on his long TD. Without the blatant facemask, I am not sure that play ends the same 

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15 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Maybe I have things mixed up, but I thought Black got roasted by Wingo down the sideline in a 3rd and ~17. Also you have to given Holmes a little slack, Bond almost ripped his helmet off on his long TD. Without the blatant facemask, I am not sure that play ends the same 

Didn’t Black have safety help on that play but the safety was super late?  Am I misremembering?

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23 hours ago, Fondren & Main said:

Didn’t Black have safety help on that play but the safety was super late?  Am I misremembering?

If memory is correct it was Cover 3 and he just got beat, which is really bad given it’s 3rd and 17. Situational football and all. 

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On 4/25/2024 at 12:27 PM, Bodacious Bevo said:

Here are Alex Dunlap's deep digs for the spring game

Offense

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OL Grades (Spring Game)

LT Kelvin Banks - 28 snaps

No disruption allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 81

LT Trevor Goosby - 31 snaps

1 sack, 1 TFL allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 77.58

LT Jayden Chatman - 27 snaps

No disruption allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 77.85

LG/C Hayden Conner - 47 snaps

2 run-stuffs allowed
1 false start penalty
1 knockdown
DEEP DIG GRADE: 76.28

LG Cole Hutson - 23 snaps

1 run-stuff, 1 TFL allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 73.83

LG Malik Agbo - 21 snaps

1 QB hit, 1 run-stuff allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 74.05

C Jake Majors - 28 snaps

No disruption allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 78.5

C Conner Roberston - 34 snaps

1 QB hit, 1 pressure, 1 TFL allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 74.41

C Daniel Cruz - 17 snaps

No disruption allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: N/A

RG DJ Campbell - 44 snaps

No disruption allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 79.18

RG Neto Umeozulu - 23 snaps

2 TFLs, 1 run-stuff, 1 QB hit, 1 sack allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 70.22

RG/LG Connor Stroh - 15 snaps

1 TFL allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: N/A

RT Cam Williams - 46 snaps

1 sack allowed
1 knockdown, 1 pin
DEEP DIG GRADE: 79.57

RT/RG Andre Cojoe - 44 snaps

1 sack, 1 TFL, 1 pressure allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 75.68

RT Brandon Baker - 36 snaps

No disruption allowed
DEEP DIG GRADE: 79.89

Hayden Conner played in this game about like he played in the 2023 season, which isn't exactly encouraging. 2023 was a down year for Conner because of the constant run-stuffs allowed (18 allowed in the 2023 regular season versus only 5 allowed for the entirety of 2022). The hope is that 2023 was a one-year-type of outlier for Conner who could have been playing hurt or simply ended up on the wrong side of variance. That could still be the case, but he'll need to play better this fall than he did in the spring game in order to match the level of play we'll see from the other four guys. It's pretty clear at this point that Conner is the weakest link of the Texas starting OL.

You can take that however you'd like, but we'd suggest that it should be encouraging that a player of Conner's level (who scored perfectly fine in the Deep Dig grading) is the weak link of the Texas OL. Heck, in recent years, scoring a 76-ish score on the week might have landed a guy at the top of that week's best-graded players. Things were bad and Texas didn't get back to the position it is currently in by playing at that level. Clearly the OL has come a long way.

And as Texas fans, you wonder how it can be improved even further and you'll ask about Neto Umeozulu who worked in with the first group at LG during some of spring ball. To that we'd say that Neto seems to be working (based on the spring game) exclusively at RG for now. And that shouldn't matter if a player needed to step in and replace Conner for any reason -- guards can easily move from side to side. That's the least of any issues anyone might have with Neto entering into the starting lineup any time soon. The biggest issue is that he doesn't look ready and never has. He had trouble moving laterally in the spring game, gave up leverage in the run game constantly, got his body weight out over the balls of his feet in pass protection and he still needs to really work on his punch placement.

There are some things to really like about Neto, but he doesn't look that much different in the spring of 2024 than he did in the fall of 2023 where he played 47 snaps in mop-up duty and allowed four run stuffs and committed one penalty. That's disruption allowed at a once-per-every-9.4-snap clip. Over the course of an entire season, that would be the most disruption allowed per snap ever charted in the Deep Dig out of 76 total Texas OL who played at least 100 snaps in a season. It would have been nice to see a spring game out of Neto that led you to believe he had worked his way through a lot of that stuff, but it isn't the case. We're going to have to keep waiting on him to come around, and if anything were to happen to one of the starting guards, Cole Hutson, at this time, would likely be the better option to step in.

And we've already seen one player who's showing he's the better option at a key position on the two-deep: Brandon Baker. He wasn't the second-team RT behind Cam Williams to start the spring game (he was working at RT3 all spring), but through the game, it felt like Baker simply morphed into the primary backup at right tackle. Andre Cojoe moved inside to right guard early in the scrimmage, and that's likely where he'll stay, taking over the role of Payton Kirkland who has transferred to Colorado. Cojoe's foot speed is better suited to play at guard for now. Once he moved inside, he didn't allow any more disruption -- and coupled with Baker over there (who played a very clean game and really looked the part technique-wise for a player who some thought was a little "raw" to start spring ball), it made for a much more stable unit.

It's going to be tough losing Kelvin Banks after the 2024 season, but with guys like Trevor Goosby and Brandon Baker looking like they are taking the kinds of steps forward that they are, the offensive line should continue to have bedrock pieces to lean on, even in a time coming soon when guys like Kelvin Banks and DJ Campbell are playing in the NFL.

Defense

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Quick Hits and Thoughts

- When Alfred Collins scores a pick-six on one of his 4 defensive snaps in the ball game, of course he's likely to be the team leader in production and his snaps-per-production caused is going to be absolutely wild, being such a small sample, there's not much we can take from it except that Collins was Johnny on the Spot and capitalized on a monster play during his limited playing time.

- The opposite side of variance can be applied to Barryn Sorrell, who also didn't play much in the game, but in so doing, had a missed tackle to pair with one assist which left him in the negative-production tier. Sorrell is one of the best players on the Texas defense, of course, so his bad score here in the system should be taken with a grain of salt. Anthony Hill didn't play much, either nor David Gbenda. Through the course of a real game, we know that Hill, and to a lesser degree, Gbenda, will be more productive and efficient than what we saw in the scrimmage.

- The real story of the spring game was the edge-rush play across both squads, even in the absence of stud transfer Trey Moore, who did not play. Collin Simmons (who was technically on the white team at the BUCK end, but played virtually all his snaps with the ones) and Colton Vasek (who played the JACK DE role for the white team more than any other player) were major standouts both volume and efficiency wise. Simmons was slightly better efficiency-wise and proved to be a guy who looks like he'll simply have to play this year, and possibly a lot. Simmons had a sack on Cam Williams with a speed rush as well as two separate QB "hits" that could have fairly easily been called as sacks as well as an additional QB pressure to tack on to one run-stuff, one solo tackle and two assists. He was everywhere, and it wasn't always against backup OLs. Vasek had his own coming out party with two sacks (he was only credited with one by the staff, but definitely did touch the QB before the ball left his hands on another play), 2 TFLs and one additional solo tackle.

- On top of this, Tausili Akana is a name we don't mention much, but he showed some real zip off the edge getting one sack on his own and getting in on another played blown dead with Wardell Mack in the backfield. Zina Omeozulu (who played at both the JACK and the BUCK through the scrimmage) had a TFL, a run-stuff, a PBU and an assisted tackle on just 28 snaps and would have been more in the total production tier of Akana had he not committed two penalties (one illegal hands to the face against Trevor Goosby on the Thatcher Milton TD and one facemask deep in the second half).

- Jelani McDonald had one horrible open-field whiff on Ky Woods that you may remember, but was largely solid and downright impressive at times other than that. He tattooed Amari Niblack on one play and had three solo tackles in total as well as the game-ending INT which, admittedly, did juice his score a good bit.

- Michael Taaffe, Xavier Filsaime, Wardell Mack, Gavin Holmes and Terrence Brooks all had coverage burns. Anyone who watched the spring game was thrilled with the QB play of Arch Manning and Trey Owens, but it came with some trouble on the back end. But it wasn't all miscommunications and screw-ups like we saw with Brooks early on in the Manning bomb to Deandre Moore or the Wardell Mack botched assignment with Jordon Johnson-Rubell on the red-zone TD to Ryan Wingo out of the slot (BTW-WINGO IN THE SLOT, GUYS?!) Sometimes guys just got run by and burned the old-fashioned way.

- Kobe Black was a definite bright spot. He was targeted in coverage 4 times and only allowed one completion while also getting a nice pick. We should be on the lookout for Black to get on a Manny Muhammad-like path to heavy run during his freshman season. Terrence Brooks was not horrible in the spring game, but the same issues we saw in 2023 continue: he's good until he's not. In this game, he was bad at first and then pretty good the rest of the way. He, as usual, had one of the more impressive completion percentages allowed when clearly targeted in the spring game (25% - tied for best among outside CBs with Black) just like he did in the 2023 regular season (41% - team-best among outside CBs). But it's the coverage burns that got him last year and he needs to be more consistent in 2024 about giving up these huge chunk plays. He was burned once every 81 snaps in the 2023 season which was second-worst only behind Ryan Watts (74) among outside CBs, whereas Manny Muhammad (362) and Gavin Holmes (281) were much less prone to the big blowups.

- With the addition of Trey Moore and the emergence of pass-rushers of all stripes and positions on the depth chart (along with a full summer and fall camp to get things cleaned up on the back end - including time to develop for guys like Black), one lesson the spring game may have taught us on defense is that we may actually see pressure on the opposing QB that acts as a crutch in helping out the secondary in its coverage schemes. It's been a while since we could say something like that about the edge-rush at Texas.

Onward to the offense.

I like the OL notes and the commentary on Terrance Brooks, which was written before he entered the portal. 

Hutson didn’t get any snaps at C?

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6 hours ago, Codaxx said:

If memory is correct it was Cover 3 and he just got beat, which is really bad given it’s 3rd and 17. Situational football and all. 

Might have been man with a single high safety.  Black was pretty tight to the LOS and didn’t give ground.  I wouldn’t expect the S to get there as it was a long way to go and the WR had leverage pretty quickly.

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