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7 hours ago, UTHornFan014 said:

I'll say it again... Should have traded Framber when we had that chance

Hell I said we should have traded him last year. Even more value. He’s a mental midget. He’s been throwing these weakness tantrums his whole career.  Would anyone be scared to face him in the playoffs? I know the guys in the clubhouse know exactly how to get in his head when we eventually face him someday. The implosion will be awesome. That shit last night was uncalled for. I don’t know who the clubhouse leader is in there but I can’t think of anyone who would get in his face. Well maybe Correa. Wish we had a manager like Bochy. Espada just seems weak as fuck. I thought last year was tough to watch but this year is worse. Can’t wait for Sunday.

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10 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

we have framber's spot covered next year ...

 

This is the second most infuriating thing the Astros have done this summer- keeping him down the whole time. The most infuriating is keeping Cam up and pissing away his age 28 season when they could have sent him down for 17 days when he was the worst hitter in baseball. 

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Since there is less than 1% chance that Framber is with the team after this year, what are your 3 most memorable Framber moments?

I want mine to be his starts in the 2022 playoffs. However, in reality, the 3 things I will remember about Framber are all meltdowns:

3. Hitting your own catcher on purpose because you are upset that he wanted you to step-off and reset before throwing a pitch for a grand slam 

2. Getting pissed off at the pitches being called by Yanier and melting down against a terrible Angels team

3. Melting down against the Rangers after hitting Semien on purpose.

His production won’t be replaced but hopefully Arrighetti steps out and Javier/Garcia can get back to good 3rd starters.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Mitch Hedberg said:

Would anyone be scared to face him in the playoffs?

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS202110200.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/HOU/HOU202210290.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/HOU/HOU202211050.shtml

The irony of this thread jumping on Framber every time he gets in his feels is what I'll miss the most.

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Posted
12 minutes ago, WBT said:

Pro sports is about what have you done for me lately. He’s been a psycho since 2023. The flag is already up for 2022. Jumping on Framber in 2025 is perfectly valid.

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3 minutes ago, Mitch Hedberg said:

Pro sports is about what have you done for me lately. He’s been a psycho since 2023. The flag is already up for 2022. Jumping on Framber in 2025 is perfectly valid.

 

1 hour ago, Mitch Hedberg said:

He’s a mental midget. He’s been throwing these weakness tantrums his whole career.  

 

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51 minutes ago, hornmpa96 said:

Since there is less than 1% chance that Framber is with the team after this year, what are your 3 most memorable Framber moments?

I want mine to be his starts in the 2022 playoffs. However, in reality, the 3 things I will remember about Framber are all meltdowns:

3. Hitting your own catcher on purpose because you are upset that he wanted you to step-off and reset before throwing a pitch for a grand slam 

2. Getting pissed off at the pitches being called by Yanier and melting down against a terrible Angels team

3. Melting down against the Rangers after hitting Semien on purpose.

His production won’t be replaced but hopefully Arrighetti steps out and Javier/Garcia can get back to good 3rd starters.

4.  Every time a slow roller hit in his direction and I yell just hold it, as he throws it to right field.

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Posted
11 hours ago, PGFrog said:

Crane is a world class asshole, Luhnow was also and abusive ass hole, and the Astros won two world series .  

 Much rather have the team owned by an asshole who wants to win than McClain or McMullen.  

Crane has become Jerry Jones, a world class asshole that thinks he knows everything about the sport.

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Posted
1 hour ago, kevwun said:

Doesn't really matter the West winner looks primed for a first round exit.

Well right now the West winner would face another West team in the WC round, unless somehow KC overtakes one of us. The Astros only have a winning record against the Angels in the West this year and they have 12 games left against our division opponents in the last 23 games. Unless something changes soon, we are likely watching the Mariners and the Rangers in the WC round.

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1 hour ago, hornmpa96 said:

Since there is less than 1% chance that Framber is with the team after this year, what are your 3 most memorable Framber moments?

I want mine to be his starts in the 2022 playoffs. However, in reality, the 3 things I will remember about Framber are all meltdowns:

3. Hitting your own catcher on purpose because you are upset that he wanted you to step-off and reset before throwing a pitch for a grand slam 

2. Getting pissed off at the pitches being called by Yanier and melting down against a terrible Angels team

3. Melting down against the Rangers after hitting Semien on purpose.

His production won’t be replaced but hopefully Arrighetti steps out and Javier/Garcia can get back to good 3rd starters.

what's with the numbering?  Is the pitchcom off, or are you just plowing through/ ignoring 1.    ?

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Posted
53 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Crane has become Jerry Jones, a world class asshole that thinks he knows everything about the sport.

fuck all billionaires, sure, but cmon man this is a ridiculous overreaction. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Mitch Hedberg said:

I read the Sparky Lyle book The Bronx Zoo in high school, ironically about the Yankees, and the way they dealt with stuff. I have little doubt it would have led to an altercation back in the old days. 

"all-time scumbag move" is juuuust a bit off the plate.

Framber looks like an ass but this is pretty low imo on the "scumbag moves of all-time" list.

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After sleeping on it, I still hate this team.  1 fucking run.  To follow up just gross performances offesnively 4 of tyh last 6 days, and managing to score less than 100 runs in the month of August.

What's really irritating is this has been the lineup in the last week (more or less) and we've been basement level shit:

Pena- Good offensive player (131 OPS+ this year- 105 for career)

Yordan- Great offesnive player (180 ops+ since he came back from hand injury- 163 for his career)

Altuve- good offensive player (117 OPS+ this season,

Correa- Good offensive player (108 OPS+ as an Astro- 

Sanchez- Good offesnive player (115 OPS+ agaisnt RHP in career- which is all he's being asked to do as an astro)

Walker- at absolute worst average offensive player (94 OPS+ this year, 833 and 829 OPS in the last two months after a shitty start with no spring training and nursing an injury, 111 for career)

Yainer- At worst- average offensive player (90 ops+ this year, over 100 after terrible 515 OPS in march/April, 110 for his career)

Urias- At worst average offensive player (113 OPS plus as an Astro, 105 OPS+ for his career)

Smith/Dubon/Melton- Below average/below average/horrific offensive player (dreck, but its basically one spot in the lineup most night). 

 

4 good, 1 great, 3 average, 1 horrific. That shouldn't be a recipe for averaging 3 fucking runs a game over a 32 game stretch or whatever it is right now.  It's so infuriating. I pretty much bit my tongue when this team was going so bad in July when the hot streak wore off and the injuries piled up b/c that team was overmatched and just not very good. But this?  This is just unmitigated horseshit. 

This is not a bad lineup. They are just perfoming like a bunch of chucklefucks who've mailed it in for the season.  The starting rotation finally gets their shit together last week and they couldn't score if they were locked in a mexican whore house and kicked the ball around to boot behind Hunter Brown a couple starts ago.  Do I blame Framber for that bullshit last night with the grand slam being a mental midget?  Sure.  A little I guess. But who fucking cares, the second the Yankees hit the 2R HR in the 2nd or 3rd or whenever it was you knew the only way the Astros were scoring 3 would be if the Yankees got up big and grew disinterested in the entire proceedings. The Grand Slam was emotionally and mentally irritating but if you've watched this piece of shit team for the last 5 weeks you knew it didn't matter- this game was already in the fucking can for the Yankees. 


Fuck, these bastards need to get their heads out of their asses.  A 14-9 finishing kick and they win 90 games, the division for sure and probably get a bye into the second round of the playoffs where they will have Meyers back so a healthy starting 9 with no below average hitters, and a lot of pitching- it will all be right there. Instead- I imagine 9-15 is more likely with an 85 game win and maybe make the playoffs and maybe not b/c holy shit, the shit ass Rangers, absent their best hitter and best pitcher are on our asses and probably about to drop kick us right in the pussy over the weekend after we let the Yankees take liberties with us and finish up a 1-5 week which sees us lose the division lead and maybe end up out of the playoff pictrue altogether. 

 

Am I doing this rant right?

 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

Astros pre-ASB: .583 winning% and a +56 run differential

Astros post-ASB: .465 winning% and -42 run differential.

 

This team is in deep trouble. 

Ouch. That is bad. I knew they were in trouble when they started losing Hunter and Framber starts. 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Gut Wagon said:

If anything, you let them off easy. Let's can Espada before lunch and see if that helps. No way could it hurt. I mean, it has to happen sooner or later, so why wait? 

If you've listened to any of my pods, or seen any of my blogs or posts you know that I was NEVER really positive on the hire and always sceptical. 

He's just dumb at the end of the day.  Someone who knows the inner workings of the Astros has descirbed him as a dumb dog but loyal so you can't get mad at him when he shits all over the floor. He's open and non-antagnonstic to what Dana wants done (unlike Dusty) and everyone genuinely likes him as a really good human being.  He's just dumb as a box of rocks, shitty at communicating and brings problems on himself b/c of that (that he solves b/c who can stay mad at the good natured simpleton giving it his all). Ugh.  Fire him yesterday. Find someone that is actually smart, collaborative  and isn't a total and complete asshole.  That doesn't seem all that hard.  Alas. we had it and Manfred made us get rid of it.  The only thing that's been right the last 3 skippers have in common is not a major asshole that wears on people in the clubhouse.  So, no Terry Collins.  Larry Dierker would be fine (pre seizure Dirk).  Morgan Ensberg and Jason Lane both still in coaching? I'd give them both a seroius look. Tim Bogar if he's still in the game. I'm picking former Astros I know that were good in teh clubhouse and not morons that have had minor league managing and Major League staff experience.  None of them are Stanford grads in counseling or whatever like AJ Hinch, but they are all smart enough and decent people. I also have to believe that with no status in previous managing stops they'd all be ameneable to working hand in hand with the front office. 

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Posted
20 minutes ago, Gut Wagon said:

If anything, you let them off easy. Let's can Espada before lunch and see if that helps. No way could it hurt. I mean, it has to happen sooner or later, so why wait? 

 

asmus is already in town !

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We have sucked shit through a straw since Paredes went down.  His approach at the plate was a problem for opposing pitchers that had a cascading impact throughout the lineup.  While his productivity has arguably been replaced, his value has not.  No one has modified their approach to provide similar ABs to what Paredes was giving. 

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Posted
15 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

We have sucked shit through a straw since Paredes went down.

 

Excited Lets Go GIF

 

it mostly boils down to this. he was a key cog, losing him has yet to be fixed 

not sure if he'll be back this year but it'll be a log jam ..

walker 

urias

pena 

correa 

paredes 

 

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57 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Smith/Dubon/Melton- Below average/below average/horrific offensive player (dreck, but its basically one spot in the lineup most night). 

I'd bite your arm off to only have 1 of these guys playing per night.  It's not even close.  If you let me include Trammel in the stable of suck, for August:

3 started in 8 of 28 games

2 started in 18 of 28 games

1 started in 2 of 28 games

You can also sprinkle in a handful of Chas and Salazar games late in the month.

It didn't have to be that way but it was.

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31 minutes ago, WBT said:

I'd bite your arm off to only have 1 of these guys playing per night.  It's not even close.  If you let me include Trammel in the stable of suck, for August:

3 started in 8 of 28 games

2 started in 18 of 28 games

1 started in 2 of 28 games

You can also sprinkle in a handful of Chas and Salazar games late in the month.

It didn't have to be that way but it was.

YEah- but Alvarez has only been back for a week. During which Caratini and Diaz were hurt. I expect the 9 guys I put in there to be more or less the 4 good, 1 great, 3 average and 1 below average paradigm going forward. Hopefully starting tonight...

Posted
13 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Most of this thread:

How Dare You Greta GIF

Again, explain to me what his value add is. You cannot.  Your "we are in first bullshit" confuses causation and correlation. He's elite at nothing. He's tolerable at a couple things, he's horrific at most. 

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