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22 minutes ago, BurgleBro said:

Bored so watching film. 

 

I know OU slurps heavy dick but why is everyone so sure we'll dominate them this year?   That QB seems a legit dual threat. 

It will essentially be a brand new team to plan to stop. 

We all saw the breakdowns of Venables being Venables having tons of new disguised coverages against us. 

A lot hinges on the OU OL which as shitty as it looks on paper compared to previous years seems to have a great game against us most years. 

I think it will take a few more Sark victories for my 2023 ptsd to wear off..

Two words: Brent Venables

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38 minutes ago, BurgleBro said:

Bored so watching film. 

 

I know OU slurps heavy dick but why is everyone so sure we'll dominate them this year?   That QB seems a legit dual threat. 

It will essentially be a brand new team to plan to stop. 

We all saw the breakdowns of Venables being Venables having tons of new disguised coverages against us. 

A lot hinges on the OU OL which as shitty as it looks on paper compared to previous years seems to have a great game against us most years. 

I think it will take a few more Sark victories for my 2023 ptsd to wear off..

You did factor in just how bad the level of competition Wazzu played last year with that schedule?

Easily the three best teams they played were Boise,  Tech and UW.  

Washington was decent,  Boise wasn't anything special, and if piling up numbers against Tech is impressive be glad Maverick McIver didn't transfer to OU.

 

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3 minutes ago, PGFrog said:

You did factor in just how bad the level of competition Wazzu played last year with that schedule?

Easily the three best teams they played were Boise,  Tech and UW.  

Washington was decent,  Boise wasn't anything special, and if piling up numbers against Tech is impressive be glad Maverick McIver didn't transfer to OU.

 

I've heard this argument but not sure i buy it.  It's frequently used to downplay.   Gabriel hadn't really played anyone worth a shit, but in CFB a baller is a baller.  He ended up working out and would have done way better in the SEC than JA did.

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11 minutes ago, BurgleBro said:

I've heard this argument but not sure i buy it.  It's frequently used to downplay.   Gabriel hadn't really played anyone worth a shit, but in CFB a baller is a baller.  He ended up working out and would have done way better in the SEC than JA did.

 

11 minutes ago, BurgleBro said:

I've heard this argument but not sure i buy it.  It's frequently used to downplay.   Gabriel hadn't really played anyone worth a shit, but in CFB a baller is a baller.  He ended up working out and would have done way better in the SEC than JA did.

If you can't tell the difference between the opponents that UCF played in 2019 when Gabriel threw for over 3,500 yards  as a freshman and the schedule Wazzu played last year I can't help you.

Manteer got away with a lot last year he isn't going to be able to next year, but go ahead and behead worried about him.  

 

 

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9 minutes ago, PGFrog said:

 

If you can't tell the difference between the opponents that UCF played in 2019 when Gabriel threw for over 3,500 yards  as a freshman and the schedule Wazzu played last year I can't help you.

Manteer got away with a lot last year he isn't going to be able to next year, but go ahead and behead worried about him.  

 

 

Hope you're right.  Just starting some discussion on a lazy day.

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1 hour ago, BurgleBro said:

Bored so watching film. 

 

I know OU slurps heavy dick but why is everyone so sure we'll dominate them this year?   That QB seems a legit dual threat. 

It will essentially be a brand new team to plan to stop. 

We all saw the breakdowns of Venables being Venables having tons of new disguised coverages against us. 

A lot hinges on the OU OL which as shitty as it looks on paper compared to previous years seems to have a great game against us most years. 

I think it will take a few more Sark victories for my 2023 ptsd to wear off..

We should be better than them at every position except maaaaybe interior DLine. They have a new OC and QB to break in with no SEC experience. They have no proven playmakers unless you buy the UAPB guys hype from FCS. They have questionable depth everywhere. We have one of the most talented and deep rosters in CFB. This OU team looks closer to Kentucky than the teams of the Stoops/Riley era. 

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8 minutes ago, BurgleBro said:

Hope you're right.  Just starting some discussion on a lazy day.

A big thing to remember is that the scheme they are bringing in isn't something Pete and the staff haven't seen before.

This isn't Pardee and Jenkins coming to the SWC or Leach and Briles to the Big 12.  

Put pressure with 4, cover in the back, and let the linebackers hunt. 

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Regarding the OU Special Teams, here you go:

PK: PK1 Tate Martell (SR); PK2 Austin Welch (SR) - OU pushed hard for numerous kickers this offseason and they whiffed repeatedly. The dude that Texas picked up from Texas State received a hard push from the OU staff. Luckily, he thought better of leaving central Texas for a suburb of Oklahoma City, for God's sake. Ultimately, OU had to settle on taking the former QB, who resurrected his career as a PK at UTSA, apparently. Dude went 19-23 last year and also 35-36 on EPS. Welch is yet another transfer from Kennesaw State on the OU roster. Is it a good sign if your program raided the storied Kennesaw State roster this spring? Probably not. Anyway, he sucked so badly this spring that Venables and Doug "Freakin" Deakin, the OU ST coach, had to go out and spend legit NIL money on the 6 time transfer Martell. 

P: P1 Jacob Ulrich (Soph); P2 Grayson Miller (SR) - Another Kennesaw State transfer, unbelievably, is Ulrich. Dude had a solid season last year punting for over 45ypp. He ranked 35th nationally in NPA. Seems solid. As to Miller, there isn't anything you could tell me that I wouldn't believe. What the fuck does anyone know about a backup punter? My understanding is that he spends his summers in Rangoon, taking luge lessons. This spring, he was caught in the quad wearing a meat helmet, otherwise nude with a freshly shorn scrotum, with a Zoroastrian named Vilma chasing him whilst carrying a burlap sap and a thick reed. 

KR: KR1 Isaiah Sategna (JR); KR2 Taylor Tatum (Soph) - Sategna is a better PR than KR, but he did both at Arkansas and OU needs a guy. Tatum returned a few last year and, given that they're breaking their bank to start the previously discussed Jadyn Ott at RB1, Tatum needs something to do if he's not going to get restless. 

PR: PR1 Isaiah Sategna (JR); PR2 Peyton Bowen (JR) - Sategna has averaged almost 10ypc as a punt returner, and that's solid. He was 11th in the country in 2023. Bowen averaged 8.36ypr last year, is coming off of turf toe surgery, and struggled at times with judging punts correctly. Bowen made multiple boneheaded decisions to catch or not catch punts last year. 

ST Coaching and Outlook: OU brought in Deakin from SDSU before last season and OU's STs made a big jump overall on the season. They went from 127th nationally in ST Efficiency in 2023, to 41st in 2024. That's pretty terrific in terms of improvement. He's going to have to work some magic to have OU at or better than that level in 2025. They lost most of their key contributors in every facet of their group, save Bowen at PR and he was likely the worst of the lot. 

Fun note about Deakin is that the OU SID team must really not like or give a shit about the dude. He's the only person on OU's roster of players, coaches, and analysts, at least as far as I saw, without a bio on their site: https://soonersports.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/doug-deakin/1211 . Deakin played at SDSU as a walk-on and then coached their for 14+ years before heading to Norman. His SDSU units finished in the top 10 of STE nationally 3 straight years before he split in 2024. 

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Regarding OU's schedule:

8/30 5pm - Illinois State - Another season where OU courageously schedules an FCS school. Is anyone else a better midget-puncher than the fucking okies? They're going to look like a top 5 team as they win 84-7.

9/6 6:30pm - Michigan - My small write-up from a few weeks ago on Michigan for 2025 is spoilered below. I posted it on this thread when someone asked about them on page 1, but here it is again below. Bottom line is that this could be a defensive dogfight. Both defenses should be pretty good and ahead of both offenses, probably by a lot. Gaylord is a tough place to play, but Michigan is arguably more talented and experienced. This is a "show me" game for Venables, along with the RRS. If he wins this one, OU's pushing against their ceiling and might be looking at 9-3, even. 

Spoiler

Michigan returns 7 of 11 starters on defense and gets Rod Moore back at Safety. They also picked up TJ Metcalf in the portal from Arkansas. They will have a good, experienced defense from day 1. 

Offensively, they return 4 of 5 on the OL, all of the WRs (if that's a good thing?), Bredeson at H-back and they picked up Justice Haynes in the portal from Bama. This will not be the same shitty offense for Michigan from 2024, even if they're not worldbeaters early. The OL's maturity, as opposed to last season, will be a big deal early. 

Michigan is a substantially more talented team that OU, even if the QB will be greener than Augusta to open the season.

9/13 11am - @ Temple - Yep, OU is going to Philly. I honestly don't think that's a bad H/H/A deal, provided you like Philly. I personally dislike Philadelphia more than any other major city I've ever visited, anywhere on the planet. Angry, shitty people. Dirty overall landscape. Usually, the weather fucking sucks. But, hey, the history is awesome. I'm talking more about the city than Temple because there isn't much to discuss with regard to Temple. They return their atrocious QB and a 4 time transfer to challenge him, 3 OLs, the SHSU RB that followed new HC Keeler, and 2 CBs. That's all the starters. Temple opens against UMass, also with a new HC, and Howard. They'll be 2-0 coming into this game and the hype leading into will be through the roof. A mole rat's roof. 

9/20 2:30 or nighttime - Auburn - A lot of people are sleeping on Auburn for 2025. Maybe that's justified, I don't know. Freeze has been a disappointment. Arnold has been a disappointment. But, Freeze has recruited really well. Auburn has, potentially, an amazing WR corps. They return 3 OLs, a likely 1st round pick at Edge and the entire secondary except Jerrin Thompson. DJ Durkin has yet to kill anyone there, also. This one should be physical.

9/27 - OFF

10/4 3pm - Kent State - Another brave scheduling match-up in the non-con on the part of OU. I assume Kent State will be the worst FBS team yet again, even with Delaware and Missouri State joining the ranks. 

10/11 2:30 - Texas - Rubber meets the road for Venables with this game. I predict pain.

10/18 11am - @ South Carolina - SCar has two of the best players at their position in the country in Sellers (QB) and Stewart (Edge). They have to replace a metric ton around both of them. SCar is going to be overranked heading into this season and, by that, I mean they'll be ranked. Still, I'm sure they'll be a tough team and they certainly have no fear for OU after last season. 

10/25 11am - Ole Miss - Yet another team that is likely to start the season ranked and will not finish the season as so. Kiffin has to replace almost every starter this season. I think Ole Miss is headed for an FSU 2024 type of year unless they really hit on all transfers. 

11/1 2:30 or nighttime - @ Tennessee - Crazily, Tennessee will also likely open the season ranked. They lost most of their starters on offense and they're going to battle in the SEC with the former App State QB as their starter. Woof. They return most of their defense, but they lost 2 of the front four and Pearce. The front seven was the key to their team last season. 

11/8 - OFF

11/15 2:30 or nighttime - @ Alabama - Bama returns numerous high quality starters, including Ryan Williams, Miller, and Proctor on offense. They also return Keenan JR, Lawson and most of the secondary on defense. Bama hosts LSU the week before and that might be a giant help to OU, coming off of a bye. The talent disparity in this game is gigantic. 

11/22 11am - Missouri - Mizzou was a paper tiger in 2024 and everyone knew it. Once they were exposed later in the year, the bloom was off the rose for 2025 expectations. They lost key talent all over the field. I expect them to struggle to get to a winning record. 

11/29 2:30 or nighttime - LSU - I did a write-up on LSU on a recruiting thread discussion and I've spoilered that below. The bottom line is that LSU is going to be good this year, but they're also not a top 10 team. Nussmeier gets a ton of credit for being a guy that can really hit a 10 yard out or dig decently. 

Spoiler

From May 8th:

We'll obviously discuss this more later in the offseason, but the hyping of LSU for 2025 appears comical.

On offense, they're replacing all but one OL. They didn't win big last year with a veteran OL that included 4! draft picks last month. They couldn't run the ball well with that group but surely that's getting fixed now with underclassmen who have never played, right? They also lost their starting TE, and his blocking, in the second round.

They return an overrated QB in Nussmeier. He's going to be pitched by the national media as a Heisman candidate and proclaimed QB1 or QB2 in the 2026 draft without, apparently, most of the people doing it having watched this guy or his film.

They will certainly have a strong WR corps including Barion Brown and Nic Anderson to go with Aaron Anderson and Zavion Thomas. The TE spot is fucking terrible. They took Bauer Sharp and Donovan Green in the portal and people actually lauded those takes. Durham is an excellent RB1.

Offensively, they should be able to put up points, but there will be growing pains with 3 RS Sophomores and 2 RS Freshmen on the OL and a noob at TE as well.

On defense, both Edges are gone to the draft, and they replaced one of them with the renowned loser, Patrick Peyton from FSU. Once crowned part of the greatest DL in the entire country by Thamel and other idiots ahead of 2024, if that guy was worth a shit, he'd have left for the draft. On the other side is Pyburn from Florida and he's decent.

They're relying on a soft as pudding Dominick McKinley and a butterball whiny bitch trending towards 450 pounds in Sydir Mitchell at DT. Their DT situation is laughably bad. Strong work by Bo Davis there.

Then you have Harold "I'm pretty good against Arkansas" Perkins Jr coming off of an ACL injury and being honked about again as some sort of wizard. The guy had 16 tackles, 0 sacks, 0 FFs, O INTs last season in 4 games before injury. He was really making his presence felt. Next to him is Weeks, coming off a fractured lower leg himself.

They return most of their secondary, which I am not sure is a good thing. They added the UH Safety, maybe he helps. The LSU defense of 2024 was plain as grits. They didn't get a ton of pressure, they didn't stop the run well, they didn't stop the pass well, they didn't get a bunch of turnovers and they sucked in the red zone. But suddenly this season, they're going to be awesome and the SEC is shaking in its boots. Right.

Regarding the schedule, they go: 

-@ Clemson 8/30

-La Tech 9/6

-Florida 9/13

-FCS 9/20

-@Ole Miss 9/27

off

-SCar 10/11

-@ Vandy 10/18

-ATM 10/25

off

-@ Bama 11/8

-Arkansas 11/15

-WKU 11/22

-@ OU 11/29

It's pretty easy to consider that depth chart, the lack of experience, and that schedule and see a ceiling of 9-3. GTFO on them as a playoff team in 2025, especially with Brian Kelly running things. Anyone talking about LSU being better than 9-3 or a playoff either hasn't critically reviewed the team at all, or they're inherently in the tank for LSU in the first place. 

Outlook: I've continued to think that this team is better than they're getting credit for, and after thinking through the schedule, especially when removing brand vaneer for some of these teams, I'm still thinking that OU is a 8/5-9/4 team in 2025. That's probably good enough to keep Venables on as HC, and to keep us happy. 

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Fun note about Deakin is that the OU SID team must really not like or give a shit about the dude. He's the only person on OU's roster of players, coaches, and analysts, at least as far as I saw, without a bio on their site

 

Damn. Not like he just got there after this spring semester was over, either.

 

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