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11 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Write him off, buddy. As a general rule, if a freshman isn’t in the “I’m told” part of the $9.95er updates before their first fall camp ends, they’re never going to produce for the program. 

I mean, that sounds like science to me. RIP JW. 

Posted
9 hours ago, Hermanator said:

He can be next season, if he really wants it. Or he can go around twiddling sticks and and balls running in circles and we recruit his spot in December. His decision. 

Or, he can rest the next few weeks, contribute for the back 2/3rd’s of the season mostly on special teams and create great film for himself going into next season. 
 

Sorry if I interrupted your all or nothing fantasy with sanity.

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Monday - Bobby

Not much of substance here, but I'll post it nonetheless:

Spoiler

Monday

 

Bobby Burton

By Bobby Burton

  • 12 minutes ago
 

Following this past Saturday’s second and final scrimmage of training camp, Texas coach Steve Sarkisian said he liked what he saw from his team.

There were a couple of explosive plays on offense he said he liked, from Ryan Wingo and others, while he also made sure to mention his defensive front as a source of excitement for 2025.

At 11am today, Sark steps to the podium once more.

But this time will be slightly different.

This means it’s now officially football season because Sark typically meets with the media every Monday during football season.

Sark is making the transition from training camp to regular season and the players will be doing the same.

While there may be some tinkering still with the lineups, all eyes will be on Ohio State. So it’ll be very interesting what Sark has to say to the media this morning; what he reveals or doesn’t reveal, etc. But make no mistake, the fundamentals of fall camp are in the rearview mirror, now it’s time for the season to begin.

**

This will also be the final week where Texas players do not have to attend classes while practicing. That means extra time in the film, at the facility, etc., are open game.

The first day of the fall semester begins exactly one week from today.

**

Cedric Baxter is THE surprise of camp. His health has been such that Sark even announced to the media on Saturday that he would accelerate Baxter’s timeline for a return (meaning possible real carries against Ohio State).

However, it’s important to note that Baxter is still scrimmaging and practicing with a knee brace.

In other words, yes, there’s a lot (and I mean a lot) of hope here that he can give Texas a real punch in the power run game that it largely lacked a year ago. But, we have to realize he’s still a work in progress. Hopefully he keeps getting better and better as the year wears on.

His health would give Texas a running back that can really lean on defenses in the 4th quarter (like Tre Wisner did against A&M last year).

**

One last thought:

I feel like there is more anticipation for this season than any since Colt McCoy’s final year in Austin. That’s what my gut tells me.

Does that feel right to you?

Hook’Em!

 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

Not much of substance here

There is still no real football until Saturday morning; therefore:

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Posted (edited)

I’m officially frustrated. I either need to get laid or watch a Texas football game. Maybe both but let’s be honest at 50 I can probably only handle one or the other and 3 hours of football sounds more exotic and enticing at this point in the cycle. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

Monday - Bobby

Not much of substance here, but I'll post it nonetheless:

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Monday

 

Bobby Burton

By Bobby Burton

  • 12 minutes ago
 

Following this past Saturday’s second and final scrimmage of training camp, Texas coach Steve Sarkisian said he liked what he saw from his team.

There were a couple of explosive plays on offense he said he liked, from Ryan Wingo and others, while he also made sure to mention his defensive front as a source of excitement for 2025.

At 11am today, Sark steps to the podium once more.

But this time will be slightly different.

This means it’s now officially football season because Sark typically meets with the media every Monday during football season.

Sark is making the transition from training camp to regular season and the players will be doing the same.

While there may be some tinkering still with the lineups, all eyes will be on Ohio State. So it’ll be very interesting what Sark has to say to the media this morning; what he reveals or doesn’t reveal, etc. But make no mistake, the fundamentals of fall camp are in the rearview mirror, now it’s time for the season to begin.

**

This will also be the final week where Texas players do not have to attend classes while practicing. That means extra time in the film, at the facility, etc., are open game.

The first day of the fall semester begins exactly one week from today.

**

Cedric Baxter is THE surprise of camp. His health has been such that Sark even announced to the media on Saturday that he would accelerate Baxter’s timeline for a return (meaning possible real carries against Ohio State).

However, it’s important to note that Baxter is still scrimmaging and practicing with a knee brace.

In other words, yes, there’s a lot (and I mean a lot) of hope here that he can give Texas a real punch in the power run game that it largely lacked a year ago. But, we have to realize he’s still a work in progress. Hopefully he keeps getting better and better as the year wears on.

His health would give Texas a running back that can really lean on defenses in the 4th quarter (like Tre Wisner did against A&M last year).

**

One last thought:

I feel like there is more anticipation for this season than any since Colt McCoy’s final year in Austin. That’s what my gut tells me.

Does that feel right to you?

Hook’Em!

 

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I feel like there is more anticipation for this season than any since Colt McCoy’s final year in Austin. That’s what my gut tells me.

Does that feel right to you?

I think that's right.  A lot of it is the Arch Manning hype, but we're also coming off two consecutive semifinal appearances, have a kickass defense, and a ton of talent all over.  I think the expectations should be tempered a bit from the 2009 team because we had a senior Colt McCoy who was a Heisman runner-up in 2008.  But I don't think I've been as excited about the Longhorns' potential ceiling since 2009.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, troph said:

I’m officially frustrated. I either need to get laid or watch a Texas football game. Maybe both but let’s be honest at 50 I can probably only handle one or the other and 3 hours of football sounds more exotic and enticing at this point in the cycle. 

I'd say maybe throw yourself into other Texas fall sports but Ange Kelly fucking sucks and so does, apparently, the women's soccer team. Volleyball plays this week, though. Probably not completely sating, but it's something. I see the NFL preseason in the same light and that will do tonight.

Posted (edited)

The first quarter/half of the last preseason game is the only one worth watching unless you can get excited about watching 2nd and 3rd stringers battle it out against guys that are about to be cut.  The backup qb play is generally so shitty that it makes the games very boring.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Volleyball plays this week, though.

Just the Orange and White scrimmage

August 29 is the opener

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Posted
7 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I think that's right.  A lot of it is the Arch Manning hype, but we're also coming off two consecutive semifinal appearances, have a kickass defense, and a ton of talent all over.  I think the expectations should be tempered a bit from the 2009 team because we had a senior Colt McCoy who was a Heisman runner-up in 2008.  But I don't think I've been as excited about the Longhorns' potential ceiling since 2009.

 I think it's even more simple than this; We follow the team closely and we have every expectation that we will compete for a national championship. That hasn't happened in 16 years. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

 I think it's even more simple than this; We follow the team closely and we have every expectation that we will compete for a national championship. That hasn't happened in 16 years. 

I agree.  But my point was that the expectations in 2009 were a bit more justified because of a senior Colt McCoy compared to Arch Manning with all of two starts.  I think Arch has better offensive talent around him than Colt did.  But as great as we think Arch will be, there aren't a whole lot of data points at this time.

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Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I think the hype and the anti-hype at a national and casual fan level is all driven by the interest in Manning. That's fine. I just think it is misplaced. Kannell and Dvoracek taking Texas in the #8 spot of their rankings is a great example of the anti-hype. They're almost solely reacting to Manning and thinking they're coming across as savvy that he and the OL will have growing pains. Guess what? They will. The opposing team still has to score more than 17 points if and when that happens. Good luck with that. The Manning focus from every direction is burying this team's lede, and I'm a-okay with that.

There was a Reddit thread the last few days of non-biased take on who will win the national championship.  

A lot of picks for Texas solely because of our defense.  A lot of "Arch doesn't have to play at a Heisman level to lead Texas to a title, as long as he is slightly better than Ewers, with that scary defense backing him up."

Not to mention more depth at WR (if it is healthy, since Bond never got healthy again) and Baxter's return. 

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Posted

The 2009 offense was Colt running for his life and waiting for Shipley to get open.  The 2008 offense was very good, but no one replaced Quan and Obiwan on the 2009 team and the OL was worse.

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Posted
1 minute ago, kevwun said:

The 2009 offense was Colt running for his life and waiting for Shipley to get open.  The 2008 offense was very good, but no one replaced Quan and Obiwan on the 2009 team and the OL was worse.

Very true.  But I think the Longhorn fanbase for the most part didn't realize how our talent level on offense had been on a downward creep.  We thought the likes of Malcolm Williams, James Kirkendoll, Vondrell McGee, and Cody Johnson were going to be just fine, when in fact the Fuck-You-Pay-Me campaign had already begun. 

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I don't think any expectations should be tempered. I think people still haven't adjusted to the reality of modern college football and why we should be very confident heading into this season. 

We have done an incredible job of retaining our coaching staff. It doesn't hurt that Sark is our true OC. That might have been considered a negative 5 years ago, but never worrying about losing your offensive coordinator is a massive advantage on the field and in recruiting. PK seems like a DC lifer and is happy to be here. We've lost position coaches due to their successes but have done a good job replacing them. 

We have done an incredible job of retaining players in this NIL landscape. Yes, Texas has the resources that others don't, but we've still had more success that other big money programs in that regard. Instead of just focusing on our roster changes or perceived deficiencies, go check out what other big programs are going through. It's rough out there. 

We are literally in the dream scenario at starting QB. 3rd year in program/system, legendary family, great kid, loves UT, no rush to get to the NFL. There are not any other starting QBs out there that are clear upgrades, and Arch's upside is the best. This offense will be humming by conference play. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

There was a Reddit thread the last few days of non-biased take on who will win the national championship.  

A lot of picks for Texas solely because of our defense.  A lot of "Arch doesn't have to play at a Heisman level to lead Texas to a title, as long as he is slightly better than Ewers, with that scary defense backing him up."

Not to mention more depth at WR and Baxter's return. 

We got to the CFP last year because of great defense, really good WR, TE and RB play, good QB play and good OL. 

This year we potentially have a better defense than last years great one. A defense that was among the best ever, and yes it really could be better this year. 

Or WRs look to be of equal caliber, RB returns the most productive player and adds massive depth. OL and TE are a bit of a question mark. We play a QB that is clearly capable of equivalent level to last years with a much higher upside potential. 

It's really hard to argue against this team and happily we don't have to wait long to see if it is an NC caliber team or not. For my part, I think we beat OSU in a very low scoring afair. I suspect we lose an SEC game or 2 we don't see coming. Florida and Kentucky stick out to me. Then we hit stride and hammer the rest of the schedule.

But I'm an optimist and have a room booked in Miami so... 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I don't think any expectations should be tempered. I think people still haven't adjusted to the reality of modern college football and why we should be very confident heading into this season. 

We have done an incredible job of retaining our coaching staff. It doesn't hurt that Sark is our true OC. That might have been considered a negative 5 years ago, but never worrying about losing your offensive coordinator is a massive advantage on the field and in recruiting. PK seems like a DC lifer and is happy to be here. We've lost position coaches due to their successes but have done a good job replacing them. 

We have done an incredible job of retaining players in this NIL landscape. Yes, Texas has the resources that others don't, but we've still had more success that other big money programs in that regard. Instead of just focusing on our roster changes or perceived deficiencies, go check out what other big programs are going through. It's rough out there. 

We are literally in the dream scenario at starting QB. 3rd year in program/system, legendary family, great kid, loves UT, no rush to get to the NFL. There are not any other starting QBs out there that are clear upgrades, and Arch's upside is the best. This offense will be humming by conference play. 

We are building a fighting force of extraordinary magnitude. We forge our tradition in the spirit of our ancestors. You have our gratitude.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, South Austin said:

We are building a fighting force of extraordinary magnitude. We forge our tradition in the spirit of our ancestors. You have our gratitude.

Herro. This is Dr. Klahn. I'm not home right now. Leave a message when you hear the beep. You have our gratitude.

Posted

I haven't felt this way preseason since 05.  08 was a pleasant surprise where I didn't realize until the OU game we were actually a contender and 09 I was cautiously optimistic preseason.  

Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

We got to the CFP last year because of great defense, really good WR, TE and RB play, good QB play and good OL. 

This year we potentially have a better defense than last years great one. A defense that was among the best ever, and yes it really could be better this year. 

Or WRs look to be of equal caliber, RB returns the most productive player and adds massive depth. OL and TE are a bit of a question mark. We play a QB that is clearly capable of equivalent level to last years with a much higher upside potential. 

It's really hard to argue against this team and happily we don't have to wait long to see if it is an NC caliber team or not. For my part, I think we beat OSU in a very low scoring afair. I suspect we lose an SEC game or 2 we don't see coming. Florida and Kentucky stick out to me. Then we hit stride and hammer the rest of the schedule.

But I'm an optimist and have a room booked in Miami so... 

Under no circumstances are we losing to Kentucky. I'm including circumstances where we lose our three deep at QB and Colin Simmons gets caught robbing a bank. I would actually be very surprised if we lost a trap game this year. If we beat Ohio State, I expect us to go 11-1, unless we have terrible injury luck. I build in one loss for @Georgia or @Florida, although I'm confident that we will be better than both of those teams. 

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Posted

This shouldn't surprise anyone, but here are the last 10 CFP champions and their team defense rankings:

 

2015:  Alabama #2

2016:  Clemson #10

2017:  Alabama #1

2018:  Clemson #1

2019:  LSU #33

2020:  Alabama #13

2021:  Georgia #1

2022:  Georgia #5

2023:  Michigan #1  

2024:  Ohio State #1

 

Half of the champions had the statistical #1 defense in the country.  Two others were top 5.  One at #10, one at #13 (covid year) .  The major outlier was LSU, to which I counter "Joe Burrow and Joe Brady".

The correlation seems pretty clear.  This doesn't address the offenses, but it does seem to indicate you're not likely to win the title without a very stout defense, which we have.  Hence, the optimism.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Half of the champions had the statistical #1 defense in the country.  Two others were top 5.  One at #10, one at #13 (covid year) .  The major outlier was LSU, to which I counter "Joe Burrow and Joe Brady".

While you're at it, you oughta' counter "Third and Orlando."

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Posted
3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

This shouldn't surprise anyone, but here are the last 10 CFP champions and their team defense rankings:

 

2015:  Alabama #2

2016:  Clemson #10

2017:  Alabama #1

2018:  Clemson #1

2019:  LSU #33

2020:  Alabama #13

2021:  Georgia #1

2022:  Georgia #5

2023:  Michigan #1  

2024:  Ohio State #1

 

Half of the champions had the statistical #1 defense in the country.  Two others were top 5.  One at #10, one at #13 (covid year) .  The major outlier was LSU, to which I counter "Joe Burrow and Joe Brady".

The correlation seems pretty clear.  This doesn't address the offenses, but it does seem to indicate you're not likely to win the title without a very stout defense, which we have.  Hence, the optimism.

Think you have to mention J'Marr Chase and Justin Jefferson. Not only the 2 best WR in college that year, but arguably the 2 best WR in the NFL. 

Posted

Cautiously optimistic at best. Rarely do first year starting QBs win, much less play for national championships. Arch's 3rd year in Sark's system raises those odds some. Next year would be a better year for unrealistic expectations. I think 1-3 losses seems fair. Not expecting an SEC championship but I think playing for one again is a good goal. Depending on seeding, I think making the playoffs, reaching the semis again and being competitive with any team with a chance to win every game is a good goal for this year's team. 

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Posted
24 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

We got to the CFP last year because of great defense, really good WR, TE and RB play, good QB play and good OL. 

This year we potentially have a better defense than last years great one. A defense that was among the best ever, and yes it really could be better this year. 

Or WRs look to be of equal caliber, RB returns the most productive player and adds massive depth. OL and TE are a bit of a question mark. We play a QB that is clearly capable of equivalent level to last years with a much higher upside potential. 

It's really hard to argue against this team and happily we don't have to wait long to see if it is an NC caliber team or not. For my part, I think we beat OSU in a very low scoring afair. I suspect we lose an SEC game or 2 we don't see coming. Florida and Kentucky stick out to me. Then we hit stride and hammer the rest of the schedule.

But I'm an optimist and have a room booked in Miami so... 

I would say more like average QB and RB play. Wisner wore down late in the season. 

Big growth on the offense needs to come from the RB and QB room. That leads to me the turnovers. Texas was 130th in turnovers lost last year (out of 134). That was next level shitty. Crazy thing Texas was #2 in turnovers gained and ended up slightly positive in turnover margin. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Jimmy Two Times said:

Under no circumstances are we losing to Kentucky. I'm including circumstances where we lose our three deep at QB and Colin Simmons gets caught robbing a bank. I would actually be very surprised if we lost a trap game this year. If we beat Ohio State, I expect us to go 11-1, unless we have terrible injury luck. I build in one loss for @Georgia or @Florida, although I'm confident that we will be better than both of those teams. 

We roll Georgia 2 TDs or more. By that point the OL will be fully jelled, Arch will be comfortable and clicking. Florida is a greater chance.

As for the impossibly of losing to Kentucky on the road it's absolutely not likely. However, it's on the road the week after OU the third game away from home in a row out of 4. They won't be ranked and have 2-3 losses. Texas, at worst will be top 10 with 1 loss. It's exactly the sort of game that gets looked over by 18-22 year olds mentally. 

And I don't expect to lose but think it will be closer than expected, which is actually good as it will serve as a reality check for the players to focus the rest of the season.

Posted
11 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I haven’t been this 100%, iron clad confident since August of 2010.

Perhaps you're joking.  But I remember attending the Spring scrimmage in 2010, after Mack scape-goated Greg Davis for the Alabama loss and vowed to change the offense to what he thought would be an SEC power running unit.  I watched our running backs proceed to run into their offensive line over and over again, and turned to my dad and say, "Uh oh."

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

I would say more like average QB and RB play. Wisner wore down late in the season. 

Big growth on the offense needs to come from the RB and QB room. That leads to me the turnovers. Texas was 130th in turnovers lost last year (out of 134). That was next level shitty. Crazy thing Texas was #2 in turnovers gained and ended up slightly positive in turnover margin. 

I was being nice trying to avoid further degradation of this thread on "The Surly Controversy" re QB play and Wisner was good, imo, for the lack of support he had on offense.

But in bigger picture, agreed. 

Offensive turn overs  absolutely fucked us last year. 

Posted
29 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

It's really hard to argue against this team and happily we don't have to wait long to see if it is an NC caliber team or not. For my part, I think we beat OSU in a very low scoring afair. I suspect we lose an SEC game or 2 we don't see coming. Florida and Kentucky stick out to me. Then we hit stride and hammer the rest of the schedule.

I think we should be the odds on favorite from a talent and roster standpoint. However, due to scheduling and simple law of averages/probability I see us as 10-2 but with 9-3 more likely than 11-1. It’s hard to square those two divergences but they’re both true to me. 
 

Games, seasons, and championships are decided on the margins. Football intelligence, situational awareness, and lack of mistakes will be the difference. 

Posted
Just now, BurntEyes said:

I was being nice trying to avoid further degradation of this thread on "The Surly Controversy" re QB play and Wisner was good, imo, for the lack of support he had on offense.

But in bigger picture, agreed. 

Offensive turn overs  absolutely fucked us last year. 

I think Wisner was solid and he played his ass off for Texas. I dont think he will be confused with Bijan or Brooks. He also was forced to carry too much of the load, which really hurt him down the stretch. Lot of it was just a lack of capable bodies

Posted
3 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

We roll Georgia 2 TDs or more. By that point the OL will be fully jelled, Arch will be comfortable and clicking. Florida is a greater chance.

As for the impossibly of losing to Kentucky on the road it's absolutely not likely. However, it's on the road the week after OU the third game away from home in a row out of 4. They won't be ranked and have 2-3 losses. Texas, at worst will be top 10 with 1 loss. It's exactly the sort of game that gets looked over by 18-22 year olds mentally. 

And I don't expect to lose but think it will be closer than expected, which is actually good as it will serve as a reality check for the players to focus the rest of the season.

Kentucky's starting QB is Zach Calzada and they lost basically every difference maker on their terrible 4-8 team from last year. We win that game even if we sleepwalk it. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I would say more like average QB and RB play. Wisner wore down late in the season. 

Big growth on the offense needs to come from the RB and QB room. That leads to me the turnovers. Texas was 130th in turnovers lost last year (out of 134). That was next level shitty. Crazy thing Texas was #2 in turnovers gained and ended up slightly positive in turnover margin. 

Silly. QB and RB were both well above average. You don't watch enough college football if you think we were average at either position. 

2 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I think Wisner was solid and he played his ass off for Texas. I dont think he will be confused with Bijan or Brooks. He also was forced to carry too much of the load, which really hurt him down the stretch. Lot of it was just a lack of capable bodies

Not a good as Bijan or Brooks does not even come close to equaling average. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

Silly. QB and RB were both well above average. You don't watch enough college football if you think we were average at either position. 

Wisner was great last year, but Blue was incredibly inconsistent(as a runner). Gibson struggled after showing flashes early. 

Maybe not average compared to other teams, but definitely average for our roster. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I think Wisner was solid and he played his ass off for Texas. I dont think he will be confused with Bijan or Brooks. He also was forced to carry too much of the load, which really hurt him down the stretch. Lot of it was just a lack of capable bodies

I consider Wisner found money after we lost Baxter early in the season, Clark before the season, and Gibson had some ball protection issues.  I can easily see his numbers drop from last year simply because we have more available talent at the position, but he'll be just as solid of a contributor.  

Posted
6 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I would say more like average QB and RB play. Wisner wore down late in the season. 

Big growth on the offense needs to come from the RB and QB room. That leads to me the turnovers. Texas was 130th in turnovers lost last year (out of 134). That was next level shitty. Crazy thing Texas was #2 in turnovers gained and ended up slightly positive in turnover margin. 

Ewers and Blue were never afraid to mix in a momentum-killing turnover.

I'd have to do some digging to get the actual number, but I can remember at least 4 redzone turnovers for Ewers. That also played into the overall redzone issue. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

I'd say maybe throw yourself into other Texas fall sports but Ange Kelly fucking sucks and so does, apparently, the women's soccer team. Volleyball plays this week, though. Probably not completely sating, but it's something. I see the NFL preseason in the same light and that will do tonight.

I could probably kill two birds with one stone on the volleyball thing, if I can get my wife interested in "sports ball" .... as she calls it.  damn I sure know how to pick them. 

 

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

I'm more excited this year than 2009. It's 2005 for me in terms of the last time I had more confidence. I thought the 2009 team was razor thin and that the OL was a piper tiger. I remain shocked to this day that Texas made it to the title game and was controlling it before Greg Davis' dumb fucking playcalling.

My perspective has very little to do with Arch Manning. I really would like for him to be awesome, but the Texas football team, and all of us, don't actually need him to be awesome. He needs to be solid. Beyond that is all found money for this team.

This is the deepest roster for Texas in most our lifetimes. There are dudes at every position and in every class. The storyline used to be that the Alabama second team was a top 10 team. I never fully bought that, but top 25 for sure. I see this roster in that same vein. The defense's second team is probably a top 10 unit, or close enough to argue it. There is that. 

I think the hype and the anti-hype at a national and casual fan level is all driven by the interest in Manning. That's fine. I just think it is misplaced. Kannell and Dvoracek taking Texas in the #8 spot of their rankings is a great example of the anti-hype. They're almost solely reacting to Manning and thinking they're coming across as savvy that he and the OL will have growing pains. Guess what? They will. The opposing team still has to score more than 17 points if and when that happens. Good luck with that. The Manning focus from every direction is burying this team's lede, and I'm a-okay with that.

I agree and think this may be the best texas defense of my lifetime. I vaguely remember how stifling the '83 team was at 9.5 points per game, last year was 15.3 points per game in a different era of football.  '05 was great (16.4 ppg) but I don't think it will stand up to this defense when the season is over. 2025 probably going to go down as the best front seven of all time imo.

 

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Posted
Just now, Huckleberry said:

Silly. QB and RB were both well above average. You don't watch enough college football if you think we were average at either position. 

We can disagree there. Ewers finishing 33 in QBR (8th in the SEC,1 spot above Nico) with Sark and the talent around him is not screaming well above average nor did his draft position. Texas QBs were responsible for 20 turnovers (17 for Ewers).  Not to mention Texas threw more passes under 5 yards than any team in the nation according to Elko. It was a pretty favorable situation. I am talking the P4. 

Rb room had fumble issues, blocking woes, depth issues, and lacked an inside runner. 

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