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1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

Other than my grandmother and my great uncle you’re correct

Oh and everyone I took care of during my residency. And my residency mates who made it out of the most crushing poverty and social situations our country has to offer

 

All brought on by your white friends on this site and their ancestors. 

 

But, wait! You believe the system is inherently racist. If that is true. How did your friends "made it out of the most crushing poverty and social situations our country has to offer"?

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Other than my grandmother and my great uncle you’re correct

Oh and everyone I took care of during my residency. And my residency mates who made it out of the most crushing poverty and social situations our country has to offer

 

All brought on by your white friends on this site and their ancestors. 

 

But, wait! You believe the system is inherently racist. If that is true. How did your friends "made it out of the most crushing poverty and social situations our country has to offer"?

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Everyone I have interacted with the past couple hours is a dunce with the exception of @Bozo_Casanova who was the only one willing to have a discussion with an opposing viewpoint without needlessly getting emotional or baselessly claiming that I am a racist or otherwise. So, thank you Mr. Bozo for having a modicum of decency. May your tact rub off on some of these lessers.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, ElChupacabra said:

I don't want to diminish your pain or question your reasoning for feeling like you do. I will point out though that Trump has reiterated many times that he feels reproductive issues should be left to the states. I agree with him. If Texas is not conducive to your beliefs, I would urge you to leave and move somewhere that gives you those freedoms. I do not live in Texas so I am not up to date on Texas laws. 

 

The issue is not that Texas is not conducive to my beliefs. The issue is that Texas is contrary to human life because it gave the beliefs of others force of law.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Foosters said:

You get that I was parroting your take on knife and hammer violence, right? That was literally your rebuttal when presented with the facts proving you wrong. That you traveled there and people there told you it was happenign.

This surely is a bit.

Oh I caught your poorly veiled attempt. And I threw it right back in your face. Tell me, how'd it taste? 

Just now, Bozo_Casanova said:

The issue is not that Texas is not conducive to my beliefs. That’s transitory. The issue is that Texas is contrary to human life due, because of the beliefs of others.

Are you aware of any other locales that more directly align with what you consider to be right and just? 

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Just now, ElChupacabra said:

All brought on by your white friends on this site and their ancestors. 

 

But, wait! You believe the system is inherently racist. If that is true. How did your friends "made it out of the most crushing poverty and social situations our country has to offer"?

One of them woke up on the train tracks after huffing a couple cans of spray paint when he was 14, realized he wasn’t dead, and decided he didn’t want to end up that way. Had some good mentors that pointed him in a better direction, and used federal funds to get through undergrad in Oklahoma and (Harvard) medical school 

 

But his making it out, or my making it out despite being the first in my family to graduate high school, doesn’t mean the system isn’t racist or rigged against the poor. You either already know that and are trolling or like I said before are a fucking moron

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Posted
20 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Data.

Not what your friends say.  DATA.

The UK murder rate, including every method you discussed, is below 1 per 100k.  Less than 1/6th of what it is here.

And I'm well aware of the violent crime rate and issues in the UK.  Both of my kids live there, full time.  But even their stories aren't the tale of the tape -- the DATA is.  Data which you ignore, because it doesn't fit your narrative.  But facts and data don't give a fuck about your feelings.

So, you hear about the crime and issues from your own offspring and choose to turn a blind eye to it? What the actual fuck. I bet your kids love that dad doesn't hear them.

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Posted
1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

Are you aware of any other locales that more directly align with what you consider to be right and just? 

I don’t think that’s true. Places don’t have beliefs. Humans have rights- endowed to them by their creator, and I have no interest in fleeing my family’s home of 180 years and three federal Republics to accommodate people who think otherwise. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

Oh I caught your poorly veiled attempt. And I threw it right back in your face. Tell me, how'd it taste? 

holy fucking shit.

You threw back your dumbass logic at me? To make fun of me?

This is too much. 

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Posted
Just now, ElChupacabra said:

So, you hear about the crime and issues from your own offspring and choose to turn a blind eye to it? What the actual fuck. I bet your kids love that dad doesn't hear them.

Cite where I said the bolded. 

You can't.

Data is data.  Any individual's situation is that situation.  My conversations with the boy about crime in his life are mostly about him avoiding the sidewalk in front of the pub across the street late at night, because rowdy Celtic fans gather there and sometimes fight.  My conversations with the girl about crime in her life are about minding her possessions when she takes the tube, and avoiding walking home alone at night from her tube stop if she can.  Same conversations I had with her when she lived in every other city she's lived in.

Neither one of them is afraid of crime in the UK.  Both of them say that it is, and feels, much safer than the US.  Because they know that -- even if that fight outside the pub across the street gets out of hand -- nobody is going to pull out a gun and send stray bullets their way.

I'm actually glad you showed up here.  It's a good, direct reminder of the stupidity the rest of us have to deal with in trying to keep this country from turning into an authoritarian shithole.  Serving as a warning to others is still serving a purpose, so thanks for that.

Posted
2 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

This is going to take a few days at this rate but if we all band together, we can get a new username out of this psycho. 

His rep is dropping faster than DJT

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Posted

 

2 hours ago, ElChupacabra said:

Don't worry. My DNA and bloodline is well-established and will continue to bear fruit for many, many generations. In fact, I'm holding my little baby right now. I couldn't even begin to imagine the pain you must have felt losing yours.

Morons like you shouldn't be allowed to procreate.

1 hour ago, ElChupacabra said:

Trump seems to speak the same way at every rally and event I've ever seen him at. 

Everything out of his mouth is a lie. He also speaks worse than a 2nd grader. 

 

27 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

Uh, I go the the UK a minimum of three times annually. I don't have to watch the news. I can get it directly from the populace over there. Wanna come with next time?

Bullshit.

17 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

I am Chief Dirtybottom of the Nowipum Tribe.

LOFuckingL.

6 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

Everyone I have interacted with the past couple hours is a dunce with the exception of @Bozo_Casanova who was the only one willing to have a discussion with an opposing viewpoint without needlessly getting emotional or baselessly claiming that I am a racist or otherwise. So, thank you Mr. Bozo for having a modicum of decency. May your tact rub off on some of these lessers.

You are a troll, and a bad one. Get fucked.

1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

His rep is dropping faster than DJT

Lol. To be fair, I just woke up from a nap and caught up on this thread. What a cunt.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, ElChupacabra said:

 But, what they do have is an alarming number of stabbings and bludgeonings. Humans will kill and maim in any manner possible.

Stabbing deaths per 100,000 people in the United States, 2022:  .52

Stabbing deaths per 100,000 people in Germany, 2022:   .16

Stabbing deaths per 100,000 people in the United Kingdom, 2022: .08

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I don’t think that’s true. Places don’t have beliefs. Humans have rights- endowed to them by their creator, and I have no interest in fleeing my family’s home of 180 years and three federal Republics to accommodate people who think otherwise. 

Nor should you. However, I would caution you that if it does end up being relegated to state by state basis, your state may not be one that you are proud to call home any more. Although, I would encourage you to stay and continue to stand for what you believe in even if those beliefs may or may not differ from my own. 

 

Personally, I believe women should have choice of what they do with their own bodies but I also believe that there has to be agreement among the parents. Should the father want to keep the child and provide for it, I see no reason why his wishes should go unheard. 

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Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

Stabbing deaths per 100,000 people in the United States, 2022:  .52

Stabbing deaths per 100,000 people in Germany, 2022:   .16

Stabbing deaths per 100,000 people in the United Kingdom, 2022: .08

Again, you are intentionally discrediting that there is a massive population difference between those three countries. You also seem to refuse to admit that the countries you want to cherry pick are predominantly white. 

 

Quick glance says there are at least eight American CITIES with higher populations than Germany. Cities, my boy. Not states. When you have a dense population of humans you inherently have more crime. I believe the Bible even makes mention of that somewhere. 

Also, most of those cities I alluded to are the highest contributors to crime statistics in the US and the majority of them are Democrat controlled. Shocking. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said:

This dude interestingly comes up with the same lies about his background and family that Chrispy did, and talks in the exact same way.

Never heard of him but what leads you to believe I am lying about my background? Is it that your ilk have conditioned you to believe that anyone on the other side could never possess compassion or acceptance or love for their brethren? 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

This dude interestingly comes up with the same lies about his background and family that Chrispy did, and talks in the exact same way.

Narrator, it is that dumbass.

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Just now, ElChupacabra said:

Again, you are intentionally discrediting that there is a massive population difference between those three countries. You also seem to refuse to admit that the countries you want to cherry pick are predominantly white. 

do you understand what "per capita" means?

what difference does it make that the comparison countries are "predominately white?"

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2 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

Again, you are intentionally discrediting that there is a massive population difference between those three countries. You also seem to refuse to admit that the countries you want to cherry pick are predominantly white. 

So your working theory is that people of color commit more crimes than white people. 

You are a racist POS just like your Orange idol.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Brian Fantana said:

What do you think per capita means, dipshit?

You answered your own question with the last word.

These people are dumber than you can conceive of....and millions of them will vote in November, 100X more confident in their idiocy than you are in your competence.  It's the way of the stupids.  Dunning Kruger as an immutable law of the universe.

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51 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

 

 

This still doesn't even address the fact that the 2A is there to protect against tyrannical government.

 

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3 minutes ago, sidis said:

do you understand what "per capita" means?

what difference does it make that the comparison countries are "predominately white?"

I do. Unfortunately, when we compare per capital with countries that have populations smaller than most major American cities the data gets a bit...skewed. 

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Posted
Just now, ElChupacabra said:

Never heard of him but what leads you to believe I am lying about my background? Is it that your ilk have conditioned you to believe that anyone on the other side could never possess compassion or acceptance or love for their brethren? 

YOU ARE LYING. Bitch, most of us have been on message boards for well over 20 years and have seen thousands of you. Grand assertions, both sides, find a poster you can talk to that you act sympathetic to. This playbook is as old as this shit has existed. You are equivalent to this:

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

So your working theory is that people of color commit more crimes than white people. 

You are a racist POS just like your Orange idol.

Nope. Not my working theory. The data suggests it. Isn't that right @Brisketexan

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Posted
Just now, HOOKEM4 said:

YOU ARE LYING. Bitch, most of us have been on message boards for well over 20 years and have seen thousands of you. Grand assertions, both sides, find a poster you can talk to that you act sympathetic to. This playbook is as old as this shit has existed. You are equivalent to this:

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

 

Weird. I have no idea what that lunatic did to you but I'm sorry he/she/they/it disturbed you so. 

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Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

I do. Unfortunately, when we compare per capital with countries that have populations smaller than most major American cities the data gets a bit...skewed. 

per capital? i'm not sure you do.

germany has a population of 84.7 million people. the united kingdom has a population of 68.5 million.

when you say those countries are smaller than most major american cities, can you point me to which american cities are larger than 68.5 and 84.7 million people?

the idea of per capita statistics is to provide a contextual comparison on a more apples to apples basis vs. absolute differences...to unskew the data if you will. yet, you say that doing it on a per capita basis skews the data. explain that to me. how is it unfair to compare per capita data between germany and the united states? germany is not smaller than most american major cities. so what is it? just that they have a higher % of white people again? perhaps cite the central limit theorem in your response.

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Posted
1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

Weird. I have no idea what that lunatic did to you but I'm sorry he/she/they/it disturbed you so. 

Holy shit. Bwahahahha

You are clearly lying about everything. The kid, the race, everything. You are 16 years old I guess.

 

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Posted
Just now, ElChupacabra said:

Nope. Not my working theory. The data suggests it. Isn't that right @Brisketexan

Actually, the data plainly shows that adjusting for race is mostly irrelevant. 

The US has 2X the non-white population as the UK does (40% non-white in the US vs. 20% non-white in the UK).  If non-whites were responsible for most all violent crime, and crime rate correlated solely to race, then you would expect the US murder rate to be 2X that of the UK.

Instead, it is over 6X that of the UK.  So, your argument that the data correlates violent crime rates with race dies a quick death when you actually look at the....actual data.

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Posted
1 minute ago, ElChupacabra said:

I do. Unfortunately, when we compare per capital with countries that have populations smaller than most major American cities the data gets a bit...skewed. 

Ummmm, I live in the largest American city, and at 8.6 million people we are significantly smaller than the UK (66.97 million) and Germany (83.8 million). You are an absolute moron.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, sidis said:

per capital? i'm not sure you do.

germany has a population of 84.7 million people. the united kingdom has a population of 68.5 million.

when you say those countries are smaller than most major american cities, can you point me to which american cities are larger than 68.5 and 84.7 million people?

Typos happen. I meant to say states not cities and countries. You'll have to forgive me. I'm one being interacting with [checks notes] approximately 30 different people all at once. 

1 minute ago, HOOKEM4 said:

Holy shit. Bwahahahha

You are clearly lying about everything. The kid, the race, everything. You are 16 years old I guess.

 

You know what? I really could not care less what a middle aged white man thinks. 

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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, ElChupacabra said:

Typos happen. I meant to say states not cities and countries. You'll have to forgive me. I'm one being interacting with [checks notes] approximately 30 different people all at once. 

You know what? I really could not care less what a middle aged white man thinks. 

The largest state by population (California) is still fucking smaller than both the UK and Germany. Go fuck yourself.

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Just now, ElChupacabra said:

Typos happen. I meant to say states not cities and countries. You'll have to forgive me. I'm one being interacting with [checks notes] approximately 30 different people all at once. 

okay galaxy brain, i will repeat my question then giving you the benefit of your opportunity to correct yourself in stating that you intended to say that the countries are smaller than most american states, not cities.

with the benefit of your correction, which states in the united states are bigger in population than germany (84.7 million) and the united kingdom (68.5 million)?

last i checked, california is the largest population state so let me know.

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1 minute ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

The largest state by population (California) is still fucking smaller than the UK and Germany. Go fuck yourself.

So, one US state has half the population of an entire country and you can't see how per capita measurements can be skewed by that? Go fuck yourself. 

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Posted
Just now, sidis said:

okay galaxy brain, i will repeat my question then giving you the benefit of your opportunity to correct yourself in stating that you intended to say that the countries are smaller than most american states, not cities.

with the benefit of your correction, which states in the united states are bigger in population than germany (84.7 million) and the united kingdom (68.5 million)?

last i checked, california is the largest population state so let me know.

 

1 minute ago, sidis said:

okay galaxy brain, i will repeat my question then giving you the benefit of your opportunity to correct yourself in stating that you intended to say that the countries are smaller than most american states, not cities.

with the benefit of your correction, which states in the united states are bigger in population than germany (84.7 million) and the united kingdom (68.5 million)?

last i checked, california is the largest population state so let me know.

Ooh, really holding my feet to the flames, aren't you? So, we can combine two states and exceed the population of Germany and you're caught up on my mistake? Well, well, well. I have certainly been humbled 🤣

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1 minute ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

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What is it about liberals that they so quickly turn to violence or ad hominem attacks instead of just having a dialogue? Fascism at it's finest right there.

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Just now, ElChupacabra said:

 

Ooh, really holding my feet to the flames, aren't you? So, we can combine two states and exceed the population of Germany and you're caught up on my mistake? Well, well, well. I have certainly been humbled 🤣

What are the two largest states by population, and what is their population?



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