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1. This falls under the “Is it that fucking hard to just rub one out?” You are willing to lose it all over something that could have been resolved with some lotion in a hot shower. 
 

2. Michigan has been walking around like high clergy as a public Ivy who can have it all. lol. They ain’t no better than LSU or ARKY. 

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3 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

Your posts are getting increasingly terrible. 

She kept it secret even after it ended until he stalked her relentlessly this past week after she ended it. Only then did she report it, you literally said being stalked is a scary thing to suffer but then completely mischaracterize her actions. So not only was she a victim of a predatory work superior she was also stalked and harassed. 

But you really want to believe she's at fault. Perhaps that could be slightly true if she initiated and vigorously pursued him at the outset but literally nothing supports that so far. Still, of course, it would have been very easy to just say no in his position in this hypothetical but he didn't do that. In fact, his behavior on Friday completely contradicts the idea that he was a victim of a woman's pursuit and all-powerful vagina as so many apparently believe exists. 

So you claim to have been vigorously pursued by a woman but said no, you understand being stalked is scary, but somehow in this situation you are claiming she must be at fault because Moore couldn't possibly say no to a woman and even though he stalked her. 

You make zero sense and your claimed personal history should make it easy for you to understand why. 

Are you suggesting she’s faultless in this situation? She seems to have been stalked after she decided to end whatever it was they had. And while it is true that Moore could have/should have resisted, the same must be said of her. Truth be told, I’m probably much more cynical of the sports related interracial love relationships where millions are involved than the average observer. 

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2 hours ago, Parliament said:According to reports by ESPN and The Detroit News, Michigan has commissioned a Chicago-based law firm, Jenner & Block, to investigate the culture of the athletic department due to the many scandals within Michigan athletics in recent years.

 

Jenner & Block began investigating Moore earlier this fall after Michigan received an anonymous tip that the Wolverines’ football coach had engaged in an inappropriate relationship with a staff member. While that investigation initially did not find enough evidence to confirm the relationship, Moore was fired Wednesday after the staff member told university officials that she had been in a relationship with Moore. 

 

In the wake of Moore’s firing and arrest, Michigan has asked Jenner & Block to expand the scope of its investigation to the entire athletic department.

Well, those boys at Jenner and Block sure are a first-rate, cracker-jack outfit! They couldn't find any evidence of an affair despite the following: 

  • Rumors of the affair were rampant at the school and the internet
  • Paige got a suspiciously huge pay-raise
  • Coach was apparently DMing OnlyFans gals. Did he do it from a university-issued phone? 
  • Her attempt to transfer to another department was blocked by the coach
  • Coach calls a pizza place to get a pie named after her. You know, normal stuff.
  • Coach has been previously involved in two other alleged affairs
  • Affair lasted over two years

Maybe since Jenner and Block couldn't find any trace of an internal affair earlier this fall, they aren't possibly the best choice to handle the ongoing investigation. 

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4 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Are you suggesting she’s faultless in this situation? She seems to have been stalked after she decided to end whatever it was they had. And while it is true that Moore could have/should have resisted, the same must be said of her. Truth be told, I’m probably much more cynical of the sports related interracial love relationships where millions are involved than the average observer. 

She's an unethical floozy for sure.  The true victims are Sherrone's wife and daughters.  It definitely takes two to tango.  However, she ended it.  Looks like Sherronne had other women lined up but actually loved Paige.  But, when it's over, it's over

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Are you suggesting she’s faultless in this situation? She seems to have been stalked after she decided to end whatever it was they had. And while it is true that Moore could have/should have resisted, the same must be said of her. Truth be told, I’m probably much more cynical of the sports related interracial love relationships where millions are involved than the average observer. 

Yes - she is. The power dynamics alone make it that way. Say no and lose job or say no and have this powerful man (who has other powerful people behind him) slander you… etc etc. Once HE crossed any kind of professional line - this was on him.
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6 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

Well, those boys at Jenner and Block sure are a first-rate, cracker-jack outfit! They couldn't find any evidence of an affair despite the following: 

  • Rumors of the affair were rampant at the school and the internet
  • Paige got a suspiciously huge pay-raise
  • Coach was apparently DMing OnlyFans gals. Did he do it from a university-issued phone? 
  • Her attempt to transfer to another department was blocked by the coach
  • Coach calls a pizza place to get a pie named after her. You know, normal stuff.
  • Coach has been previously involved in two other alleged affairs
  • Affair lasted over two years

Maybe since Jenner and Block couldn't find any trace of an internal affair earlier this fall, they aren't possibly the best choice to handle the ongoing investigation. 

They were hired to NOT find anything, get it?  

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14 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Are you suggesting she’s faultless in this situation? She seems to have been stalked after she decided to end whatever it was they had. And while it is true that Moore could have/should have resisted, the same must be said of her. Truth be told, I’m probably much more cynical of the sports related interracial love relationships where millions are involved than the average observer. 

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9 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:


Yes - she is. The power dynamics alone make it that way. Say no and lose job or say no and have this powerful man (who has other powerful people behind him) slander you… etc etc. Once HE crossed any kind of professional line - this was on him.

I strongly disagree that a white woman would lose her job for refusing and properly reporting on the amorous advances of her black male superior. Girlfriend obviously has a thing for black men. He clearly likes whites women. We don’t know who zoomed who first.

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1 hour ago, Alien Octopus said:

That is not the same as fucking your assistant,  committing fraud, getting an abortion delivered, Breaking & Entering , terroristic threats, potential blackmail. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.

Did I say it was?  Just that sark was a poon hound.  

5 minutes ago, Satchel said:

I strongly disagree that a white woman would lose her job for refusing and properly reporting on the amorous advances of her black male superior. Girlfriend obviously has a thing for black men. He clearly likes whites women. We don’t know who zoomed who first.

Ah.  Back to the race thing. 

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9 minutes ago, Satchel said:

I strongly disagree that a white woman would lose her job for refusing and properly reporting on the amorous advances of her black male superior. Girlfriend obviously has a thing for black men. He clearly likes whites women. We don’t know who zoomed who first.

I'm not really in an argumentative mood, but you could easily take out in color descriptors, and all of this could still be true. That said, I don't think you're necessarily wrong. However, to your point about specific racial preferences, there's more data on him. For her, we only have one data point. So that shifts the argument slightly back toward the overall power dynamic.

5 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Did I say it was?  Just that sark was a poon hound.  

Ah.  Back to the race thing. 

I absolutely agree that it's one consideration to include within the overall decision matrix.

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7 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Did I say it was?  Just that sark was a poon hound.  

Ah.  Back to the race thing. 

Chuckle…we never left the race thing. This is America.

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1 minute ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

White coaches did the same thing. 
 

is you Mr issue with the girl being white or the coach being black?

Some here believe the race dynamic is less consequential than the power dynamic. I think it’s important not to downplay the consequences of race in situations like this.  They guy who dragged Moore in the video clip up thread did so in a comical way but he was making a serious point about men like Moore.
 

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1 hour ago, Satchel said:

Are you suggesting she’s faultless in this situation? She seems to have been stalked after she decided to end whatever it was they had. And while it is true that Moore could have/should have resisted, the same must be said of her. Truth be told, I’m probably much more cynical of the sports related interracial love relationships where millions are involved than the average observer. 

Yes, I'm saying that she is faultless based on all currently available information.

The people who think she actually consented to the head coach when he could fire her for not giving into his advances are the same people who think strippers actually like them.

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8 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Some here believe the race dynamic is less consequential than the power dynamic. I think it’s important not to downplay the consequences of race in situations like this.  They guy who dragged Moore in the video clip up thread did so in a comical way but he was making a serious point about men like Moore.
 

Don’t think it’s race.  Sherrone just went off the deep end.  Otherwise he’s likely interviewing for an asst position elsewhere.  Mel tuckers race wasn’t an issue.   He was just a creep. So you got a creep and a beta soy boy who went off the deep end when his mistress cut him off and cried on the sideline his first game as an interim head coach.  

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Yes, I'm saying that she is faultless based on all currently available information.

The people who think she actually consented to the head coach when he could fire her for not giving into his advances are the same people who think strippers actually like them.

Hey, there was this one in Vegas wearing a schoolgirl outfit that I KNOW fell in love with me.  And I was going to save her from that life.  Then I ran out of money and poof, she turned into a pumpkin.

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13 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Hey, there was this one in Vegas wearing a schoolgirl outfit that I KNOW fell in love with me.  And I was going to save her from that life.  Then I ran out of money and poof, she turned into a pumpkin.

I understand the dynamics. Both made are terrible decision makers apparently.  The person with the family and kids and is much older should know better and say no thanks period.  Can someone tell me why he deserved to be the head coach of the a program with the most wins in history.  Their decision to hire him is their choice and what came with that is not surprising in the least.  

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26 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Yes, I'm saying that she is faultless based on all currently available information.

The people who think she actually consented to the head coach when he could fire her for not giving into his advances are the same people who think strippers actually like them.

Well, that’s certainly one way of looking at it. Otoh, an ill intentioned woman might lie on a black man known to like white women and accuse him of something not caught on camera in a hotel lobby and get him fired. Amy Cooper literally bragged about the racial dynamic she invoked while claiming her lie about the Central Park bird watcher would be believed by the police  It’s possible to accuse a black man of drowning your children and set in motion a dragnet to ensnare every black man in a county. There used to be a time when a black male teen could be bludgeoned to death based on a later recanted lie of white woman 

These things occur because of the idolatry of whiteness present in white people and people of color 

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19 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Well, that’s certainly one way of looking at it. Otoh, an ill intentioned woman might lie on a black man known to like white women and accuse him of something not caught on camera in a hotel lobby and get him fired. Amy Cooper literally bragged about the racial dynamic she invoked while claiming her lie about the Central Park bird watcher would be believed by the police  It’s possible to accuse a black man of drowning your children and set in motion a dragnet to ensnare every black man in a county. There used to be a time when a black male teen could be bludgeoned to death based on a later recanted lie of white woman 

These things occur because of the idolatry of whiteness present in white people and people of color 

What? He was her superior.  WTF. 

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5 hours ago, Satchel said:

I strongly disagree that a white woman would lose her job for refusing and properly reporting on the amorous advances of her black male superior. Girlfriend obviously has a thing for black men. He clearly likes whites women. We don’t know who zoomed who first.

Clearly Paige had an eye for talent, being so involved in recruiting.  She was so good at it that  Moore paid 45k and made her his bottom bitch.  

Green is for the money, and gold is for the honey.

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5 hours ago, Satchel said:

Well, that’s certainly one way of looking at it. Otoh, an ill intentioned woman might lie on a black man known to like white women and accuse him of something not caught on camera in a hotel lobby and get him fired. Amy Cooper literally bragged about the racial dynamic she invoked while claiming her lie about the Central Park bird watcher would be believed by the police  It’s possible to accuse a black man of drowning your children and set in motion a dragnet to ensnare every black man in a county. There used to be a time when a black male teen could be bludgeoned to death based on a later recanted lie of white woman 

These things occur because of the idolatry of whiteness present in white people and people of color 

You’re on surly.  The idea of racism even existing or playing a part in society is seen as a joke here.  If you make a racist comment it’s just jokes.  If you push back against it you’re “being political” and need to take it to the CR.  I wouldn’t waste my time trying to explain power dynamics in  America and how titles and actual power aren’t necessarily tied together.  

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6 hours ago, Satchel said:

Well, that’s certainly one way of looking at it. Otoh, an ill intentioned woman might lie on a black man known to like white women and accuse him of something not caught on camera in a hotel lobby and get him fired. Amy Cooper literally bragged about the racial dynamic she invoked while claiming her lie about the Central Park bird watcher would be believed by the police  It’s possible to accuse a black man of drowning your children and set in motion a dragnet to ensnare every black man in a county. There used to be a time when a black male teen could be bludgeoned to death based on a later recanted lie of white woman 

These things occur because of the idolatry of whiteness present in white people and people of color 

Wait, what? As the head coach of the football team of the premier university, he was arguably one of the most powerful people in the state of Michigan. 

Might want to work on your proof points. As I recall, it didn't go so well for Amy Cooper. 

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8 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

Well, those boys at Jenner and Block sure are a first-rate, cracker-jack outfit! They couldn't find any evidence of an affair despite the following: 

  • Rumors of the affair were rampant at the school and the internet
  • Paige got a suspiciously huge pay-raise
  • Coach was apparently DMing OnlyFans gals. Did he do it from a university-issued phone? 
  • Her attempt to transfer to another department was blocked by the coach
  • Coach calls a pizza place to get a pie named after her. You know, normal stuff.
  • Coach has been previously involved in two other alleged affairs
  • Affair lasted over two years

Maybe since Jenner and Block couldn't find any trace of an internal affair earlier this fall, they aren't possibly the best choice to handle the ongoing investigation. 

If true, this is all circumstantial evidence that seems ironclad in hindsight.  Even setting aside UM's motives, if there's no more concrete evidence than the above, it's hard to justify firing based on this.

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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

If true, this is all circumstantial evidence that seems ironclad in hindsight.  Even setting aside UM's motives, if there's no more concrete evidence than the above, it's hard to justify firing based on this.

What is interesting is that the 'investigation' seems to have consisted of simply asking each of them if they were having an affair, to which they answered no. 

Last week, she purportedly provided 'ironclad evidence' to the law firm to prove she did have an affair. I wonder what it was and why they couldn't identify it earlier? 

Michiganders on YouTube saying it was openly talked about this fall and even national sports commentators are now coming forward. Michigan Man Rich Eisen is now saying he was informed about it but didn't speak about it. 

Also, the school reported that they investigated him two other times. I'm no lawyer and I'm not privy to the details, but it sure seems like they didn't try very hard.

Michigan vloggers are questioning the significance of everything happening AFTER National Signing Day, lol.

 

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The previous coach is involved in cheating and recruiting scandals that involved him lying to the NCAA and being suspended twice for major violations. He is not fired. The second coach has sex with an employee and is fired for it. Michigan not being consistent with its conduct policy because the previous coach was winning against Ohio St is going to open the door for racial bias allegations. It’s not racism driving these decisions but the win at all costs mindset and I for one am happy to see them get all of the criticism they can get even if it is misdirected. 

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8 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

What is interesting is that the 'investigation' seems to have consisted of simply asking each of them if they were having an affair, to which they answered no. 

Last week, she purportedly provided 'ironclad evidence' to the law firm to prove she did have an affair. I wonder what it was and why they couldn't identify it earlier? 

Michiganders on YouTube saying it was openly talked about this fall and even national sports commentators are now coming forward. Michigan Man Rich Eisen is now saying he was informed about it but didn't speak about it. 

Also, the school reported that they investigated him two other times. I'm no lawyer and I'm not privy to the details, but it sure seems like they didn't try very hard.

Michigan vloggers are questioning the significance of everything happening AFTER National Signing Day, lol.

 

Well, the kind of evidence I am referring to is documentary evidence (texts, photos, email) and witness testimony (I saw em).

As long as they kept their comms off school systems (email, etc.) the University and their lawyers would have no way of legally obtaining for example cell phone records.  I think there have been statements that Moore did not "cooperate" with the investigation, which would seem to mean didn't cough up his cell phone or personal PC.

It would seem likely that UM also provided cell phones and service to at least Moore if not her and other staffers and it seems they would retain rights to do deep dives on those, but personal or "burner" phones and accounts would have to be voluntarily provided.

There's no burden of proof for something like this until somebody sues.  But the above wouldn't satisfy a criminal burden if there was any it's about 50/50 on a civil case, depending on what kind of credible excuses Moore could offer for the more objective evidence.

But taking seriously adverse employment action based on evidence like the above would be somewhat dangerous for the institution and invite a civil case.

 

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Another interesting and slightly funny detail that is being reported by Michigan people is that Paige was responsible for taking care of Moore's wife and children at the stadium on game days!!! :(

That might have been, well, awkward. 

 

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9 hours ago, Satchel said:

And while it is true that Moore could have/should have resisted, the same must be said of her.

Why does she have to resist anything? She is not responsible for his marriage.

You sound rather naive. The volume of affairs occurring is staggering. Most are never discovered. The person at fault is the one bringing butter knives and break-ins into the equation. 

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7 hours ago, stork642 said:

I understand the dynamics. Both made are terrible decision makers apparently.  The person with the family and kids and is much older should know better and say no thanks period.  Can someone tell me why he deserved to be the head coach of the a program with the most wins in history.  Their decision to hire him is their choice and what came with that is not surprising in the least.  

Hindsight is 20/20. He was OC for their National Championship team. Ryan Day, Lincoln Riley, and Marcus Freeman were all promoted to HC at their respective blue blood programs when their predecessor left or retired. None of them were fresh off of a national championship either. He was every bit if not more qualified than any of them. Just because Moore crashed out in spectacular fashion doesn’t mean he didn’t “deserve” to be promoted when Harbaugh left.

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1 minute ago, JFKFC said:

Why does she have to resist anything? She is not responsible for his marriage.

You sound rather naive. The volume of affairs occurring is staggering. Most are never discovered. The person at fault is the one bringing butter knives and break-ins into the equation. 

Well, he does raise sort of an interesting point.

The law rightly presumes or assumes that consent is lacking in employer/employee sexual relationships (and in other situations where the power dynamics disfavor one party).  This is because consent often is lacking, or at least compromised, but further that we want to penalize and deter such relationships.

But that is a bit of a legal fiction that is indulged so we don't get lost in the details of every such relationship and whether there was or wasn't consent.

In the absolute sense, though, both parties retain some agency, depending on the particular relationship and parties involved.

 

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7 hours ago, Satchel said:

There used to be a time when a black male teen could be bludgeoned to death based on a later recanted lie of white woman 

These things occur because of the idolatry of whiteness present in white people and people of color 

Used to be.   Times have changed. Now a black man can be president of the US.  
 

now a black man, with h no HC experience, can get a top 5 head coaching job.  Oh and his direct boss also happens to be black

 

The facts will come out    Allegedly, she went to the university because he wouldn’t leave her alone  allegedly, she has receipts    Allegedly, Sherrone was trying to step out on her too   I respect no man who has no loyalty to his wife and kids  

 

 

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4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, the kind of evidence I am referring to is documentary evidence (texts, photos, email) and witness testimony (I saw em).

As long as they kept their comms off school systems (email, etc.) the University and their lawyers would have no way of legally obtaining for example cell phone records.  I think there have been statements that Moore did not "cooperate" with the investigation, which would seem to mean didn't cough up his cell phone or personal PC.

It would seem likely that UM also provided cell phones and service to at least Moore if not her and other staffers and it seems they would retain rights to do deep dives on those, but personal or "burner" phones and accounts would have to be voluntarily provided.

Thanks, that is good info.

Yes, I understand the university needs concrete evidence or they open themselves up to litigation, and that their access was limited. 

Regardless, it sure does seem like they were running a clown-show of an athletic department over there. 

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1 minute ago, TreatyOak said:

Thanks, that is good info.

Yes, I understand the university needs concrete evidence or they open themselves up to litigation, and that their access was limited. 

Regardless, it sure does seem like they were running a clown-show of an athletic department over there. 

Yeah, I'm not saying UM wasn't looking the other way, seems like they probably were.  But even if they weren't, I haven't seen anything that would make it easy to terminate him until she fessed up.

The fact that no witnesses came forward maybe says something about the Department in and of itself.  I find it hard to believe there weren't witnesses that could corroborate and flesh out the suspicions.

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7 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah, I'm not saying UM wasn't looking the other way, seems like they probably were.  But even if they weren't, I haven't seen anything that would make it easy to terminate him until she fessed up.

The fact that no witnesses came forward maybe says something about the Department in and of itself.  I find it hard to believe there weren't witnesses that could corroborate and flesh out the suspicions.

She fessed up because he allegedly blocked her transfer to another department and wouldn’t leave her alone after she ended it

11 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Victimhood has replaced accountability in society. 
 

Moore was clearly the real victim here. 

That’s right.  This is more entrapment than anything else. In fact I’m sure she invited him to the apartment and he was using the knife to butter his toast.   If the toaster was on, the prosecutors case is gone. 

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