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6 hours ago, VABuckeye said:

 Let’s be honest.  Year in, year out there are about six teams maybe that can win it 

Yup. Remember the purpose of playoff is to determine competition-based champion.

That a left-out TX or BYU could have destroyed JMU/Tulane, or even beaten Tamu/Bama doesnt matter. Decades of playoff history says their chances of winning subsequent games to take the cha,

5 hours ago, JBJ said:

This doesn't math.  It needs to be 6 with 2 byes or just 8 no byes.

Yes. Reason for bye isnt out of motivation to reward certain teams. Its a consequence of supporting odd number of matchups from the 6 true qualifying teams. 8 is fine too.

Obv football cant host a NCAA-like super tourney because the playoff would take forever due to nature of the sport. 6 or 8 teams keep it under 1 month.

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I'm sorry, but who fucking cares? There are always fucking blowouts. In every sports. Everywhere. All over the world. At every level.
The CFP national title game has been played 11 times so far and 5-7 of them, depending on your definition, have been fucking blowouts. It's goddamn football, blowouts happen, no matter how "good" the two teams are on the field.
We don't assign a champion based on who "should" win, or who has the most talent on a piece of paper, that's the whole fucking point of a playoff. There's a reason no other sport in the god damn world runs a condensed, super special snowflake format like college football does. People with this mentality just want to be handed a trophy without having to play the games.

Correct and you can go waaay back to last years nfl playoffs. It’s going to happen again in the nfl playoffs too.

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Let the G5 have their own separate National Championship bracket, similar to FCS, D2, and etc.

Top 16 P4 only.  1 plays 16 at home (on campus) all the way down to 8 vs 9.  Next round still on campus.  Down to four games at Bowl rotations.  Easy!

Hook’em!!!

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To be completely honest, I would like to see more ACC teams. I mean, the Texas A&M fightin Bulldogs were one of the best the SEC had to offer, while Miami was a middle of the road ACC team. The Hurricanes tore that aggy ass wide open, imagine what a top tier ACC team could do? 

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32 minutes ago, Gandalfish said:

Wouldn’t a better alternative be just put the 12 best teams in the 12 team tournament? 

Who decides the 12 best teams? Oklahoma and Bama looked like hammered dog shit. Aggy got pounded by an accaccacc also ran. I would prefer guaranteed spots, but just limiting the over hyped SEC. Maybe something like equal parts Big 10, ACC, and Big 12 while adding a couple of G5 slots for the SEC 

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36 minutes ago, Gandalfish said:

Wouldn’t a better alternative be just put the 12 best teams in the 12 team tournament? 

Contrary to Herbie, Finebaum, and other talking heads' notions; you don't know the 12 best teams until they play.

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3 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Contrary to Herbie, Finebaum, and other talking heads' notions; you don't know the 12 best teams until they play.

Exactly. These people were hyping aggy as possibly the best team in the country a few weeks ago and I’m not sure they’re in the top half of the SEC. Yay mega conferences!

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3 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Exactly. These people were hyping aggy as possibly the best team in the country a few weeks ago and I’m not sure they’re in the top half of the SEC. Yay mega conferences!

Wtf are you talking about? Aggy is one of the best SEC teams. Bama played for the SEC championship, and they run out a QB who is worse than most Surly posters. They got incredibly lucky to play another overhyped SEC loser in Oklahoma, or they would be home right now with the mighty Texum Bulldogs! Whoop! I'd rather see Duke or BYU than another secsecsec shit bag

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55 minutes ago, immamac said:

I bet the ratings for these two absolutely dogshit games will be low to incredibly low. 

Texas/Michigan will pull more views than anything from this weekend.

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22 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Who decides the 12 best teams? Oklahoma and Bama looked like hammered dog shit. Aggy got pounded by an accaccacc also ran. I would prefer guaranteed spots, but just limiting the over hyped SEC. Maybe something like equal parts Big 10, ACC, and Big 12 while adding a couple of G5 slots for the SEC 

Tulane and James Madison literally weren’t in the committee’s top 12. I’m saying that rule in the selection process is really dumb.

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34 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Contrary to Herbie, Finebaum, and other talking heads' notions; you don't know the 12 best teams until they play.

And you get to ignore results when they do play.

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

I bet the ratings for these two absolutely dogshit games will be low to incredibly low. 

This is the key take away that I posted prior. I think the when the number crunchers get a look at the Friday and early Saturday games and compare them the message will be clear. Big names and perceptions of quality competition is much, much, much more valuable than the idea of the Cinderella story in college football. The legal aspects regarding the inclusion of G5, and how to end that will be put in full gear because nothing drives business like the bottom line and bringing in lawyers to achieve better results financially is always an investment rich entities are willing to make for the ROI.

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24 minutes ago, Topper13 said:

Texas/Michigan will pull more views than anything from this weekend.

Texas and Florida (teams) pull good numbers, I think that one will show good numbers even though nobody gives a shit about aggie outside Houston metroplex. SEC rematch had no competition, SE numbers will be good, but NE and west coast won't show up much. The participation trophy games will be terrible numbers. 

VS two of the best known uniforms and brands in college football, one of which and in many cases both are extremely hated. 

Yes, yes it will.

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At this point there is no going back but 8 was the best number. Go to 16 with Top 2 conference champs getting top 2 seeds. All first round games at home. Adding 4 games and rewaromg conference champs with G5 or Duke. Games start Tuesday night with only 1 or 2 games overlapping.  

Indiana vs JMU

Georgia vs Tulane 

Ohio State vs Vandy

Tech vs Texas

Oregon vs BYU

Ole Miss vs ND

Aggy vs Miami

Ou vs Bama

Posted
15 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Fucking dumbass thread. Problem isn't the playoff. It's the teams these morons pick. And the inclusion of the minor league teams.

You’re always going to have morons picking teams if you have to go through a selection process instead of automatic qualifiers. That’s why it needs to be conference champions or something like it.

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29 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Fucking dumbass thread. Problem isn't the playoff. It's the teams these morons pick. And the inclusion of the minor league teams.

Which are dictated, again, by the rules that everyone agreed to. For the 10000th time, the anger at the committee is misplaced. They are placing teams based on those rules.

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19 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

You’re always going to have morons picking teams if you have to go through a selection process instead of automatic qualifiers. That’s why it needs to be conference champions or something like it.

The three highest ranked champions and the rest straight up ranking, base on a solid resume of who you played with a pulse.  No more auto G5 or ND sweetheart deal.

It should be a dog eat dog world.

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26 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Which are dictated, again, by the rules that everyone agreed to. For the 10000th time, the anger at the committee is misplaced. They are placing teams based on those rules.

100%. I don’t have any issue with the committee. They are morons picking teams by arbitrary judgements. That’s why we need to get away from committees and make teams win to get in. If the conferences are unbalanced, so be it. Win your conference and then go from there. If the SEC and big10 are the best conferences they shouldn’t have issue with that system.

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18 minutes ago, Gaffords said:

The three highest ranked champions and the rest straight up ranking, base on a solid resume of who you played with a pulse.  No more auto G5 or ND sweetheart deal.

It should be a dog eat dog world.

That’s still all subjective.

Posted
2 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

That’s still all subjective.

Sixteen teams. Top five SEC. Top five Big Ten. Top three ACC. Top three Big 12. Everyone follows the same tie break rules.

No at large bids.

Let's roll.

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Posted
1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Sixteen teams. Top five SEC. Top five Big Ten. Top three ACC. Top three Big 12. Everyone follows the same tie break rules.

No at large bids.

Let's roll.

I’m good with that too even though I think it’s too many teams. You and I are in complete agreement though that there shouldn’t be a committee or at large bids.

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Posted

There's no reason to shutout the G5. Just tell them to be one of the 16 best teams. No byes, first 2 rounds at homes. CFB will always be a beauty contest to pick and rank. That's never going away.

Posted
9 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

That’s still all subjective.

It will always be subjective. But 3 of the five champions are likely to be pretty good most years...  

Playing a weak schedule based on "tradition" shouldn't be rewarded *cough* ND. There have been many rivalries that have gone by the wayside and ND shouldn't have special treatment just because...  Let them get left out a few times because and I bet they aren't near as attached to the armed services as they act.

Or like others, buffing your schedule with the Holy Mary School for the Blind of the world should cost you instead of rewarding you for a *win.

Two G5s this year was ridiculous, plain and simple. 

And the list could go on, but you get the point.

Posted
3 hours ago, Topper13 said:

Texas/Michigan will pull more views than anything from this weekend.

early on new years eve too, i bet its going to make the broadcast partners for the playoff realize how much they are leaving on the table and we move to 24 soon 

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18 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

I’m good with that too even though I think it’s too many teams. You and I are in complete agreement though that there shouldn’t be a committee or at large bids.

Same. That puts Michigan, USC, BYU, Utah, Virginia and SMU in this year. Not the worst thing but obviously teams that are far from great. 

Posted
1 minute ago, 4th&Five said:

Same. That puts Michigan, USC, BYU, Utah, Virginia and SMU in this year. Not the worst thing but obviously teams that are far from great. 

At least they would have earned it instead of morons choosing from a hat

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8 minutes ago, Gaffords said:

It will always be subjective. But 3 of the five champions are likely to be pretty good most years...  

Playing a weak schedule based on "tradition" shouldn't be rewarded *cough* ND. There have been many rivalries that have gone by the wayside and ND shouldn't have special treatment just because...  Let them get left out a few times because and I bet they aren't near as attached to the armed services as they act.

Or like others, buffing your schedule with the Holy Mary School for the Blind of the world should cost you instead of rewarding you for a *win.

Two G5s this year was ridiculous, plain and simple. 

And the list could go on, but you get the point.

It’s not subjective if it’s conference winners or some sort of top however many from each. No teams chosen by a committee is what I want.

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Posted
1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

At least they would have earned it instead of morons choosing from a hat

Yeah. I’d also like 10 conference games so we can actually identify the best teams. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

One thing that doesn't get talked about enough is how badly preseason rankings fuck this whole process up. 

I honestly don't think they do.  They mess up the dullard discussion (LSU beating a "top 5" Clemson, etc.), occasionally AP voters, but not the CFP.

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