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Tomahawks (TLAMs) would instantly change the war.  TLAMS have a range of 1,500 miles and would have to be tied to the US target accusation and satellite guidance system to be fully functional...  

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Just now, Parliament said:

How many?  Enough to truly matter?

They run $2 to $3M each, so the question is how many would the US consider to be excess stockpiles? The US probably now has less than 3k of them with a slow replenish rate (100ish or so a year would be my guess) and so what would be a solid number to provide to be useful in theater? 

What would 50 do? I think people don't realize how scary Tomahawks are, even if they are land-launchrd platforms.  It would in essence be able to cover anything in this blue shaded area. 

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3 minutes ago, Laxtonto said:

They run $2 to $3M each, so the question is how many would the US consider to be excess stockpiles? The US probably now has less than 3k of them with a slow replenish rate (100ish or so a year would be my guess) and so what would be a solid number to provide to be useful in theater? 

What would 50 do? I think people don't realize how scary Tomahawks are, even if they are land-launchrd platforms.  It would in essence be able to cover anything in this blue shaded area. 

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I don't get the shading. Can they only fire east? St. Petersburg most definitely would be in range. 

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2 minutes ago, Bevo said:

I don't get the shading. Can they only fire east? St. Petersburg most definitely would be in range. 

Its just a simple illustration of how far 1500 miles is. The tool only allows so much shading at a time.

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Sounds like the pro-EU folks are going to win in Moldova over the pro-old school communists/socialists/USSR fans.  And Moscow is then fully prepared to try and generate violent unrest.

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

SIAP

 

What seems apparent to me is that Putin's Russia is very, very, very good at chess....until it's very, very, very bad at chess.

They are masterful at creating disruption, amplifying chaos (see their social media/trolling efforts against the west, which may be the best "bang for your buck" attacks in human history -- seriously, the mileage they've gotten out of something so easy and low-cost is incredible), and deception.

But they are terrible at the end-game stuff.  Putin has been incredibly successful in playing and manipulating Trump.....right up to the point when he's absolutely blowing it.  You always - ALWAYS - play up to Trump's ego.  You do not snub him.  And Trump respects leverage....and sees lack of leverage as weakness.  Russia had done incredibly well at this....until now.  In terms of influence and power over/with the US admin, and in terms of having leverage and then not having it, it's like watching them blow a 35-point lead.  And they are absolutely blowing it.  

Which thrills me.  But also objectively, it's amazing to watch.  They got everything they could have wanted in Trump getting elected a second time.  And they've now squandered that opportunity.

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