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36 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Lithuanian Foreign Minister: “The only European city where Putin should end up is The Hague” Kęstutis Budrys said this before the start of the EU Foreign Affairs Council meeting in Luxembourg. Budrys also stressed that he does not consider it possible for Putin’s plane to fly through Lithuanian airspace and advised the dictator to look for alternatives.

Interesting point. Hungary and every country it borders have both signed and ratified the Rome Statute, making them legally obligated to cooperate with the International Criminal Court, which has issued an arrest warrant for Putin. I understand that Hungary has signaled it plans to withdraw from the ICC, but hasn't done so yet. Still, every country that Putin would have to fly over is legally bound by the Statute's obligations. Someone show me a viable flightpath to get to Hungary if all of them had the balls to enforce the warrant.

(Green countries have both signed and ratified the Rome Statute.)
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Posted
25 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Jfc - Trump is tone deaf ignorant and apparently has Putin’s dick permanently imbedded in his mouth. 
 

I mean, it's been pretty damn obvious to everyone who has cared to look for 10 solid years.

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“The meeting between the US and Ukrainian presidents descended many times into a ‘shouting match,’ with Trump ‘cursing all the time,’ people familiar with the matter said,” according to the report.

Trump, in addition, reportedly insisted that Zelensky surrender the entire Donbas region to Russia, a point pushed by Putin during a White House call the day before. Putin reportedly told Trump on Thursday that he would forfeit “some small areas of the two southern frontline regions of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia” in exchange for it.

“During Friday’s meeting, Trump appeared to have adopted many of Putin’s talking points verbatim, even when they contradicted his own recent statements about Russia’s weaknesses

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2 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

“During Friday’s meeting, Trump appeared to have adopted many of Putin’s talking points verbatim, even when they contradicted his own recent statements about Russia’s weaknesses

So, old trial lawyer story/tip.

Every trial lawyer worth his salt has had to deal with this sort of person at least once (usually more than once): the idiot judge who simply agrees with the position of the last person who spoke.

When you are arguing a case in front of such a judge, and you realize that what you say doesn't matter, the evidence you present doesn't matter.....only the timing matters....it changes your whole strategy.  You could lay out the most lay-down, open-and-shut case in history, and the judge nods along, says "I think that's right," then turns to the other lawyer and says "any response?"  The other lawyer doesn't have to say more than "well that's not right, that's not what the law says."  No citation to any actual law, or evidence, but the judge nods and says "I think that's right."  You then realize that you're in trouble.....and what you need to do is find a way to say "nuh uh, I win."  And then hope the court runs out of time to hear anything else.

You realize that no matter what the law and facts are, you are dealing with a malleable moron, who has the memory and attention span of a lobotomized, previously brain-damaged gnat.

And we elected that guy president.  There's a strategy for dealing with him.  It's just such a fucking dumb one.

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Posted (edited)
45 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

There's a strategy for dealing with him. 

The strategy is to make Russia and Putin look weak, because Trump despises losing - it’s why in 2025 he still talks about crowd sizes from 2016, still talks about Biden, because he loathes that Biden beat him.

Trump only recently pivoted away from Putin because Putin clowned him after Alaska and because Ukraine is hammering the Russian economy.  Trump talks to Putin, is easily swayed, goes back to pushing Russian talking points because in his mind, ultimately he thinks Russia should be able to win - Trump has never been an underdog in his life.  He does not understand the saying about it’s not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog. He just can’t comprehend Russia not being able to steamroll Ukraine.

Trump desperately wants to be seen as a winner and only associate with winners, so he’s angry at Zelenskyy because the whole thing confuses him.

Ukraine has a strategy that Trump actually understands - Trump understands people waiting in line for gas, Russia not being able to sell gas, and Russia can’t stop it.

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2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

The strategy is to make Russia and Putin look weak, because Trump despises losing - it’s why in 2025 he still talks about crowd sizes from 2016, still talks about Biden, because he loathes that Biden beat him.

Trump only recently pivoted away from Putin because Putin clowned him after Alaska and because Ukraine is hammering the Russian economy.  Trump talks to Putin, is easily swayed, goes back to pushing Russian talking points because in his mind, ultimately he thinks Russia should be able to win - Trump has never been an underdog in his life.  He does not understand the saying about it’s not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog. He just can’t comprehend Russia not being able to steamroll Ukraine.

Trump desperately wants to be seen as a winner and only associate with winners, so he’s angry at Zelenskyy because the whole thing confuses him.

Bolded part for key truth.  He has no real understanding of what's actually happening.  His instinct is to side with the "bigger" bully, because that's what HE is, to his core.  And he just doesn't get it when David stands up and slays Goliath.  It doesn't compute.

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25 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Trump desperately wants to be seen as a winner and only associate with winners, so he’s angry at Zelenskyy because the whole thing confuses him.

Ukraine has a strategy that Trump actually understands - Trump understands people waiting in line for gas, Russia not being able to sell gas, and Russia can’t stop it.

22 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Bolded part for key truth.  He has no real understanding of what's actually happening.  His instinct is to side with the "bigger" bully, because that's what HE is, to his core.  And he just doesn't get it when David stands up and slays Goliath.  It doesn't compute.

I believe that Trump has crossed into the zone formerly occupied by Biden in the last few months of his presidency.

Ukraine needs to keep doing what they have done the past few months.  

5 hours ago, Bevo said:

No, I do not. 

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, PTINS said:

Ukraine needs to keep doing what they have done the past few months. 

Curious if you have any thoughts where or when the Russian economy/society really starts to break down if Ukraine maintains or increases their strikes?  If they start to completely finish off say the large tank at fuel depots, take out the processing towers at refineries, etc., it seems like the old saying about bankruptcy - slowly at first, then suddenly.

The Russian people in the largest cities need three things

  • Heat/Electricity
  • Food
  • Fuel to get to work, etc. (there is mass transit)

All three of those rely on oil and gas.

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Noel Reports:

“Russia has rejected Trump’s proposed plan to freeze the war along current front lines. “Russia’s negotiation stance, to halt troops at existing positions, remains unchanged,” Kremlin spokesman Peskov stated.“

“Ukraine’s General Staff has confirmed strikes on Russia’s Novokuybyshevsk oil refinery and Orenburg gas processing plant overnight on October 19. The Novokuybyshevsk refinery, processing 4.9M tons of crude annually, suffered hits to its primary refining units. At Orenburg, one of Russia’s largest gas plants, fires broke out following damage to gas treatment systems.”

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Posted
30 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Noel Reports:

“Russia has rejected Trump’s proposed plan to freeze the war along current front lines. “Russia’s negotiation stance, to halt troops at existing positions, remains unchanged,” Kremlin spokesman Peskov stated.“

“Ukraine’s General Staff has confirmed strikes on Russia’s Novokuybyshevsk oil refinery and Orenburg gas processing plant overnight on October 19. The Novokuybyshevsk refinery, processing 4.9M tons of crude annually, suffered hits to its primary refining units. At Orenburg, one of Russia’s largest gas plants, fires broke out following damage to gas treatment systems.”


If true, that’s good news for Ukraine. If Russia also refuses trilateral talks, that might be enough for Trump to reverse course again and provide more support to Ukraine. I still don’t think that means tomahawks but it should mean ATACMS and jets.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Bevo said:

If true, that’s good news for Ukraine. If Russia also refuses trilateral talks, that might be enough for Trump to reverse course again and provide more support to Ukraine. I still don’t think that means tomahawks but it should mean ATACMS and jets.

It probably embarrasses the shit out of him, given how much he’s been selling himself as a deal maker and settler of wars lately.

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Posted
1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

It probably embarrasses the shit out of him, given how much he’s been selling himself as a deal maker and settler of wars lately.

I mean, at least Israel threw that asshole a bone with a ceasefire of (checks notes) one week before they threw his ass under the bus.  

Putin won't even give this stupid motherfucker that. 

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