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2020 Presidential Election -- Biden v Trump: Sleepy Joe vs Dopey Don

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1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

Wulaw, you're a decent guy. Maybe even a good dude.

But if you don't start to use the MultiQuote feature there's going to be a problem.

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So like this?

 

52 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

That'll be treefiddy.

Or this? 

 

53 minutes ago, The Dog said:

TIL how to multi quote in Tapa.

Thanks. I think I get the point of this- now will everyone have a notification that I quoted them?  Did you get two? 

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3 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

When brisket finds his meds you need to take a double portion from him. 

Quite frankly, that’s a lame retort. Be better.

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1 minute ago, JimmyJames said:

Quite frankly, that’s a lame retort. Be better.

Such an unserious post deserved such a reply. I thought it was funny (still do), but I guess not every joke lands. 
Seriously man, Russia didn’t hack 80,000 ballots in Detroit and change those votes. No way. It’s crazy talk. 

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8 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Such an unserious post deserved such a reply. I thought it was funny (still do), but I guess not every joke lands. 
Seriously man, Russia didn’t hack 80,000 ballots in Detroit and change those votes. No way. It’s crazy talk. 

Well maybe you’re right. Maybe you’re right. Just strange is all. All the polls were right, except in three certain critical states, that just so happened to change the election by 80k votes, and changed the world. 

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You are off your meds again. None of that is going to happen. Our system is stronger than one man. 

Believing something as foolish as that is exactly the predicate for formerly functional countries to collapse into authoritarianism.

The rule of law is only as strong as the will of the powerful to follow it. He doesn’t, and won’t. And he has an entire political party that is completely loyal to him. History shows us plenty of examples of that being more than enough to bring down a country.

Stop believing that. The institutions have failed. All that’s left is the vote, and that will be an uphill climb against fucking STATED INTENT TO LIMIT AND INTERFERE WITH IT. When someone tells you who they are and what they are going to do, believe them.

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Quite frankly, that’s a lame retort. Be better.

Yeah - jokes about mental illness and “being off meds” aren’t very funny to anyone who has seen the reality of mental illness.

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5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


Believing something as foolish as that is exactly the predicate for formerly functional countries to collapse into authoritarianism.

The rule of law is only as strong as the will of the powerful to follow it. He doesn’t, and won’t. And he has an entire political party that is completely loyal to him. History shows us plenty of examples of that being more than enough to bring down a country.

Stop believing that. The institutions have failed. All that’s left is the vote, and that will be an uphill climb against fucking STATED INTENT TO LIMIT AND INTERFERE WITH IT. When someone tells you who they are and what they are going to do, believe them.

Want to make another bet?  You can lose just like our Alabama bet. We have 225 years of peaceful transfer of power. That orange Buffon isn’t gonna end that streak. 

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2 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:


Yeah - jokes about mental illness and “being off meds” aren’t very funny to anyone who has seen the reality of mental illness.

Not proud of it but those in medicine tend to have a pretty damn morbid sense of humor.  Helps deal with the constant bad news a lot of us see.  Not saying that makes it ok, just an observation from the inside.  

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1 minute ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Want to make another bet?  You can lose just like our Alabama bet. We have 225 years of peaceful transfer of power. That orange Buffon isn’t gonna end that streak. 

I agree with you and hope you’re right. The orange buffoon has other ideas though. Since I don’t know, that’s exactly what he’s said. 

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Just now, JimmyJames said:

I agree with you and hope you’re right. The orange buffoon has other ideas though. Since I don’t know, that’s exactly what he’s said. 

You know he's right. Go have another drink.

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2 minutes ago, The Dog said:

You know he's right. Go have another drink.

You are a wise and just man. I agree completely with this entire post. Good man. Salud.

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The republican Party has failed this country. We have had three colossal economic failures, every single one at the tail end of republican administrations. 1929, 2008, and 2020. These are undisputed facts. They have prevented this great country from reaching its unlimited potential because they are failures and corrupt and the elites want to divide us. First black v white now red v blue.  They have lied to and failed us and continue to do so. Anyone who continues to support them is an enemy of America. Most are ignorant selfish dipshits, many are my friends and family. Even the relatively off apparently don’t realize how bad they are being fucked over. Their taxes support this shitshow, not the ultra wealthy. The owners just sit back and laugh at you, while you dutifully paying your third. You are sheep.

Spread the word. 

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Want to make another bet?  You can lose just like our Alabama bet. We have 225 years of peaceful transfer of power. That orange Buffon isn’t gonna end that streak. 

You’re living in fantasy land if you don’t think he’s going to fucking try.

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Define peaceful transfer of power. Post-election politically motivated violence seems almost inevitable. Everything is so ramped you right now and it seems likely to become more intense. I’d expect a fair amount.
 

No matter the result of the election,  mainstream voices will be calling it illegitimate. No matter the result, foreign countries will keep picking at everything and amplifying the chaos. We’ve already seen that Trump largely traffics in conspiracies and division and I’d expect a Biden win would only intensify this. At a minimum, multiple acts of “lone wolf” violence seems like a sure thing.
 

That’s a bit different than Trump’s secret army trying to capture Biden, which is pretty unlikely, but no longer completely impossible.

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6 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

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You could drive from the Idaho/Canada border to the beach in Georgia without hitting a Democrat state. But the democratic would have won the electoral college 373-165.

Still would put Texas as pink though.

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Usually, more people than that would show up just to see Air Force One.  Trump's appearance is even a drag on the viewership of the plane.

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10 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Want to make another bet?  You can lose just like our Alabama bet. We have 225 years of peaceful transfer of power. That orange Buffon isn’t gonna end that streak. 

So you honestly believe that his tweet about postponing the election was just to take attention away from the abysmal GDP numbers and NOT a dog whistle to his supporters that unrest, trickeration and outright theft are in the works to either ensure his re-election or refuse to leave office due to an "unfair" vote?

Because I think that is exactly what he did.

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2 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

So you honestly believe that his tweet about postponing the election was just to take attention away from the abysmal GDP numbers and NOT a dog whistle to his supporters that unrest, trickeration and outright theft are in the works to either ensure his re-election or refuse to leave office due to an "unfair" vote?

Because I think that is exactly what he did.

It doesn’t matter. It’s over. And nobody will care. He will be an object of scorn and ridicule when he gets his head bashed in. 

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10 hours ago, Bama Chick said:


Yeah - jokes about mental illness and “being off meds” aren’t very funny to anyone who has seen the reality of mental illness.

Good grief, if we can't make fun of the crazy people then we might as well shut down the internet.  Or at least message boards.

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What happens when Trump jokes about his people needing to guard polling places during the election? You know those fine Boogaloo or Proud Boys with their ARs playing as Patriots at polling places. 

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Want to make another bet?  You can lose just like our Alabama bet. We have 225 years of peaceful transfer of power. That orange Buffon isn’t gonna end that streak. 

225 years? The presidential election of 1860 would like a word with you.
I agree with you and hope you’re right. The orange buffoon has other ideas though. Since I don’t know, that’s exactly what he’s said. 


You’re living in fantasy land if you don’t think he’s going to fucking try.


All of the above. Is it a stone-cold lock? No. Is it materially likely, as in a non-zero chance that involves a real integer? You know that’s the case. And just that level of risk is unacceptable and indicates that we are turbo fucked.

I mean, probably 95% of the time, drivers with a .12 BAC get home safely. Do you think that level of risk is acceptable, so you’d let him drive your kids home? Society sure doesn’t - we’d arrest him on the spot. Trump has created, fomented, and repeatedly stated his intention to up that risk. Ignore it at your peril.

We’re in a car driven by a staggering drunk. Don’t tell me “nothing bad will happen.”

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34 minutes ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

What happens when Trump jokes about his people needing to guard polling places during the election? You know those fine Boogaloo or Proud Boys with their ARs playing as Patriots at polling places. 

 

Trump's not talked about it...yet....but it's already happening.  

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/18/us/Voting-republicans-trump.html

 

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The Republican program, which has gained steam in recent weeks, envisions recruiting up to 50,000 volunteers in 15 key states to monitor polling places and challenge ballots and voters deemed suspicious. That is part of a $20 million plan that also allots millions to challenge lawsuits by Democrats and voting-rights advocates seeking to loosen state restrictions on balloting. The party and its allies also intend to use advertising, the internet and Mr. Trump’s command of the airwaves to cast Democrats as agents of election theft.

 

History keeps repeating itself.  

 

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The efforts are bolstered by a 2018 federal court ruling that for the first time in nearly four decades allows the national Republican Party to mount campaigns against purported voter fraud without court approval. The court ban on Republican Party voter-fraud operations was imposed in 1982, and then modified in 1986 and again in 1990, each time after courts found instances of Republicans intimidating or working to exclude minority voters in the name of preventing fraud. The party was found to have violated it yet again in 2004.

 

Edited by Francisco 2.0

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Are any groups working to do the opposite: that is, prevent these Republican fucksticks from intimidating voters? Because I’d be all in on that.

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I can't wait to see the proudboys/boogaloo folks at polling places in November.  You can't wear a Biden shirt to a voting location by law, but you can bring an assault rifle?  Yeah, that's gonna go over well.  

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8 minutes ago, Larry T. Spider said:

100% chance of legit brawls at polling places this November.

If I were a fascist clinging to power, I would organize aggressive “polling monitor” groups to stand guard outside voting locations in minority-heavy areas. Open brawling is not the goal - that shit makes the news, inspires opposition, and leads to investigations. Violence creates opposition out of people who would otherwise support you or at least stand aside. The goal is to simultaneously appear menacing to minority voters but as legitimate observers of Law & Order to Karens, “Gary Johnson” voters, brow-furrowing Republicans, and other deplorable-adjacents. 

My goal is to prevent those assholes from being effective. Show up to the polls. Advise voters of their rights. Offer rides to the polling places and an escort to the registration table. Wave a bar card around, sending GOP goons scurrying like minor vampires facing down a crucifix. And shoot double-barrel birds at fascist intimidators while enabling underrepresented Americans to exercise their constitutional rights.

My question is: is there an organization doing this kind of work? Because I’ll donate time and money to that kind of effort.

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I think that in this environment people will confront the people standing outside of polling places to intimidate. Neither side is backing down right now. 
 

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2 minutes ago, Voldemort86 said:

I’d like to see one of those losers try to intimidate me from voting. Go ahead and try.

They’re all fucking talk.  They’re not gonna intimidate shit.  

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It’s not about y’all. College grads with jobs and an understanding of politics and their rights are not the intended audience. They will seek to intimidate poor and minority voters. 

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7 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

They’re all fucking talk.  They’re not gonna intimidate shit.  

Exqctly

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1 minute ago, BrickHorn said:

It’s not about y’all. College grads with jobs and an understanding of politics and their rights are not the intended audience. They will seek to intimidate poor and minority voters. 

I used to vote in the loop in St. Louis. It’s nelly’s old stomping grounds. The idea that a couple MAGA dorks could intimidate that crowd is laughably absurd. They’d Shit their pants. 

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4 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

It’s not about y’all. College grads with jobs and an understanding of politics and their rights are not the intended audience. They will seek to intimidate poor and minority voters. 

It is known.  There will be enough good guys to curb those tactics.  In today’s day and age word spreads fast and it won’t fly on any large scale.  
 

edit: it’s awesome that you think we surly CR morons have an understanding of politics. Thanks?

Edited by ChiTownDoc

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1 minute ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I used to vote in the loop in St. Louis. It’s nelly’s old stomping grounds. The idea that a couple MAGA dorks could intimidate that crowd is laughably absurd. They’d Shit their pants. 

E..I..  motherfuckers!!! 

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4 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

E..I..  motherfuckers!!! 

I don’t know this reference. I wish I did. 
 

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1 minute ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I used to vote in the loop in St. Louis. It’s nelly’s old stomping grounds. The idea that a couple MAGA dorks could intimidate that crowd is laughably absurd. They’d Shit their pants. 

The Loop is more that Nelly’s hood. It’s also a hip college area and home to one of the top universities in the country. 

Contrast that with a place like Ferguson or East St Louis. A bunch of white folks show up there, looking official and harassing people, and voters might just stay home to avoid the hassle. 

It will be even worse in places like the Deep South, but very few of those states are contested. Georgia is where I’d expect the most problems. And left-leaning Hispanic areas of Texas. 

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1 minute ago, BrickHorn said:

The Loop is more that Nelly’s hood. It’s also a hip college area and home to one of the top universities in the country. 

Contrast that with a place like Ferguson or East St Louis. A bunch of white folks show up there, looking official and harassing people, and voters might just stay home to avoid the hassle. 

It will be even worse in places like the Deep South, but very few of those states are contested. Georgia is where I’d expect the most problems. And left-leaning Hispanic areas of Texas. 

Georgia I could buy that being a problem possibly. East St Louis?  Nah man, I believe the MAGA dorks would fear the citizenry there about 100 times more than the citizenry would fear the MAGA dorks. 
I hope y’all feel really silly when Trump loses by 7-13  points and leaves office with his tail tucked between his legs. Because y’all are being really silly. 

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2 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

The Loop is more that Nelly’s hood. It’s also a hip college area and home to one of the top universities in the country. 

Contrast that with a place like Ferguson or East St Louis. A bunch of white folks show up there, looking official and harassing people, and voters might just stay home to avoid the hassle. 

It will be even worse in places like the Deep South, but very few of those states are contested. Georgia is where I’d expect the most problems. And left-leaning Hispanic areas of Texas. 

Voter intimidation is not the problem in south Texas and wont be this fall. The problem has always been voter apathy. Hopefully that changes this fall. 

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4 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

 

I used to know 2 Nelly songs- must be the money and country grammar. Now I know 3. Thank you.  It sounds just like country grammar to me. 

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8 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Voter intimidation is not the problem in south Texas and wont be this fall. The problem has always been voter apathy. Hopefully that changes this fall. 

Yep. 
 

Seriously- in a map of the entire United States, Georgia (and maybe North Carolina) are the only places I see this as even remotely plausible. 

Dead on right on Tejas. 

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13 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Georgia I could buy that being a problem possibly. East St Louis?  Nah man, I believe the MAGA dorks would fear the citizenry there about 100 times more than the citizenry would fear the MAGA dorks. 

Your “tough neighborhood” view is naive. Street gangs, drug dealers, etc. — basically all the groups that make a neighborhood intimidating to would-be gentrifiers — aren’t voting. And it’s not about intimidating them. It’s about scaring away good people who have understandable aversion to authority and the legal system, because they don’t understand it, because people they care about have been run over by it, and because it’s never brought anything good to them or their neighborhood. 

I’m familiar with those kinds of neighborhoods. (The Loop is frankly a laughable example). And I’ve seen how easily otherwise tough, poor black people can be intimidated by the mere appearance of legal authority. It’s the result of a history of oppression and inequity. Voter intimidation is a real threat. Ignoring it because Ice Cube could beat up Ben Shapiro is stupid.

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2 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Yep. 
 

Seriously- in a map of the entire United States, Georgia (and maybe North Carolina) are the only places I see this as even remotely plausible. 

Dead on right on Tejas. 

It will happen in Georgia. Kemp will do whatever he can to intimidate his black constituents and his racist white supporters will applaud him for it. 

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16 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Voter intimidation is not the problem in south Texas and wont be this fall. The problem has always been voter apathy. Hopefully that changes this fall. 

Apathy and intimidation work hand-in-hand. The less motivated a voter, the easier it is to scare them away from the ballot box. 

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