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Pairings and tee-times for Thursday/Friday are up

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Thursday, No. 1 / Friday, No. 10 (All times ET)

6:50 a.m. / 12:10 p.m. – Brandon Wu, Scarsdale, N.Y.; Curtis Luck, Australia; Ryan Fox, New Zealand

7:01 a.m. / 12:21 p.m. – Joel Dahmen, Clarkston, Wash.; Rasmus Hojgaard, Denmark; J.T. Poston, Hickory, N.C.

7:12 a.m. / 12:32 p.m. – Chez Reavie, Scottsdale, Ariz.; Sung Kang, Republic of Korea; Kevin Streelman, Wheaton, Ill.

7:23 a.m. / 12:43 p.m. – Jazz Janewattananond, Thailand; Kevin Na, Las Vegas, Nev.; Matt Wallace, England

7:34 a.m. / 12:54 p.m. – Brendon Todd, Watkinsville, Ga.; Harris English, Moultrie, Ga.; (a) Davis Thompson, St. Simons Island, Ga.

7:45 a.m. / 1:05 p.m. – Paul Waring, England; Victor Perez, France; Christiaan Bezuidenhout, South Africa

7:56 a.m. / 1:16 p.m. – Hideki Matsuyama, Japan; Patrick Reed, Houston, Texas; Jordan Spieth, Dallas,Texas

8:07 a.m. / 1:27 p.m. – Collin Morikawa, La Canada Flintridge, Calif.; Justin Thomas, Louisville, Ky.; Tiger Woods, Jupiter, Fla.

8:18 a.m. / 1:38 p.m. – Matt Kuchar, Sea Island, Ga.; Lucas Glover, Jupiter, Fla.; Graeme McDowell, Northern Ireland

 

8:29 a.m. / 1:49 p.m. – Charles Howell III, Orlando, Fla.; Ryo Ishikawa, Japan; Max Homa, Valencia, Calif.

8:40 a.m. / 2 p.m. – Kurt Kitayama, Chico, Calif.; Robert MacIntyre, Scotland; (a) Sandy Scott, Scotland

8:51 a.m. / 2:11 p.m. – Eddie Pepperell, England; Troy Merritt, Eagle, Idaho; Sami Valimaki, Finland 

12:10 p.m. / 6:50 a.m. – Shaun Norris, South Africa; Rory Sabbatini, Slovakia; Chan Kim, Gilbert, Ariz.

12:21 p.m. / 7:01 a.m. – Adam Long, St. Louis, Mo.; (a) Eduard Rousaud, Spain; Mike Lorenzo-Vera, France

12:32 p.m. / 7:12 a.m. – (a) Lukas Michel, Australia; Lucas Herbert, Australia; Matt Jones, Australia

12:43 p.m. / 7:23 a.m. – Ryan Palmer, Colleyville, Texas; Si Woo Kim, Republic of Korea; Rafa Cabrera Bello, Spain

12:54 p.m. / 7:34 a.m. – Joaquin Niemann, Chile; Sungjae Im, Republic of Korea; Cameron Champ, Sacramento, Calif.

1:05 p.m. / 7:45 a.m. – Gary Woodland, Topeka, Kan.; (a) Andy Ogletree, Little Rock, Miss.; Shane Lowry, Republic of Ireland

1:16 p.m. / 7:56 a.m. – Bryson DeChambeau, Clovis, Calif.; Dustin Johnson, Jupiter, Fla.; Tony Finau, Salt Lake City, Utah

1:27 p.m. / 8:07 a.m. – Phil Mickelson, Rancho Santa Fe, Calif.; Paul Casey, England; Jon Rahm, Spain

1:38 p.m. / 8:18 a.m. – Rickie Fowler, Murrieta, Calif.; Matthew Wolff, Agoura Hills, Calif.; Viktor Hovland, Norway

1:49 p.m. / 8:29 a.m. – Romain Langasque, France; Davis Riley, Hattiesburg, Miss.; Will Zalatoris, Plano, Texas

2 p.m. / 8:40 a.m. – Matthias Schwab, Austria; (a) Cole Hammer, Houston, Texas; Alex Noren, Sweden

2:11 p.m. / 8:51 a.m. – Connor Syme, Scotland; Paul Barjon, France; Marty Jertson, Phoenix, Ariz. 

Thursday, No. 10 / Friday, No. 1 (All times ET)

6:50 a.m. / 12:10 p.m. – Daniel Balin, White Plains, N.Y.; Greyson Sigg, Augusta, Ga.; J.C. Ritchie, South Africa

7:01 a.m. / 12:21 p.m. – (a) Ricky Castillo, Yorba Linda, Calif.; Brian Harman, Sea Island, Ga.; Andy Sullivan, England

7:12 a.m. / 12:32 p.m. – Tom Lewis, England; (a) Preston Summerhays, Scottsdale, Ariz.; Jason Kokrak, Hudson, Ohio

7:23 a.m. / 12:43 p.m. – Martin Kaymer, Germany; Jimmy Walker, Boerne, Texas; (a) John Augenstein, Owensboro, Ky.

7:34 a.m. / 12:54 p.m. – Tyler Duncan, Columbus, Ind.; Thomas Detry, Belgium; Erik van Rooyen, South Africa

7:45 a.m. / 1:05 p.m. – Tyrrell Hatton, England; Henrik Stenson, Sweden; Danny Willett, England

7:56 a.m. / 1:16 p.m. – Webb Simpson, Charlotte, N.C.; Sergio Garcia, Spain; Jason Day, Australia

8:07 a.m. / 1:27 p.m. – Rory McIlroy, Northern Ireland; Adam Scott, Australia; Justin Rose, England

8:18 a.m. / 1:38 p.m. – Ian Poulter, England; Patrick Cantlay, Jupiter, Fla.; Steve Stricker, Madison, Wis.

8:29 a.m. / 1:49 p.m. – Adam Hadwin, Canada; Mackenzie Hughes, Canada; Corey Conners, Canada

8:40 a.m. / 2 p.m. – Sebastian Munoz, Colombia; (a) Chun An Yu, Chinese Taipei; Justin Harding, South Africa

8:51 a.m. / 2:11 p.m. – Scott Hend, Australia; Dan McCarthy, Syracuse, N.Y.; Ryan Vermeer, Omaha, Neb. 

12:10 p.m. / 6:50 a.m. – Richy Werenski, West Palm Beach, Fla.; Taylor Pendrith, Canada; Renato Paratore, Italy

12:21 p.m. / 7:01 a.m. – Jim Herman, Palm City, Fla.; (a) John Pak, Scotch Plains, N.J.; Thomas Pieters, Belgium

12:32 p.m. / 7:12 a.m. – Michael Thompson, Sea Island, Ga.; Andrew Putnam, University Place, Wash.; Chesson Hadley, Raleigh, N.C.

12:43 p.m. / 7:23 a.m. – Bernd Wiesberger, Austria; Marc Leishman, Australia; Cameron Smith, Australia

12:54 p.m. / 7:34 a.m. – Lee Westwood, England; (a) James Sugrue, Republic of Ireland; Bubba Watson, Bagdad, Fla.

1:05 p.m. / 7:45 a.m. – Matt Fitzpatrick, England; Daniel Berger, Jupiter, Fla.; Branden Grace, South Africa

1:16 p.m. / 7:56 a.m. – Tommy Fleetwood, England; Kevin Kisner, Aiken, S.C.; Abraham Ancer, Mexico

1:27 p.m. / 8:07 a.m. – Louis Oosthuizen, South Africa; Zach Johnson, Cedar Rapids, Iowa; Keegan Bradley, Woodstock, Vt.

1:38 p.m. / 8:18 a.m. – Billy Horschel, Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla.; Xander Schauffele, San Diego, Calif.; Brandt Snedeker, Nashville, Tenn.

1:49 p.m. / 8:29 a.m. – Shugo Imahira, Japan; Byeong Hun An, Republic of Korea; (a) Takumi Kanaya, Japan

2 p.m. / 8:40 a.m. – Danny Lee, New Zealand; Mark Hubbard, Denver, Colo.; Lanto Griffin, Blacksburg, Va.

2:11 p.m. / 8:51 a.m. – Stephan Jaeger, Germany; Lee Hodges, Elkmont, Ala.; Adrian Otaegui, Spain

 

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Rough will be very interesting if they don't trim before Thursday.  The lack of spectators makes it even more difficult

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4 hours ago, Wally Fairway said:

Pairings and tee-times for Thursday/Friday are up

 

Spieth has to just love his group.

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So if the last group tees off at 2:11, a 4.5 hour round has them finishing at 6:40 pm (ish).  Sunset is right at 7:00 pm.  That's a hard fucking golf course.

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17 hours ago, alincoln said:

US Open has a sense of humor!

I'm disappointed that Brooks isn't playing - I'd have loved to see the Brooks, Bryson, DJ pairing - the pairings aren't as goofy as they used to be, all lefty's, all hyphenated names, all 2nd place in a major the prior year, etc

I think the only you-guess'ems should be where do you think the cut-line will be, and winning score
I'm picking +7 (2006 at Winged Foot is was +9
I'm picking +3 to win (2006 Ogilvy won at +5)

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Brandel Chamblee was on The Ticket today.  he said he's gonna come out tonight on the Golf Channel and pick Webb Simpson to win.  he's 14th in Total Driving and 4th in Total Driving Efficiency.

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On 9/15/2020 at 12:53 PM, alincoln said:

Rough will be very interesting if they don't trim before Thursday.  The lack of spectators makes it even more difficult

Saw a tweet that somebody measured a blade of grass from the rough at more than 12 inches!

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12 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

Brandel Chamblee was on The Ticket today.  he said he's gonna come out tonight on the Golf Channel and pick Webb Simpson to win.  he's 14th in Total Driving and 4th in Total Driving Efficiency.

Webb was the first person I took in my DraftKings team.  He hits the ball straight, and controls his game pretty well.  Built my team around him. 

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4 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Saw a tweet that somebody measured a blade of grass from the rough at more than 12 inches!

Heard an interview with Phil, said he'd have to change how he plays - used to be able to aim your misses for the crowd and know that the rough would be trampled down, now the rough is the rough

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below is the streaming/TV schedule for the first two days.  i bought Peacock for Premier League soccer, so i'll be able to watch that.  the US Open website will be good, too.

2020 U.S. Open streaming schedule

Thursday, September 17
First Round (TV coverage): 7:30 a.m.-2 p.m. ET (Golfchannel.com)
First Round (TV Coverage): 2-5 p.m.ET (NBCSports.com)
First Round (Online only): 5-7 p.m. ET (Peacock)
Featured Groups (Online only): 7:55 a.m.-6:30 p.m. ET (usopen.com)
Featured Holes (Online only): 8:10 a.m.-6:45 p.m. ET (usopen.com)

Friday, September 18
Second Round (Online only): 7:30-9:30 a.m. ET (Peacock)
Second Round (TV Coverage): 9:30 a.m.-4 p.m. ET (Golfchannel.com)
Second Round (Online only): 4-7 p.m.ET (NBCSports.com)
Featured Groups (Online only): 7:55 a.m.-6:30 p.m. ET (usopen.com)
Featured Holes (Online only): 8:10 a.m.-6:45 p.m. ET (usopen.com)

Edited by Jive Turkey

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8 hours ago, Wally Fairway said:

I'm disappointed that Brooks isn't playing - I'd have loved to see the Brooks, Bryson, DJ pairing - the pairings aren't as goofy as they used to be, all lefty's, all hyphenated names, all 2nd place in a major the prior year, etc

I think the only you-guess'ems should be where do you think the cut-line will be, and winning score
I'm picking +7 (2006 at Winged Foot is was +9
I'm picking +3 to win (2006 Ogilvy won at +5)

I think someone will figure it out. I'll go -2 for the winner. Maybe +6 for the cut. The tour is so much more talented than it was in 2006.

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8 hours ago, alincoln said:

Does the tree removal since 2006 make the winning score lower (i.e., more opportunities for recovery shots)?

I don't know. A dear friend of our family was the president at Oakmont C.C. when they removed over 10,000 trees.

https://www.usga.org/articles/2016/06/oakmont-restored.html

I don't remember it making the OCC course easier, or scores lower. I think if the purpose is to make the course truer to its original design then I am all for it. Is that what they did with Winged Foot? I did watch the Golf Channel the other night and I think I heard them say they restored the greens to their original sizes, and restored the natural rolling nature to parts of the course as they had become overgrown.

I don't play golf but once, or twice, a year. I like it. I enjoy the major tournaments, as I do for tennis. I flew over Winged Foot a couple years back and it looked really nice. 

Edited by PittsburghTiger

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On 9/14/2020 at 3:55 PM, Llano Estacado said:

Field or DJ?

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I’m taking the field.

Everyone would take the field. A better bet would be taking the top 5 on that list versus the field. 

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5 minutes ago, VirginiaLonghorn said:

Spieth off to a sizzling start .. as in crash ‘n burn.

Oh dear. There was footage this week of Jordan Spieth on the driving range looking somewhat lost. It wasn’t helped by him being slotted next to Dustin Johnson, who was crushing drives into the ether. Now we see live coverage of Spieth taking the dreaded cart ride back to the tee after losing his ball following a crooked drive at 11. That’ll be three off the tee. And it comes after a bogey at 1. All rather sad for the three-time major champ, who has slumped to 63rd in the current world rankings.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2020/sep/17/us-open-golf-2020-first-round-live

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Just now, VirginiaLonghorn said:

The befuddled grin as he rode back to the tee was telling.  Probably already thinking about where he’s having dinner Saturday night ... in Dallas.

Probably wishing he went out early tomorrow instead of today so he could have dinner in Dallas on Friday night.

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45 minutes ago, VirginiaLonghorn said:

Spieth off to a sizzling start .. as in crash ‘n burn.

His game has been shit since he got married.

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1 hour ago, VirginiaLonghorn said:

Spieth off to a sizzling start .. as in crash ‘n burn.

Good news, Spieth is back to EVEN after 3 consecutive birdies... 😂 

 

 

Edited by LTtxfan

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On 9/14/2020 at 3:41 PM, Jive Turkey said:

it won't be Scottie Scheffler.  he got the rona.  that sucks.  he impressed at the PGA.  

Nice tweet if yah missed it... Get Well Scottie!!

 

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1 hour ago, alincoln said:

Probably wishing he went out early tomorrow instead of today so he could have dinner in Dallas on Friday night.

Because there’s no good restaurants 25 miles away in NYC

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2 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Because there’s no good restaurants 25 miles away in NYC

There are good restaurants in NYC?  Good to know.

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Rory hot early. Thought it was kind of silly that Schauffele had better odds going in but I held my tongue. I don't see Xander winning a US Open as his first major. He can barely win on the rest of the tour. 

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16 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

That is funny.  But he ain’t winning if the other 6 holes are doubles. Actually +12 might be good enough for a Top 10 finish. 

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1 minute ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Actually +12 might be good enough for a Top 10 finish. 

 

On 9/16/2020 at 7:23 AM, Wally Fairway said:

I'm disappointed that Brooks isn't playing - I'd have loved to see the Brooks, Bryson, DJ pairing - the pairings aren't as goofy as they used to be, all lefty's, all hyphenated names, all 2nd place in a major the prior year, etc

I think the only you-guess'ems should be where do you think the cut-line will be, and winning score
I'm picking +7 (2006 at Winged Foot is was +9
I'm picking +3 to win (2006 Ogilvy won at +5)

Nah. People keep saying how hard these courses are and guys keep tearing them up regardless. Obviously WF is going to get harder over the weekend but no one is winning the US Open at 5 over par anymore.

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5 minutes ago, ztejas said:

 

Nah. People keep saying how hard these courses are and guys keep tearing them up regardless. Obviously WF is going to get harder over the weekend but no one is winning the US Open at 5 over par anymore.

Marks post for 5pm Sunday...

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31 minutes ago, ztejas said:

 

Nah. People keep saying how hard these courses are and guys keep tearing them up regardless. Obviously WF is going to get harder over the weekend but no one is winning the US Open at 5 over par anymore.

This isn’t Harding Park and merely the PGA. This is the USGA, which attempts to make a horror show for its best players every year, on one of the most historically hard courses ever. 

I’ll bet you a lot of money nobody is finishing under par. 

Edited by Dr. Beeper
HP, not Chambers Bay

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35 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

Marks post for 5pm Sunday...

 

15 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

This isn’t Harding Park and merely the PGA. This is the USGA, which attempts to make a horror show for its best players every year, on one of the most historically hard courses ever. 

I’ll bet you a lot of money nobody is finishing under par. 

There are 11 guys under par right now and half the field hasn't teed off yet. In 2006 only one player shot below par at -1 after the first 18. 

There's plenty chance I'm wrong and the other 3 days are just brutal compared to today, or some weather blows in, but I'm not seeing it. These guys are almost playing a different game right now. I'm guessing the USGA is looking at equipment or ball changes so every course on tour doesn't have to extend to 8,000 yards. 

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1 minute ago, ztejas said:

 

There are 11 guys under par right now and half the field hasn't teed off yet. In 2006 only one player shot below par at -1 after the first 18. 

There's plenty chance I'm wrong and the other 3 days are just brutal compared to today, or some weather blows in, but I'm not seeing it. These guys are almost playing a different game right now. I'm guessing the USGA is looking at equipment or ball changes so every course on tour doesn't have to extend to 8,000 yards. 

Okay, so how much are we betting?

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