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5 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

Looks like the world is starting to understand that Sark is an overrated offensive “genius”.

When he is on and takes what a defense gives him he is brilliant. I give him a C- the rest of the time. I think I read in here there have been only two games since he has coached at Texas where we scored a TD first against an opponent. wtf? 

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2 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

When he is on and takes what a defense gives him he is brilliant. I give him a C- the rest of the time. I think I read in here there have been only two games since he has coached at Texas where we scored a TD first against an opponent. wtf? 

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I disagree. He's a F- most of the time and maybe once a season produces a B+. 

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9 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

Looks like the world is starting to understand that Sark is an overrated offensive “genius”.

Maybe he’s just devastated that one of his QB prodigies, Mark Sanchez, nearly died and it’s weighing heavily on Sark’s mind.  

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10 hours ago, westexhorn said:

He used to have a few head scratchers per season from what I remember.  He tried his best to eat boogers this game but big dick PK wouldn't let this pussy lose.

We lucked out of the Sark Specials in 2023. We got lucky and beat K State thanks to some really bad coordinator level decisions on KSU's end and still needed them to inexplicably shank an XP. We were also lucky to get out of the UH game alive with a very fortunate spot call from the refs. Last year it happened in the Georgia game at home and we got embarassed. I think we maybe just lucked out of what was supposed to be the Sark Special for this year (Florida sort of counts given how embarassingly unprepared we were, but they have talent) thanks to Kentucky's coaches seemingly having mini strokes at several points, most notably at the 1 yard line in OT.

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3 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

It’s crazy to me that schools keep doing this. Nothing through 4 seasons should have led anyone to believe that we had to lock this guy up with big money. Same with Franklin and Norvell and on and on. 

We need to act like we are on a budget and have a mid-tier team that cannot afford to make a bad HC hire. That requires our BMDs to accept certain realities. They want their ego stroked more than they want to walk into a country club with every member knowing we just won a MNC or more than one? 
 

a great OC can pivot. Take what a defense gives them. Take the QB he has and scheme for that QB. If Lamar Jackson walked into the building you want your OC to maximize that guy’s amazing abilities. Not go “well I prefer to work with solely pocket passers.” We have arch messed up so much he is not even using the one ability he does have that many QBs do not: wheels. 
 

as far as Sark looking like a ghost on the sideline: I care about people beyond the sport. Beyond winning. I want him to be ok on a personal level also. But the mixture of pride and stubbornness he has makes me also want to kick his ass in a caring way, 

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That’s a troubling sign. After the week before last when he was like no one can win in the swamp bullshit. The team shouldn’t suck like this and it’s all underneath him. He’s the MAN and he can cannot effectively be a HC. He cannot CEO this shit half ass and also call plays that for the most part suck. They aren’t even dependent most of the time on what the defense is giving him. Last week was peak sark. 
Dude is not dialed in. At Florida his body language sucked and same for last night. Does he not want to be here? What the fuck is going on? If we lose next week what will the excuse be? Other teams had a bye week and we didn’t? 
 
You cannot tell me there aren’t people that don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. They just ain’t saying it. I have never seen a coach look this lifeless and reactionless and shuffling like Linus Brown down the sideline. His body language the cameras kept capturing. He looked like he did not want to be there. The team sees that shit. I just wish those in the know would say what is going on. 
 
what is he doing well? The offseason? No. Evaluating players? No. Most of our good RBs like That Guy said are happy accidents. His skill guys aren’t panning out the same way as the ones who he didn’t pick. Is he calling plays well? Depends. Arch seems to have regressed 100% from last year and that’s a factor but he still isn’t taking what a defense gives him outside of OU. Our OLine is awful. What is Sark doing well? He sucks at pressers. What the fuck is going on with him? 
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3 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

What the fuck is going on????? With him? Again I say this because I care for the man as a person…this is bigger than the sport. 

That's from the Alabama game in 2023 lol

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7 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

We lucked out of the Sark Specials in 2023. We got lucky and beat K State thanks to some really bad coordinator level decisions on KSU's end and still needed them to inexplicably shank an XP. We were also lucky to get out of the UH game alive with a very fortunate spot call from the refs. Last year it happened in the Georgia game at home and we got embarassed. I think we maybe just lucked out of what was supposed to be the Sark Special for this year (Florida sort of counts given how embarassingly unprepared we were, but they have talent) thanks to Kentucky's coaches seemingly having mini strokes at several points, most notably at the 1 yard line in OT.

2023 was our best chance to win it all because he only had to win two playoff games. No way this guy can put 3 or 4 good game plans together to beat good teams in December. 

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41 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Cross posting this from the Kentuck game thread because this is where it really belongs.

First, we had a lot of younger starters coming into this year. However, despite that fact Sark decided to run "NFL style" spring and summer drills which are essentially non-contact. The thought behind this is that it reduced chances for injury. It can work in the NFL because there is almost no season where a team places 3-5 starters on the OL. It doesn't work in college because OL is among the latest developing positions in college football. It also has some of the largest misses because the physical changes between 18-22 of men that large can great decrease or enhance their ability to execute the game plan. Second, because you don't get to see them in full speed contact drills it becomes nearly impossible to make the proper evaluations of growth and development among those type of players. As an important side note, the exact same is true of the QB position regarding growth and evaluation in college. If a QB isn't seeing real world speeds and pressures you can't evaluate his real world growth and ability.

That huge piece said, there is also a critical aspect of aligning your game plan to the skillset and abilities of your players. Because you can have wholesale changes at QB and skill positions in a single year and need to replace 3-5 starters on OL, what worked with one group of OL, one group of skill players and one QB may not work well or at all with an entirely different set of each. Texas faced all these save RB who we returned. If you haven't seen them in full speed practices in summer and fall camps it's absolutely impossible to make these adjustments because you can't evaluate the skills and abilities of the players. 

So, you have to wait for actual games to see both these faults, weaknesses and strengths. Ohio State made them all very clear. However, despite that reality and given we then faced 3 teams we absolutely outmatched those adjustments were not nessecary in order to win convincingly. So, basically no changes were made to blocking scheme, passing or running game. 

Which leads us to Florida. Sark is a very easy read for a competent DC and HC. His habits and play calls are extremely predictable. While Florida is a struggling team they do have talent physically on the defense. So, a coach who is about to get fired schemed against a predictable offensive game plan that our players couldn't execute very well. The result were exactly what you saw. 

WHICH lead Sark to alter blocking schemes, QB play, RB play for OU. He simplified blocking from complex strategies and long developing WR routes to shorter routes, very non-complex down blocking schemes, shorter much quicker WR routes, alternative running lanes that were quick hitting and didn't make his young QB turn his back to the field. 

It worked really well against a very good OU defense and Texas was greatly helped by an OU offense that could not do jack shit. So, in addition to a less complex scheme that our underdeveloped OL and young QB could better execute, fatigue on OU defense also helped. 

Then came Kentucky where Sark went back to the complex blocking, longer WR routes, same predictable RB runs that also develop slowly and a coach who's not a complete idiot prepared for just that. Sark did it because just like the 3 crappy teams we played and incorrectly Florida he thought the talent would over come poor execute by the Texas players against a far less talented team physically in Kentucky. 

It didn't. Sark will do the same against the next mid-tier opponent and then just shit the bed against quality ones. 

It's what he does and it won't change. 

Why did go away from what worked for OU? Cause he's a offensive genius of course. Ego comes before the fall.

Why do we look so bad?

Bad talent evaluation in recruiting, inability to evaluate the talent in spring and practice given NFL style approach, complex blocking schemes and long developing WR routes without the talent and abilities to execute them.

Edit- 2 important additional aspects. Sark does not create offensive game plans to align with the skillet of the player he has at his disposal. This is complicated by a clear inability to evaluate talent (partially due to the NFL practice) and just bad evaluation of talent. Second, Sark does NOT adjust to the defensive scheme of opponents. He doesn't take what the defense gives us, rather he tries to impose his will against defensive schemes, whether it is working or not. 

I'm not saying it's an excuse, per se.  There are a lot of coaches, socio- or psychopathic ones most likely, CEO-types too, that wouldn't let this bother them in the least.

I think one of the things we initially liked about Sark was that he wasn't one of those types, at least as far as we knew.

Sark has a narrow window to correct course here and the fact that he has to do it at all is not particularly encouraging.  But I'm not going to pretend that I know or can predict what he's going  to do.

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42 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

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That's just a blinding glimpse of the obvious right there.  Geezus people.  That sort of "arrogance" is inherent to the profession.

As the stupidity of interpreting coach speak at pressers is inherent to fanbase.

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3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I'm not saying it's an excuse, per se.  There are a lot of coaches, socio- or psychopathic ones most likely, CEO-types too, that wouldn't let this bother them in the least.

I think one of the things we initially liked about Sark was that he wasn't one of those types, at least as far as we knew.

Sark has a narrow window to correct course here and the fact that he has to do it at all is not particularly encouraging.  But I'm not going to pretend that I know or can predict what he's going  to do.

Well, my first evaluation criteria of an executive or HC is basic fundamentals. 

In football those are blocking, tackling, running game and penalties. 

We do 1 well and Sark handed that part off to a competent direct report. 

 

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6 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

2023 was our best chance to win it all because he only had to win two playoff games. No way this guy can put 3 or 4 good game plans together to beat good teams in December. 

Nope. 
he needs to go. Give the team to pete k and see what he can do with a good oc.  Unlike sark, pete is a great coach. 
what do we have to lose? It’s clear we are never going to win a title under sark. Why tread water a few more years?

at some point the nil money is going to dry up when it’s clear sark isn’t it. 

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15 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

What the fuck is going on????? With him? Again I say this because I care for the man as a person…this is bigger than the sport. 

I don't. He's ultimately a hired gun and his wellness comes last.

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1 hour ago, Hornsome said:

I have been on the bring in an OC train for a while but at this point it won't matter.

Sark is detached and as one poster said lifeless.  You can see it during the game and how lost he was before OT. He didn't talk to the team or anyone to get them up.  I just don't think he wants to be here and is going through the motions and the team feels it.  
 

I also don't seeing him pulling an Urban and quitting. 


 

 

 

1 hour ago, The Ace of Aces said:

I’m not in Texas and don’t follow any talking heads or gossip queens about this program. 

The bolded, underlined text - I’ve seen this posted in varying ominous versions for a few weeks now. What are the non-football issues? 

I do agree he looks absolutely checked out during games. But my theory is he is overwhelmed and embarrassed of how putrid his offense is and struggling with the lack of talent he had pegged as being capable (Arch, Wingo, OL, TEs). 

 

5 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

What the fuck is going on????? With him? Again I say this because I care for the man as a person…this is bigger than the sport. 

When I said lifeless I was referring to the product on the field. Sark's body language in game doesn't seem much different to me than in years past. He has always had that deer in the headlights look when what he's doing isn't working and a little shellshocked when it seems like a loss that will derail goals is imminent.

As for the off field stuff, I'm not at all plugged in, but surely the whiplash of going through a divorce and then a reconciliation with a mf baby in your 50s can't be helpful. I think piling on his personal life is out of bounds though. And consider the context when you think about insider reports about donors or AD or whoever not liking his wife. Not saying it's the case, but it wouldn't be the first time old white money couldn't really put a finger on why they don't like a younger black woman.

1 minute ago, 4th&Five said:

2023 was our best chance to win it all because he only had to win two playoff games. No way this guy can put 3 or 4 good game plans together to beat good teams in December. 

Agreed. And if we had gotten past that Washington team, we matched up much better with Michigan than they did. Do we win the game? I don't know, Michigan was really good. And it would have been a glaring mismatch in terms of HC quality. But it would have been very competitive. Last year, even though we got to the semis on a good draw, it was obvious before the CFP started that were not the best team in the country or even a top 3-4 type team.

We are going to look back on that 2023 squad with a bit of "what could have been," though I'll still always remmeber that team fondly. They, unlike 2024 and 2025 Texas, were a lot of fun to watch even with the ups and downs.

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3 minutes ago, Vermin said:

I don't. He's ultimately a hired gun and his wellness comes last.

yep, one loses a lot of sympathy for the people when they sign guaranteed 7 year contracts then just seem to stop coaching.

 we are paying him generational level money to do a job, that he has apparently stopped doing 

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1 minute ago, FORTY NINE TO ZERO said:

yep, one loses a lot of sympathy for the people when they sign guaranteed 7 year contracts then just seem to stop coaching.

 we are paying him generational level money to do a job, that he has apparently stopped doing 

Right. I have zero sympathy for him. If the job is too much he can quit and never worry about money again. 

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2 hours ago, gurt said:

The post game presser tells all.
Complete lack of introspection, burying his head in the sand, saying “it’s the little things”, saying it was a culture win, etc.
There’s an air of him acting like this is the way he wants it to be, it just needs a few tweaks.

I hope to God that Mack is not roaming the halls

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3 minutes ago, FORTY NINE TO ZERO said:

yep, one loses a lot of sympathy for the people when they sign guaranteed 7 year contracts then just seem to stop coaching.

 we are paying him generational level money to do a job, that he has apparently stopped doing 

I don't think he's really stopped doing it.  These complaints are a lot of the same complaints there have always been.  To the extent his body language or coach speak is relevant, I attribute that to frustration and puzzlement.

He's obviously fucked up some talent evals, notably that of his OL and OL coach.  And overestimated some of his skill players, especially in terms of what of his favorite offensive schemes and calls they can execute reliably.  And these are "common-thread" complaints, variations on the same thing.

He thought he could do with OL and the rest of his position coaches what he did with PK and has been wrong on that.  And should have known better as an offensive guru.  And that maybe goes back to the whole "spread too thin" as OC/HC.

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1 hour ago, Nicole44 said:

You never saw Nick Saban’s wife on the sidelines twirling her latest monarch Caftan showing off. Never. Ask any North Carolina fan (whether you think the fans deserve to believe they should at least win half their games or not) how they feel about that influencer troll girlfriend of Belichick’s on the sidelines showing off as though she has a right to be there. 
 

part of me honestly thinks because Sark did such a poor job as OC following Kyle at the Falcons that he feels he can do a better job in the pros than Shanahan. Honestly, I wouldn’t mind a trade right now. Swap Shanahan for Sark. Shanahan been working with Purdy and Mac Jones and somehow making that shit work with playcalling. I do not want to see L’Oreal’s butt on the sideline. 
 

Since sark shows zero presence when the defense saves his ass time and again if he’s going to look like a hologram at least go sit on the bench with Arch and Caldwell and coach them up. Ya know? Sit down with them and start showing them things. PK running the defense for 40 mins while sark looked completely detached was something to see last night. Not engaged at all. What the fuck? 

Sark for Shanahan?  Ok as a chargers fan I’d love to trade Omarion Hampton for Bijan

 

you keep bringing up sark to the nfl.   Why do you think anyone would want him?  Hell we did bama a favor.  

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Just now, BlackCat said:

Here's what I keep coming back to- EVERYTHING in this program is built upon the idea that Sark is an elite offensive coach, playcaller, and QB coach. 

The wheels have completely fallen off of his offense. 

His star QB is a deer in headlights. 

His game plans are confounding. 

His clock management is consistently poor. 

His offensive stats against ranked teams are objectively bad. 

 

All of this with a top 3 NIL payroll and consistently high recruiting classes. Meanwhile, PK is putting out an elite product on defense and his side of the ball is clearly the thing thats keeping our heads barely above water. The stark difference is a very tough look for Sark. It feels like we are starting to enter the territory where we are forced to ask the question- What is the overall value that Sark brings to the program?

 

Been asking that for a while and I have a pretty different vantage point. 

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8 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Sark for Shanahan?  Ok as a chargers fan I’d love to trade Omarion Hampton for Bijan

 

you keep bringing up sark to the nfl.   Why do you think anyone would want him?  Hell we did bama a favor.  

I see it as hope and prevents us from paying a massive buyout. 

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2 minutes ago, BlackCat said:

Here's what I keep coming back to- EVERYTHING in this program is built upon the idea that Sark is an elite offensive coach, playcaller, and QB coach. 

The wheels have completely fallen off of his offense. 

His star QB is a deer in headlights. 

His game plans are confounding. 

His clock management is consistently poor. 

His offensive stats against ranked teams are objectively bad. 

 

All of this with a top 3 NIL payroll and consistently high recruiting classes. Meanwhile, PK is putting out an elite product on defense and his side of the ball is clearly the thing thats keeping our heads barely above water. The stark difference is a very tough look for Sark. It feels like we are starting to enter the territory where we are forced to ask the question- What is the overall value that Sark brings to the program?

Sark is the most stubborn, tone-deaf sonofabitch alive if he doesn't hire an OC this offseason.

What he's doin' ain't workin'. 

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2 minutes ago, immamac said:

Been asking that for a while and I have a pretty different vantage point. 
 

 

I love when tough questions always get asked and you have a big chunk of the fan base that will immediately point to the 2023-2024 seasons as if we won anything of significance those years. 

5 minutes ago, USNALonghorn said:

Traylor

Eric Morris is better than Traylor and Kinne. 

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7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

I love when tough questions always get asked and you have a big chunk of the fan base that will immediately point to the 2023-2024 seasons as if we won anything of significance those years. 

Eric Morris is better than Traylor and Kinne. 

I don’t disagree, but I bet a lot of boosters are itching to give him a chance. Obviously CDC has final say, but hard to imagine there won’t be heavy pressure.

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Just now, USNALonghorn said:

I don’t disagree, but I bet a lot of boosters are itching to give him a chance. Obviously CDC has final say, but hard to imagine there won’t be heavy pressure.

If any booster is pushing Traylor they should be publicly shamed access revoked

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12 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

Sark is the most stubborn, tone-deaf sonofabitch alive if he doesn't hire an OC this offseason.

What he's doin' ain't workin'. 

I think the issue is if we go out and hire a playcalling OC, then why is Steve Sarkisian our coach?

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43 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

That's just a blinding glimpse of the obvious right there.  Geezus people.  That sort of "arrogance" is inherent to the profession.

As the stupidity of interpreting coach speak at pressers is inherent to fanbase.

Winning is hard

 

 

 

 

That wasn’t my Movado 

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4 minutes ago, BlackCat said:

I think the issue is if we go out and hire a playcalling OC, then why is Steve Sarkisian our coach?

Don’t think that thought hasn’t crossed sarks mind

Just now, GreenspointTexas said:

Seriously, whats his buyout?

More than franklins.   2028 would be the year

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26 minutes ago, BlackCat said:

Here's what I keep coming back to- EVERYTHING in this program is built upon the idea that Sark is an elite offensive coach, playcaller, and QB coach. 

The wheels have completely fallen off of his offense. 

His star QB is a deer in headlights. 

His game plans are confounding. 

His clock management is consistently poor. 

His offensive stats against ranked teams are objectively bad. 

 

All of this with a top 3 NIL payroll and consistently high recruiting classes. Meanwhile, PK is putting out an elite product on defense and his side of the ball is clearly the thing thats keeping our heads barely above water. The stark difference is a very tough look for Sark. It feels like we are starting to enter the territory where we are forced to ask the question- What is the overall value that Sark brings to the program?

 

When the offense is this bad, it is on the coaching staff. Don’t get me wrong execution sucks and QB is so inconsistent. Some of those issue are because Sark views himself as an NFL OC. He has a new game plan every week, instead of developing a few core concepts that the offense can rely on. I thought Sark would build on OU gameplan, he decided that the Florida game plan needed another chance. Sark and the offensive staff are not putting players in a position to succeed. He brags about consistency on the staff, but the defense has had a lot of turnover and evolved. I think this is the year Sark needs to swallow a shit sandwich and bring on some new coaches and ideas for the offense 

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14 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

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Eastern Michigan put up 461 yards on Kentucky, 330 passing and 131 rushing with 21 first downs.

We managed 179 yards and 8 first downs.

Their RB averaged 6.4ypc too. 

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There's a clear and obvious void of leadership and Sark is the leader of the team. 

He's also the OC and in charge of the gameplan and the lead on QB development. It's all exclusively his shit that is bad. The only thing that sucks and isn't directly his is the OL and flood is a fucking idiot too. 

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First comes the ugly wins, then the close losses, followed by ass kicking a few times a year. Clemson is going through it right now. We might be at the early stages of Sark's demise if he is not careful. 

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3 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

First comes the ugly wins, then the close losses, followed by ass kicking a few times a year. Clemson is going through it right now. We might be at the early stages of Sark's tenure if he is not careful. 

And, often, staff changes are part of the death spiral.  

And, as to what is he doing if he's not OC, there were a lot of people outside of 9.95ers. like former players, praising the culture and recruiting this off-season.  And he's certainly improved things significantly.

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2 minutes ago, Vermin said:

 

We are less than a TD favorite against a team that has lost 15 straight SEC games.

I don’t gamble but 45.5 seems like a lot. 

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6 minutes ago, Vermin said:

 

We are less than a TD favorite against a team that has lost 15 straight SEC games.

Man this team really feels like it’s teetering on a meltdown. Things go sideways for us here then I think it really gets ugly. 

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