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2 hours ago, Codaxx said:

that was protection audible. I do not think anyone knows how much leeway Sark allows on audibles. Is it only minor changes? Are there gameplan audibles vs certain looks? Does he have tags on some calls?  

Jesus H. Christ there are plenty of things to complain about but we just watched a backup QB come in for one series and throw the game winning TD by calling an audible on the road in overtime a few weeks ago.

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1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

Jesus H. Christ there are plenty of things to complain about but we just watched a backup QB come in for one series and throw the game winning TD by calling an audible on the road in overtime a few weeks ago.

who said I was complaining. I said we do not know the leeway that Sark gives players. IF you actually know please share. 

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4 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

who said I was complaining. I said we do not know the leeway that Sark gives players. IF you actually know please share. 

Exactly. There are levels of freedom a QB can have, and it's interesting to discuss, whether you really blame the coach or not. Cool, the back-up audibled to something different, but was it the only pre-designated play he could audible to, or only pre-designated route he could change to based on shown coverage? That's interesting to me. 

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3 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

who said I was complaining. I said we do not know the leeway that Sark gives players. IF you actually know please share. 

I see very little evidence throughout his entire history as an OC/play caller that Sark gives very much freedom for anyone to audible or make decisions outside his play calling. A recent enough 10-20-25 ESPN article says as much (read between the lines) but he has a history of not giving much freedom to his QBs. If that’s what you are asking. 
 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46662689/steve-sarkisian-shoulders-blame-texas-offensive-woes

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1 hour ago, Skipper said:

Herbstreit may have been dead on with his cesspool comments given this tread this week.  Toxic 'Cloak Room' style discourse has been spilling over to this board for years now (i.e., Ewers thread) and now it's just turning into fucking Longhorn TMZ.    

 

1 hour ago, Skipper said:

Herbstreit may have been dead on with his cesspool comments given this tread this week.  Toxic 'Cloak Room' style discourse has been spilling over to this board for years now (i.e., Ewers thread) and now it's just turning into fucking Longhorn TMZ.    

Every fanbase has a rumor mill.  Our fanbase and alums are no more demanding than any major program’s, and actually less so when you consider the massive resources we have. We aren’t particularly demanding at all.

The biggest demand here is not to embarrass the University, off field or on. 

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Posted (edited)

And some more (really old article) but interesting. I do not think at Texas, that Sark has changed much at all from how he was before and that’s my opinion when it comes to allowing his QBs any kind of freedom. 
 

see very old article 

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-football/alabama-qb-jalen-hurts-adapting-to-audible-from-lane-kiffin-to-steve-sarkisian

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1 minute ago, Tex Pete said:

The biggest demand here is not to embarrass the University, off field or on. 

The only person embarrassing the University is Sark. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, UncleBuck said:

Exactly. There are levels of freedom a QB can have, and it's interesting to discuss, whether you really blame the coach or not. Cool, the back-up audibled to something different, but was it the only pre-designated play he could audible to, or only pre-designated route he could change to based on shown coverage? That's interesting to me. 

You already noted it, but it's worth repeating. What is the level of freedom and frequency with which that freedom is granted. Goal line stand plays only, specific goal line stand plays, how many options, how much during the rest of the game, on 4th, 3rd, 2nd and 1st, we don't know any specifics and I'm very curious as well.

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3 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

And some more (really old article) but interesting. I do not think at Texas, that Sark has changed much at all from how he was before and that’s my opinion when it comes to allowing his QBs any kind of freedom. 
 

see very old article 

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/college-football/alabama-qb-jalen-hurts-adapting-to-audible-from-lane-kiffin-to-steve-sarkisian

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I found this quote from Sark and it honestly made me wonder, what happened to that guy.

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“I've always called plays from the field. I'm comfortable there,” Sarkisian said. “I think it's important for me to have the one-on-one contact with Jalen on the field, see his demeanor, really talk through things.”

 

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11 minutes ago, BlackCat said:

I dont really care who is responsible for his personal issues, we are all adults and we make our decisions. What I do care about is if the consequences of those decisions have such a negative impact on your job performance that your results fall well below reasonable expectations. I expect a competent O Line. I expect the team to be better disciplined than 135th of 136 in penalties. I expect the run game to be better than dead last in the conference. 

He has at minimum a top 5 NIL payroll and he's around the 5th highest paid coach in college football. He's received everything he needs to meet reasonable expectations, yet this season has been a failure. That isn't gossip mongering tmz talk. That is he wasted an entire season and its not hard to connect the dots that his personal life is part of the reason why. Im a pretty easy going guy, but when you let an easily avoidable grenade go off inside a gargantuan organization, I no longer trust you to fulfill the expectations of the job and I'd like to move forward with someone else. 

Accountability seems to be a word/concept that is absolutely lost to this team. By team I mean HC and every member of the staff and that has been passed on to the players. Lack of performance or issues, dropped balls, wrong WR routes, missed coverages or missed blocks, and penalties seem to have near zero effect on playing time. Frequently when mistakes are made I've not even seen a coach approach the player who made the mistake when leaving the field. Then the coaches blame the players for failures and question the judgements of fans and media. Look in the mirror. 

I don't get it. At all.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, BlackCat said:

I dont really care who is responsible for his personal issues, we are all adults and we make our decisions. What I do care about is if the consequences of those decisions have such a negative impact on your job performance that your results fall well below reasonable expectations. I expect a competent O Line. I expect the team to be better disciplined than 135th of 136 in penalties. I expect the run game to be better than dead last in the conference. 

He has at minimum a top 5 NIL payroll and he's around the 5th highest paid coach in college football. He's received everything he needs to meet reasonable expectations, yet this season has been a failure. That isn't gossip mongering tmz talk. That is he wasted an entire season and its not hard to connect the dots that his personal life is part of the reason why. Im a pretty easy going guy, but when you let an easily avoidable grenade go off inside a gargantuan organization, I no longer trust you to fulfill the expectations of the job and I'd like to move forward with someone else. 

Minus the jokes/laughs and Russians, this is how I assume the conversation will go with Sark at the end of the year with the BMDs starting at 3:16 

Posted
37 minutes ago, UncleBuck said:

If I'm not mistaken, he changed protection to cover an all-out blitz. That, along with switching to a single pre-designated run from a pass based on what a safety is doing etc..., are what most would consider intermediate types of audibling, and a lot of times is situational. I'd probably throw audibling to a hot route in there as well. So he at least had the freedom to do that, and a lot of QBs do.

But when I want to know if a QB is really allowed to audible, what I'm really asking is if on any given play that QB has the freedom to change things, from play side to gaps, individual routes etc... 

 

 

Quinn did that too.  Wingo caused Quinn to eat at least one sack against Vandy last year because Wingo didn't recognize the blitz.  Golden was on the same page with Quinn on the 4th down play.  I think Quinn got a lot more grief than he should win he won almost every regular season game by 2 scores.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, TexasExe14 said:

I may be in the minority, but if you do bad things, especially that affect your job, there should be consequences. No matter how many wins and losses you have.

I agree in broad strokes but "bad things" is way too vague a term for me to agree in full. 

Are these things illegal, violations of policy, or blatant dereliction of duties and responsibilities, then yes. Beyond that in moral aspects the devil is in the details and that's to broad to make a call without details. 

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31 minutes ago, horn009 said:

Sark has been to an SEC title game, the playoffs two separate times, and has winning records against both OU and aggy. What’s not to love about that? 

I don't love the disaster of an OL and running game.  In fact, I hate the fuck out of it this year.

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9 minutes ago, BlackCat said:

I dont really care who is responsible for his personal issues, we are all adults and we make our decisions. What I do care about is if the consequences of those decisions have such a negative impact on your job performance that your results fall well below reasonable expectations. I expect a competent O Line. I expect the team to be better disciplined than 135th of 136 in penalties. I expect the run game to be better than dead last in the conference. 

He has at minimum a top 5 NIL payroll and he's around the 5th highest paid coach in college football. He's received everything he needs to meet reasonable expectations, yet this season has been a failure. That isn't gossip mongering tmz talk. That is he wasted an entire season and its not hard to connect the dots that his personal life is part of the reason why. Im a pretty easy going guy, but when you let an easily avoidable grenade go off inside a gargantuan organization, I no longer trust you to fulfill the expectations of the job and I'd like to move forward with someone else. 

This is the most expensive team we have ever fielded from what I understand. One of the most expensive teams in college football period. And we  are a Niblett away as I have said from only having 5 wins going into this weekend. How Sark can be a smart ass about it is what is infuriating the people responsible for paying for the this very expensive team he fielded. Truth. They ain’t pleased and they cut the checks so we can Be Texas and compete with anyone. 

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Maybe the problem is “they’re at least top 5 in NIL”.  Maybe the “Country Club” is back. Maybe Texas high school football hasn’t consistently been producing solid linemen for quite some time making it all the more important to hit the portal. There’s all kinds of way to speculate about the causes of this season’s deficiencies from the outside looking in

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9 minutes ago, BlackCat said:

I dont really care who is responsible for his personal issues, we are all adults and we make our decisions. What I do care about is if the consequences of those decisions have such a negative impact on your job performance that your results fall well below reasonable expectations. I expect a competent O Line. I expect the team to be better disciplined than 135th of 136 in penalties. I expect the run game to be better than dead last in the conference. 

He has at minimum a top 5 NIL payroll and he's around the 5th highest paid coach in college football. He's received everything he needs to meet reasonable expectations, yet this season has been a failure. That isn't gossip mongering tmz talk. That is he wasted an entire season and its not hard to connect the dots that his personal life is part of the reason why. Im a pretty easy going guy, but when you let an easily avoidable grenade go off inside a gargantuan organization, I no longer trust you to fulfill the expectations of the job and I'd like to move forward with someone else. 

This!  It's not like this is his first time either.  Given everything the donors, fans, university has poured into this program... it's not unreasonable to expect your HC to do his damn job and hold his coaches, his players, and himself accountable.  This roster cost almost 40 million.  I'm sure those donors are thrilled about the man allegedly sticking his dick in his player's sister and letting his wife allegedly fuck around with the WRs.  I'm sure they are thrilled that he missed JR day last minute when many of these recruits are paid to fucking show up.  He's not the manager at taco bell.  He's the CEO of a damn near billion dollar brand/team.  You think this shit would fly under Saban?  Coaches talk about how miserable he is to coach under because of how demanding he is on his staff and players every fucking year.  Yet our HC is on benders and giving the team and staff more rest!  People have stated that Nansen and Sark were drinking buddies.  Add in Banks.  We've got 3 guys on this staff that probably need a fucking baby sitter to make sure they aren't embarrassing the university.  If any of this is remotely true, Sark is fucked.  First thing any NFL team or college team is going to do is call Texas and ask if he has been drinking on the job.  The most likely scenario here is that Texas does their best to hide this shit and hope he changes considering where the program has grown to.  It would be embarrassing for the university for him to be fired this year.   Unless there is a definitively better replacement, you keep him and tell him to straighten the fuck up.  If it bleeds into next season, at least now you have time to start vetting candidates to replace him.  

 

The only thing that really bothers me is that if you have lost your locker room, you're basically toast.  Those guys will not fight for a coach they don't respect or believe in.  Let's see how these dudes play the last two games.  I really don't have much confidence honestly.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Wally Pryor said:

 

"According to who?"

Dear lord. The thin skin makes Brown smile. He set the bar. 

 

Yes it was very 🧈 butter teeth-esque. How dare you reporters question me???? Well he does have to answer to the people who cut those massive checks for the roster. Him acting like a smart ass about it is a dumb move. They cut the checks. For the players. And the results for this colossally expensive team are not great. At all. We are liked by the committee but that can easily change over the next two weeks as well.  

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1 minute ago, victory88 said:

This!  It's not like this is his first time either.  Given everything the donors, fans, university has poured into this program... it's not unreasonable to expect your HC to do his damn job and hold his coaches, his players, and himself accountable.  This roster cost almost 40 million.  I'm sure those donors are thrilled about the man allegedly sticking his dick in his player's sister and letting his wife allegedly fuck around with the WRs.  I'm sure they are thrilled that he missed JR day last minute when many of these recruits are paid to fucking show up.  He's not the manager at taco bell.  He's the CEO of a damn near billion dollar brand/team.  You think this shit would fly under Saban?  Coaches talk about how miserable he is to coach under because of how demanding he is on his staff and players every fucking year.  Yet our HC is on benders and giving the team and staff more rest!  People have stated that Nansen and Sark were drinking buddies.  Add in Banks.  We've got 3 guys on this staff that probably need a fucking baby sitter to make sure they aren't embarrassing the university.  If any of this is remotely true, Sark is fucked.  First thing any NFL team or college team is going to do is call Texas and ask if he has been drinking on the job.  The most likely scenario here is that Texas does their best to hide this shit and hope he changes considering where the program has grown to.  It would be embarrassing for the university for him to be fired this year.   Unless there is a definitively better replacement, you keep him and tell him to straighten the fuck up.  If it bleeds into next season, at least now you have time to start vetting candidates to replace him.  

 

The only thing that really bothers me is that if you have lost your locker room, you're basically toast.  Those guys will not fight for a coach they don't respect or believe in.  Let's see how these dudes play the last two games.  I really don't have much confidence honestly.

A manager of Taco Bell might do a better job with this colossally expensive roster. Great post. 

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Do we want a better coach or a different coach? 
So many here knew this was not a great hire. Just like the RT hire, we all knew it wasn’t the right call. 
Texas needs to figure this out we are looking dumb as shit and this is going to cost us recruits and hire prices being paid out. There will be 4 other Texas schools alone that will out smart and out maneuver us,  it’s just sad. Pick any 4 but I would say Tech, Farm and Fleet, SMU and possibly now Baylor. 

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2 minutes ago, TejasPedro said:

Do we want a better coach or a different coach? 
So many here knew this was not a great hire. Just like the RT hire, we all knew it wasn’t the right call. 
Texas needs to figure this out we are looking dumb as shit and this is going to cost us recruits and hire prices being paid out. There will be 4 other Texas schools alone that will out smart and out maneuver us,  it’s just sad. Pick any 4 but I would say Tech, Farm and Fleet, SMU and possibly now Baylor. 

A Time Machine to start the whole year over starting with January? Since it’s not an option I don’t have any sure thing answers. 

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33 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Our fanbase and alums are no more demanding than any major program’s, and actually less so when you consider the massive resources we have.

I disagree with this.   Or at least any insinuation we are a less toxic or fair weather than the worst in that regard (which, I'll admit, is a decent chunk of the SEC and several other top tier programs). We are certainly up there with all of them.  But let's be clear, the reason for all the activity in this thread is that we have 3 losses in a season with high expectations and blame must be allocated loudly.  If we beat UGA, none of this shit is being talked about.  But we've lost 3 games and the last one wasn't close so now it's turned into personal and character attacks on the coach based on rumors.  Maybe they are right - I don't know.  I could text someone right now that almost certainly would know but I don't really care enough (and when I do get insider information, I typically don't post it all over this board particularly to the extent the subsequent discussion would in any way damage Texas).  Obviously most don't agree with that and think all dirty laundry should be shared widely.   

But you are  kidding yourself to think that if Sark is replaced, similar toxicity won't exist the first time Freeman or Kiffin or whoever has a disappointing loss.  The coach everyone is clamoring for today will suddenly become a fucking retard and no doubt people will search and gossip about off the field reasons to explain why their god given right to enjoy a 10+ win and playoff season is in jeopardy.   

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47 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

They were laid out already multiple times by the way in this forum the past two months Hulu people who are not me. Just sayin’

You mentioned before about people on here with really stupid political takes, they make those statements over and over again which is where the damage is done. You know things, you told us you know things. One or two posts about it is PLENTY, you won’t let it go. Thats the issue, imo. 

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1 minute ago, Nicole44 said:

Yes it was very 🧈 butter teeth-esque. How dare you reporters question me???? Well he does have to answer to the people who cut those massive checks for the roster. Him acting like a smart ass about it is a dumb move. They cut the checks. For the players. And the results for this colossally expensive team are not great. At all. We are liked by the committee but that can easily change over the next two weeks as well.  

And some feathers will get ruffled but Sark also has to answer to the fans that pay big money to come to the games, but Texas swag, and support things like Burnt Ends. 

There was someone complaining up thread about Texas fans selling tickets. I don't support that, but it's the price of failure. 

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4 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

I think a lot of the criticism of X was in defense of Quinn

It doesn't really matter.  The point is the offense isn't able to routinely do things Sark thinks it can.  From practice, or something.

The players aren't necessarily affirmatively bad, but for whatever reasons, just not performing.  And it's not like they utterly cannot run the offense, they just miss it by  . . . this much.  The pass is off.  The route is a little off.  A missed block.  Drops.

The glaring exception being the OL.  I'll say it again, last year's OL just wasn't all that, despite the draft picks.  The offense was good enough overall that it seemed like kind of a nitpick, but its lack of push in the run game kept our offense under wraps.

Of course, now, it's a glaring, massive defect that probably drives everything else wrong with the offense:  Arch struggling, not establishing with the WR, and obviously the never-quite-gets-going run game.

Even the penalties, which seem most disastrously to center around an OL that is more than half-likely to get bitched on any given play.  They're so nervous they jump, and then hold when they do get bitched; if they manage to engage a rusher at all.

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Just now, WinningIsHard said:

You mentioned before about people on here with really stupid political takes, they make those statements over and over again which is where the damage is done. You know things, you told us you know things. One or two posts about it is PLENTY, you won’t let it go. Thats the issue, imo. 

Maybe the rest of you should “let it go” and just admit the blame for 7-3 lies solely at sark’s feet for squandering a historically expensive $40 million dollar team? And he should maybe do his fucking job and stop taking potshots at Desmond and Dianna Russini and reporters and generally being a fucking smart ass about it? 
 

you are doing the same thing as me. Or am I wrong? Some of you act like the past is somehow more important than the present. Coaching is a what have you done for me lately job. Not a wow he beat Saban at bama another season that is long over. 
 

You can put me on ignore and others can as well. If people are looking for sark news the title of threads tend to change when shit happens and then you only have to click on the thread when that occurs. I guess? 

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1 minute ago, Nicole44 said:

Maybe the rest of you should “let it go” and just admit the blame for 7-3 lies solely at sark’s feet for squandering a historically expensive $40 million dollar team? And he should maybe do his fucking job and stop taking potshots at Desmond and Dianna Russini and reporters and generally being a fucking smart ass about it? 
 

you are doing the same thing as me. Or am I wrong? Some of you act like the past is somehow more important than the present. Coaching is a what have you done for me lately job. Not a wow he beat Saban at bama another season that is long over. 
 

You can put me on ignore and others can as well. If people are looking for sark news the title of threads tend to change when shit happens and then you only have to click on the thread when that occurs. I guess? 

The blame does lie with Sark, whoever you are swinging at is gone. Almost 99% of this board has blamed sark up to this point. Who is defending sark? @Thatguy has a post in here blaming sark for talent evaluation, I’m on record saying it won’t bother me one bit to fire him lol. @David Dennison doesn’t believe the “smoke” until it becomes a fire that has to be put out. You’re chasing ghosts. If a guy like Billy Lucci didn’t have any info of sark’s off field issues and he found them out here because of you or some other poster spreading it….wouldn’t that bother you? I guess I’m old or something lol. 

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Posted
47 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

 

Every fanbase has a rumor mill.  Our fanbase and alums are no more demanding than any major program’s, and actually less so when you consider the massive resources we have. We aren’t particularly demanding at all.

The biggest demand here is not to embarrass the University, off field or on. 

Imagine being a big enough dumbass to parrot something Herbstreit said when you have shitshows like Auburn, LSU, Baylor and Penn State around...

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9 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

It doesn't really matter.  The point is the offense isn't able to routinely do things Sark thinks it can.  From practice, or something.

The players aren't necessarily affirmatively bad, but for whatever reasons, just not performing.  And it's not like they utterly cannot run the offense, they just miss it by  . . . this much.  The pass is off.  The route is a little off.  A missed block.  Drops.

The glaring exception being the OL.  I'll say it again, last year's OL just wasn't all that, despite the draft picks.  The offense was good enough overall that it seemed like kind of a nitpick, but its lack of push in the run game kept our offense under wraps.

Of course, now, it's a glaring, massive defect that probably drives everything else wrong with the offense:  Arch struggling, not establishing with the WR, and obviously the never-quite-gets-going run game.

It’s borderline a fireable offense that sark can’t find an elite caliber rb either recruiting or portal. I’m sick of reading about other schools with nfl rb’s on their roster. 

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I think the thing with Sark right now that is bothering me more than anything else is his snarky insinuations that nothing is wrong with our season, or that everything is fine. He should be as pissed as anyone at what is happening on the field and he isn't.

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6 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

So the wife banged a player and then Sark banged said player's mom to get back at them? Solid 

Unknown if it was same player's mom.  OR was it a sister?  Actually some of the player's moms especially X's are not bad at all  And there was more than one player

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1 minute ago, Pam Cummings said:

I think the thing with Sark right now that is bothering me more than anything else is his snarky insinuations that nothing is wrong with our season, or that everything is fine. He should be as pissed as anyone at what is happening on the field and he isn't.

Maybe he is pissed just not in front of the media. I don't mind that he's firing back about the speculation especially if it's getting around to the players or tampering is occurring. He's still the head coach and has to hold onto the roster until he's no longer that. 

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The portal class with no OL, no RB and one WR (who looks like our best WR) was just negligent and lazy.  

I'd be lazy too if I had $75M coming to me until 2031 win or lose.

Ranking 135 out of 136 in most penalties in year 5 is the standard is the standard

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Posted
8 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

So the wife banged a player and then Sark banged said player's mom to get back at them? Solid 

Yeah, I don't care about any of that unless it is affecting the locker room, but that doesn't necessarily impact on the field performance or preperation. I feel like some of you don't know any (disgusting men) in high places. A 40MM roster was wasted? This roster just isn't that special compared to the last two seasons. We all have eyeballs. They're a 7-3 talent type team. Sark's job over the off season is to fix that. 

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