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Posted
9 minutes ago, Lou_Sassle said:

Lol. Even if I did decide to fuck myself, I would accept the consequences of my own actions, and wouldn't try to blame some "disease" to excuse myself from my decision. 

Star Trek Kirk GIF

See, where I come from, when you have evidence that says alcohol is a disease, and the thousands upon thousands of people who literally dedicate their lives to researching it say that alcohol is a disease, and the people who treat it like a disease recover while those who try the "oh it's just discipline" continue to spiral into worse and worse alcoholism, then... where I come from, only complete fucking idiots would then go on to say "hurr hurr it's not a disease derp derp."

Apparently you don't come from there, you come from dipshitopolis where the millions of man-hours of research can be conveniently ignored with a flippant toss of ignorance.

How cute your tiny brain is! Look y'all, it thinks it can think for itself!

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

Star Trek Kirk GIF

See, where I come from, when you have evidence that says alcohol is a disease, and the thousands upon thousands of people who literally dedicate their lives to researching it say that alcohol is a disease, and the people who treat it like a disease recover while those who try the "oh it's just discipline" continue to spiral into worse and worse alcoholism, then... where I come from, only complete fucking idiots would then go on to say "hurr hurr it's not a disease derp derp."

Apparently you don't come from there, you come from dipshitopolis where the millions of man-hours of research can be conveniently ignored with a flippant toss of ignorance.

How cute your tiny brain is! Look y'all, it thinks it can think for itself!

Damn... there must be some kind of medication or vaccine for it if it's a "disease", right? Is it contagious? Shit...I better watch out who I'm hanging around with, otherwise I could catch alcoholism...

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Posted
30 minutes ago, Lou_Sassle said:

Lol, y'all are dumb. Lot of people on this board with no self control, I see.

I see you suffer from the disease of being a disrespectful little bitch. Too bad you don't have enough self control over that. You might have grown up to be a better human being.

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Posted
1 minute ago, TheBryMan81 said:

I see you suffer from the disease of being a disrespectful little bitch. Too bad you don't have enough self control over that. You might have grown up to be a better human being.

Lol

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Posted
1 minute ago, Lou_Sassle said:

Damn... there must be some kind of medication or vaccine for it if it's a "disease", right? Is it contagious? Shit...I better watch out who I'm hanging around with, otherwise I could catch alcoholism...

Lol there actually is a medication for it dumbass. 

I guess by your definition, Type 2 Diabetes is also not a disease, just a lack of self control. Or Lung Cancer. No vaccinations against those either. 

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Posted

anyway, one last gif for Lou:

Star Trek Shut Up GIF

It's awfully nice of Lou to let us all know that we needn't ever consider his opinions or thoughts on anything to be valuable in such a straightforward and forthright way.

Posted
1 minute ago, TheBryMan81 said:

Lol there actually is a medication for it dumbass. 

I guess by your definition, Type 2 Diabetes is also not a disease, just a lack of self control. Or Lung Cancer. No vaccinations against those either. 

Lol

Just now, Rimbo said:

anyway, one last gif for Lou:

Star Trek Shut Up GIF

It's awfully nice of Lou to let us all know that we needn't ever consider his opinions or thoughts on anything to be valuable in such a straightforward and forthright way.

 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, TheBryMan81 said:

Lol there actually is a medication for it dumbass. 

I guess by your definition, Type 2 Diabetes is also not a disease, just a lack of self control. Or Lung Cancer. No vaccinations against those either. 

This is just a stupid fallacy argument. Stop taking diabetes or cancer medication and you fucking die. Nobody chooses to have diabetes or cancer. Stop taking alcohol craving medicine and all that happens is you're once again presented with the choice of giving in to your craving.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Lou_Sassle said:

This is just a stupid fallacy argument. Stop taking diabetes or cancer medication and you fucking die. Nobody chooses to have diabetes or cancer. Stop taking alcohol craving medicine and all that happens is you're once again presented with the choice of giving in to your craving.

 I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "fallacy". This is what I call applying your definition to other examples, or a comparison. Once again, you're a dumbass. 

Type 2 Diabetes can be adequately controlled with diet, exercise, and weight loss if identified early enough. Or flat out prevented with diet/exercise/weight loss. It doesn't require medications 100% of the time. So, again, by your definition, it's just a lack of self control, not a disease.

Lung cancer can be prevented by having the self control to not pick up a cigarette. So not a disease according to you.

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

Everyone is being obtuse right now. 

He's either a terrible troll or a legitimate dumbass. If he's a troll and this is what he does for entertainment, then maybe he needs to find some purpose in life. If he's a legitimate dumbass, then educating and increasing health literacy is literally my life, so I don't mind continuing to rebut against him.

Either way, if he gives us more posts to neg, I'm ok with that.

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Posted
1 minute ago, TheBryMan81 said:

He's either a terrible troll or a legitimate dumbass. Either way, if he gives us more posts to neg, I'm ok with that.

Lol, have you noticed that I haven't belittled, talked down upon, or insulted anyone? Do you know why? It's because the true sign of intelligence is being able to have your opinions and worldviews criticized without whining, crying, belittling, or insulting those who disagree with you. Some people just think they're better and smarter than everyone, and if people don't agree with them, then they're fucking stupid and need to be insulted. .. and quite frankly... thats sad. I'm intelligent enough to know that I have my opinions and you have yours, without having to try to make myself feel superior by insulting and belittling you. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Lou_Sassle said:

Lol, have you noticed that I haven't belittled, talked down upon, or insulted anyone?

 

1 hour ago, Lou_Sassle said:

Lol, y'all are dumb. Lot of people on this board with no self control, I see.

 

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, TheBryMan81 said:

 

 

Ok...touché....I forgot about that 1 that was made in jest. The fact of the matter is that I'm secure enough in my opinion, and in my own personal experiences on the topic, to not have to resort to personal attacks and insults. 

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Posted (edited)
43 minutes ago, Lou_Sassle said:

Damn... there must be some kind of medication or vaccine for it if it's a "disease", right? Is it contagious? Shit...I better watch out who I'm hanging around with, otherwise I could catch alcoholism...

Lol, there are medications for it. Naltrexone helps reduce cravings by blocking alcohol's pleasurable effects, acamprosate works by helping restore brain chemistry, and disulfiram causes an unpleasant physical reaction if a person drinks alcohol.

You're really showing your ass here.

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Posted
30 minutes ago, Lou_Sassle said:

This is just a stupid fallacy argument. Stop taking diabetes or cancer medication and you fucking die. Nobody chooses to have diabetes or cancer. Stop taking alcohol craving medicine and all that happens is you're once again presented with the choice of giving in to your craving.

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Posted
1 minute ago, MuellerHorn said:

Lol, there are medications for it. You're really showing your ass here.

So what virus or bacteria causes alcoholism? 

1 minute ago, Fondren & Main said:

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Lol, that gif works perfect for me.

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, Lou_Sassle said:

So what virus or bacteria causes alcoholism? 

Does a virus or bacterium cause every ailment or disease?... But, please, keep enlightening those of us who work in healthcare here how you know more than us. I bet you also think postpartum moms just need to stop being sad, too.

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Posted
1 minute ago, MuellerHorn said:

Maybe go read some about "bad genes" and alcohol use disorder and report back here. 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4056340/

That is very interesting, and something i have not read before. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I'll read it thoroughly, and do some more research on it, and may perhaps change my opinion. However, I will say that the article does day that certain genes may only increase the risk. You still have to make the choice. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Lou_Sassle said:

That is very interesting, and something i have not read before. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. I'll read it thoroughly, and do some more research on it, and may perhaps change my opinion. However, I will say that the article does day that certain genes may only increase the risk. You still have to make the choice. 

I'm not trying to take away the fact that people are responsible for their actions, but it's much more complicated than that most of the time. 

There's a reason "Step 1" in AA is "honesty."

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Posted

While some would say it is a disease transferred by the former college QB gene in my opinion the condition known as "abandoning the run" is definitely a choice.

 

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