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Good size/speed combo on paper. Apparently isn't particularly good at blocking. Seems early for him, but the Cowboys have had some success projecting TE in mid rounds. I would have much preferred the dipped into the deeper DB and interior OL pool at that spot for value, or even a running back that would have staring potential a year from now.

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6 minutes ago, pacman said:

Strange, indeed. Nothing above average about him receiving or blocking.

Probably a stupid favor to barry alvarez for no reason

Another reach...

Feels like Dallas locked in on TE in 4th Rd, but weren't willing to trade up.  Just terrible use of 4th Rd pick imo.  Hope they get lucky with all their 5th Rd picks...

 

 

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1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

With trade for A.J. Brown, lots of folks saying Eagles will win NFC East this year 

The fecals being named offseason champions has been an NFL tradition for the past couple of decades.

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14 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Another reach...

Feels like Dallas locked in on TE in 4th Rd, but weren't willing to trade up.  Just terrible use of 4th Rd pick imo.  Hope they get lucky with all their 5th Rd picks...

 

 

Lot's of hyperbole here.  If you didn't think it's a good pick, cool...but it's FAR from Terrible.  Everything out there is basically comparing him to Shulz, who he's likely to replace as start when Shulz leaves next year(unless you think he'll be paid).  This guy is an inline blocker and will be playing with Shulz game one most likely.

 

I think they wanted Kolar, just didn't go up and get him...but acting like this is a "terrible" pick when it's a 4th round TE is a bit of overkill.

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I think Kolar is a better pass catcher who played with a MUCH better QB.  I think Ferguson will be perfectly fine as TE2 with potential to be at least Dalton when all said and done.

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11 minutes ago, mdmost said:

So they got an OT from North Dakota in the 5th for Amari Cooper.

Cooper was going to get cut. If he had any trade value multiple teams would have been involved bidding against each other. He went to the fucking Browns. 

Pretty much all the WRs that got traded for high picks got massive extensions. No one was going to give Cooper an extension, especially not after paying his 20 mil salary. 

I don't understand why people keep harping on how low of a pick they got for him. The larger the market and demand, the higher the pick. Clearly no one thought he was worth a high pick, or they would've offered one. 

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2 minutes ago, futureman said:

and they let everyone know about it. 

Everyone knew even without them saying anything. It's very simple, no team other than the Browns was willing to pay him 20 mil + 5th round pick. They were trying to trade him for months. If another team valued him more, he would've been traded to them. The teams waiting around for him to be cut clearly didn't value him enough to secure his services with a pick higher than the 5th round. 

An aging and often injured WR who disappears half the season is not going to command a premium in the trade market. 

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I don’t get it. This feels like the worst pick of the Dallas draft so far.

 

Clark underwent spinal fusion surgery on March 24, and he is likely to miss the entire 2022 season. He is expected to make a full recovery, however. -- Steve Muench

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3 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Just had spinal fusion surgery...  Herniated Disc, likely won't play in 2022

LB Damone Clark     pick #176     LSU

 

Injury prone LB, already out for his first season, what could go wrong? 

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You know Damone I always stick up for you. They say oh, Damone that loud mouth - and they say that a lot. I say oh, no you just don't know Damone. I mean when they call you an idiot, I say Damone's not an idiot. Well, you know something maybe they know you pretty good. Maybe I'm just starting to find out.

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3 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

I don’t get it. This feels like the worst pick of the Dallas draft so far.

 

Clark underwent spinal fusion surgery on March 24, and he is likely to miss the entire 2022 season. He is expected to make a full recovery, however. -- Steve Muench

Cowboys aren't thinking win now, trying to get value. What a shit show lol

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3 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

I don’t get it. This feels like the worst pick of the Dallas draft so far.

 

Clark underwent spinal fusion surgery on March 24, and he is likely to miss the entire 2022 season. He is expected to make a full recovery, however. -- Steve Muench

Yeah even if it’s full recovery…I don’t see much upside for a guy that’s whole job involves him running and hitting people as hard as possible. But good luck to him for sure and his spine

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43 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Cooper was going to get cut. If he had any trade value multiple teams would have been involved bidding against each other. He went to the fucking Browns. 

Pretty much all the WRs that got traded for high picks got massive extensions. No one was going to give Cooper an extension, especially not after paying his 20 mil salary. 

I don't understand why people keep harping on how low of a pick they got for him. The larger the market and demand, the higher the pick. Clearly no one thought he was worth a high pick, or they would've offered one. 

Or. People know Dallas front office is a bunch of hillbilly morons and are easy to fleece on both sides of trades. The same front office who gave up what they did for Joey Galloway and then Roy Williams. I don't care what you say, you can not convince me a talent like Cooper can not get more than a 5th round pick. They knew Dallas did not want to keep him and were desperate. So they offloaded him at the very first offer they got. Cleveland got a damn good player for absolutely nothing. 5th round picks are extreme long shots to be worth a damn. 

Spin it all you want. This front office is dogshit. 

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2 minutes ago, DougO said:

The Cowboys seem to be really sold on Biadasz, who has literally cost them games getting trown around like a rag doll. I guess this is the year he really puts it all together.

Not surprising. They also tried to sell us that LVE and Jaylon were going to be cornerstones going forward. The clown show circus rolls on.

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Actually one of the better picks. Clark was a very high LB prospect, would have been drafted maybe 2nd round if not for the likely hood of missing next season. 

Spinal fusion is not a sprained knee. He may have no football future.
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17 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

So far, no draft day trades by Cowboys -- nice effort war room

Eagles just made trade in Rd #6

get #181..... Give up #188 and 237

 

cowboys have ZERO draft day trades so far.

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13 minutes ago, DougO said:

Actually one of the better picks. Clark was a very high LB prospect, would have been drafted maybe 2nd round if not for the likely hood of missing next season. 

Or he might never play again.

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13 minutes ago, lilMAC25 said:

I don’t get it. This feels like the worst pick of the Dallas draft so far.

 

Clark underwent spinal fusion surgery on March 24, and he is likely to miss the entire 2022 season. He is expected to make a full recovery, however. -- Steve Muench

He was a top 50ish pick without the injury and they got him at 173?  And yes, it's a long recovery, but if he does recover, then you got yourself a starting level talent.  

 

24 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Injury prone LB, already out for his first season, what could go wrong? 

I don't believe he had any major injuries beyond the herniated disc.  5th/6th rounds are where you pick risk and stash players, I have no problems with.  Name the past 5 5th rounders?  

 

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17 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Or. People know Dallas front office is a bunch of hillbilly morons and are easy to fleece on both sides of trades. The same front office who gave up what they did for Joey Galloway and then Roy Williams. I don't care what you say, you can not convince me a talent like Cooper can not get more than a 5th round pick. They knew Dallas did not want to keep him and were desperate. So they offloaded him at the very first offer they got. Cleveland got a damn good player for absolutely nothing. 5th round picks are extreme long shots to be worth a damn. 

Spin it all you want. This front office is dogshit. 

The front office is dogshit, but you're living in a fantasy if you think they took the first offer real quick. It was known after the end of the season that he was gone. Plenty of teams had the opportunity to get him and they didn't. Why? Because he wasn't worth more than a 5th round pick. 

Trades are about supply and demand, or getting lucky and finding an idiot team to pay way more than they're worth. His salary was becoming fully guaranteed so they didn't have the luxury of waiting around forever until they got a better offer. 

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57 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Everyone knew even without them saying anything. It's very simple, no team other than the Browns was willing to pay him 20 mil + 5th round pick. They were trying to trade him for months. If another team valued him more, he would've been traded to them. The teams waiting around for him to be cut clearly didn't value him enough to secure his services with a pick higher than the 5th round. 

An aging and often injured WR who disappears half the season is not going to command a premium in the trade market. 

he was worth more than a 5th. jerry and stephen are bad at their job. everyone in the business and their dog knows this was one of the worst trades in recent memory. but totallynotabuttpirate says otherwise. I guess everyone else is wrong. 

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Again, the huge mistake with Cooper was not the shitty return for letting him go. It was the first round pick and massive contract that it cost them for a player that was never going to live up to the fantasy pipe dream the fell for. His history was always inconsistency, having off years, off games, high maintenance and rarely a guy that takes over games when they need it the most. He was always more of a Jarvis Landry type with Hollywood marketing. The Raiders knew that.

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5 minutes ago, DougO said:

Again, the huge mistake with Cooper was not the shitty return for letting him go. It was the first round pick and massive contract that it cost them for a player that was never going to live up to the fantasy pipe dream the fell for. His history was always inconsistency, having off years, off games, high maintenance and rarely a guy that takes over games when they need it the most. He was always more of a Jarvis Landry type with Hollywood marketing. The Raiders knew that.

Yea, that makes sense.

It's just funny seeing the same narrative over and over that the Cowboys could've gotten more for the trade. From who? Some imaginary team? There hasn't been a single shred of evidence that anyone else was willing to pay more. Anything else is just straight wishcasting. 

Something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it. 

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