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16 minutes ago, satyanash said:

Uh-oh.

 

Ha.  The Big 10 and SEC should just break away, add a few schools. form divisions and play their own championship.  and fuck Notre Dame on the way out.  they can play the winner of ACC, Big 12 for the "other" championship.

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Posted
5 hours ago, RGBIII said:

Yep, y'all compile a list and I can answer

I barely know shit about fuck re: details of the new house settlement. What I do know has been gleaned from y'all. I don't think I know enough to ask pertinent questions.

If someone has time and is willing, I would enjoy a breakdown of how this impacts recruits going forward (esp related to Texas) from someone with an "insider" perspective. 

If/when this post is written, maybe some of us on the out looking in would have some relevant/specific questions to ask to those of you who have the knowledge to answer. 

Maybe it's been posted above, but if there are sites, articles, etc to read to gain knowledge on this without y'all having to regurgitate something already mentioned, please post a link. 

I am interested in this discussion, but feel I don't have the knowledge of the current landscape to be involved. 

So... 2026+ recruiting 101?

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58 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

Dumb question amnesty: Do these NIL offers come with financial counseling for the players?

The 6.2L V8 on the new Escalade is unreliable and gets a wildly impractical 12 mpg but it has a goddamn IMAX screen in the dashboard. That's always going to appeal to a high school kid, financial counseling or no.

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Just now, satyanash said:

The 6.2L V8 on the new Escalade is unreliable and gets a wildly impractical 12 mpg but it has a goddamn IMAX screen in the dashboard. That's always going to appeal to a high school kid, financial counseling or no.

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Man, fuck those screen based infotainment setups. Super unsafe.. So happy brands are shifting back to switches/dials/toggles that you can adjust without taking your eyes off the road.

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Posted
1 hour ago, UDontKnow said:

 

Dumb question amnesty: Do these NIL offers come with financial counseling for the players?

Most collectives offer some form of program, course or even incentive to take counseling. I think you can guess how many of both kids and collectives follow through or give two shits about it

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Posted
2 hours ago, texifornia said:

Man, fuck those screen based infotainment setups. Super unsafe.. So happy brands are shifting back to switches/dials/toggles that you can adjust without taking your eyes off the road.

My thoughts exactly. That's why I'm sticking with Bugatti.  Classic and modern. 

Posted
38 minutes ago, cafe society said:

Isn't it a violation to pay commits until they are on campus?

Depends on the state law. Texas law says you’re ineligible if you receive money before stepping on campus 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Burt Macklin said:

Interesting Reddit post about a legit contract with real obligations for the player from a collective getting denied. 
 


 

 

How exactly is a collective wanting to pay 500k to an athlete for appearances and such not a legitimate business when streamers, rappers, influencers,famous people have huge appearance fees?

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How exactly is a collective wanting to pay 500k to an athlete for appearances and such not a legitimate business when streamers, rappers, influencers,famous people have huge appearance fees?

Because the collective is paying the athlete to advertise the collective, whose purpose is to pay athletes. In other words, it’s bullshit.
Posted
10 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

How exactly is a collective wanting to pay 500k to an athlete for appearances and such not a legitimate business when streamers, rappers, influencers, famous people have huge appearance fees?

It appears that the CSC has taken it upon itself to define collectives as not providing a "real," profit-driven product or service; therefore, the collectives paying athletes to appear/post/etc. on behalf of the collective -- rather than on behalf of a business providing any other products/services to the public -- is not a valid business purpose. That's a point made over and over (and over and over) in that Reddit discussion and people still keep asking the question and giving that answer.

While there's a certain logic behind that CSC definition, it ignores the fact that collectives ultimately do promote an underlying product/service (entertainment -- i.e., collegiate sporting events that depend on public interest and attendance). 

Streamers, rappers, etc., usually hawk products and services for outside entities. But the question becomes whether the middlemen (agencies, representatives -- the equivalent of NIL collectives) who employ endorsers to hawk stuff are, in general, providers of product/service themselves. Clearly, as middlemen in the marketing business, they are.

It's a fine distinction that may not hold up, and the House attorneys now going after the CSC are doing what legal middlemen everywhere do: making money out of the business of law by arguing about definitions of stuff. And the money keeps flowing upward to the attorneys, the marketers, the elite athletes, elite programs (including the athletic directors and all those employed under them), yada yada yada.

Maybe the CSC is just trying to prop up the disappearing belief that college sports are not a business, but an important educational activity driven by other purposes and values.

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I’m a little confused or maybe surprised about what’s going on in recruiting/NIL. From listening to BB, every school has 20-22mil to spend on athletes( all athletes not just football). Anything on top of that would have to be NIL vetted by a new guy hired after the House Settlement. If Texas Tech promised Ojo anywhere close to 1 mil and their softball pitcher is at 1 mil, they’re paying 10% of their allotment for a guy that probably won’t play for two years and a softball pitcher? If part of that is based on NIL and the deal gets denied all hell breaks loose?

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Posted
32 minutes ago, SuckitKevin said:

I’m a little confused or maybe surprised about what’s going on in recruiting/NIL. From listening to BB, every school has 20-22mil to spend on athletes( all athletes not just football). Anything on top of that would have to be NIL vetted by a new guy hired after the House Settlement. If Texas Tech promised Ojo anywhere close to 1 mil and their softball pitcher is at 1 mil, they’re paying 10% of their allotment for a guy that probably won’t play for two years and a softball pitcher? If part of that is based on NIL and the deal gets denied all hell breaks loose?

Every school can spend up to $20.5 million of its athletic revenue this year ... assuming they have said revenue ... on the athletes. NIL is separate. I haven't seen anything definitive on whether the Canady and Ojo contracts (if they are contracts) are Tech athletic revenue, NIL, or both. Regardless, there will be a lot of accounting tricks going on. Schools don't have to spend $20.5 million from revenue, especially if they don't have enough excess revenue. A lot of them won't.  And they don't have to spend it equally among programs, which would seem to have some implications for Title IX.

At the same time, Congress (having implemented Title IX and, now, revenue sharing) has set up itself, and the rest of us, for interesting times. They've admitted revenue is a huge part of what's driving all of this, when Title IX generally ignored the realities of which sports generated excess revenue (football and men's basketball -- and virtually nothing else, with very rare exceptions).

Haven't seen some of this info before and it was AI generated, so take it for what it's worth: "The initial cap for this compensation is set at $20.5 million per institution for the 2025-26 academic year, based on 22% of the average revenue from Power 5 conference schools [emphasis mine]. This cap is projected to increase by roughly 4% annually, potentially reaching $33 million by 2035." Because it's average revenue from P5s, we know that below-average schools are going to have to be more creative. 

Those are just some of the reasons why this is so confusing. And interesting. As you noted, it's hell breaking loose.

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Posted
5 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

A YouTube channel is a legitimate business entity. 

Speaking of .. who is the host of the Texas One Fund YouTube channel?

He said “number 40 is my father-in-law” referring to a member of the Texas Football HoF in a video with KJ Lacey, Justice Terry, and Lance Jackson.

Posted (edited)
42 minutes ago, statsman said:

Question- I understand TexasOne is staying independent of the AD, while 1Oklahomah is being rolled into their AD. What are the ramifications of each choice?

SurlyGPT: Tell me what to think even though much of what I'm asking is un-knowable at this time. I demand answers now. 

Oklahoma has no other money than what they can siphon off their AD, so it probably doesn't make much difference. TexasOne can have the flexibility of being an adder on top of the AD money. Which is why they've shifted the focus from charitable contributions to interacting with local businesses. Does Norman, or even Oklahoma, HAVE local businesses with the kind of pockets to move NIL needles? To be determined, I guess. 

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8 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

SurlyGPT: Tell me what to think even though much of what I'm asking is un-knowable at this time. I demand answers now. 

Oklahoma has no other money than what they can siphon off their AD, so it probably doesn't make much difference. TexasOne can have the flexibility of being an adder on top of the AD money. Which is why they've shifted the focus from charitable contributions to interacting with local businesses. Does Normal, or even Oklahoma, HAVE local businesses with the kind of pockets to move NIL needles? To be determined, I guess. 

Thanks. I wondered if it was as simple as: OU’s AD, even after layoffs, can’t make their $20.5M nut without 1Oklahomah, and Bellmont better be able to make its nut without TexasOne. 

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1 minute ago, statsman said:

Thanks. I wondered if it was as simple as: OU’s AD, even after layoffs, can’t make their $20.5M nut without 1Oklahomah, and Bellmont better be able to make its nut without TexasOne. 

I think most major (call it 20-30) college football teams are going to find the 20.5 million dollar limit. By hook or by crook, they'll find the money for football. The real differentiators for winning programs will be a combination of a) Who stops at 20.5 and doesn't break the rules and b) who has other streams that will make it past the POS deloitte clearinghouse to sweeten the pot. Because roster payrolls aren't stopping at 20.5

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Posted
31 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

... roster payrolls aren't stopping at 20.5

At 85 scholarship players, that's $240K per year "salary". That seems like enough to satisfy a lot of the players. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

At 85 scholarship players, that's $240K per year "salary". That seems like enough to satisfy a lot of the players. 

Yeah, ok. Are you a former "They should just be happy to get a degree from the by gawd University of Texas!!!" camp of bullshit I had to sit through at Longhorn Foundation meetings? 

There's a lot of "Should Be" thrown around casually in this world. We should be nicer to each other. We should be yada yada yada. But that's not how the world works. Thinking anything otherwise is going back to the world of Texas getting it's teeth kicked in while the bag game rules the game. 

 

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Posted
30 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Yeah, ok. Are you a former "They should just be happy to get a degree from the by gawd University of Texas!!!" camp of bullshit I had to sit through at Longhorn Foundation meetings? 

 

 

I went to damned near every game in 2005. There would be 50,000 “#10” jerseys in the stands. Probably about $1M net to Bellmont and zip to Vince. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Tex Long said:

How does it work? How do you allocate your $20.5 megabucks?

Go back and re-read my post. If your question is “how do you allocate your money” then you didn’t understand my point. 

Posted
3 hours ago, statsman said:

Question- I understand TexasOne is staying independent of the AD, while 1Oklahomah is being rolled into their AD. What are the ramifications of each choice?

Oklahoma is broke and need as much as they can get so that they can give out full revenue sharing I’d assume

Posted
1 hour ago, statsman said:

I went to damned near every game in 2005. There would be 50,000 “#10” jerseys in the stands. Probably about $1M net to Bellmont and zip to Vince. 

Jersey sales even in NFL does not make the player very much money due to all the licensing fees and everything that is taken out before net gains

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Couple of Questions.

What's the escalator on the $20.5M?

Also, although I realize the former NIL rules made the bag game a bit more above board (subject to state NIL laws and actual compliance), but nothing about it prohibited or even really discouraged the ol' bag game as a supplement, and itself was a bit of a bag game.

 

Posted
On 7/12/2025 at 2:59 PM, VirginiaLonghorn said:

Speaking of .. who is the host of the Texas One Fund YouTube channel?

He said “number 40 is my father-in-law” referring to a member of the Texas Football HoF in a video with KJ Lacey, Justice Terry, and Lance Jackson.

Wheels or something like that.

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