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On 5/6/2023 at 12:16 AM, Voldemort86 said:

It is fucking  bullshit how recruiters can be lazy, mess something up, or forget about something, but the jobseeker has to be “perfect”.

Seems like a good majority of the “happy to announce I’m starting a new role at” posts on linked in are talent recruitment people just moving from place to place, probably replacing each other. 

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Time to ramp back up.  My last day at the current job is Friday, September 15.   I had slowed down on applying as I get closer because there was no use in losing the severance package unless it was for a really great opportunity (read:  a lot more money/good landing spot.)   Just 6 apps in the last 60 days.   I've still been looking to remain in the Learning & Development/Change Management/Organizational Effectiveness space with most of my apps being insurance/retirement/consulting related but there has been a sprinkling of other industries.    

I've had several people look over my resume including a recruiter friend and there were some tweaks suggested but nothing major.  I have results oriented data highlighted (% increases in quality, decreases in costs, decreases in attrition, Employee Engagement work and Leadership Development, etc.)   One thing I have done is paired my resume down to the last 12 years (all with AIG/Corebridge).   If I need to go back to the my previous role type (retirement plan administration) I'll add those years back in but they only add to what I did from 2012-2018.  Other than lengthening the resume and highlighting that I'm older, I'm not sure how that helps.  

But damn if I'm not a little pissed off right now.  Overwhelmingly, I have gotten the "thanks but not thanks" emails or no reply at all other than the initial "thanks for applying."   Almost a 1/3 of the jobs I've applied for are closed/no longer posted but I never got a "no thanks" email.   The funniest part of that is the consulting firms are some of the worst.   Deloitte, McKinsey, Stout, etc. suck at notifying.   I mark them off when the position stops showing as available not because they told me. 

Another place that sucks at this is Insperity.  They are right here in my backyard. I did have a job prospect with them that I interviewed for back in December but 3 other jobs over the last 8 months closed without ever getting notified.   

So, yeah, I'm pissed but not panicking yet.   I have my job for another 3.5 months.   If I need to take the severance as paychecks instead of a lump, I can extend that out until February.   There are some ancillary add-ons that I'll get (pro-rated bonus, etc.) that make up a nice little piece of extra cash.  If I don't have something lined up for late September/early October, I have something I can do part time keep me busy and bring in a little extra.   We'll have 2 kids in college next year but thankfully that is all taken care of from a financial perspective.  Good planning years ago pays off.

In conclusion, this sucks.

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I just want to reiterate, I have never once gotten a “no thanks, we’ve filled that position” from a company. That seems to be typical(?) but I didn’t even know it was a thing until this thread. My CV just out there floating in a few places, I assumed.
 

Sucks you are still hunting. Something will come your way.  

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1 hour ago, Macanudo said:

We'll have 2 kids in college next year but thankfully that is all taken care of from a financial perspective.  Good planning years ago pays off.

In conclusion, this sucks.

Weird question from the Shaggy or Hornfan days: Did you use to live in Anchorage and have a wife who was a military doc?

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2 hours ago, Macanudo said:

Time to ramp back up.  My last day at the current job is Friday, September 15.   I had slowed down on applying as I get closer because there was no use in losing the severance package unless it was for a really great opportunity (read:  a lot more money/good landing spot.)   Just 6 apps in the last 60 days.   I've still been looking to remain in the Learning & Development/Change Management/Organizational Effectiveness space with most of my apps being insurance/retirement/consulting related but there has been a sprinkling of other industries.    

I've had several people look over my resume including a recruiter friend and there were some tweaks suggested but nothing major.  I have results oriented data highlighted (% increases in quality, decreases in costs, decreases in attrition, Employee Engagement work and Leadership Development, etc.)   One thing I have done is paired my resume down to the last 12 years (all with AIG/Corebridge).   If I need to go back to the my previous role type (retirement plan administration) I'll add those years back in but they only add to what I did from 2012-2018.  Other than lengthening the resume and highlighting that I'm older, I'm not sure how that helps.  

But damn if I'm not a little pissed off right now.  Overwhelmingly, I have gotten the "thanks but not thanks" emails or no reply at all other than the initial "thanks for applying."   Almost a 1/3 of the jobs I've applied for are closed/no longer posted but I never got a "no thanks" email.   The funniest part of that is the consulting firms are some of the worst.   Deloitte, McKinsey, Stout, etc. suck at notifying.   I mark them off when the position stops showing as available not because they told me. 

Another place that sucks at this is Insperity.  They are right here in my backyard. I did have a job prospect with them that I interviewed for back in December but 3 other jobs over the last 8 months closed without ever getting notified.   

So, yeah, I'm pissed but not panicking yet.   I have my job for another 3.5 months.   If I need to take the severance as paychecks instead of a lump, I can extend that out until February.   There are some ancillary add-ons that I'll get (pro-rated bonus, etc.) that make up a nice little piece of extra cash.  If I don't have something lined up for late September/early October, I have something I can do part time keep me busy and bring in a little extra.   We'll have 2 kids in college next year but thankfully that is all taken care of from a financial perspective.  Good planning years ago pays off.

In conclusion, this sucks.

Good news, maybe, is that job openings have surged to a 3-month high, indicating that maybe the market might be softening for you as you start looking again here soon.

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Job vacancies jumped to 10.1 million in April, the highest in three months, confounding economists' expectations of a modest decline. The Labor Department’s Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey also showed there were 1.8 available positions for each unemployed individual, also a three-month high. The report, which showed layoffs falling from March, raises expectations that the Federal Reserve could keep lifting interest rates to combat inflation, which it says has been fed by a demand for workers and consequent wage growth.

 

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1 hour ago, Bevo said:

Weird question from the Shaggy or Hornfan days: Did you use to live in Anchorage and have a wife who was a military doc?

Fairbanks and yeah.   A long, long, long time ago.   

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Hang in there bro, sometimes the wait is so worth it. I turned down two jobs before accepting my current one in April.

I'm a huge proponent of leveraging Linkedin for jobs and referrals. Sometimes it just takes that one person to read your post and boom the rest is history. My last two jobs have come from LI.

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On 5/31/2023 at 11:14 PM, fattyflattie said:

I just want to reiterate, I have never once gotten a “no thanks, we’ve filled that position” from a company.

This. In the modern age, software is collecting hundreds if not thousands of resumes for each posting. No one is sending individual response letters any more. And quite likely 90% of the resumes never get looked at by a human.

That said, I've also known a few cases where the software matched the resume to a new, totally different job posting over a year later, and flagged that resume as a hit. Unlikely, but hiring and finding a job is just a whole different world now. Leaving your resume hanging out there doesn't hurt.

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On 5/31/2023 at 3:43 PM, Mother mopar said:

Hang in there bro, sometimes the wait is so worth it. I turned down two jobs before accepting my current one in April.

I'm a huge proponent of leveraging Linkedin for jobs and referrals. Sometimes it just takes that one person to read your post and boom the rest is history. My last two jobs have come from LI.

Those LI posts are heartbreaking.  
 

I’m at a startup and am loving life.  They do pay less than the big boys but that’s something I will address down the road

 

 

 

good luck all

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I don’t know about a job “fair” but I went to a Microsoft virtual career thing in 2020 (got a link sent to me from a coworker but I don’t think it was a thing that was closed or anything) - i “raised my hand” and said hi here’s my background I’d love to learn more and got hooked up with an internal recruiter immediately who saw me through the process of interviewing with the right team. I didn’t get a job out of it but it was a definite thing that was worthwhile as compared to firing my resume at their resume shields.

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7 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

I don’t know about a job “fair” but I went to a Microsoft virtual career thing in 2020 (got a link sent to me from a coworker but I don’t think it was a thing that was closed or anything) - i “raised my hand” and said hi here’s my background I’d love to learn more and got hooked up with an internal recruiter immediately who saw me through the process of interviewing with the right team. I didn’t get a job out of it but it was a definite thing that was worthwhile as compared to firing my resume at their resume shields.

And once you are invited or go to that sort of thing, they keep you in a mailing list and will reach out to you when they have a need or are doing another in person event in your metro

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