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3 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Also kicked a cameraman in the nuts.  He was an attention whore. Just like reese

 

The WNBA had 22 regular-season games last year that averaged more than 1 million viewers — the first time since 2008 that a WNBA game topped 1 million viewers. If you add in the WNBA All-Star Game and the WNBA Draft, that makes 24 WNBA events that topped 1 million viewers during the 2024 calendar year.

Clark was part 21 of those 24 windows, per Sports Media Watch. And last year, six different WNBA television partners set viewership records for their highest WNBA game. All six involved the Fever.

The Indiana/Dallas games will do big numbers. 
 

6 hours ago, ztejas said:

The W is about to blow up. Very good basketball product - ready-made megastar - ton of super good-looking players across the league. 

I tried to fucking tell y'all...

There’s definitely a bump in youth basketball participation since Caitlin hit the scene, so the interest and ratings should build over time. 
 

That said, it still pales in comparison to the numbers in youth volleyball, which is a total racket. 

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12 hours ago, Blotto said:

If the wnba ever spreads it's wings and has a full all-star weekend, Reese is gonna be a menace in that Sat night flat-footed rebound contest. 

Cheryl Miller had the best idea for all-star weekend for the W and that is a 3 point shootout between Clark and Sabrina.

Posted
6 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I know Aja deserves to have her signature shoe but good lord Nike not rolling out a signature shoe last year for Clark was beyond stupid from them.

It usually takes a while for a signature shoe and design. When they roll it out, it will dominate the market.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Kermit said:

It usually takes a while for a signature shoe and design. When they roll it out, it will dominate the market.

It shouldnt take over a yr.   Hell Nike had Air Jordans out by the end of MJ's rookie yr 40yrs ago and back then no one knew what they would do.    They KNOW a CC shoe will print money.

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Posted
12 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Also kicked a cameraman in the nuts.  He was an attention whore. Just like reese

 

The WNBA had 22 regular-season games last year that averaged more than 1 million viewers — the first time since 2008 that a WNBA game topped 1 million viewers. If you add in the WNBA All-Star Game and the WNBA Draft, that makes 24 WNBA events that topped 1 million viewers during the 2024 calendar year.

Clark was part 21 of those 24 windows, per Sports Media Watch. And last year, six different WNBA television partners set viewership records for their highest WNBA game. All six involved the Fever.

So, she is basically Texas during football season in the Big 12 which means she should be leaving for a bigger league in a couple of years.  

Posted
2 minutes ago, PGFrog said:

So, she is basically Texas during football season in the Big 12 which means she should be leaving for a bigger league in a couple of years.  

What bigger league would that be?

 

Posted
3 minutes ago, d2o said:

It shouldnt take over a yr.   Hell Nike had Air Jordans out by the end of MJ's rookie yr 40yrs ago and back then no one knew what they would do.    They KNOW a CC shoe will print money.

Sonny Voccaro knew. 

Posted
1 minute ago, d2o said:

What bigger league would that be?

 

Europe maybe,  Spain has a decent women's league, pays well comparable to the WNBA, and not a bad place to live.  

Not much different than what we see from the better men's and women's soccer players going overseas.  

I understand ztejas position about how viewership is going to grow because of all the participation in the youth leagues etc... which will translate into viewers.

When I was in elementary school my Mom signed me up for a youth soccer program and we went to watch Kyle Rote Jr and the Dallas Tornado play at Ownbey Stadium. That gives you a hint how long ago this was and at the time we heard the very same thing.  Soccer will eventually become very popular in the US because of all the youth players who will eventually become viewers etc.....and it did grow a bit.  

If you expect Clark to raise the profile of the league similar to what Magic and Bird did for the NBA she and her team need to win titles and force the rest of the league to elevate their games otherwise she is Pete Maravich playing in obscurity in Atlanta and  New Orleans ,

Posted
12 minutes ago, PGFrog said:

Europe maybe,  Spain has a decent women's league, pays well comparable to the WNBA, and not a bad place to live.  

Not much different than what we see from the better men's and women's soccer players going overseas.  

I understand ztejas position about how viewership is going to grow because of all the participation in the youth leagues etc... which will translate into viewers.

When I was in elementary school my Mom signed me up for a youth soccer program and we went to watch Kyle Rote Jr and the Dallas Tornado play at Ownbey Stadium. That gives you a hint how long ago this was and at the time we heard the very same thing.  Soccer will eventually become very popular in the US because of all the youth players who will eventually become viewers etc.....and it did grow a bit.  

If you expect Clark to raise the profile of the league similar to what Magic and Bird did for the NBA she and her team need to win titles and force the rest of the league to elevate their games otherwise she is Pete Maravich playing in obscurity in Atlanta and  New Orleans ,

Meh, those leagues arent bigger.   They just pay more generally.  Soccer is a European game.   Basketball is an American sport.  There is a reason the best players from over there still want to come here.    Higher salary but less US endorsement money isnt an upgrade especially when she would have to be away from home for months at a time.   The next CBA will fix a lot of the salary disparity anyway

Its been one yr.  Magic and Bird didnt move the league from tape delay to billion dollar TV contracts in one season.   

I have no idea how you expect her and her team to have titles already.   Her team made very big moves this season and I expect them to be right there at thee end of the yr.

Posted
5 minutes ago, d2o said:

Meh, those leagues arent bigger.   They just pay more generally.  Soccer is a European game.   Basketball is an American sport.  There is a reason the best players from over there still want to come here.    Higher salary but less US endorsement money isnt an upgrade especially when she would have to be away from home for months at a time.   The next CBA will fix a lot of the salary disparity anyway

Its been one yr.  Magic and Bird didnt move the league from tape delay to billion dollar TV contracts in one season.   

I have no idea how you expect her and her team to have titles already.   Her team made very big moves this season and I expect them to be right there at thee end of the yr.

Your right, Magic and Bird had no impact on the NBA or their teams in their  first years.  

Except,  Boston was +32 in terms on victories in Bird's first season and lost in the second round of the play-offs to the Sixers who went on to play in the  NBA finals.  

If I only could remember who the Sixers lost in that final, oh yeah, the Lakers who were +13 in regular season wins and won the title in a game 6 in which Magic literally willed that team to victory with a stat line of 42 points, 15 rebounds, and 7 assists playing center replacing an injured Kareem.  

You are right in that the 1980 final and the 1981 final were not all broadcast live as the overall ratings for the NBA were very low. We did see however, in 1982 all the finals games were live broadcast and interest was starting to grow as the Lakers won their second title in 3 seasons.  

They played in the Finals a 3rd time in 1984, lost to the Sixers, and then the next season why saw the start of the run of great Finals games against the Celtics.  If the quality of the product hadn't gotten better the NBA was going to be in very big trouble and that is exactly what Magic and Bird did for the game. 

I will say it again, Clark and here team need to win and force the league to raise its level of play to attract new viewers. The WNBA is not a new league, it has been around almost 30 years and the team that dominated the league in those early years no longer exists because people stopped going to the games in Houston. Why?  Quality of play.  

Posted
On 5/17/2025 at 3:50 PM, Message Board User said:

If her teammates could make a fucking layup she'd have about 15 or 20 assists right now.

Missed layups are the backbone of women's basketball. 

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whatever success or popularity that the wnba currently possession 100% due to two things: 1)espn cramming the league down our throats for the last 15 years, and 2)caitlin clark, the first ever women’s player with true mass appeal. the league would fold in half a heartbeat if left to its own devices. everyone outside of wnba players and their literally hundreds of fans understands this. aja wilson gets a shoe because of espn, not because amrcia demands an aja wilson signature shoe. as long as the biggest stars of this league continue to have terribly off putting, selfish, narcissistic, entitled attitudes i will continue to root for the demise of the league. 

also, and i can’t stress this enough: angel reese wouldn’t get minutes on a good boys HS JV team. none. she has more privilege than HVL, CC, and cameron brink combined. she sucks, so so so bad, both at basketball and as a person. 

Posted
1 hour ago, PGFrog said:

Your right, Magic and Bird had no impact on the NBA or their teams in their  first years.  

Except,  Boston was +32 in terms on victories in Bird's first season and lost in the second round of the play-offs to the Sixers who went on to play in the  NBA finals.  

If I only could remember who the Sixers lost in that final, oh yeah, the Lakers who were +13 in regular season wins and won the title in a game 6 in which Magic literally willed that team to victory with a stat line of 42 points, 15 rebounds, and 7 assists playing center replacing an injured Kareem.  

You are right in that the 1980 final and the 1981 final were not all broadcast live as the overall ratings for the NBA were very low. We did see however, in 1982 all the finals games were live broadcast and interest was starting to grow as the Lakers won their second title in 3 seasons.  

They played in the Finals a 3rd time in 1984, lost to the Sixers, and then the next season why saw the start of the run of great Finals games against the Celtics.  If the quality of the product hadn't gotten better the NBA was going to be in very big trouble and that is exactly what Magic and Bird did for the game. 

I will say it again, Clark and here team need to win and force the league to raise its level of play to attract new viewers. The WNBA is not a new league, it has been around almost 30 years and the team that dominated the league in those early years no longer exists because people stopped going to the games in Houston. Why?  Quality of play.  

 

1 hour ago, PGFrog said:

Your right, Magic and Bird had no impact on the NBA or their teams in their  first years.  

Except,  Boston was +32 in terms on victories in Bird's first season and lost in the second round of the play-offs to the Sixers who went on to play in the  NBA finals.  

If I only could remember who the Sixers lost in that final, oh yeah, the Lakers who were +13 in regular season wins and won the title in a game 6 in which Magic literally willed that team to victory with a stat line of 42 points, 15 rebounds, and 7 assists playing center replacing an injured Kareem.  

You are right in that the 1980 final and the 1981 final were not all broadcast live as the overall ratings for the NBA were very low. We did see however, in 1982 all the finals games were live broadcast and interest was starting to grow as the Lakers won their second title in 3 seasons.  

They played in the Finals a 3rd time in 1984, lost to the Sixers, and then the next season why saw the start of the run of great Finals games against the Celtics.  If the quality of the product hadn't gotten better the NBA was going to be in very big trouble and that is exactly what Magic and Bird did for the game. 

I will say it again, Clark and here team need to win and force the league to raise its level of play to attract new viewers. The WNBA is not a new league, it has been around almost 30 years and the team that dominated the league in those early years no longer exists because people stopped going to the games in Houston. Why?  Quality of play.  

No idea where you are going with this.  I never said anything like Magic/Bird had no impact early.   I said the league to didnt go from tape delayed finals to multi-billion dollar TV contracts in one yr.   

CC had a great season and a great showing in the playoffs.  Her team was not good enough last yr but she has a better team this yr.   Not winning a title in her first yr isnt some kind of negative on her or the league in general.

Posted
2 hours ago, Derka said:

whatever success or popularity that the wnba currently possession 100% due to two things: 1)espn cramming the league down our throats for the last 15 years, and 2)caitlin clark, the first ever women’s player with true mass appeal. the league would fold in half a heartbeat if left to its own devices. everyone outside of wnba players and their literally hundreds of fans understands this. aja wilson gets a shoe because of espn, not because amrcia demands an aja wilson signature shoe. as long as the biggest stars of this league continue to have terribly off putting, selfish, narcissistic, entitled attitudes i will continue to root for the demise of the league. 

also, and i can’t stress this enough: angel reese wouldn’t get minutes on a good boys HS JV team. none. she has more privilege than HVL, CC, and cameron brink combined. she sucks, so so so bad, both at basketball and as a person. 

I’m sure they would share similar sentiments towards you if they were forced to hate read your post on this thread. Wishing demise on this league because these women don’t give you the warm and fuzzies is a weird take especially when you watch and enjoy other leagues with men as stars that are total shit bags. Your post gives incel vibes.

Posted
10 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

Wishing demise on this league because these women don’t give you the warm and fuzzies is a weird take

yeah that’s what i said. that’s the issue.

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