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Just now, Wulaw Horn said:

We ain’t losing to no Vandy especially in ATX. 
 

pull yourself together. 

I don't think so, either, but we can't afford to have another letdown game. Pavila put a scare in us last year.

Posted
14 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I've heard Sark comment on two occasions about wanting to stress UF deep and also that the way to beat OU probably includes deep throws.  (That's been a common thing for OU since Stoops showed up, maybe longer.)

So if the first read is (say) a deep post then maybe that explains longer hold times?  Just spit-ballin' here.

I got the same conclusion after hearing Sark. A young QB is not going to deviate from the game plan. This probably explains why Arch was primarily looking for the deep targets against UF.

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This program has a massive, 4+ year investment in Arch Manning. The immediate future of the program and Sark is tied to him playing for Texas. Any mention of Caldwell seeing the field is reactionary and short sighted. Period. 

Even if Arch plays like shit and we lose to Kentucky next week, he should start for the rest of the year. This is non-negotiable stuff.

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Yeah, OU was playing to keep everything in front of them, which is not characteristic of Venables' defenses for the most part.  His secondaries are usually very aggressive.

So, we took what they gave us, and it worked.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Duane Moore said:

Seems important

 

Yep. Vs Florida it was boom/bust and between drops/errant throws/penalties it led to perfect storm of shit. 
 

While some of the screens yesterday I think should be ripped out of playbook (qb spinaround pass back to TE eg) it was a much more conservative passing attack that boosted Arch confidence and kept Oline from having to hold blocks all day b

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I think we all had legitimate concern that Arch could even execute a short passing attack this week. It's an extremely positive sign that his passes were never really in harm's way. 

If he can find a balance between taking the easy completions and attacking downfield, then we're cooking with gas. 

 

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Posted
Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, OU was playing to keep everything in front of them, which is not characteristic of Venables' defenses for the most part.  His secondaries are usually very aggressive.

So, we took what they gave us, and it worked.

Sark called a damn good game and arch was able to execute what Sark needed. Sark took everything that OU’s defense was giving us and picked the meat off the bone clean. If Sark and Arch can have that same kind of synergy from Kentucky on out we will win out. Our defense is good. We have the dudes. Penalties and red zone scoring efficiency are still issues but we were able to overcome both of those things the last two years and at least make the playoffs. Imagine if we can at least cure one of those two things moving forward. But there is danger in my hoping for all that. So I will only focus on the next game. 

 

I can only allow myself to look at Kentucky and Kentucky only. For me having any other future expectations is too much and honestly it puts me in a negative space. We cannot correct the past. Just make continued improvements and mark the next game off the list. 

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Posted
27 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Yeah, but if you look at the last 3 classes we've done anything but "stack talent" on the O-line. We've just kinda adopted a "Trust Flood's evals" mindset and it kinda looks like we got burned there. 

I think baker is the only guy who was in the top 100 in his class.  

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Arch grew up a LOT as a leader today, there is simply no comparison between the first 3 games and the last 3 games, that is just something Ewers never really did, demanding the team give 110% every play from now on like it is the red river is fools gold but during the past 2 CFP years Texas was always playing at 75%, most notable the black hole in the 3rd quarter.

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

Seems important

 

He can make all the throws. Once he puts it all together people’s mouths will drop wide open. He’s just on a learning curve. And he’s making steady improvements despite some Oline stuff and other things.
 

I just hope he will still be playing for Texas (as he has wanted to do since he was a kid) when we see HIM. because one day he will step out onto the field and he will be HIM. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Homercles said:

Wtf is wrong with some of yall?

Signed,

Oklahoma State fan

First world problems my guy. Just nitpicking one the plethora of 5 🌟 quarterbacks we have. You know, like is the 812 Superfast better than the F12 TDF. 

 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, mwaadeeb said:

What I always find interesting (not surprising) is how much smarter I am than 99% of this board.

I know, right? What are we supposed to say to the other 198 guys on this board?

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Posted
43 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I've heard Sark comment on two occasions about wanting to stress UF deep and also that the way to beat OU probably includes deep throws.  (That's been a common thing for OU since Stoops showed up, maybe longer.)

So if the first read is (say) a deep post then maybe that explains longer hold times?  Just spit-ballin' here.

His long hold times is only looking deep. If I were a betting man I’d bet his time to hold yesterday was much lower than his season average coming into the game. Because he was hitting other reads underneath and in check downs that have been open all season. 

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46 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I've heard Sark comment on two occasions about wanting to stress UF deep and also that the way to beat OU probably includes deep throws.  (That's been a common thing for OU since Stoops showed up, maybe longer.)

So if the first read is (say) a deep post then maybe that explains longer hold times?  Just spit-ballin' here.

No my brother. The coverage determines what you do. He was simply holding the ball too long. As he did every game up until yesterday. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

2016

It’s like everyone is hair trigger. Not just this board. Some of it I blame on influencers and Gen Z’ers. But damn it’s in personal lives, at work, on the street, on the news everywhere. Clapping back against haters. When all the haters did was offer up a criticism. I cannot imagine being a teacher these days. People simply do not get how hard a lot of our own parents were on us Gen X and Y folks. That was just a normal Sunday. You say anything now and someone becomes unhinged about anything. No matter how innocuous. 

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The more I think about it, the game manager performance yesterday might have been best case scenario for Arch. Like more preferable than a 400+ yard total offense hero ball blowout victory. He needs to be a complete QB, and the restraint was necessary and great to see. 

Just keep getting better. I'm excited to watch the Kentucky game. 

 

 

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So, we went from there’s something wrong with him because of his shoulder shrugs and grimace when he was throwing to he can’t make a throw to he can’t hit an open receiver to how long he holds onto the ball? From a bunch of people that probably were never a kid playing QB, let alone for the got damn University of Texas, in front of over 100,000 people and we are now bitching about this? 
That’s called an embarrassment of riches. 
What’s next? I’m thinking we be hypercritical of his fingernail length because he’s not gripping the ball right. Or, his reaction time is so bad from when the ball is snapped until it hits his hands. 
JFC, we won. Enjoy it!! Stop with the whataboutisms for at least 43 minutes. 
End of rant

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Posted
18 hours ago, Coach pop a bitch said:

 

DeAndre Moore is so clutch 97.99% of the time. He really came in and hasn't stopped working since. He'll be back next year when Arch is back and the game has really slowed down (for Arch), and he and Wingo/Lockett/Ffrech/McCutcheon are going to feast. Baxter/Wisner (if he hits 2k again he's gone)/Gibson (if he doesn't transfer, will have much more experience and hopefully less fumbles)/Clark (sped of game slowed down)/Simon (speed of game slowed down)/Derek Cooper (will play a lot and hurt people)/Stewart (let's see how much muscle he adds and what he can do) with an improved line.

If Goosby (LT) is back. He should since he's only a RS Soph, Brooks (LG), Robertson/Cruz (better than Hutson, I guarantee it), Kibble (LG) absolute maulers, and Baker (RT) with another year under his belt is already looking better (slowly). 

We gon be good. PK will never allow this defense ti suck, but we will miss Manny, so we gotta figure out who can replace him. 

Posted
40 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

Seems important

 

This really needs more attention. It seems that Sark learned from the Florida disaster. He gave Arch quick, easy throws. Offense moves the ball. Arch gets more confident. Makes better throws later in the game. 

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Posted
49 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

LOL. 

You have numerous posts on this thread mentioning the need to get Caldwell snaps. Your emotional state created the ridiculous idea that we should bench Arch, to the point that Caldwell might be "our Randy McEachern." 

 

I thought Arch would come in from Day 1 this year and be really good. I was wrong. The UTEP game was one of the worst QB performances I've ever seen, and it made me completely recalibrate my expectations for Arch this season. But at no point should he ever have been benched for Caldwell. Bigger picture nothing good comes from benching Arch and playing Caldwell. Nothing. #18 is not the future of the program or this season. It is reactionary bullshit. 

Really pathetic attempt and thoroughly expected. You use a cherry picker to move the goalposts. Your quote contradicts your claim even if cherrypicked. Can you link that quote, btw? Did no one recalibrate their expectation of Arch? Did you not change your expectation? Was UTEP somehow stellar for Arch? Is this even a quote of me beyond the first two sentences? Are you quoting yourself to prove me wrong? WTF is that. 

Let's review my reasonable request for quotes to substantiate yours and the other guy's claims, shall we? 

54 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

If somebody wants to actually quote me, please do. I'm not a therapist for emotional imbalance-induced self-righteousness.

Oh, and do make it complete quotes that prove:

  • I'm still dogging Arch. NOPE
  • I wanted to start Caldwell.  NOPE
  • I wanted to give Caldwell more than a possession to prove himself if put in. NOT REFUTED
  • I have or had even a molecule of antipathy towards Arch. NOT ADDRESSED

Otherwise address others with your hysteria. Still the Foundation of your engagement with me.

Your will to believe things does not make them real. You want to feel like a winner. I will help.

You are a winner. Everybody admires how perfect your record of opinions is. Women adore you. Dogs would change their master at your mere beckoning. Wild-eyed spittle ejaculation is a winning trait. Go ahead and quote me on that. Have it put on a card. 

31 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

This program has a massive, 4+ year investment in Arch Manning. The immediate future of the program and Sark is tied to him playing for Texas. Any mention of Caldwell seeing the field is reactionary and short sighted. Period. 

Even if Arch plays like shit and we lose to Kentucky next week, he should start for the rest of the year. This is non-negotiable stuff.

The above is totally rational and winning. You're the sanest person I know.

You're beating the shit of me. Please stop. I'll die if you continue.

Posted
13 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

No my brother. The coverage determines what you do. He was simply holding the ball too long. As he did every game up until yesterday. 

This assumes there is a WR running a short route and he can check down to it.  That was not always the case in the Florida game. 

Posted
21 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I know, right? What are we supposed to say to the other 198 guys on this board?

I'll take condescending tolerance. We in the lower percentiles are not proud.

Posted
1 hour ago, UTEE97 said:

Despite putting up a very efficient performance against the #1 defense in the country, some people are choosing to harp on the negatives rather than feeling happy about beating our arch rival who we have had trouble beating even with some of our best teams. There are times to be concerned and this definitely ain't it.

We have always had a decent amount of absolute shit 'fans' and this thread is Exhibit A.  I'm 11-16-1 in that stadium.   Can't fathom nitpicking a 17 point W against OU.   

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Only on Surly can we beat ou and literally the next day we go back to arguing. Only here. I'm gonna go see if Asswater has checked his messages, he needs to see this to believe it. We are the weirdest, emotional fan base in the country. Even a win against our rival can't make peace. 

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Posted
Just now, Skipper said:

We have always had a decent amount of absolute shit 'fans' and this thread is Exhibit A. I'm 11-16-1 in that stadium.  Can't fathom nitpicking a 17 point W against OU.   

40 year old virgin GIF
 

 

1 minute ago, RomaVicta said:

Slam dunk! Surrender accepted.

lol wut? Are you ok?

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Arch is improving. He played well yesterday. Sark schemed better for him in the game. I did notice he never gets rid of the ball fast on the very first quick read. I wonder if that’s because Sark isn’t scheming many routes where guys get open quickly across the line of scrimmage, or whether he’s late with the reads. He had to step up and go to second reads a lot yesterday. 

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Posted
54 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

This program has a massive, 4+ year investment in Arch Manning. The immediate future of the program and Sark is tied to him playing for Texas. Any mention of Caldwell seeing the field is reactionary and short sighted. Period. 

Even if Arch plays like shit and we lose to Kentucky next week, he should start for the rest of the year. This is non-negotiable stuff.

Player over program got it 

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Posted
51 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, OU was playing to keep everything in front of them, which is not characteristic of Venables' defenses for the most part.  His secondaries are usually very aggressive.

So, we took what they gave us, and it worked.

Why wouldn’t they have? It’s troubled Sark his entire time at Texas. They, like us probably didn’t expect arch to actually hit check downs or underneath routes because he hasn’t shown that all year 

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Posted
Just now, William Bludworth said:

Only on Surly can we beat ou and literally the next day we go back to arguing. Only here. I'm gonna go see if Asswater has checked his messages, he needs to see this to believe it. We are the weirdest, emotional fan base in the country. Even a win against our rival can't make peace. 

It’s because we need to figure out how to temper our expectations. (By that I don’t mean we shouldn’t expect to play well. And well enough to win the conference and well enough to play in the MNC and well enough to win that.) 

we need temper them to the game directly in front of us, take one fucking game at a time despite our need to look several games into the future and beyond.
 

If most people just looked at Kentucky and what we need to do for that and then the next game and stop looking so fucking far ahead most people would calm the fuck down.

 

I’m guilty of it too. I decided after Florida to simply look at one game at a time. I was far happier yesterday even when the first half looked like a clusterfuck. I was like next quarter. We will come out and smote them down. And we did. One game at a time. Shelve the fucking expectations except that we beat Kentucky. And move onto to next opponent. This looking to January shit is getting us all into an unnecessary tizzy. That and also looking at last year or the year before last like we have a Time Machine and can go back and change the way the playoffs went down. We can’t. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

This assumes there is a WR running a short route and he can check down to it.  That was not always the case in the Florida game. 

Pretty much WAS always the case. Listen, Sark deserves a lot of criticism for a lot of things, but play design isnt one of them. Yesterday was like he was told to hit the checkdown. Dude hit the checkdown yesterday more in one game than he had all season. There were still longer routes he was just prioritizing the short ones. 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Skipper said:

We have always had a decent amount of absolute shit 'fans' and this thread is Exhibit A.  I'm 11-16-1 in that stadium.   Can't fathom nitpicking a 17 point W against OU.   

 

8 minutes ago, William Bludworth said:

Only on Surly can we beat ou and literally the next day we go back to arguing. Only here. I'm gonna go see if Asswater has checked his messages, he needs to see this to believe it. We are the weirdest, emotional fan base in the country. Even a win against our rival can't make peace. 

Honestly the part I don’t get.  We just won a very tense game against our biggest rival and there’s still a handful of posters here complaining just to win an argument.   Guess what, most young qbs can get better.  
 

Enjoy the victory.   If/when he sucks bs UK you can come back here and gloat.  For this week, let’s take the W

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1 minute ago, Thatguy said:

Pretty much WAS always the case. Listen, Sark deserves a lot of criticism for a lot of things, but play design isnt one of them. Yesterday was like he was told to hit the checkdown. Dude hit the checkdown yesterday more in one game than he had all season. There were still longer routes he was just prioritizing the short ones. 

Yep. And it worked. And this is what I would love to see going forward. There was a real synergy between Arch and Sark yesterday and is something to build on. Sark taking what the defense is giving him and giving Arch the plan to execute for that individual opponent and him executing that. That will be amazing to watch if we can build on that shit. The team needed a rivalry game. A Golden Hat winner take all fight. They needed the release after the win to celebrate and be kids, to be reminded of how much fun winning is, we should be alright for Kentucky and that’s as far as I care to think ahead anymore. 

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1 minute ago, Nicole44 said:

It’s because we need to figure out how to temper our expectations. (By that I don’t mean we shouldn’t expect to play well. And well enough to win the conference and well enough to play in the MNC and well enough to win that.) 

we need temper them to the game directly in front of us, take one fucking game at a time despite our need to look several games into the future and beyond.
 

If most people just looked at Kentucky and what we need to do for that and then the next game and stop looking so fucking far ahead most people would calm the fuck down.

 

I’m guilty of it too. I decided after Florida to simply look at one game at a time. I was far happier yesterday even when the first half looked like a clusterfuck. I was like next quarter. We will come out and smote them down. And we did. One game at a time. Shelve the fucking expectations except that we beat Kentucky. And move onto to next opponent. This looking to January shit is getting us all into an unnecessary tizzy. That and also looking at last year or the year before last like we have a Time Machine and can go back and change the way the playoffs went down. We can’t. 

I totally and completely agree. This is one of those years where I actually look at the team and tell myself one game at a time. That's all we need to do. Don't worry about Miss St, UGA, Aggy, whomever. Just One. Game. At. A. Time. 
 

Let Arch get more comfortable. Removing Sloh from the lineup was the best thing to happen. Unbelievable that it took being down by 3 scores to Florida for that to happen, but whatever, that's behind us now. Brooks is a beast. A young buck that will take game by game to get more and more comfortable. But it doesn't matter because his worst is still infinitely better than Sloh's best. 
 

Have you heard of any time table when Baxter might be back? I can't find anything. 

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2 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

 

Honestly the part I don’t get.  We just won a very tense game against our biggest rival and there’s still a handful of posters here complaining just to win an argument.   Guess what, most young qbs can get better.  
 

Enjoy the victory.   If/when he sucks bs UK you can come back here and gloat.  For this week, let’s take the W

Exactly. Arguing just to argue over who's right and who's wrong. Who gives a shit? We just fuck stomped our fucking rival. We should all be celebrating the e tire week and sign a peace treaty. 

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6 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Arch is improving. He played well yesterday. Sark schemed better for him in the game. I did notice he never gets rid of the ball fast on the very first quick read. I wonder if that’s because Sark isn’t scheming many routes where guys get opens quickly across the line of scrimmage, or whether he’s late with the reads. He had to step up and go to second reads a lot yesterday. 

Arch is still slow on the trigger. He’ll get better of course over time. Sark has guys open every play pretty much.  First reads especially.  Arch needs to get faster with the trigger on those plays. He’s young and will get better. 

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2 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

. I decided after Florida to simply look at one game at a time. I was far happier yesterday even when the first half looked like a clusterfuck. I was like next quarter. We will come out and smote them down. And we did. One game at a time. Shelve the fucking expectations except that we beat Kentucky. And move onto to next opponent. This looking to January shit is getting us all into an unnecessary tizzy. That and also looking at last year or the year before last like we have a Time Machine and can go back and change the way the playoffs went down. We can’t. 

That was me. I went into OU with remarkable little feeling or expectation. I'll just react to what I see. The brilliance and violence of the Texas defense was reminiscent of some of those intense option football games of the 70s. I grit my teeth at the futility of the offense, but it wasn't so much on Arch as the OL penalties and other holding calls. Arch didn't subtract, but, IMHO, he didn't add a whole lot either. But he was thwarted no matter what by the line.

Second half, I'm edgy starting, and then Arch comes alive. He leads the offense to more spirited play. The defense plays like a group of angry, fleet hammers.

Great! Now Kentucky.

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6 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Pretty much WAS always the case. Listen, Sark deserves a lot of criticism for a lot of things, but play design isnt one of them. Yesterday was like he was told to hit the checkdown. Dude hit the checkdown yesterday more in one game than he had all season. There were still longer routes he was just prioritizing the short ones. 

which is exactly what people used to skewer Ewers about...

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58 minutes ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

I don’t understand why this couldn’t have been changed during the Florida game.  So frustrating 

team was playing from behind the whole game.

they opened the 2nd half down 2 scores.  large explanation for the high YPA/YPT is playing from behind, AND all those long downs from the 10 penalties.

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the good news is we probably have the most room for improvement of any team out there based on our QB and our OL, now that we might have a functional left guard, which may make the tackle and center better as well.

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4 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

That was me. I went into OU with remarkable little feeling or expectation. I'll just react to what I see. The brilliance and violence of the Texas defense was reminiscent of some of those intense option football games of the 70s. I grit my teeth at the futility of the offense, but it wasn't so much on Arch as the OL penalties and other holding calls. Arch didn't subtract, but, IMHO, he didn't add a whole lot either. But he was thwarted no matter what by the line.

Second half, I'm edgy starting, and then Arch comes alive. He leads the offense to more spirited play. The defense plays like a group of angry, fleet hammers.

Great! Now Kentucky.

Were you there yesterday, too? You weren't the one to call Mateer a fsggot behind us, were you? It had to be a Surly 

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5 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

which is exactly what people used to skewer Ewers about...

The two QBs had the inverse of problems imo. Quinn couldn’t hit deep because he as bad at it, Arch wasn’t hitting check downs and underneath because he was trying to go deep too much 

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