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On 4/30/2024 at 11:09 AM, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

it's not racist or antisemitic to shout at Jewish students. They are fair game and it's not because they are Jewish but showing signs of being pro Israel such as a sign or wearing the Israeli flag. Then again, calling them "kike" is too much and racist, but "Zionazi" is ok with me.  

 

On 4/30/2024 at 10:06 AM, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

the pro-Pals should not hinder movement of anyone, into buildings or grass fields, but there is nothing antisemitic about being against Israel, shouting at Jewish students, or even wanting to destroy Israel. 

 

11 hours ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

to me, a Zionist shouting kill jews is much more interesting.   

So which is it?
Is it ok to yell at jews or not. 

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16 minutes ago, blacklab said:

So which is it?
Is it ok to yell at jews or not. 

 

enemies of the united states do not identify as anti-christian, so why is anyone who is critical of israel an anti-semite?

more than half of israel are really pissed off at likud but here we are in 2024, israel is 80 years old, but any criticism of israel is countered with "anti-semitism" which is by definition an attack on the jewish religion and not the israeli state

we don't teach the history of the jewish people ("zionist history") the same way we have erased mormonism from the history of the western US in the 19th century

it is more than okay to yell at israel and to yell at palestine and to yell at the sauds and jordanians and egyptians and and and and and and

criticism of any arab state is not met with violent opposition screaming "islamophobic!"

only israel has somehow managed to achieve the false equivalency of "questioning israel is an attack on our religion"

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Posted
29 minutes ago, blacklab said:

So which is it?
Is it ok to yell at jews or not. 

It's okay.

I've done it more times than I can remember. "Noah, you fucking asshole, you spilled my can of Copenhagen!" Something I yelled at my buddy during spring break, sophomore year of college.

"Seth, you fat fuck, nobody is picking you!" Noah's fat cousin that complained about not being allowed to join our basketball game in middle school.

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Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, blacklab said:

 

 

So which is it?
Is it ok to yell at jews or not. 

yes, if Jews are engaged with the Arabs in a shouting match, or if Jews are wrapped in the Israeli flag of course. I see your angle, that this is all antisemitic, that being BY FAR the most amateurish mistake made in this issue.  The idea of antisemitism is deeply ingrained in this culture, obviously Holocaust, but antisemitism is not why the Arabs fight the Jews.  Jews are the enemy but they are not the enemy simply because they are Jews.  America did not fight Japan because of Asian racial hatred.  BTW, the 3 things you quoted do not contradict each other. 

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6 hours ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

 

Maybe Taco is really Michael Moore. 

 

 

 

technically Arabs and Jews are Semites, but obviously "antisemitism" refers to Jews. 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Semite

Semite, name given in the 19th century to a member of any people who speak one of the Semitic languages, a family of languages spoken primarily in parts of western Asia and Africa. The term therefore came to include Arabs, Akkadians, Canaanites, Hebrews, some Ethiopians (including the Amhara and the Tigrayans), and Aramaean tribes. Although Mesopotamia, the western coast of the Mediterranean, the Arabian Peninsula, and the Horn of Africa have all been proposed as possible sites for the prehistoric origins of Semitic-speaking populations, there remains no archaeological or scientific evidence of a common Semitic people. Because Semitic-speaking peoples do not share any traits aside from language, use of the term “Semite” to refer to the broad range of Semitic-speaking peoples has fallen out of favour. For this reason, some critics even encourage the removal of the hyphen in the term anti-Semitism to help dispel any pseudoscientific notions of a "Semitic race." They advocate instead for the use of antisemitism to describe the hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious or racial group.

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18 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

yes, if Jews are engaged with the Arabs in a shouting match, or if Jews are wrapped in the Israeli flag of course. I see your angle, that this is all antisemitic, that being BY FAR the most amateurish mistake made in this issue.  The idea of antisemitism is deeply ingrained in this culture, obviously Holocaust, but antisemitism is not why the Arabs fight the Jews.  Jews are the enemy but they are not the enemy simply because they are Jews.  America did not fight Japan because of Asian racial hatred.  BTW, the 3 things you quoted do not contradict each other. 

edit expired.. ok i see what you meant about shouting at Jewish students.  If he's just randomly walking down the street, of course not, but if he's showing pro-Israeli gear, of course it's ok, just as it is for Arab students showing pro-Pal gear. What you quoted was in the context of a protest and counter-protest by pro-Israelis, such as when both gather simultaneously at the west mall. After reading your post and my posts, it's easy to see the confusion on my part and yours. So, no, I don't think you were taking the anti-semitic angle - but thinking I was contradicting myself (which I should have input the context of protest/counterprotest). 

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6 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

 

enemies of the united states do not identify as anti-christian, so why is anyone who is critical of israel an anti-semite?

more than half of israel are really pissed off at likud but here we are in 2024, israel is 80 years old, but any criticism of israel is countered with "anti-semitism" which is by definition an attack on the jewish religion and not the israeli state

we don't teach the history of the jewish people ("zionist history") the same way we have erased mormonism from the history of the western US in the 19th century

it is more than okay to yell at israel and to yell at palestine and to yell at the sauds and jordanians and egyptians and and and and and and

criticism of any arab state is not met with violent opposition screaming "islamophobic!"

only israel has somehow managed to achieve the false equivalency of "questioning israel is an attack on our religion"

The problem is that people chant "from the river to the sea," which basically rules out a two-state solution, but do not explain what will happen to the Jewish people who have inhabited that land for 3+ generations now. It sure sounds like a masked call at best for subjugation of Jews, and at worst for genocide. 

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On 4/30/2024 at 9:09 AM, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

it's not racist or antisemitic to shout at Jewish students. They are fair game and it's not because they are Jewish but showing signs of being pro Israel such as a sign or wearing the Israeli flag. Then again, calling them "kike" is too much and racist, but "Zionazi" is ok with me.  

Yea idk zionazi sounds kind of contradictory given what hitler did to them.  

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1 hour ago, Mikey4 said:

The problem is that people chant "from the river to the sea," which basically rules out a two-state solution, but do not explain what will happen to the Jewish people who have inhabited that land for 3+ generations now. It sure sounds like a masked call at best for subjugation of Jews, and at worst for genocide. 

 

On 4/30/2024 at 10:06 AM, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

there is nothing antisemitic about being against Israel, shouting at Jewish students, or even wanting to destroy Israel. 

I’m with Mikey on this one. Sure we could argue semantics on whether or not wanting the destruction of Israel is anti semetic or not, but it certainly implies you want to kill every resident of the country. I’m sure you’ll argue you don’t but it sure sounds like it to me. 

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Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, blacklab said:

 

I’m with Mikey on this one. Sure we could argue semantics on whether or not wanting the destruction of Israel is anti semetic or not, but it certainly implies you want to kill every resident of the country. I’m sure you’ll argue you don’t but it sure sounds like it to me. 

the original 1948 Arab-Israeli war -- the Arab commanders openly stated they wanted to massacre all the Jews.  I would argue even that is not antisemitism, because the Jews are the enemy but they are not the enemy simply because they are Jews.  Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not murdered due to Asian hatred. There is no antisemitism in this entire conflict, never has been never will be.  It's a rookie mistake and a really easy one to overcome. 

River to the Sea -- I have spoken with several Palestinians on this issue -- what do you want?? They really don't know themselves, but most say equal rights at a minimum.  

the 2 state solution is already dead. Israel is NEVER leaving the west bank, EVER. The Jewish settlers have consumed most of it and that's creeping monthly. The Arabs are being squeezed more and more into ghettos. 

 

"The problem is that people chant "from the river to the sea," which basically rules out a two-state solution, but do not explain what will happen to the Jewish people who have inhabited that land for 3+ generations now. It sure sounds like a masked call at best for subjugation of Jews, and at worst for genocide. "

 

Lets examine Mikey's quote.   Again, Israel has already ruled out a 2 state solution, it's not just Netanyahu, its the vast majority of the Israeli Jewish population.  The Jews already have control from the river to the sea.  Oh golly, Israel has not explained what will happen to the Arab people who have inhabited that land for 50+ generations. You see, the Arabs are invisible in your mind, they don't exist, Jews are paramount in your thinking.  We already have subjugation of the Arabs and we see a "genocide" of Gaza.  Arabs don't matter at all, they are the enemy of America to most.

 

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14 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

the original 1948 Arab-Israeli war -- the Arab commanders openly stated they wanted to massacre all the Jews.  I would argue even that is not antisemitism, because the Jews are the enemy but they are not the enemy simply because they are Jews.  Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not murdered due to Asian hatred. There is no antisemitism in this entire conflict, never has been never will be.  It's a rookie mistake and a really easy one to overcome. 

So, if I say "I want to "massacre all the Jews"," I'm not really saying kill people "because they are Jews," but instead, I'm saying "Jews are the enemy - massacre all?"  I think you outsmarted me on this one.  Maybe try removing the letters "JEW" from your post and replace it with another racial or ethnic term, and see how it plays.  I'll help you get it started:

"The English commanders openly stated they wanted to massacre all the French.  This is not anti-French, because the French are the enemy but they are not the enemy simply because they are French."  "There is no anti-French in this entire conflict, never has been never will be.  Rookie." 

I think your post sucks.

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13 minutes ago, CoTex said:

So, if I say "I want to "massacre all the Jews"," I'm not really saying kill people "because they are Jews," but instead, I'm saying "Jews are the enemy - massacre all?"  I think you outsmarted me on this one.  Maybe try removing the letters "JEW" from your post and replace it with another racial or ethnic term, and see how it plays.  I'll help you get it started:

"The English commanders openly stated they wanted to massacre all the French.  This is not anti-French, because the French are the enemy but they are not the enemy simply because they are French."  "There is no anti-French in this entire conflict, never has been never will be.  Rookie." 

I think your post sucks.

because the French migrated and took over a big chunk of England and the English want to drive them out.  So my post is awesome and yours sucks, because it's very simple and you are indeed a rookie , back to AA ball for you! 

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6 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

because the French migrated and took over a big chunk of England and the English want to drive them out.  So my post is awesome and yours sucks, because it's very simple and you are indeed a rookie , back to AA ball for you! 

 

 

you make this thread unreadable 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

lol,  you honestly believe this.  my word.

Yes.  They never call others _____ phobic or ____ist when it’s unwarranted.  Never happens. Totally not a go to.  

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1 minute ago, Frank Drebin said:

Yes.  They never call others _____ phobic or ____ist when it’s unwarranted.  Never happens. Totally not a go to.  

This thread makes me feel like I am taking crazy pills.

semantic, technical and AKSHUALLY arguments about whether or not, "from the river to the sea" is anti-Semitic.  Or that fat fucking blob Michael Moore AKSUALLY'ing  that chanting about destroying Israel isn't anti-Semitic.  What the actual FUCK?

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14 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

try to post something on topic and I'll respond. 

Your post about the French migrating to England sucks too.  Somewhere, somehow, we're all immigrants.  Leaving Podunk shit town Texas to go to Austin made me a migrant.  Go back far enough in my family tree and we probably lived somewhere in Ethiopia or Kenya, just like the rest of you, who are all descendants of original homo sapiens, making us all immigrants.  I could make some argument for ancestral entitlement to some place all the way from South Texas to North Africa.  And probably there is someone that lived there before me and/or after me that could make an argument too.

You tried to wordsmith the phrase "massacre all the Jews," into "There is no antisemitism in this entire conflict, never has been never will be."  

I think that was bullshit.

I think what you really want to say is "Palestinians have an ancestral right to the land and anyone that gets in their way should be subject to eviction. Even if that requires violence. Jew, redneck or Oklahoma fan, you don't care - if they're on "Palestine," forcibly evict them."  But that's already been said and you want a hot take.

You don't hate Jews because of their genetics, you hate them because they're holding the thing you want.

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18 minutes ago, CoTex said:

Your post about the French migrating to England sucks too.  Somewhere, somehow, we're all immigrants.  Leaving Podunk shit town Texas to go to Austin made me a migrant.  Go back far enough in my family tree and we probably lived somewhere in Ethiopia or Kenya, just like the rest of you, who are all descendants of original homo sapiens, making us all immigrants.  I could make some argument for ancestral entitlement to some place all the way from South Texas to North Africa.  And probably there is someone that lived there before me and/or after me that could make an argument too.

You tried to wordsmith the phrase "massacre all the Jews," into "There is no antisemitism in this entire conflict, never has been never will be."  

I think that was bullshit.

I think what you really want to say is "Palestinians have an ancestral right to the land and anyone that gets in their way should be subject to eviction. Even if that requires violence. Jew, redneck or Oklahoma fan, you don't care - if they're on "Palestine," forcibly evict them."  But that's already been said and you want a hot take.

You don't hate Jews because of their genetics, you hate them because they're holding the thing you want.

it's tribal warfare, Jew tribe vs. Arab tribe.  Many nations are formed by one tribe overpowering the other, that's history and that is what we see today. But it's not simply because they are Jews, it's because they are the enemy tribe, easy.  Jews wanted to establish their ethnostate on top of the native Arab population, so we had war.  Doesn't mean the war was based on antisemitism, but this idiocy is based on deeply ingrained western cultural concepts. Your final sentence makes you down to AA ball -- no I don't hate Jews.  My remedy is a 1 state solution where the Jews take over the west bank (which they already have) but give the Arabs full citizenship as do the 2 million Israeli Arabs. Then it's over. 

There is no Jew hatred by me, I want them to take everything in a formal annexation.  Duh.  

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2 hours ago, blacklab said:

 

I’m with Mikey on this one. Sure we could argue semantics on whether or not wanting the destruction of Israel is anti semetic or not, but it certainly implies you want to kill every resident of the country. I’m sure you’ll argue you don’t but it sure sounds like it to me. 

National survey of college students conducted by the Univeristy of Chicago:

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Pape, of the University of Chicago, said some fears are driven by a “tragic misunderstanding” of the other side’s intentions. The most frequently used pro-Palestinian protest chant — “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” — is understood in dramatically different ways by various students.

The survey found that 66% of Jewish students interpreted it as a call for the expulsion and genocide of Israeli Jews, a perception closely linked to fears for their safety.

By contrast, 14% of Muslim students interpreted the chant that way. Rather, 76% of those surveyed understood it as a call for Palestinians and Israelis to live side by side in two separate countries or in one state.

Among all students, 42% understood the chant as a call for mutual existence, compared with 26% of those who believed it advocates for the expulsion and genocide of Israeli Jews.

The overwhelming share of students, including Jews and Muslims, said they abhor political violence and that calls for genocide were unacceptable.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-05-02/student-fears-triggered-by-israel-palestinian-tensions-skyrocket

Can anyone find the survey tweeted by a citizen journalist so that Sack knows he can trust it?

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Posted
13 minutes ago, royiv said:

Expert is giving him too much credit.

I dunno. I don't think I've seen the "I'm pro Israeli genocide of Gaza, but I'm also pro threatening the genocide of Jewish people as long as it's couched as genocide of Israeli people" before. That's pretty impressive.

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13 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

it's tribal warfare, Jew tribe vs. Arab tribe.  Many nations are formed by one tribe overpowering the other, that's history and that is what we see today. But it's not simply because they are Jews, it's because they are the enemy tribe, easy.  Jews wanted to establish their ethnostate on top of the native Arab population, so we had war.  Doesn't mean the war was based on antisemitism, but this idiocy is based on deeply ingrained western cultural concepts. Your final sentence makes you down to AA ball -- no I don't hate Jews.  My remedy is a 1 state solution where the Jews take over the west bank (which they already have) but give the Arabs full citizenship as do the 2 million Israeli Arabs. Then it's over. 

There is no Jew hatred by me, I want them to take everything in a formal annexation.  Duh.  

If the game is "one tribe overpowering the other," isn't that what we have now?  Seems like the tribe with the Blue Star on their flag is beating the ever-loving shit out of the other tribe.  Those Blue Star guys seem to be winning by a lot.  Right?

 

 


 

 

 

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Posted
4 hours ago, Mikey4 said:

The problem is that people chant "from the river to the sea," which basically rules out a two-state solution, but do not explain what will happen to the Jewish people who have inhabited that land for 3+ generations now. It sure sounds like a masked call at best for subjugation of Jews, and at worst for genocide. 

And Netanyahu himself has ruled out a two-state solution clearly stating that Israel aims for full control of "all territory west of Jordan" and his directives have already resulted in 40K Palestinian deaths. Its two sides of the same stupid fucking sky daddy coin. You may find chanting "from the river to the sea" a horrific offense, and many others feel the same way about slaughtering Palestinians and subjecting the rest to a horrific standard of living.

So lets not clutch pearls over a pithy chant while pretending  Netanyahu doesn't plan on subjugating Palestinians (he has stated exactly that) or that he hasn't taken a pretty big lead in the genocide category as well. Its a shitshow over there and I expect that to continue as long as the hardliners on both sides call the shots. Jailing protestors in the US for expressing support for the Palestinian cause is just politically motivated horseshit. 

 

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There has never been a more confusing foreign relations issue for me in my lifetime.  I have many Jewish friends, and many Muslim friends.  I just don't engage in the homeland discussions.  I can't see any clear solution.  Many devout Jews will claim complete ownership of that region dating back to Abraham, but that doesn't pass the sniff test, because there have always been a lot more people of other religions & ethnicities there.

I do know this:  I wish they'd stop shooting each other.  What a shitshow.

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33 minutes ago, CoTex said:

If the game is "one tribe overpowering the other," isn't that what we have now?  Seems like the tribe with the Blue Star on their flag is beating the ever-loving shit out of the other tribe.  Those Blue Star guys seem to be winning by a lot.  Right?

 

 


 

 

 

yes, of course (to your delight).  Still, it's not antisemitic to criticize Israel , or even the desire to destroy Israel.  To the main point -- hating Jews has got ZERO to do with the protests. 

we have all heard "anti-Zionism is not antisemitism". Many Jewish intellectuals also believe this.  

the argument is about hating Jews and being hateful of Israel is automatically antisemitic. It's zero, nor was that ever the cause of the several wars. It's Israeli propaganda, works well, against the backdrop of western Judeo-Christian culture + hatred of Arabs / Muslims. 

a lot of being pro-Israel is because on the other side is the hated Arabs / Muslims (muzzies!).  One can easily turn the argument around and say it's all about hating Arabs.  Does American culture have a fondness for Muslims? Will Israel be happy to exploit this fondness? 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

There has never been a more confusing foreign relations issue for me in my lifetime.  I have many Jewish friends, and many Muslim friends.  I just don't engage in the homeland discussions.  I can't see any clear solution.  Many devout Jews will claim complete ownership of that region dating back to Abraham, but that doesn't pass the sniff test, because there have always been a lot more people of other religions & ethnicities there.

I do know this:  I wish they'd stop shooting each other.  What a shitshow.

most Israeli Jews are not devout , never has been that way.  It's not about religion but ethnicity.

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2 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

most Israeli Jews are not devout , never has been that way.  It's not about religion but ethnicity.

That is changing rapidly.  The religious Israeli jews have a lot more kids than the secular Israeli jews.  

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6 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

most Israeli Jews are not devout , never has been that way.  It's not about religion but ethnicity.

So you're saying a Jewish person from Ethiopia and a Jewish person from Hungary are the... *checks notes* same ethnicity or race?

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42 minutes ago, Blotto said:

And Netanyahu himself has ruled out a two-state solution clearly stating that Israel aims for full control of "all territory west of Jordan" and his directives have already resulted in 40K Palestinian deaths. Its two sides of the same stupid fucking sky daddy coin. You may find chanting "from the river to the sea" a horrific offense, and many others feel the same way about slaughtering Palestinians and subjecting the rest to a horrific standard of living.

So lets not clutch pearls over a pithy chant while pretending  Netanyahu doesn't plan on subjugating Palestinians (he has stated exactly that) or that he hasn't taken a pretty big lead in the genocide category as well. Its a shitshow over there and I expect that to continue as long as the hardliners on both sides call the shots. Jailing protestors in the US for expressing support for the Palestinian cause is just politically motivated horseshit. 

 

I was responding to the contention that protesting against Israel is not necessarily anti-semitism. Perhaps not every protester is an anti-semite -- hell, some don't even know what they're protesting -- but it's damn hard to draw a line between wanting to annihilate Israel and wanting to subjugate or annihilate the 7 million Jews who live there.

To your point -- Israel was fine with the 67 borders and Palestinian self-governance until attacked. Israel was fine with Palestinian control of Gaza until attacked. Israel has repeatedly offered a two-state solution only to be rebuffed every single time, including by bloody intifada. Don't act like mainstream Israelis are set on annihilation of Palestinians. They want to be left alone.

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8 minutes ago, Mikey4 said:

I was responding to the contention that protesting against Israel is not necessarily anti-semitism. Perhaps not every protester is an anti-semite -- hell, some don't even know what they're protesting -- but it's damn hard to draw a line between wanting to annihilate Israel and wanting to subjugate or annihilate the 7 million Jews who live there.

To your point -- Israel was fine with the 67 borders and Palestinian self-governance until attacked. Israel was fine with Palestinian control of Gaza until attacked. Israel has repeatedly offered a two-state solution only to be rebuffed every single time, including by bloody intifada. Don't act like mainstream Israelis are set on annihilation of Palestinians. They want to be left alone.

As proven by the peace they have made with Jordan, Egypt, etc.

They would prefer to be left alone on their little tiny slice of land in the middle of the very large caliphate.

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12 minutes ago, texasdago said:

So you're saying a Jewish person from Ethiopia and a Jewish person from Hungary are the... *checks notes* same ethnicity or race?

i would counter with the question -- if a Jew from Hungary declares himself an atheist, is he still a Jew? Is he then exactly the same as a Hungarian Christian who also declares himself an atheist? 

So what makes someone a Jew? 

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5 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

yes, of course (to your delight).  Still, it's not antisemitic to criticize Israel , or even the desire to destroy Israel.  To the main point -- hating Jews has got ZERO to do with the protests. 

we have all heard "anti-Zionism is not antisemitism". Many Jewish intellectuals also believe this.  

the argument is about hating Jews and being hateful of Israel is automatically antisemitic. It's zero, nor was that ever the cause of the several wars. It's Israeli propaganda, works well, against the backdrop of western Judeo-Christian culture + hatred of Arabs / Muslims. 

a lot of being pro-Israel is because on the other side is the hated Arabs / Muslims (muzzies!).  One can easily turn the argument around and say it's all about hating Arabs.  Does American culture have a fondness for Muslims? Will Israel be happy to exploit this fondness? 

What the hell is wrong with you? 

 

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10 minutes ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

i would counter with the question -- if a Jew from Hungary declares himself an atheist, is he still a Jew? Is he then exactly the same as a Hungarian Christian who also declares himself an atheist? 

So what makes someone a Jew? 

There are plenty of Christians who are non-practicing Christians who are Christian by profession or by association without being Christian in practice.  

If you claim Jewish is an ethnicity or a race, was Sammy Davis Jr. Jewish?  Is Ivanka Trump Jewish?  Lumping Jewish people into one race did not go well last time.

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While they are many subgroups of Jews, ethnically, religiously, and nationality-wise (I am an outlier myself, Sephardic Jew descended from Iberia after the Moorish expulsion).  What most people think of when they think of a Jew (both ethnically and religiously) are Ashkenazi Jews who are spread out across many countries.  But it's hard to count their numbers or singularize their commonalities, because apparently somebody awhile back killed almost all of them.  

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10 minutes ago, texasdago said:

There are plenty of Christians who are non-practicing Christians who are Christian by profession or by association without being Christian in practice.  

If you claim Jewish is an ethnicity or a race, was Sammy Davis Jr. Jewish?  Is Ivanka Trump Jewish?  Lumping Jewish people into one race did not go well last time.

When you figure it out let us all know.  

And carry this wisdom with you as your guide:

"the Jews are the enemy but they are not the enemy simply because they are Jews.  Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not murdered due to Asian hatred. There is no antisemitism in this entire conflict, never has been never will be." 

Make em eat Taco Bell.

 

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34 minutes ago, texasdago said:

So you're saying a Jewish person from Ethiopia and a Jewish person from Hungary are the... *checks notes* same ethnicity or race?

Yes. If a Dominican Afro-Latino and Mexican Asian-Latino can be part of the same ethnic group why couldn't Ethiopian and Hungarian Jews be part of the same ethnic group?

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28 minutes ago, texasdago said:

There are plenty of Christians who are non-practicing Christians who are Christian by profession or by association without being Christian in practice.  

If you claim Jewish is an ethnicity or a race, was Sammy Davis Jr. Jewish?  Is Ivanka Trump Jewish?  Lumping Jewish people into one race did not go well last time.

Doesn't answer the question of what defines being a Jew (also silly obsession with the Holocaust)

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