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3 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I’d like to hear more about these tire factories. I’m intrigued. 

Come down for a visit to the ship channel on 225 here in Houston. I'll take you site-seeing to my old stomping grounds in Pasadena, as well as the lot where the shanty I grew up in was condemned, then we can mosey on over to the Goodyear rubber factory and you can take in all of the sites and sounds your senses can handle. By the time we're finished, you'll feel like you've been to Starkville and back. 

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3 minutes ago, Zepol87 said:

Am I going crazy or weren't they ranked #1 or 2 briefly when Dak was there? What a crazy ass time that was

They spent 5 consecutive weeks ranked #1 in 2014 and finished the season ranked #11. That's probably the most relevant they've ever been.

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i was just cruising around starkville on street view on google maps checking out just how shitty it looks and i came across the ulysses s. grant presidential library.

THE FUCKING ULYSSES S. FUCKING GRANT PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY IS IN THE HEART OF FUCKING STARKVILLE, MISSISSIPPI?!?!?!?!

who is trolling who with that? 

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53 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I really dislike New Jersey and have had to be there more than I care to admit. 

It's a utopian paradise in comparison. 

Give me New Jersey over basically all of the South and Midwest. 

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2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

I don't see any "tell me about MSU" type of threads, but I have some unpleasant thoughts to put out into the ether. I've also spoilered some content that gets more voluminous on the banality of Mississippi State as an institution for tl;dr imbeciles.

Mississippi State is perhaps the most boring brand in the entirety of major college athletics. 

Someone lamented on the game week thread that "no one is excited for this game". I doubt I'm the only person who read that and thought, "who in the fuck gets excited to play Mississippi State?" Even if they were good, who would be excited to play MSU? "Dude, we've got Mississippi State this week!" Right.

Does Ole Miss get excited to play them? Alabama? I guess, having watched 20+ Egg Bowls, I can agree that Ole Miss actually gives a shit but that's about it. 

This is a brand and school that is as plain as grits and as competitive as a hippie commune. Starkville is as appealing as a destination as visiting a tire-making factory. I've tried thinking about who else rivals the Mississippi State melancholy as an opponent for anyone out there. Who can do it? 

-Baylor? They are in Waco. But they've managed to institutionalize rape and murder cover-up. They have better colors, also. They're not completely boring. 

-Indiana? Bloomington is supposed to be a great place to visit and they used to be a blue blood in men's basketball. Way better academically as well.

-Iowa State? A case can be made here. They're marginally better academically. Their colors and uniforms are better and they've had some hot meme girls. I don't know anything about Ames. I don't know, maybe ISU is an analog. 

-Wake Forest? They've been good before in other sports and Winston-Salem is a great town with some history. Way better academically as well. 

-The best candidate is probably Texas Tech. The only thing saving Lubbock from being as shitty as Starkville is the fact that Lubbock is at least inside the state of Texas. Tech's academic ranking is just 10 rungs up above MSU's, coming in at 198 in the US News & World Report rankings. Also, Tech is about as futile as MSU when it comes to athletic performance. Maybe Tech really is an analog, and Texas just traded one shitty conference affiliate for another. 

P4-wise, I am not sure who else could objectively be considered on par with being as moribund as Mississippi State, but I'm interested in other suggestions. This is a really boring, uninspiring pack of mouthbreathing gypsies with whom Texas has moored itself. It's grim. 

Mississippi State's academics are on par with a third world country's.

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The MSU US News & World Report ranking is 208th, nationally. That's currently 98 spots behind the University of Oklahoma, who is our standard bearer for academic futility. Originally Mississippi A&M when founded, the mission for the school hasn't apparently changed as much as the name. In short, this dumpster fire exists in order to educate, to some meager degree, farmers and their offspring.

The acceptance rate hovers around 80% and that's with most applicants being from Mississippi high schools. My daughter taught in the Teach For America program in Mississippi for 2 years and then a 3rd mentor year within their public school program. When she applied, they asked her where she'd like to teach, anywhere in the country. She opted for "place of highest need", no doubt thinking she'd wind up in East Los Angeles, becoming the female version of Jaime Escalante.

Nope. Welcome to the Mississippi delta, young lady! She was once stabbed in class; witnessed one student's dad murder another student's dad in front of the school pick-up line; broke up fights in the classroom daily; and taught 2-3 13 year olds each year, in the 3rd grade. You can't move on to 4th grade without being able to pass state standard reading and math tests. Mississippi State is taking roughly 80% of these erudite scholars.

I'm sure Texas is benefitting in numerous ways from the research side of things in their deep collaborations with Mississippi State now that the two are affiliated. 

I've been a part of employing and working with 1000s of college grads over the years, and I can recall working with only one MSU grad. We hired him as an analyst out of their business school at a growing start-up. I will never figure out what we were thinking when we did it, because the guy basically showed up underwater and was gasping for air before the end of week 1.

Shit got worse from there. By the end of month 2, he'd been removed from all projects, was in a PIP, and an uncomfortable exit was coming. Problem was, we liked the guy and he meant well. Those are bosskillers, of course, but we figured out a role that made sense and it saved his career. We needed a receptionist. Dude took to it like a duck to water. Last I heard, he'd made his way to executive assistant several decades later. 

I've made the argument that LSU is a shithole institution that is doing more harm than good to this country by handing out degrees and sending clowns into the workforce. I'd make the same argument for Mississippi State, but I'm thinking that maybe whatever farming their doing in that state could be benefitting from the reality that a lot of MSU grads can probably read and write better than when they landed in Starkville in the first place. 

As pathetic as Mississippi State's academics are, their historical athletic performance might be worse than the academics.

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MSU has an overall losing record, for their history, in football. It staggers me a bit when I think about how hard that is to pull off. These guys schedule 4 non-conference teams every year, always with 3 cupcakes. They're a founding member of the SEC. They've gotten to play Kentucky and Vanderbilt regularly, with Arkansas and South Carolina as well in recent decades. Ole Miss has mostly been equally shitty. How the hell do you wind up with a losing record for life with those cushions? 

Mississippi State has won one SEC conference title in football, in 1941. They've had 3 consensus All-Americans. I looked up "backwater program in college football" and the first result from Google was "Mississippi State is often considered the best example of backwater college football programs". They think ringing cowbells is a competitive advantage and a unique and endearing facet for their football brand. 

Across the span of the MSU athletic department, they've won one national title in college baseball, and nothing else in any sport. That's it. One. Within several years of that outcome, they fired the dude that brought that home for them. They're historically a top 15 baseball program and that is the apex of all of their sports. They're usually little more than a speed bump in every other sport besides occasionally being good in men's basketball and women's basketball (much of the WBB success is a direct result of Vic Shaeffer). 

I guess there's some legitimacy to the notion that cupcakes are necessary in every sport, so we need the MSU's of the world in athletics. 

 

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5 minutes ago, sidis said:

i was just cruising around starkville on street view on google maps checking out just how shitty it looks and i came across the ulysses s. grant presidential library.

THE FUCKING ULYSSES S. FUCKING GRANT PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY IS IN THE HEART OF FUCKING STARKVILLE, MISSISSIPPI?!?!?!?!

who is trolling who with that? 

Yep. There is also a nice collection of Lincolniana there as well. Crazy huh? 

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1 hour ago, RGBIII said:

There is a whole lot of boring in the Big 10, half the league is a snooze fest. Illinois, Syracuse, Minnesota, Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue, Northwestern, Michigan st

Please don’t mention Maryland again

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Some of you people need to venture out beyond fucking Texas. Syracuse is a cool town not far from the Adirondacks and Lake Ontario. Northwestern is located just north of Chicago on Lake Michigan. And are people really shit talking Cal Berkeley? 

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1 hour ago, MirrOlure said:

Ye of little or no adventurous spirit….

Spent last night enjoying North Shore Pontchartrain now halfway to Starkville.  

Sunday night dinner at Galatoire’s and spend night at The Ritz to re-acclimate.

Reports will be filed 

The ritz in NO is amongst the worst in that collection 

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38 minutes ago, sidis said:

i was just cruising around starkville on street view on google maps checking out just how shitty it looks and i came across the ulysses s. grant presidential library.

THE FUCKING ULYSSES S. FUCKING GRANT PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY IS IN THE HEART OF FUCKING STARKVILLE, MISSISSIPPI?!?!?!?!

who is trolling who with that? 

This was discussed on the msu thread last year.  If you go to the website for the library,it says something like "perhaps no state did more to launch the career of Grant than Mississippi." Which is a nice way of saying sorry to grant about Vicksburg having so many assholes he had to starve out of their hideouts.

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3 hours ago, cafe society said:

I have given this some thought and whew, boy, you have posed a difficult question.  All I can come up with for matching academic and athletic futility is Rhode Island. But it's in a suburb of Providence so that's already better than Starkville.  Fresno St?

Washington State? However, that part of the country is beautiful, so they have that going.

Fresno State is an apt comparison. Shitty school, shitty town, BFE California. 

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1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

I’d like to hear more about these tire factories. I’m intrigued. 

Lol, I know there was one on the outskirts W of Tyler for a long time.  Went from Goodyear to Michelin to Cooper over the years but it might not be open any more.

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I’m curious. What are all of you pontificating, classist, Trumpkin sounding brahmins going to say and do when the Mississippi State Cow College located in the prolapsed anus of the hopelessly backward, uneducated and boring SEC actually does what so many of you have been predicting all week and hangs another L on the Texas Longhorns?  I love Surly as a messsge board but Kee-rist, the clench-mouthed arrogance is worse than Thurston and Lovey.

I only wish Mike Leach was still coaching there. I have attended Rice, MSU, Alabama and NYU. I don’t much like cowbells but I don’t condemn anyone for where they live or the school they attend (except Auburn, but fuck them).

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2 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Are they soon to join the SEC? 

West Texas State University would like a word with you. 

I mean they do have the actually cool Palo Duro Canyon close by and the riveting city of Amarillo... so maybe a bad comparison.

Hey, don’t be shitting on WTSU! (You have no idea what they were paying Duane Thomas and Mercury Morris back in the good ol’ days)  oh, and fuck a&m.  Also, Amarillo has 2 good restaurants and a good pizza place now, so there’s that

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, sidis said:

i was just cruising around starkville on street view on google maps checking out just how shitty it looks and i came across the ulysses s. grant presidential library.

THE FUCKING ULYSSES S. FUCKING GRANT PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY IS IN THE HEART OF FUCKING STARKVILLE, MISSISSIPPI?!?!?!?!

who is trolling who with that? 

Starkville votes liberal and Ms State as a school is far more liberal than Ole Miss. Blue dot in a red shithole wasteland.  Hell there are rainbow crosswalks in the starkville that aren’t being painted over like in Austin.  

I’ve been to Starkville a few times. I’m here now. There’s good cajun food, and … um.. that’s about it.  It’s not a great place but the cotton district has a couple decent restaurants.  

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3 hours ago, ztejas said:

It is though. No one gives a fuck about Cal. 

Very strange opinion.

academics: number 1 public school, one of the top overall. 
location: Berkeley by the bay, probably the top location overall. 
Athletics: 4th overall in Olympic medals (the top 3 are all California schools).

other stuff: food, fun and nature, probably the top location overall

football: the teams have sucked but they have their share of NFLers despite the university not caring about football. 

This discussion is about the overall university. According to this criterion, Berkeley may be number 1. (I live close to Stanford and would vote for Cal over it.)


 

 

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I can’t believe no one has made the argument that MissSU is self-aware TAMU. Craphole towns, mediocre academics, little brothers, history of athletic futility (except MissSU has a much better baseball program historically). 
 

The biggest difference is that MissSU doesn’t act like they’re a blue blood. They kind of accept their place in the pecking order. 

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4 minutes ago, honolulu horn said:

Are you out of your mind? Philadelphia vs Starkville. Okay. 

You've obviously never been to Philadelphia, MS, home of Marcus Dupree. Good back, even though he was a Sooner.

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3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Minny is in a big city too, albeit not a visit I would call "cool", but I've only visited the twin cities for business. 

Spent some decent time there, and Minneapolis is actually far more fun and interesting than I ever would have thought. The campus is in a very pretty location up on a hill across the river from downtown, the city's music scene is fantastic, and they were badass enough to make the new Gophers stadium an outdoor venue.  

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7 minutes ago, AeroHorn said:

Very strange opinion.

academics: number 1 public school, one of the top overall. 
location: Berkeley by the bay, probably the top location overall. 
Athletics: 4th overall in Olympic medals (the top 3 are all California schools).

other stuff: food, fun and nature, probably the top location overall

football: the teams have sucked but they have their share of NFLers despite the university not caring about football. 

This discussion is about the overall university. According to this criterion, Berkeley may be number 1. (I live close to Stanford and would vote for Cal over it.)


 

 

I'm not reading this garbage. No one cares about fucking Cal. 

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Just now, Longboard Horn said:

One of my best friends went there. His dad was head of a department so he got free tuition 

OPSU has one of the best 3A stadiums I've seen in NAIA collegiate football.

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Seems a few of you don't remember that after Jackie Sherrill left aigy he went to MSU and made them a better team in the '91-92 timeframe.  

I'm always up for us to deliver a beatdown on MSU.

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17 minutes ago, honolulu horn said:

Are you out of your mind? Philadelphia vs Starkville. Okay. 

Well I've been to both, and people pee on the sidewalk in Philly, so yeah, let's not pretend Philly is some kind of Mecca. The suburbs are nice, but the city is a dumpster fire. 

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13 minutes ago, William Bludworth said:

Well I've been to both, and people pee on the sidewalk in Philly, so yeah, let's not pretend Philly is some kind of Mecca. The suburbs are nice, but the city is a dumpster fire. 

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1 hour ago, Bama Llama said:

I’m curious. What are all of you pontificating, classist, Trumpkin sounding brahmins going to say and do when the Mississippi State Cow College located in the prolapsed anus of the hopelessly backward, uneducated and boring SEC actually does what so many of you have been predicting all week and hangs another L on the Texas Longhorns?  I love Surly as a messsge board but Kee-rist, the clench-mouthed arrogance is worse than Thurston and Lovey.

I only wish Mike Leach was still coaching there. I have attended Rice, MSU, Alabama and NYU. I don’t much like cowbells but I don’t condemn anyone for where they live or the school they attend (except Auburn, but fuck them).

We didn’t lose to FSU, cocksucker.  So, we got that going for us…at least.

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49 minutes ago, William Bludworth said:

Well I've been to both, and people pee on the sidewalk in Philly, so yeah, let's not pretend Philly is some kind of Mecca. The suburbs are nice, but the city is a dumpster fire. 

I’d rather live on Kensington Ave than ever step foot in the state of Mississippi. 

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7 minutes ago, Vertuzzi said:

I’d rather live on Kensington Ave than ever step foot in the state of Mississippi. 

We walked down that ave to hit up some bars, and I swear I've never seen more homelessness and drug addicts in my life. It was absolutely sad to see. 

As for Mississippi, being to Oxford, I personally found it to be quaint and nice. Here I am in Starkville,and I might as well be on skid row comparitively. This place is depression wrapped in suicide. The complete opposite of our trip to Oxford. 

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6 minutes ago, William Bludworth said:

Here I am in Starkville,and I might as well be on skid row comparitively.

Overall, it is an absolute fucking dump of a town in an absolute fucking dump of a state. But you can still have yourself a good evening and a good day here.


Diinner at Harvey’s or at Taste is decent. Pregame at The Landing in the Cotton District, that’s where McConaughey will be tomorrow. I believe his crew rented out the entire upper patio.

For breakfast there’s a great little Venezuelan place with arepas. Arepas Coffee and Bar, also in the Cotton District. 
 

Nobody is going to confuse this shithole with a place like Austin, but if you can’t find yourself a good time here then the town is not the only problem
 

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For every roadtrip, we shoot to find craft beer and BBQ.

Starkville is the only road game so far where we weren't able to find a brewery in town or even nearby.

They have one, Mayhew Junction, that has been "about to open" for at least 8 years now.

We ended up flying in and out of Birmingham and driving which thankfully does have both beers and bbq.

For the most part, the campus is boring though they do have a beautiful quad area with some nice buildings. 

We didn't have any real issues parking on campus. Oddly enough, lots of MSU fans simply park on the side of the freeway. I guess so they can get a jump on heading home?

The stadium is ok, but it's a horseshoe and the guest seats are on one extreme end. We got stuck at a pinchpoint and instead of fighting the tide of fans trying to go the other way, just entered on the other end of the horseshoe not realizing that there is no way to get to the other side without circling the entire stadium once inside. The endzone without seats is completely cut off from normal ticket holders.

The folks were nice. This was right after we hired Mullen so they were pumped for revenge and all wanted to talk about him and how long they thought he would last before he quit.

The cowbells sucked. Bring earplugs.

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1 minute ago, Your Mom said:

Overall, it is an absolute fucking dump of a town in an absolute fucking dump of a state. But you can still have yourself a good evening and a good day here.


Diinner at Harvey’s or at Taste is decent. Pregame at The Landing in the Cotton District, that’s where McConaughey will be tomorrow. I believe his crew rented out the entire upper patio.

For breakfast there’s a great little Venezuelan place with arepas. Arepas Coffee and Bar, also in the Cotton District. 
 

Nobody is going to confuse this shithole with a place like Austin, but if you can’t find yourself a good time here then the town is not the only problem
 

Nice. Appreciate you giving me some places to hit up. I'll pregame at The Landing just to see how it goes. 
 

Arepas Coffee and Bar sounds great, actually. Just looked it up and it gets great reviews,so that's where we're going. We're about to head to Taste as we speak. Love me some good Italian, and it looks very solid. Thank you for pointing out some good spots. 

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I’ve been to both those spots on a previous visit. Tonight we got Cajun food at Oby’s, casual and decent. 
 

The Landing is pretty new. I think it’s been open less than a year. But if you don’t like the look of it or it’s too crowded there’s about a block and a half there with a dozen other places that should be good enough to find a couple drinks before the game

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