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2 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

A few thoughts

1.  I'm sure the 10 million words that are going to be written in this thread after this post arguing the "punished for tOSU game/don't lose to Florida" points will really make a difference but Surly gonna Surly 🙄

2.  Do any of you all really believe this team has what it takes to make it to the final 4 this year, much less win it all?  If you don't, then...

3.  Maybe, just maybe, getting left out while still getting the practices, etc that come with a bowl game will relight the fire under this team and particularly the coaching staff's ass to do what needs to be done to get this to a position where it truly is a contender going into 2026.   I know silver linings and all, but we ain't winning it all this year anyway, so I would almost rather have the motivational sting of getting "snubbed" driving this program.  Let programs like Tech and aggy celebrate making the playoffs and then doing absolutely nothing in them.  Unless you win it all, or at least make the national semifinals, nobody is going to remember shit about it in a few years (real quick, tell me who were the first 8 outs in the 2022 NFL playoffs)

 

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I actually do and I didn't two days ago.  Use last week's bracket, Texas comes in at 10.  Ole Miss? dog fight for sure, but I think that is a toss up and then the winner fucks Indiana to oblivion.  there you go, semifinals.  

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Posted
1 minute ago, Surly Bevo said:

Ask TCU how the "opportunity" to win a national championship that they didn't win worked out for them.  Or Clemson how the "opportunity" to be in the playoffs last year worked out for them?  Take a longer view dude...but then look who I am talking to, one of the most emotional reactionary posters on this site.

That line of questioning says you'd rather not compete for a chance at a title. Regardless of results the playoff is 100% the bare minimum expectation we should have as a fan base in this era.

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Remember when SEC fans used to say "Winning on the road in the SEC is hard."?

Now, when it applies to Texas, it is: "But, you lost to a shitty Florida team and barely beat Kentucky and Miss St."

 

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Posted
1 minute ago, scramblyn said:

and then the winner fucks Indiana to oblivion. 

Apparently you haven't watched Indiana play at all this season. 

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Posted
23 minutes ago, Derka said:

i don’t know what is hard to understand about this: there are going to be 5+ teams in the playoff who don’t have as many top 10-15 wins as we do, and whose two losses are no better than/worse than our road losses to florida and georgia. the difference? those teams didn’t schedule tosu week one. that’s it. they scheduled a homecoming opponent, beat them, and now they’re in and we’re out. shit has nothing to do with florida.

Furthermore, it could be argued that we'll end up with 3 better wins than A&M, Tech, Oregon, Miami, ND, and the G5 representative COMBINED.

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Posted
Just now, mdmost said:

No, Miami will be ahead of us when they really should have Notre Dame's spot. If Bama is out then Miami is in. God dammit, look what you made me do. 

Again if Texas is in top 12 with only BYU and Bama in front I think that is the open door, that means Miami/ND et al is outside the 12, signaling that they are out. The seasons is over for everyone except the conference champ participants.

Posted
9 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

It should be 24, just like the FCS playoff. There is no reason not to do it, we have just pretended that CFB postseason is some kind of special unicorn that needs to have some kind of unique and innovative system in place when in reality it should just be treated like every other sport on the planet.

So says the primary beneficiary of unbalanced conferences. Fuck you bitch. 

Posted
Just now, scramblyn said:

I actually do and I didn't two days ago.  Use last week's bracket, Texas comes in at 10.  Ole Miss? dog fight for sure, but I think that is a toss up and then the winner fucks Indiana to oblivion.  there you go, semifinals.  

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Then you are deluding yourself.  Look the aggy win was FUCKING FANTASTIC.  But for all the reasons I was fairly confident we could win that game they were also not a good measuring stick for can we win it all.  Neither was OU with their shitastic offense.   We've seen those measuring sticks. tOSU 14 Texas 7, Georgia 35 Texas 10.  

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Posted
2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

This is what Sankey needs to push for. Everyone should have the same scheduling. We're now there on conference games. It needs to be the same for P4 requirements in OOC. Indiana should not be allowed 3 gimmies. 

but we aren't. Inside the conference Texas is 3-1 against top teams, A&M 0-1. disparity even within the SEC is fucking nuts. 9 game schedule will help a lot. But then look outside to the other conferences, even Ohio State vs Texas the conference slate is wildly different in terms of strength. now there's nothing we can do about conference strength until the conferences and dead weight are gone so until then the committee has to either say fuck it, record is most important end of story or they have to solve for schedule disparity. until then the true best 10 in the field won't happen.

Posted
5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Again, tell me when in CFB history W/L wasn't the key metric? 3 losses was never getting in over 2. Proven just last year.

Not gonna play your stupid games. 

The whole point of going from 4 teams to 12+ is get the "best" teams in, not to add playoff opportunities for smaller programs in weaker conferences who get to 10 or 11 wins. 

The committee will tweak the playoff format ASAP to avoid this situation. Because if Texas and other bluebloods decide to stop scheduling these big OOC games, it is very bad for the sport. 

 

 

 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Not gonna play your stupid games. 

The whole point of going from 4 teams to 12+ is get the "best" teams in, not to add playoff opportunities for smaller programs in weaker conferences who get to 10 or 11 wins. 

The committee will tweak the playoff format ASAP to avoid this situation. Because if Texas and other bluebloods decide to stop scheduling these big OOC games, it is very bad for the sport. 

 

 

 

Why is it bad for the sports when these big OOC games will occur in the playoff anyway? 

Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Why is it bad for the sports when these big OOC games will occur in the playoff anyway? 

8/10 most watched CFB games last year did not happen in the playoffs, including the #1.   And tOSU vs Texas was more watched than all of them.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Because if Texas and other bluebloods decide to stop scheduling these big OOC games, it is very bad for the sport. 

Thankfully they won't

Posted
1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Why is it bad for the sports when these big OOC games will occur in the playoff anyway? 

Are you really this fucking stupid? 

They want big OOC games AND playoff matches. Not one or the other. It's all about money. 

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I think CDC or Sark should draw a line in the sand here....just come out publicly and say that we are eager to see what the committee decides, and if they decide that 3 losses prevents a team from making the playoff, then we will adjust our future schedule accordingly.  

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Posted
Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

Are you really this fucking stupid? 

They want big OOC games AND playoff matches. Not one or the other. It's all about money. 

That's cool, tell me about those big Indiana OOC games and how it affected their, let me check, #2 undefeated season

Posted
1 minute ago, Texasborn91 said:

If Virginia wins the ACC champ game does Miami still get in? 

One has fuckall to do with the other but I have a hard time seeing any way that miami gets in

Posted
7 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Apparently you haven't watched Indiana play at all this season. 

I watched Oregon and PSU games. They are good like A&M a bit better actually, they are undefeated because of their schedule.

Posted (edited)

this kind of reminds me of 2008, and i wish that someone in the media back then had stood up and taken a stand in a move that would have changed the way we rank college sports teams forever.

Texas had played a gauntlet of a schedule, we hadn’t had a bye week, it had been two straight months of football, and FOUR straight weeks of top 10 opponents, when we lost, on the road, vs top 10 TTU, in the final seconds of the game. i wish that tony kornheiser, or kirk herbstreit, or colin cowherd had gone on tv and said, “i thought that Texas was the best team in the country before they lost to ttu, and i still think they’re the best team in America today.” would have made total sense, and could have changed how we do things. but here we are, in 2025, and the rules are still the same: you will be harshly punished for losing, and you will get nothing for having a brutal schedule.

it really is that simple. the powers that be have no interest in delving into the specifics of why team A might be better than team B, they just want to know how many losses each team has, even if one team has played 7 teams in the top 25 and is 5-2 while the other team is 0-1 vs the same top 25. doesn’t matter; only your record does. you want to play in big games in december and january? you’d better schedule cream puffs in september.

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Here’s the thing that’s so infuriating… college hoops is so much better from a scheduling perspective (yeah it sucks but that’s bc the nba has the best 100 human beings 18-21 playing in it in a way the nfl cannot and will not) because the tournament committee says “who did you beat and where did you beat them” and not “how many losses do you have. Because of that we see really great tournaments, neutral site games conference challenges and home and homes between national powers. It works. 
when the committee in football says not who did you beat snd where did you play and instead “how many losses do you have” we will see a wasteland of shit. 
a modest proposal:  all playoff teams must have either a great win (top 10) or two good wins (top 20) to qualify. 
that would incentivize everyone to schedule really good games. It would fix almost everything. This year’s eligible teams:

Ohio state (Texas and Michigan)

Indiana (Oregon- top 10) 

aggy (domers)

Georgia (Texas, ole Miss)

tech (not in unless they beat byu) 

ole Miss (OU, Tulane)

Oklahoma (Bama, michigan) 

Domers (nope- only mediocre USC win barely in top 20)

bama (Georgia)

byu (nope- not unless they beat tech)

Utah (nope) 

Vandy (nope) 

Texas (aggy, OU, Vandy) 

Miami (Domers - nobody else) 

if you don’t get to 12 doing that fill in with whoever else wins the eye test I guess.  Aggy and Miami have tentative grasp on qualifying wins depending upon what one did with Domers  

that one simple trick would make September fucking awesome, and it would make conference schedules better too bc conferences wouldn’t WS t their best teams to duck each other to protect the loss column  college football could be twice as good without changing anything other than committee selection criteria  TV and fans would win big time  

 

 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Then you are deluding yourself.  Look the aggy win was FUCKING FANTASTIC.  But for all the reasons I was fairly confident we could win that game they were also not a good measuring stick for can we win it all.  Neither was OU with their shitastic offense.   We've seen those measuring sticks. tOSU 14 Texas 7, Georgia 35 Texas 10.  

Texas was the most competitive game tOSU has had and we dominated the LOS against A&M without our leading tackler. This team is miles better than that first week. This is a top 10 team with a salty as fuck record against top teams. 

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Posted
Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

That's cool, tell me about those big Indiana OOC games and how it affected their, let me check, #2 undefeated season

Way to move the goalposts, dumbass. 

College football wants marquis matchups with massive ratings as much as humanly possible. This is all about money for the people in charge. None of it is about fairness or integrity of the game.

They fucked up, and will continue to tweak the playoff system so a team like Texas this year doesn't get left out. 

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Posted (edited)

The power 4 can help this by requiring 1 game against other power 4 conferences to be playoff eligible starting in 2027 or something like that.  It doesn’t solve it, but imagine scheduling Indiana 5 years ago when they were shit and catching them now (or getting lucky and catching Clemson this year).   I get the Go5 and FCS teams that are getting games cancelled will raise hell but we are <10 years from seeing the Big 4 fully break off anyway so all OOC are against the Big 4.  
 

There is a lot of grumbling about a shakeup in rankings this week that will help us.  It’s fools gold because I do not see how we are better than 11th still in a best case scenario, which means we aren’t in.  

 

 

 

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Posted
23 minutes ago, BurntOrange&amp;White said:

That is literally how Bama fans, Georgia fans, etc look at their teams. That is fan standards and expectations. Meanwhile our general fan base expectation is happy to be there type. 

Bullshit. Bama claims 187 titles. They didn’t give back a title when they lost to LsU and got a rematch with only 2 teams chosen!  Not any of the other 1 loss Saban bullshit title’s when picking 2 teams and that wasn’t the deal. They happily take every break and laugh about it and don’t consider a team to need to be a generational team to deserve a title. 
Ohio state fans were happy to claim a title after losing to Oregon and Michigan and beating nobody other than PSU of quality last year. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&amp;White said:

 

Tell me why we need future big time OOC games? We're going to get paid regardless and conference payout comes from post season. 

 

Because big time OOC games are fun and entertaining and give us something to look forward to all summer.   College football is supposed to be fun and enjoyable entertainment.   Sometimes it will bite us (2025 ohio st) sometimes it will help us (2023 - Bama).

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Posted
1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Way to move the goalposts, dumbass. 

College football wants marquis matchups with massive ratings as much as humanly possible. This is all about money for the people in charge. None of it is about fairness or integrity of the game.

They fucked up, and will continue to tweak the playoff system so a team like Texas this year doesn't get left out. 

Yep - and their tweaking will somehow fuck us in a future year.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Here’s the thing that’s so infuriating… college hoops is so much better from a scheduling perspective (yeah it sucks but that’s bc the nba has the best 100 human beings 18-21 playing in it in a way the nfl cannot and will not) because the tournament committee says “who did you beat and where did you beat them” and not “how many losses do you have. Because of that we see really great tournaments, neutral site games conference challenges and home and homes between national powers. It works. 
when the committee in football says not who did you beat snd where did you play and instead “how many losses do you have” we will see a wasteland of shit. 
a modest proposal:  all playoff teams must have either a great win (top 10) or two good wins (top 20) to qualify. 
that would incentivize everyone to schedule really good games. It would fix almost everything. This year’s eligible teams:

Ohio state (Texas and Michigan)

Indiana (Oregon- top 10) 

aggy (domers)

Georgia (Texas, ole Miss)

tech (not in unless they beat byu) 

ole Miss (OU, Tulane)

Oklahoma (Bama, michigan) 

Domers (nope- only mediocre USC win barely in top 20)

bama (Georgia)

byu (nope- not unless they beat tech)

Utah (nope) 

Vandy (nope) 

Texas (aggy, OU, Vandy) 

Miami (Domers - nobody else) 

if you don’t get to 12 doing that fill in with whoever else wins the eye test I guess.  Aggy and Miami have tentative grasp on qualifying wins depending upon what one did with Domers  

that one simple trick would make September fucking awesome, and it would make conference schedules better too bc conferences wouldn’t WS t their best teams to duck each other to protect the loss column  college football could be twice as good without changing anything other than committee selection criteria  TV and fans would win big time  

 

 

They also look at internal conference records too, Texas would be above Vandy and OU already. 

CFP rankings and CFB polling are dumb as fuck, always have been. 

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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, Mr. Drummond said:

Because big time OOC games are fun and entertaining and give us something to look forward to all summer.   College football is supposed to be fun and enjoyable entertainment.   Sometimes it will bite us (2025 ohio st) sometimes it will help us (2023 - Bama).

You know what's fun? Being in the playoffs with a chance to win a title, you know what isn't fun? Not being in the playoff with no chance to win a national title. I'd rather have my fun in December than September. And if you're not looking forward to any college football games come end of August then IDK what to tell you.

 

The only thing that helped us in 2023 was this.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

College football wants marquis matchups with massive ratings as much as humanly possible

Matchups that have a ranking above a count and below a duke?

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Posted
Just now, BurntOrange&amp;White said:

The only thing that helped us in 2023 was this

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Wrong. We beat Bama. You know one of those big OOC matchups people want to get rid of. Bama took FSU's spot, not us. 

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Posted (edited)
Just now, mdmost said:

Wrong. We beat Bama. You know one of those big OOC matchups people want to get rid of. Bama took FSU's spot, not us. 

Bama was going to get in over us had Travis not been injured. SEC champ > big 12 champ

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Posted
Just now, BurntOrange&amp;White said:

Bama was going to get in over us had Travis not been injured. SEC champ > big 12 champ

lolno

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Can you imagine the dick sucking that a 3-loss ND would get if they'd played 5 of the top 14 teams in the country, went 3-2 against those teams, and played the undisputed #1 team in the country their closest game of the season on the road?

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Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, A-Tex Devil said:

The power 4 can help this by requiring 1 game against other power 4 conferences to be playoff eligible starting in 2027 or something like that.  It doesn’t solve it, but imagine scheduling Indiana 5 years ago when they were shit and catching them now (or getting lucky and catching Clemson this year).   I get the Go5 and FCS teams that are getting games cancelled will raise hell but we are <10 years from seeing the Big 4 fully break off anyway so all OOC are against the Big 4.  
 

There is a lot of grumbling about a shakeup in rankings this week that will help us.  It’s fools gold because I do not see how we are better than 11th still in a best case scenario, which means we aren’t in.  

 

 

 

#11 if bama and byu are ahead of us is actually a signal Texas is in with one more loss from either Bama or byu. 

#13 means we are out.

#12 is a head scratcher depends on who is ahead it could mean last out or if bama and BYU win we are in.

to be clear I have no prediction and expect #12-13 on Tuesday (lip service to salty top 12 record) and we are out.

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Posted
1 minute ago, BurntOrange&amp;White said:

Bama was going to get in over us had Travis not been injured. SEC champ > big 12 champ

Must be why we were the higher ranked team then.

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Just now, BurntOrange&amp;White said:

Bama was going to get in over us had Travis not been injured. SEC champ > big 12 champ

I don't know why i am arguing with a known moron, but.    You don't think our head to head over Bama might have mattered a bit?   Good lord you are a dumb dumb.

Posted
2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Wrong. We beat Bama. You know one of those big OOC matchups people want to get rid of. Bama took FSU's spot, not us. 

There is a lot of truth to the gambler’s philosophy here, best tOSU first game and barring a collapse you are in like Flynn.

Posted (edited)
Just now, Mr. Drummond said:

I don't know why i am arguing with a known moron, but.    You don't think our head to head over Bama might have mattered a bit?   Good lord you are a dumb dumb.

Does our head to head matter over Oklahoma, Vandy, or Aggie? You people acting like those things matter 

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Unfortunately we scheduled Michigan and OSU when we were in the big 12 with only 4 playoff teams and needed as many things on our resume as possible to get a big 12 team in the playoffs because the conference sucks shit through a straw. Now that we’re not in that shitty conference and it’s abundantly clear a tough schedule doesn’t matter to get in with 12 teams, it’s time to clear the schedule and just play shitty G5 teams ooc.

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