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At least 40 dead after fire sweeps through Swiss ski reso...

Around 100 people were also injured in the fire that broke out during New Year's celebrations in the municipality of Crans-Montana, authorities said.

At least 40 people are dead and more the 100 others were severely injured after a fire broke out during a New Year’s Eve celebration at a bar in a Swiss Alps resort, authorities said Thursday.

Calling it an “unprecedented tragedy,” Valais canton police commander Frédéric Gisler warned the death toll could rise because many of the injured are in critical condition.

Meanwhile, Gisler said at a news conference, “the priority will be to identify those who lost their lives.”

Swiss President Guy Parmelin said that many of the victims were young people and the victims include Swiss residents as well as tourists from neighboring countries and elsewhere.

“Behind these numbers are faces, names, families, destinies brutally interrupted,” Parmelin said at the press conference.

1 hour ago, Wally Fairway said:

Was Great White playing at that bar? (too soon?)

This was the first thing that entered my mind as well. Debauched and broken humans ftw!

Worst way to die imo and sometimes surviving is worse than death

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20260101-here-what-to-know-about-deadly-nye-fire-in-swiss-resort-town

The blaze broke out around 1:30am Thursday inside the Le Constellation bar amid the holiday celebration.

Two women told French broadcaster BFMTV they were inside when they saw a male bartender lifting a female bartender on his shoulders as she held a lit candle in a bottle. The flames spread, collapsing the wooden ceiling, they told the broadcaster.

People frantically tried to escape from the basement nightclub up a narrow flight of stairs and through a narrow door, causing a crowd surge, one of the women said.

just going to guess that at 1:30am everybody wasn't exactly sober, which would add to the chaos

50 minutes ago, Bill Brasky said:

just going to guess that at 1:30am everybody wasn't exactly sober, which would add to the chaos

This seems very European. Drunk bartenders, doing stupid shit. Poor fire retardation in the building with 200 year old wood rafters without fire resistant stain or fire resistant insulation. One exit that isn't easily accessible. No ceiling sprinkler system...

Death trap

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Edited by Ted Lange

Somewhere in a city office file is an inspection report with a code violation.

1 hour ago, Ted Lange said:

Death trap

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Looking at that map/picture, my claustrophobia/enochlophobia* probably would have kept me out of that "basement bar area" if it were crowded (which it sounds like it was).

*Really really don't like enclosed+crowded areas. I can handle one or the other, but not both.

Even those who survived saw and likely did some gruesome things to survive.

<old man rant> What is it with people who decide to pull out their phones and video the fire instead of actually helping people get out? </old man rant>

On 1/1/2026 at 2:20 PM, Wally Fairway said:

Was Great White playing at that bar? (too soon?)

Only 40 killed, so must have been a Great White cover band.

2 hours ago, TxEx84 said:

<old man rant> What is it with people who decide to pull out their phones and video the fire instead of actually helping people get out? </old man rant>

I may be wrong, but those videos and pics being taken were by people sitting inside the club! Filming their own deaths. I have no idea what they were thinking.

57 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I may be wrong, but those videos and pics being taken were by people sitting inside the club! Filming their own deaths. I have no idea what they were thinking.

"This is gonna be HUGE on my socials!"

They weren't wrong, unfortunately.

The video of the Station club fire has always stuck with me. It should almost be required viewing to remind people how quickly a fire can spread, and to be aware of exits when in crowded or confined spaces.

And don’t fucking pull out your phone…But we all know the human tendency toward voyeurism isn’t going anywhere.

Also, based on the graphics up thread, this place in Switzerland had just a single exit? Yikes. Even the Station club had multiple exit routes, but everyone instinctually crowded to the main one.

On 1/1/2026 at 3:23 PM, hookemATL said:

This was the first thing that entered my mind as well. Debauched and broken humans ftw!

Yeah that fire (along with the Coconut Grove fire) is a cautionary tale most firefighters learn about in detail during training. It was also the first thing that came to mind when I heard about this Swiss tragedy.

In the Station nightclub fire in R.I., the pyrotechnics were only the start of the story. There were also major issues with the exits. There was only one main emergency exit - the front entry, which most of the people in the club entered through. There were three other exits, but iirc none of them were marked as emergency exits, as one was behind the stage and was designated as an exit for the bands, and the other two were behind the bar and in the kitchen. So naturally most people tried to leave through the front door, which is what most people tend to do anyway. There was just one major problem. The front door opened inward. It should have opened outward and should have been equipped with panic hardware. Neither of those things had been installed, despite repeated directives from local fire inspectors. 90 people did manage to get out the front door, but when the fire got bad enough that people began to panick and also could not see, they flooded the narrow front entry hallway, trying to push their way out, which prevented the people nearest the door from being able to open it. They were jamming the door shut. 61 of the 100 dead were found near the front door. Sickening. The lessons learned from that single fire are extensive, and are the main reason why whenever I go to a club, movie theater, large opera house, stay in a hotel, etc, etc,the first thing I do upon arrival is scope out the exits and know which way I'm going if the shit hits the fan.

On 1/1/2026 at 7:43 PM, Bevo said:

This seems very European. Drunk bartenders, doing stupid shit. Poor fire retardation in the building with 200 year old wood rafters without fire resistant stain or fire resistant insulation. One exit that isn't easily accessible. No ceiling sprinkler system...

Yeah, now add flammable acoustic foam on the ceiling.

On 1/1/2026 at 8:09 PM, Ted Lange said:

Death trap

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Wow. So needlessly similar to the Station fire. If these club owners had learned anything at all about that fire and acted accordingly, this wouldn't have happened.

For whatever laws and codes were violated by the club owners, they should face stiff penalties. These codes aren't in place for the hell of it or to annoy the owners and managers. They're in place to prevent exactly this kind of thing from happening. You wouldn't believe how much grief some of them give FD inspectors, claiming they're just being harassed for no good reason.

54 minutes ago, LonghornSean said:

The video of the Station club fire has always stuck with me. It should almost be required viewing to remind people how quickly a fire can spread, and to be aware of exits when in crowded or confined spaces.

And don’t fucking pull out your phone…But we all know the human tendency toward voyeurism isn’t going anywhere.

Also, based on the graphics up thread, this place in Switzerland had just a single exit? Yikes. Even the Station club had multiple exit routes, but everyone instinctually crowded to the main one.

100% this.

Edited by wood

Yep. If the fire reaches flashover conditions, even firefighters are in big trouble. Imagine what it's like for people without fire gear.

When the smoke starts to come down, that's a very bad sign. When it's up high at the beginning of the video, that's because the air temperature is stratified in the room, with hotter air & smoke at the top and cooler air at the bottom. The smoke is hot and rises. When the smoke starts coming down, that's because the rest of the air is starting to reach the same temperature as the hot smoke/air at the top ... i.e. all the air/smoke in the room is reaching the same extremely hot temperature. Eventually, even the smoke itself will ignite.

Edited by wood

Re: the Station, here's a drawing showing where the bodies were found. 61 bodies right near the front doors. The drawing shows the doors opening outward, but they actually opened inward. Had they opened outward, the death toll would have much lower.

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