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Posted
2 hours ago, blacklab said:

In some places they produce steam that is piped around the city for heat.

Steam->Heat is more efficient than steam->turbine->electricity->wire->heater

The US Navy seems to like doing this on bases as well.

My complex uses boilers to heat water for the entire place. You can melt your skin off with the tap water.

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6 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Konstantin says that he spoke with a Russian acquaintance who owns a freight company who confirmed that they are not shipping anything right now - - because his trucks can’t buy enough fuel to ship the contracted goods - - and even if they have enough gas to go on a delivery, they may not be able to buy gas to get back.

Is that good? Because that doesn’t seem like it’s a good thing. 

I think that totally depends on how much vodka you have left

Posted
1 hour ago, Chad Fuck said:

Doesn't this seem like a lot of inside information really quickly?  Does that strike anyone else as odd?  

Why would they want to drag their balls across Russia's face with this, unless all this was compromised already?  

 

It does seem odd. I chalked it up to a Ukranian engineer that was employed there, at one time, that was high up enough to know the complete inner workings of the plant. Hell, it might have been a Ukranian contractor that built it. As for the air defense, they have dealt with it for four years, and probably know the timing from watching Russian reaction times to have a good idea of how to defeat it.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, choripan said:

Steam systems are common in the States, too, at least in cities in which I've lived. 

 

I steamed a rug yesterday (and cooked a nice seafood dinner) so this hits close to home. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Chad Fuck said:

Doesn't this seem like a lot of inside information really quickly?  Does that strike anyone else as odd?  

Why would they want to drag their balls across Russia's face with this, unless all this was compromised already?  

14 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

It does seem odd. I chalked it up to a Ukranian engineer that was employed there, at one time, that was high up enough to know the complete inner workings of the plant. Hell, it might have been a Ukranian contractor that built it. As for the air defense, they have dealt with it for four years, and probably know the timing from watching Russian reaction times to have a good idea of how to defeat it.

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Or it could be they have a very good grasp of Russia's defenses and its shortcomings and putting that info out there is daring the Russians to move assets around or bring forces back into Russia proper from the occupied territories. There's even been some strikes where I've wondered if they are trying to get the Russians to move AA around - it's easier to spot when it's on the move. 

Then again, the more they strike, the more outlandish stuff they pull off (such as the huge drone strike launched from within Russia against aircraft), the more paranoid Putin/Russian leadership is, the more AA and other troops/assets are moved in closer to Moscow and St. Petersburg, the more exposed other places are (whether Russian O&G facilities or Russian military sites).

We may also be reaching a point of culmination for Russian air defenses anywhere outside of Moscow or St. Petersburg.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Then again, the more they strike, the more outlandish stuff they pull off (such as the huge drone strike launched from within Russia against aircraft), the more paranoid Putin/Russian leadership is, the more AA and other troops/assets are moved in closer to Moscow and St. Petersburg, the more exposed other places are (whether Russian O&G facilities or Russian military sites).

We may also be reaching a point of culmination for Russian air defenses anywhere outside of Moscow or St. Petersburg.

This seems like a decent bet at the strategy.

Russia has only so many AA defenses.  They have to deploy them among the following competing interests: (1) protecting Russian military operations in and near Ukraine, (2) protecting Russian industrial/refining sites inside Russia, and (3) protecting the key strategic sites of Moscow and St. Petersburg.  It seems certain that they do not have the AA resources to fully protect all three.  And any attack you launch on any one of those three is an incentive to devote more AA resources to the target (kinda like how the Doolittle Raid caused at least some Japanese forces to be devoted to defending the home islands -- those resources couldn't be used elsewhere).

I'm curious about Russia's rate of AA replenishment as well.

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Posted (edited)
29 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I'm curious about Russia's rate of AA replenishment as well.

I'm guessing not very high.  Even prior to 2022, it would not have been high enough to handle the volume they've seen over even just the past year - the amount of aerial attacks is absolutely insane - up to hundreds every day, ranging from ballistic missiles down to off-the-shelf stuff dropping off-the-shelf mortar shells.  And the same could probably be said for the US, although we would focus more on destroying the threats on the ground as well as the factories and jamming the command and control. 

Evidence of this being that Ukraine has been able to repeatedly hit the same sites, even within just weeks of the first strikes, as well as the fact that it's been clear for weeks that Ukraine is going to continue to hammer O&G, and Russia has been mostly impotent to stop it.  To put it another way: If somebody in Ukraine is drawing up a list of critical sites and is following that list, somebody in Russia would be just as aware of what that list looks like.

So they are clearly short on AA replenishment.

Edited by atomheartbevo
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Posted
27 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I'm curious about Russia's rate of AA replenishment as well.

I saw an interesting video about the strike on the refinery that was north of Moscow.    Part of the genius of that attack was using flocks of super cheap drones carrying no munitions to confuse air defenses and make them spend resources to stop the large numbers of what were essentially completely useless and non-threatening drones.  

if sending up hundred dollar drones will result in expensive AA Resources being wasted by Russia, they should be doing this every night until it’s time to use the real drones or missiles. 

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