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On 10/15/2025 at 12:14 AM, PTINS said:

My screenshot; Red icons and the Red polygon in the middle are pre October strikes.  The Red icons within the Blue polygon were the Oct 6 strikes. The Blue polygon is from the FIRMS shot in the quoted post. It appears they hit everything on the easy side of the terminal, including the rail loading/unloading facilities.

I believe Ukraine has chosen not to target the 3 large tanks on the west side of the property, because they are large, and very close to civilian infrastructure adjacent to the terminal.

Should have called me. I put out a diesel fire, at fire school, in a 6'x6' pan ~ 6 " deep, with a dry powder extinguisher. 

The protocol w/ oil & gas fires, cut off the fuel source, control the fire, and then assess. your options. Burning gas (vapor, natural gas, not gasoline) in a controlled environment is preferable to a large gas plume continuing to vent and grow, looking for an ignition source, that vaporizes everything within the plume. Most big gas fires, like the one next to Walmart in Pasadena, you isolate the fire and let it burn itself out.

Most liquid fires, try to put out the fire, and clean up the mess.

From the FIRMS data, it appears that most of the facility is burning, which probably includes the fire water system, is compromised and/or to hot to get access to.  

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Updated photo of Feodosia Terminal, Crimea

Orange - Attacks prior to August 2025

Red - Attacks last week (early October)

Blue - Attacks this week

 

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Satellite Photo

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I think Ukraine is dragging their 'nads showing their capabilities of the systematic destruction of Russian infrastructure.

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"Satellite images confirm 11 fuel tanks destroyed at Crimean oil terminal after Ukrainian strikes
A key fuel supply hub for Russian forces in Crimea has lost 11 storage tanks to Ukrainian strikes this month, with several more tanks unlikely to be restored to operation.

by Maria Tril, 18/10/2025

Radio Liberty's Russian service has released satellite imagery documenting extensive damage to the oil depot in Feodosia, occupied Crimea, following Ukrainian strikes on the facility.

Ukraine's drone strikes focus on Russian military airbases, manufacturing facilities, oil refineries, and energy infrastructure. According to military analysts, these operations aim to disrupt Russia's fuel supplies and inflict economic pressure. Attacks on oil refineries have hit approximately 38-40% of Russia's refining capacity, damaging production of gasoline, diesel, and aviation fuel, which has led to shortages and price increases within Russia.

The images show 11 fuel storage tanks completely destroyed as a result of Ukrainian attacks on the site, according to Radio Liberty. Several other damaged tanks are unlikely to be recoverable.

Ukrainian forces struck the Marine Oil Terminal facilities in Feodosia on 6 October. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine described it as "a multifunctional technological complex for transshipment of oil and petroleum products from railway tank cars to sea vessels and back, as well as to road transport, which is involved in supplying the occupying army of the Russian Federation."

The massive fire that erupted following the Ukrainian strike could not be extinguished for more than two days, Radio Liberty reports.

On 13 October, Ukrainian military forces struck the Feodosia oil depot again.

The result of two Ukrainian strikes on 7 October and 13 – 11 completely destroyed fuel tanks, several damaged and unlikely to be recoverable, according to the reports.

The first Ukrainian strike on the oil terminal in October 2024 destroyed or fatally damaged 14 tanks at the hub that supplied fuel and lubricants to the Russian army in occupied Crimea. A Pantsir air defense system installed at the refinery in 2022 failed to prevent any of the three Ukrainian attacks."

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20 minutes ago, bolverk said:

The President of the United States of America...

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115391463725537040
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Not just the same colors, but the horizontal tricolor of the Russian flag in the same order: white, blue, red.

https://unn.ua/en/news/us-secretary-of-defense-hegset-wore-a-tie-in-the-colors-of-the-russian-flag-at-the-meeting-between-zelenskyy-and-trump
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Impressive to be doing domestic fascism while being a Neville Chamberlain abroad and proposing appeasement 

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15 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

@PTINS don’t know if this a new thing but Ukraine apparently trying to finish off fuel depots and the like hence the second and third strikes.   
 

 

Thanks for the post. We were both writing at the same time!

I went back this morning and looked at the recent Ukraine targets. Refineries, pump stations and oil terminals, ammunition plants and storage depots, power plants and electrical substations, critical manufacturing plants (some single source) in the supply chain. 

The cumulative effect on the Russian supply chain, economy and the capacity to make war has to be staggering. Plotting these on a map, and it's like ...

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Tomahawks cruise missiles would be a nice add, but Ukraine is fucking dunking on Russia every time they get the ball. 

Part of me says keep it up and fucking kick their ass back to the 19th century. The sad reality is that Russia will attack schools, hospitals and apartment buildings until somebody makes them stop.

When this ends, the free world will be standing in line to help rebuild Ukraine, with nobody willing to walk across the street to piss on a Russian fire. 

Maybe a massive shower of cruise missiles would do the trick. 

  

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From Euromaidan Press -  (me thinks Surly has a new subscriber)

Analysis of two months of deep strikes explains what Ukraine really targets at Russian oil refineries

Analysis of two months of deep strikes explains what Ukraine really targets at Russian oil refineries. The study reveals a deliberate focus on refinery processing units, whose loss cripples output far more than visible explosions do.

by Yuri Zoria, 15/10/2025 - 7 minute read (not a 30 minute Youtube video, ha ha!!!)

Ukraine’s two-month strike campaign against Russian oil infrastructure wasn’t random — it followed a deliberate pattern. In a detailed analysis for Mezha, Vadym Hlushko, founder of the OSINT group Cyberboroshno, reveals exactly what Ukrainian forces targeted inside Russia’s refineries — and why each strike mattered more than its explosion.

Amid the ongoing Russo-Ukrainian war, Russia is concentrating its strategic bombing campaign on Ukraine’s energy infrastructure, seeking to deprive civilians of power and heating ahead of winter. At the same time, Ukraine is in the third month of renewed long-range drone strikes against Russia’s fuel processing and transportation systems — including refineries and pipelines — aiming to disrupt military fuel logistics and reduce export revenues sustaining Moscow’s war effort.


Summer campaign marks sharp shift from earlier restraint

From spring into early summer 2025, Ukrainian forces largely avoided striking Russia's energy sector. Between 20 March and 30 June, Cyberboroshno documented 19 confirmed hits on Russian defense plants and 5 on military sites, but none on energy targets. This restraint may have stemmed from diplomatic pressure or what was described as an “energy truce,” while the focus shifted to Russia's military-industrial facilities.

The effect of those earlier strikes on defense factories was limited. Ukraine’s long-range weapons achieved some success, but without a large supply of heavy warheads, they could not inflict decisive damage on Russia’s military industry.

That dynamic shifted when Russia renewed strikes on Ukraine’s energy grid this summer. In response, Ukrainian long-range drone units reactivated their own campaign against Russian energy infrastructure. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy stated at the time that Ukraine could now launch 100 to 150 drones into Russia daily. While that figure still trails Russia’s output, the effects are growing more visible.

BBC verify counts 21 russian oil refineries hit since — already 48% more than all 2024

A record 14 refineries were hit in Russia in August and another 8 in September, sparking fuel shortages in many Russian regions.

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Map showing reported Ukrainian drone strikes on Russian oil refineries across the country, including multiple hits on major facilities. 

Data confirms growing strike rate and clear targeting logic
Cyberboroshno analyzed only confirmed attacks — verified through satellite images or on-site videos — excluding unverified media reports.  Between August and September 2025, 30 attacks on Russian energy infrastructure were confirmed. Of these, 23 were successful, 2 failed, and 5 had undetermined results.

That translates into roughly three confirmed successful strikes per week. For comparison, from January to March 2025, there were 2.1 confirmed energy infrastructure hits weekly. Ukraine has not only maintained the strike pace but increased it compared to earlier phases.

The increased tempo reflects a more concentrated strategy. Instead of hitting warehouses or logistics centers, Ukraine focused its strikes specifically on energy infrastructure.

Ukrainian drones hit refinery heart: AVT units and pipeline chokepoints

According to the analysis, most confirmed successful strikes — nine in total — targeted atmospheric vacuum distillation units (AVT). These are essential for primary crude oil processing. Damaging them can halt a refinery’s production entirely.

Atmospheric-vacuum distillation units (ELOU-AVT series) are the most critical and most frequently targeted installations. They perform the initial distillation of crude oil, feeding the rest of the production chain. When one is disabled, the refinery’s main operation stops.

ELOU-AVT-1 – Novokuybyshevsky refinery (1 August)
ELOU-AVT-4 – Gazprom Neftekhim Salavat (18 September)
ELOU-AVT-6 – Saratov refinery (10 August), Syzran refinery (15 August), Kirishi refinery (14 September), Gazprom Neftekhim Salavat (24 September)
ELOU-AVT-11 – Novokuybyshevsky refinery (20 September)
AVT (unspecified model) – Krasnodar refinery (30 August), Syzran refinery (15 August)
primary oil refining unit AT-22/4 – Afipsky refinery (26 September)

The second most frequent targets were technological overpasses — fuel pipeline systems inside the facilities. Five successful hits were recorded, four at refineries and one at a pumping station. These overpasses are critical for internal oil transport between installations. Even partial damage can disrupt entire production chains.

Saratov refinery (10 August)
Volgograd refinery (14 August, two overpasses)
Syzran refinery (15 August)
Bashneft-Novoil (13 September)
NPS “Vtorovo” (7 September)

Third came natural gas fractionation and gas-condensate processing units, with four confirmed hits, and an attack on the natural gas processing plant. These systems are vital for producing liquefied gas and petrochemical products — essential for domestic consumption and exports.

Ilsky refinery – gas fractionation unit (7 September)
Gazprom Ust-Luga Gas Condensate Complex – cryogenic gas fractionation unit (24 August)
Afipsky refinery – joint gas and condensate processing unit (7 and 28 August)
Astrakhan gas processing plant – production line (22 September)

Ukrainian drones also hit five pumping and dispatcher stations of Russia's oil pipelines. These facilities are central to major pipeline systems. Damaging them can halt crude oil delivery over hundreds of kilometers, affecting both domestic logistics and exports.

Unecha – pumping station and transfer zone (13 and 22 August)
LPS “Nikolskoye” – substation (18 August)
LPS “Naytovichi” – pumping station (29 August)
LPS “Samara” – pumping and reservoir installation (20 September)
NPS “Zenzavatka” – control station (24 September)
NPS “Tingovatovo” – unspecified damage (27 September)

Not all explosions signal success

Not every attack yielded significant results, as confirmed in two prominent examples. One involved the Ukhta refinery. Media reported explosions, air raid sirens, and a damaged tank, but no fire or critical damage followed. The only confirmed impact was a punctured tank that did not ignite.

In another case, video showed a blast near the Saratov refinery. Later, it turned out the drone had hit a nearby lake rather than the facility itself.

These examples underscore the need for careful post-strike assessment. As the analysis points out, a dramatic video alone does not guarantee the enemy suffered meaningful losses.

Supply disruptions ripple across Russian regions

Even some successful strikes brought only short-term effects. Damage to infrastructure tied to the Druzhba pipeline, for example, interrupted Russian fuel supplies to Hungary for only a few days before Russia restored operations.

However, many attacks did cause production and logistics disruptions. Russian open sources, reviewed by Cyberboroshno, reported fuel shortages in 33 out of 83 Russian federal subjects. These issues are now affecting consumers nationwide.

The timing of Ukraine’s campaign may have amplified its effect. The strikes coincided with peak fuel demand, as farmers require significantly more diesel during the harvest season. However, analysts suggest the Russian military is unlikely to face shortages — the armed forces are likely prioritized, while civilian sectors and exporters absorb most of the impact.
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Nevertheless, the campaign puts economic pressure on Moscow. Oil and petroleum products reportedly make up roughly 30% of Russia’s budget revenues.

Early numbers still misleading — true impact assessment will take time: the campaign continues into October

Determining the exact percentage of destroyed oil processing capacity remains difficult. Early in 2024, some reports claimed Ukraine had knocked out 14% of Russian refining capacity. By year-end, Russia had recovered some plants and increased output at surviving facilities. The actual annual decline was just 3%.

Now, during the current campaign, various sources report different and sometimes contradictory figures. The Russian outlet RBC claimed 38% of refinery capacity was offline, two-thirds due to Ukrainian strikes. Kommersant reported a 20% fuel shortage and a production drop of 1 million tons in September.

Cyberbotoshno notes that Ukraine’s campaign continues and conclusions remain premature.

In the first half of October, Ukraine has already hit more Russian fuel facilities.

* Ukraine struck more Russian oil refineries, including the facilities in Yaroslavl Oblast more than 700 km from Ukraine, Leningrad Oblast, facilities in Bashkortostan and Orenbug Oblast both 1,400 km away, and other processing plants.
* Several attacks targeted the Feodosiia maritime oil terminal in occupied Crimea, causing massive fires. 
* Another target was a natural gas processing plant in Volgograd Oblast.

In its October assessment, the International Energy Agency says Ukrainian drone strikes have cut Russia’s refining output by 500,000 barrels per day and will keep processing rates low until at least mid‑2026 — a forecast that does not include the impact of future strikes from Ukraine’s ongoing deep-strike campaign.

My comments:

IMO, I think the overall impact on Russian refining capacity is more than the 500,000 BPD going around.  Just some of the photos of the burning towers indicate that the main process units were damaged/destroyed. Some of those process towers had individual capacities of ~ 100,000 BPD. 

I just don't see that Russia has the skilled labor necessary to rebuild any of that any time soon. Anybody that wasn't working on a full time basis was probably conscripted and sent to Ukraine a long time ago. To rebuild refinery process units, there are probably 30-50 types of different craftsman required, each requiring unique skill sets that come from years of experience. 

"If you don't have the time to do it right the first time, when will you have the time to come and fix it?"

I remember the days of 24-36 week delivery times on large equipment items (over a year on large gas turbines) that were critical path items on the project completion schedule, and the shenanigans of other companies trying to "buy" your stuff or jump ahead of what was already on the assembly line. (I myself did not participate in those shenanigans, I just used my insight and ingenuity to get what I was entitled to.) That was from normal supply and demand, not trying replace something intentionally damaged in a war zone.   

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Edit: The video does not show the physical altercation that followed - the Swiss man protecting his wife and two-year-old child from the Russian - but Ivan was arrested by Swiss police and the nation of Ukraine has demanded that the Swiss investigate this criminality, putting pressure on the prosecution. 

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8 hours ago, bolverk said:

 

Somewhere some vatnik blogger is screaming in a video that his guys are drinking ASSWATER! ASSWATER!

Somehow I can't quite relate to this tantrum. Fuck these dipshits.

 

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17 hours ago, Parliament said:

Yeah.  Scrape all the fat off first.  Dog fat is very bitter.

Stupid Russians don’t even know enough to put a tiny bit in their bourbon and simple syrup cocktail to make an “Old Stalin”.  

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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-drones-cause-fire-russian-gas-plant-governor-says-2025-10-19/
 

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Orenburg gas processing plant, the largest facility of its kind in the world, has been forced to suspend its intake of gas from Kazakhstan after a Ukrainian drone attack, Kazakhstan's energy ministry said on Sunday.

Orenburg regional governor Yevgeny Solntsev had said earlier on Sunday that the plant had been partially damaged and that the drone strike had caused a fire to break out at a workshop at the plant. The fire was later put out, Russian media outlet Kommersant reported, citing the operator.

 

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The facility, operated by Gazprom, has an annual processing capacity of 45 billion cubic metres and handles gas condensate from both the Orenburg oil and gas field and Kazakhstan’s Karachaganak field.
Kazakhstan's energy ministry said Gazprom (GAZP.MM), opens new tab had notified it of the emergency but had yet to provide details on the extent of the damage or a timeline for resuming full operations

 

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1 hour ago, Shaddie said:

Has Russia just given up about “drone debris”causing these issues?

It's now a "fire at a workshop" and never "damaged a single-point-of-failure processing tower thing that the whole refinery relies on and if it goes out of commission the refinery is shut down".

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22 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Drumpf is still fully owned by Putin.

 

A President of the United States still echoing Putin's talking points.

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I can just imagine him if he saw Red Dawn back in 1984 - "I don't know why those kids didn't just surrender when Soviet, Cuban and Nicaraguan soldiers landed in Colorado. The war was clearly over."

The only good thing is he despises losing and there's no way Russia can sustain the current campaign against their O&G by the Ukrainians, and they damned sure can't cover it up, so he'll look like an idiot when Russians are standing in line for gas and can't heat their homes this winter. The flip side is we are apparently doing to Venezuela what Russia tried to do to Ukraine, and that's exactly the kind of thing Trump understands - hostile takeovers.

I would like to think Zelenskyy knew they wouldn't get Tomahawks (it's been obvious for a while) but wanted something lesser so by asking for something he can't get he gets something lesser, and Trump thinks he's snubbing him by giving him something lesser.  But it didn't sound like anything productive other than the US continuing to give up leadership of the free world.

As somebody pointed out, "We went from all of Ukraine to surrendering, to the four oblasts and Crimea to now just Donetsk lol"

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Trump tells Ukraine: Accept Putin’s demands ‘or be destroyed’
US president, shouting and swearing, pressures Zelensky to surrender the Donetsk region

Memphis Barker
Senior Foreign Correspondent
19 October 2025 9:01pm BST


Donald Trump demanded that Ukraine submit to Vladimir Putin’s peace terms or face destruction in an angry meeting at the White House last week, it has emerged.
The US president, who spoke with his Russian counterpart shortly before hosting Volodymyr Zelensky, warned that Putin would “destroy” Ukraine unless a peace deal was in place.
Shouting and swearing, Mr Trump threw aside Ukrainian maps of the battlefield and pressured Mr Zelensky to surrender the Donetsk region to Russia.
Putin is demanding the withdrawal of Ukraine’s army from the crucial eastern territory as a precondition for peace.
However, the surrender of Donetsk is a red line for Ukraine, which has long refused to cede the territory, which Russia has failed to capture despite fighting since 2014.
Kyiv still holds about a quarter of Donetsk province. The land makes up part of the so-called “fortress belt”, a string of heavily defended towns that blocks Russia from making rapid westward advances towards the capital.
In the White House meeting, Mr Trump echoed Putin’s talking points, despite them contradicting his own recent assessment that Moscow was a “paper tiger”, European officials briefed on the meeting told the Financial Times.
Mr Trump is said to have echoed Vladimir Putin's talking points during the meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky
Mr Trump is said to have echoed Vladimir Putin’s talking points during the meeting with Mr Zelensky Credit: Kevin Lamarque/Reuters
The US president told Mr Zelensky he was losing the war and said: “If [Putin] wants, he will destroy you.”
Mr Trump is keen to secure another peace deal following the success of his intervention in the war between Israel and Hamas.
In recent months, he has swung between Russian and Ukrainian positions, often cooling on sanctions or further military pressure on Moscow after phone calls with Putin.
At the White House, Mr Zelensky held his ground and refused to cut a deal that would leave Ukraine badly exposed. But the Ukrainian president left in a bitter mood, dashed in his hopes that Mr Trump would authorise deliveries of long-range Tomahawk missiles.
On Saturday, Friedrich Merz, the German chancellor, said the visit “had not gone as Zelensky hoped”.

On Sunday, Mr Zelensky told NBC News that “I don’t know the dialogue between President [Trump] and Putin,” adding only that he believed Tomahawks could pressurise Moscow into serious peace negotiations.
Asked whether Mr Trump needed to get tougher on Putin, following his decision to turn the screws on Israel and Hamas, Mr Zelensky said: “Yes… because Putin is something similar but more strong than Hamas. It’s more bigger war and he is the second [largest] army in the world.”
He denied that Russia was winning the war and said that Putin was after more than just a further tranche of territory, in remarks that appeared to reflect his discussion with Mr Trump.
‘This is not about territory for Putin’
Russia’s “army now [is] in a weak position,” he said, having lost 1.3 million men to capture just 1 per cent of Ukrainian land since near the start of the war.
“And really I don’t understand why the leader of the country which has the biggest territory in the world needs some more kilometres – that’s why I think that this war is not about the land and not about territory for him. It’s about our sovereignty and about our independence.”
Mr Trump is set to meet Putin in Budapest within the next fortnight in an attempt to make progress on a peace deal.
During their phone call, Putin told Mr Trump he was willing to cede small parts of the southern Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions under Russia’s control in exchange for the rest of the Donbas. Moscow has struggled to control the territory and made almost no progress on the southern frontline since 2022.
A European diplomat told the Washington Post that Ukraine would never accept such a deal. “It’s like selling them [Russia] their own leg in exchange for nothing,” they said.
On Sunday, Mr Zelensky said he told Mr Trump he was ready and willing to attend the Budapest summit, but cast doubt on whether Putin was seriously prepared to make peace.

 

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51 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Trump tells Ukraine: Accept Putin’s demands ‘or be destroyed’
US president, shouting and swearing, pressures Zelensky to surrender the Donetsk region

Ok, so not quite a Chamberlain. Mea Culpa.

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I gotta say, Hap Arnold, Carl Spaatz and Curtis LeMay must be looking down and smiling upon Ukraine's strategic bombing campaign.  Every morning I wake up and wonder which link the Russian supply chain will be on fire today.  

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1 minute ago, Chad Fuck said:

I gotta say, Hap Arnold, Carl Spaatz and Curtis LeMay must be looking down and smiling upon Ukraine's strategic bombing campaign.  Every morning I wake up and wonder which link the Russian supply chain will be on fire today.  

One or two might be looking up, but yeah.

Meanwhile, Orenburg appears to have another fire

Local residents report a new fire at the Orenburg Gas Processing Plant. Eyewitnesses are posting videos of smoke, but regional emergency officials insist there’s “no fire.” Sure — the atmosphere just got a little overheated. A day earlier, the facility was already attacked by drones: according to Governor Yevgeny Solntsev, part of the infrastructure was damaged and one of the workshops caught fire.

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Real leadership

Lithuanian Foreign Minister: “The only European city where Putin should end up is The Hague” Kęstutis Budrys said this before the start of the EU Foreign Affairs Council meeting in Luxembourg. Budrys also stressed that he does not consider it possible for Putin’s plane to fly through Lithuanian airspace and advised the dictator to look for alternatives.
 

It is the only road of this class that directly connects Poland with Finland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania Via Baltica plays a crucial role in the region’s security, defense, and economic development.

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Donald Trump said that during his talks with Volodymyr Zelensky, the idea of handing over Donbas to Russia was “never discussed.” According to him, the talks were only about freezing hostilities along the current front line.
Earlier, The Washington Post reported that Vladimir Putin allegedly proposed to Trump ending the war in exchange for parts of the occupied Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions.

Meanwhile, Financial Times claimed that Trump echoed Putin’s talking points and urged Zelensky to withdraw Ukrainian troops from Donbas, warning that otherwise Russia could “destroy” Ukraine

The President of Ukraine revealed that it was U.S. Special Envoy Witkoff who brought up the idea of Ukraine giving up Donbas during their meeting in Washington. 

Zelensky responded firmly, saying that Russia’s so-called “referendums” were a farce conducted after the occupation. “The Russians claim they held a vote among ‘their people,’ but between the invasion and that so-called ‘referendum,’ ten years passed,” he said. 

When Witkoff referred to the fact that the results of these “referendums” were written into Russia’s Constitution, Zelensky replied: “If tomorrow Putin adds something else there — are we supposed to give it up again? And if I add two Russian regions to Ukraine’s Constitution, will they withdraw from those territories?”

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