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39 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Haven't seen anything about it. He definitely should be fired, but can Hawaii afford it? It's only about a $1.3M buyout but they've never bought out anyone for more than 600k before according to a story I read a while back (https://www.sfgate.com/collegesports/article/hawaii-football-troubles-under-coach-todd-graham-16670501.php).

He's such a raging asshole, but the bigger issue was that everyone's known this for a long time. Hawaii's decision to hire him was awful. The AD should have to forfeit half of his pay for a decade to pay the buyout.

I can't say too much without giving it away as to who would say it but, someone on his staff said all he talks about is how this is his retirement $$. All it is about is the $$.

He is one of the biggest assholes in all of college football. I think he'd probably get a large portion of the votes for the biggest asshole.

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42 minutes ago, quigley said:

What are thoughts on this guy @notre dame joe?

He's been with Kelly a long time. Two good offenses at ND in four years as OC  at ND per FEI, 2015 and 2017.

After a good offensive year, he takes a lateral move to Cincy??? Meh offenses at Cincy over the last four years.

The rap was Denbrock was a yes-man while Kelly was the real OC.  Although the offense wasn't the problem in our 4-8 year in 2016; AD Savvy Jack forced BK to hire two real coordinators outside of his inner circle.

Kellys rigidly scripted offense will live and die on the connection between QB and X-WR.  It all depends on whom he can recruit to LSU.

 

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1 minute ago, notre dame joe said:

The rap was Denbrock was a yes-man while Kelly was the real OC.  Although the offense wasn't the problem in our 4-8 year in 2016; AD Savvy Jack forced BK to hire two real coordinators outside of his inner circle.

Kellys rigidly scripted offense will live and die on the connection between QB and X-WR.  It all depends on whom he can recruit to LSU.

So the authoritarian vibe Kelly exudes may have some real effect. I don't remember those offenses being very explosive, but they were pretty efficient. Good to learn Kelly's populating his staff with yes-men (Denbrock) and low performers (Cooks). Cain seems like the one good hire. Hopefully, the new DC from the NFL will try to install overly complex schemes.

Do you have any insight into the S&C guy he brought down? As an OU fan, I think I'm going to be watching a lot of SC. Are you going to be watching more LSU?

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2 hours ago, quigley said:

So the authoritarian vibe Kelly exudes may have some real effect. I don't remember those offenses being very explosive, but they were pretty efficient. Good to learn Kelly's populating his staff with yes-men (Denbrock) and low performers (Cooks). Cain seems like the one good hire. Hopefully, the new DC from the NFL will try to install overly complex schemes.

Do you have any insight into the S&C guy he brought down? As an OU fan, I think I'm going to be watching a lot of SC. Are you going to be watching more LSU?

Kelly runs a fairly standard shotgun pass fist spread, by now it may be old hat.  If the qb makes the perfect read and throws it to the perfect matchup, and there are no other failures to execute, then it's good for 30 points.  

I wouldn't worry much about the staff since Kelly will micro-manage.  Polian is nominally a special teams coach but actually the ace recruiter. Cooks was very conservative.  The S&C man was an assistant, we retained the guy who strongyl upgraded our program in 2018.

I assume Disney will make me watcha share of the SEC.  Right now I am worried about Lincoln Riley with SC's skill position talent. 

 

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On 1/1/2022 at 2:08 PM, ClubWhatever said:

from the article above

I’m not one that goes against player’s rights nor do I generally criticized this generation as overly woke, BUT cry me a fucking river that is some of the weakest complaints I’ve ever seen calling a coach “abusive”.  If I was working as an editor and that shit came across my desk I’d tell the writer to drop that and just focus on the fact that he’s a shitty coach.  I don’t give two shits about Graham or the Rainbow Warriors but someone is trying real hard to find dirt here and it looks pathetic.

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SC got Shaun Nua from Michigan. He's probably their best defensive coach and a great fit there. The DL improved in recruiting and production while he was with the Wolverines, and he's American Samoan so may do well recruiting Polynesian players. Good recovery for Riley after losing Cain to LSU.

https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Article/Michigan-Wolverines-FOotball-updates-analysis-Shaun-Nua-USC-179879355/

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3 hours ago, quigley said:

SC got Shaun Nua from Michigan. He's probably their best defensive coach and a great fit there. The DL improved in recruiting and production while he was with the Wolverines, and he's American Samoan so may do well recruiting Polynesian players. Good recovery for Riley after losing Cain to LSU.

https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Article/Michigan-Wolverines-FOotball-updates-analysis-Shaun-Nua-USC-179879355/

Sounds like he's got the Polynesian ties.

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On 1/4/2022 at 12:45 PM, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Can't say I would be surprised. Feels like right time if he's wanted to go back.

You wonder if he realizes getting to the playoff is as far as he (or any coach) will ever be able to take Michigan, so why not jump

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Interesting insight from our $9.95er on Chip's contract situation.  Fucking Sexton.  Dude thinks he has leverage he does not.  Chip has done absolutely nothing to earn a raise, yet has been offered one.  Sexton wants a bigger one, plus likely a bigger buyout than UCLA is willing to offer.  His record would have gotten his ass fired at more than 50% of the schools in FBS.  

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When it comes to the contract negotiations between UCLA and Chip Kelly, most UCLA fans are looking toward Jan. 15th as the big deadline. That’s the last day of Kelly's fourth year of his five-year contract, and when the reciprocal buyout of $9 million expires. That means either UCLA or Kelly could walk away as of Jan. 16th and not be responsible to the other for that $9 million.

But from what I’m hearing, an equally significant date – or even more significant – is Jan. 10th. That’s the annual “Black Monday” for the NFL, the first Monday after the last regular-season game when there is a flurry of NFL coaching firings. After that date, insiders believe that everything will change in the negotiations between UCLA and Kelly – because the entire landscape will change. There could be upward of 8 or 9 NFL head coaching jobs open, and Kelly could get some legitimate interest. Or, maybe even illegitimate interest. Remember, Kelly's agent, Jimmy Sexton, is a guy who can fabricate interest in his clients through the media to attempt to leverage better current deals. So imagine what Sexton will attempt to do after Black Monday. Rumors could be floated tying Kelly to NFL head coaching jobs and even offensive coordinator positions. In the process, the UCLA program could be damaged considerably, with rumors being spread that UCLA isn’t a coach-friendly place, doesn’t pay market value for coaching salaries, doesn’t take football seriously, etc.

From what I’ve heard, there are on-going negotiations between UCLA and Kelly’s camp, including a decent amount of meetings. I can’t say specifically what is keeping the deal from getting done at this point. At one time I was told that UCLA had offered Kelly a decent salary bump and reasonable extension, one that industry insiders thought was appropriate for Kelly’s job performance at UCLA – or maybe even a little generous. I have heard the situation described as UCLA athletic director Martin Jarmond sticking to his guns, and not willing to capitulate to any unreasonable terms. The feeling in the industry is that Sexton used the open Oregon job to try to leverage Jarmond, even though Kelly really wanted to remain at UCLA, and Jarmond weathered that.

An industry source thought that both sides have some leverage at this point. For Jarmond and UCLA, if Kelly wants to leave, the feeling is that there will potentially be worthy candidates for the UCLA job available, some in the college coaching ranks and some from the pro ranks, and he could fire Kelly anytime after Jan. 15th and it wouldn't cost him the $9 million buyout. From the Kelly camp perspective, it probably feels it has some leverage because of the looming threat of Black Monday. This industry source thought, then, that some kind of agreement would have to get done before Monday, the 10th, probably by this Friday or Saturday, or there’s a good chance it won’t get done at all and UCLA and Kelly could part. It’s thought that there is little to no chance that Kelly would coach at UCLA as a lame duck in his fifth and final year of his contract, that it's just an untenable situation from both perspectives of Kelly and UCLA and it’s something that just isn’t done within the industry.

Now, many of you might be skeptical that any NFL team would be legitmately interested in Kelly, but from the real world perspective within the NFL, Kelly is well-respected as a very good football mind and there could be an NFL owner that might want to hire him. For one thing, the NFL has changed a bit since Kelly was a coach. There are fewer head coaches that have complete, general-manager-like control, and many are mainly responsible for being essentially a coordinator for one side of the ball. In that model, Kelly might even be more attractive to an NFL owner, since Kelly has a reputation as a better offensive coordinator than a general manager. And let's face it, when it comes to coaches in the NFL, Chip Kelly is a much better, pure coach and offensive coordinator than many of the guys who currently have head coaching jobs.

A UCLA source we spoke with was still confident an agreement would get done between UCLA and Kelly. The industry source believes it’s likely something has to get done before Black Monday, so that means the clock is truly ticking on this, and that something could happen in the next few days. If it doesn’t, and we make it to Black Monday, everything could change between UCLA and Kelly.

Black Monday cuts both ways in my book.  There will be a number of high profile NFL guys looking for work after that as well.  Our roster is in good shape, and with the right NFLer, we might be able ot lure a few more transfers that would otherwise look elsewhere.  Jarmond can't blink.

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Wow. Supposedly a good recruiter and coach. How many options are better than him?

 

    Can confirm that Ohio State o-line coach Greg Studrawa is out in Columbus, per a source. @FootballScoop had it first.
    — Chris Hummer (@chris_hummer) January 6, 2022

 

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2 hours ago, quigley said:

Wow. Supposedly a good recruiter and coach. How many options are better than him?

 

    Can confirm that Ohio State o-line coach Greg Studrawa is out in Columbus, per a source. @FootballScoop had it first.
    — Chris Hummer (@chris_hummer) January 6, 2022

 

UCLA's Justin Frye a top candidate to replace him.  Would be a huge loss for us.

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1 hour ago, Parliament said:

Ohio produced four, 4* OL prosects last year.  We got ONE.  Across all position groups, Ohio OL is one of the better ones that we produce talent for.  Despite that, we haven't exactly killed it at OL recruiting.

Does Ryan Day have the same FOMO that Riley did at OU?

Riley sometimes favored national recruits with higher recruiting profile over in-state/regional recruits that profiled similarly.

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19 hours ago, quigley said:

 

These are usually very amusing. LSU's hire of He gave Brian Kelly an A.

What does Dennis Dodd know about anything?

 

 

BK to LSU is A GAMBLE for both sides, high risk/high pay.  It feels of to say that a coach with four consecutive 10 win seasons is a risk but in this environment he is.

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42 minutes ago, Deej said:

Kevin Sumlin coaching the USFL's Houston Gamblers.

Former Gamblers HC became the HC for the University of Houston. 

Former UH HC is now the HC of the Gamblers.

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1 hour ago, quigley said:

Does Ryan Day have the same FOMO that Riley did at OU?

Riley sometimes favored national recruits with higher recruiting profile over in-state/regional recruits that profiled similarly.

I'd say he's pretty neutral.  Recruiting in-State is complicated. You gotta offer guys early, just to get in the door, and in-State guys tend to accept the offer real fast.  It's always a balancing act on WHEN to offer.  Still though.  

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23 hours ago, topochico said:

Former Gamblers HC became the HC for the University of Houston. 

Former UH HC is now the HC of the Gamblers.

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No one can escape the gravitational pull of Houston medicrocity.

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Siap...   Mark Stoops is expected to turn to the family for his new linebackers coach

JOHN BRICE

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Sources: Stoops expected to join ... Stoops at Kentucky

Mike Stoops, who played in the NFL after a star career at the University of Iowa and who has coached at some of college football's biggest programs, including Alabama and Oklahoma, is expected to return to the Southeastern Conference.

Multiple sources tell FootballScoop that Stoops is slated to join the staff of his brother, University of Kentucky head man Mark Stoops, in a defensive assistant role working with the Wildcats' linebackers.

Mark Stoops, whose Wildcats just closed their second 10-win season in four years with a bowl triumph last Saturday against his alma mater, Iowa, has been seeking a replacement for Jon Sumrall.

Early last month, Sumrall, a fast-rising coaching star, was hired as head coach at Troy University, but Sumrall completed the task with the Wildcats and helped coach the Kentucky team to a narrow win against Iowa in the Citrus Bowl.

In Mike Stoops, Mark Stoops is poised to get a coach with whom he obviously is comfortable and who also has seen programs excel at the highest levels of college football.

During the first of two decorated stops at Oklahoma, Mike Stoops helped Bob Stoops and the Sooners to the program's 2000 national championship, and Mike Stoops also was an defensive analyst on Alabama's 2020 national title team.

Additionally, he has coached at Kansas State and most recently spent the 2021 season as defensive coordinator at Florida Atlantic.

The Owls allowed 25.75 points per game -- a scoring defense that ranked inside the top 60 and ahead of such Power 5 programs as Oklahoma, Oregon, Florida, Mississippi State, Wake Forest, Texas and Tennessee, among others. 

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9 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Siap...   Mark Stoops is expected to turn to the family for his new linebackers coach

JOHN BRICE

10 HOURS AGO

Sources: Stoops expected to join ... Stoops at Kentucky

Mike Stoops, who played in the NFL after a star career at the University of Iowa and who has coached at some of college football's biggest programs, including Alabama and Oklahoma, is expected to return to the Southeastern Conference.

Multiple sources tell FootballScoop that Stoops is slated to join the staff of his brother, University of Kentucky head man Mark Stoops, in a defensive assistant role working with the Wildcats' linebackers.

Mark Stoops, whose Wildcats just closed their second 10-win season in four years with a bowl triumph last Saturday against his alma mater, Iowa, has been seeking a replacement for Jon Sumrall.

Early last month, Sumrall, a fast-rising coaching star, was hired as head coach at Troy University, but Sumrall completed the task with the Wildcats and helped coach the Kentucky team to a narrow win against Iowa in the Citrus Bowl.

In Mike Stoops, Mark Stoops is poised to get a coach with whom he obviously is comfortable and who also has seen programs excel at the highest levels of college football.

During the first of two decorated stops at Oklahoma, Mike Stoops helped Bob Stoops and the Sooners to the program's 2000 national championship, and Mike Stoops also was an defensive analyst on Alabama's 2020 national title team.

Additionally, he has coached at Kansas State and most recently spent the 2021 season as defensive coordinator at Florida Atlantic.

The Owls allowed 25.75 points per game -- a scoring defense that ranked inside the top 60 and ahead of such Power 5 programs as Oklahoma, Oregon, Florida, Mississippi State, Wake Forest, Texas and Tennessee, among others. 

Mike did a lot to hasten the end of Bob Stoops tenure at OU.

Looks like Mark's made enough money to feel like he can make a nepotistic hire now too.

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19 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

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Unfortunately, OU may be taking your DB coach off your hands too.

Though in my dream scenario, Harbaugh goes to the NFL, and OU picks up Clinkscale from the the Wolverines.

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13 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

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During the first of two decorated stops at Oklahoma, Mike Stoops helped Bob Stoops and the Sooners to the program's 2000 national championship, and Mike Stoops also was an defensive analyst on Alabama's 2020 national title team.

 

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At UK?

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Siap...   Mark Stoops is expected to turn to the family for his new linebackers coach
JOHN BRICE
10 HOURS AGO
Sources: Stoops expected to join ... Stoops at Kentucky
Mike Stoops, who played in the NFL after a star career at the University of Iowa and who has coached at some of college football's biggest programs, including Alabama and Oklahoma, is expected to return to the Southeastern Conference.
Multiple sources tell FootballScoop that Stoops is slated to join the staff of his brother, University of Kentucky head man Mark Stoops, in a defensive assistant role working with the Wildcats' linebackers.
Mark Stoops, whose Wildcats just closed their second 10-win season in four years with a bowl triumph last Saturday against his alma mater, Iowa, has been seeking a replacement for Jon Sumrall.
Early last month, Sumrall, a fast-rising coaching star, was hired as head coach at Troy University, but Sumrall completed the task with the Wildcats and helped coach the Kentucky team to a narrow win against Iowa in the Citrus Bowl.
In Mike Stoops, Mark Stoops is poised to get a coach with whom he obviously is comfortable and who also has seen programs excel at the highest levels of college football.
During the first of two decorated stops at Oklahoma, Mike Stoops helped Bob Stoops and the Sooners to the program's 2000 national championship, and Mike Stoops also was an defensive analyst on Alabama's 2020 national title team.
Additionally, he has coached at Kansas State and most recently spent the 2021 season as defensive coordinator at Florida Atlantic.
The Owls allowed 25.75 points per game -- a scoring defense that ranked inside the top 60 and ahead of such Power 5 programs as Oklahoma, Oregon, Florida, Mississippi State, Wake Forest, Texas and Tennessee, among others. 

Mike Stoops played in the NFL? Wait, what? Quick run to Pro Football Reference and, yes, Mike played three games for the Bears in 1987 … as a scab player during the player’s strike.
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