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So basically, it's an overt money grab where the thing that your dedicated fan base wants to see won't be there.  That is, chemistry between guys who have spent so much time together playing they know when the guy next to them is going to take his next breath, but maybe surprise everyone with the next note.  So that hard core fan base won't be terribly inspired to come see you play because what they want won't be there, but The Brothers Robinson are banking that another group of people (unknown youngsters with a sense of nostalgia for what they've never seen, perhaps?) wants to see you play your 30 year old debut album and disregard everyone else?

Man, I'm not buying it.  This doesn't bode well.  

 

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6 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

So basically, it's an overt money grab where the thing that your dedicated fan base wants to see won't be there.  That is, chemistry between guys who have spent so much time together playing they know when the guy next to them is going to take his next breath, but maybe surprise everyone with the next note.  So that hard core fan base won't be terribly inspired to come see you play because what they want won't be there, but The Brothers Robinson are banking that another group of people (unknown youngsters with a sense of nostalgia for what they've never seen, perhaps?) wants to see you play your 30 year old debut album and disregard everyone else?

Man, I'm not buying it.  This doesn't bode well.  

 

Literally. Literally.

The reason behind the tour was pretty simple, according to Chris. "We want to celebrate the most commercial part of our life," he said.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8543215/black-crowes-confirm-reunion-tour

 

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Just now, SwanderedTalent said:

Literally. Literally.

The reason behind the tour was pretty simple, according to Chris. "We want to celebrate the most commercial part of our life," he said.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8543215/black-crowes-confirm-reunion-tour

 

Well hell, didn't see that.  Thanks for the correction.

That just doesn't seem to be how you roll out a tour - "Hey, we hate each other and fuck all our old bandmates.  Come see us.  We're not here to entertain you, just dancing bears who want to take your money."

 

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Just now, Chad Fuck said:

Well hell, didn't see that.  Thanks for the correction.

That just doesn't seem to be how you roll out a tour - "Hey, we hate each other and fuck all our old bandmates.  Come see us.  We're not here to entertain you, just dancing bears who want to take your money."

 

Oh I didn't mean it as a correction, I meant it as a corroboration. You're spot on, and I agree, I am somehow still surprised they'd exacerbate the dissatisfaction the diehard fans have with the new lineup by taking the "fuck our old bandmates" attitude. I mean I'm not surprised the Robinson brothers would be assholes. They're assholes. I just mean of all the ways to respond to it, they've picked the most obnoxious one. 

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25 minutes ago, SwanderedTalent said:

JamBase via Rolling Stone says

Chris and Rich will be backed by guitarist Isaiah Mitchell of Earthless and former Tedeschi Trucks Band bassist Tim Lefebvre as well as Once & Future Band members Joel Robinow on keyboards and drummer Raj Ojha

How can they not at least get Marc Ford and Sven Pipien?  Those guys have been playing in The Magpie Salute.  Chris probably blackballed them just to spite Rich.  Those four could at least get away with calling themselves the Black Crowes.

 

 

This wasn't Led Zeppelin

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No Ford, Gorham or Pipien - Not my money.


Yup.

I think I’d rather spend 25% of the cost of this and see a Black Crowes tribute band.

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Gorman was never going to happen but it's shocking that they aren't bringing in Ford and Pipien to establish a legit Crowes tour.   Ticket sales for a nationwide amphitheater/arena tour that isn't skipping many, if any, potential tour spots should be interesting.  

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Sounds like a bag of nails in the TMS coffin. Interesting that Rich's last phrase included the word "Omission," which I believe was the first single released by The Magpie Salute.

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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/the-black-crowes-play-first-reunion-concert-in-new-york-city-video-setlist/

THE BLACK CROWES played their first reunion show last night (Monday, November 11) at the Bowery Ballroom in New York City. The concert took place just hours after brothers Chris and Rich Robinson announced a 46-date 2020 tour to celebrate the 30th anniversary of THE BLACK CROWES' classic debut album, 1990's "Shake Your Money Maker".

Joining Chris and Rich in the new BLACK CROWES lineup are EARTHLESS guitarist Isaiah Mitchell, former TEDESCHI TRUCKS BAND bassist Tim Lefebvre along with ONCE AND FUTURE BAND members Joel Robinow on keyboards and Raj Ojha on drums.

The 60-minute Bowery Ballroom concert in front of a 600-strong crowd saw THE BLACK CROWES perform only the songs from the band's debut, along with the encore cover version of THE ROLLING STONES' "It's Only Rock 'N Roll (But I Like It)".

The setlist was as follows:

01. Twice As Hard
02. Jealous Again
03. Sister Luck
04. Could I've Been So Blind
05. Seeing Things
06. Hard To Handle
07. Thick N' Thin
08. She Talks To Angels
09. Struttin' Blues
10. Stare It Cold
11. It's Only Rock 'N Roll (But I Like It)

Regarding the decision to enlist all-new members for THE BLACK CROWES' reunion, Chris told Rolling Stone: "That was the first thing Rich and I agreed on. We don't want anyone from the solo groups. We don't want anyone from the past." Rich added: "In order to make this work. To give Chris and I the space to…" Chris interjected: "Be here right now."

 

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hey look at that, they've finally busted out the "It's Only Rock N Roll" cover they refused to do 21 years ago

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51 minutes ago, Lurch said:

 

So today a caller called into Howard and asked what being in open E tuning was and Howard explained it. Then he went on to say how he couldn’t hear Chris singing but after the performance said how good they were lol

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So today a caller called into Howard and asked what being in open E tuning was and Howard explained it. Then he went on to say how he couldn’t hear Chris singing but after the performance said how good they were lol


I wonder if Chris had the same problem. Notice how bothered he is by the headphones

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When I got my first drum set, one of the first things I did was put on my headphones, put this CD in my boombox and played along with Hard To Handle

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I saw they are coming through The Woodlands in June.  I'm in.  Maybe we can get a Houston Surly group together?  Probably not.

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I reread Gorman's book the last couple of days and came up with an example of what bothered me (slightly) about it. It seems like he sets stuff up in places, and then there's no payoff. The whole thing with Rich declining Jimmy Page's offer to collaborate is the best example. He spends multiple pages on how colossally stupid the decision was, how much he wanted to murder him for disrespecting Page and declining his help, etc. He ends the chapter by saying he decided at that point he would never play with Rich again.

And a few years later, he's back in the band. No giant confrontation with Rich, no conversation, discussion, anything. He goes from hating and wanting to murder the guy and swearing he'll never play with him again to "OK, I'm back in the band" without ever addressing in the book what came of those feelings. Did it never get discussed? Did he never ask for an explanation? Did it not really bother him that much, did he just exaggerate for effect? 

There's a disconnect there, and I feel like there are disconnects like that throughout the book. Which is fine, my memoir wouldn't be binary IF THENs for 400 pages either, but I think that's why I felt slightly off reading it. 

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2 minutes ago, SwanderedTalent said:

I reread Gorman's book the last couple of days and came up with an example of what bothered me (slightly) about it. It seems like he sets stuff up in places, and then there's no payoff. The whole thing with Rich declining Jimmy Page's offer to collaborate is the best example. He spends multiple pages on how colossally stupid the decision was, how much he wanted to murder him for disrespecting Page and declining his help, etc. He ends the chapter by saying he decided at that point he would never play with Rich again.

And a few years later, he's back in the band. No giant confrontation with Rich, no conversation, discussion, anything. He goes from hating and wanting to murder the guy and swearing he'll never play with him again to "OK, I'm back in the band" without ever addressing in the book what came of those feelings. Did it never get discussed? Did he never ask for an explanation? Did it not really bother him that much, did he just exaggerate for effect? 

There's a disconnect there, and I feel like there are disconnects like that throughout the book. Which is fine, my memoir wouldn't be binary IF THENs for 400 pages either, but I think that's why I felt slightly off reading it. 

It seemed he usually mentioned what lured him back him, but you're right about this example.

That all kind of came at that point where he just started rushing through things and a lot of the details fell by the wayside.  In hindsight, it seems like the story built up to the Jimmy Page incident, and then the aftermath was really, really rushed to the end point.  With (assumedly) a ton of details left out.  There's a decade of Black Crowes existence that was pretty much "yada yada yada'd".

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Looks like they are going to be at Red Rocks in Aug.  Will be getting tickets.

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Otis Redding's the best thing to come out of Macon, Ga.

Perhaps not much of an accomplishment (Little Richard probably No.2), but I love that the Black Crowes and Robinson Bros. appreciated him so much.

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2 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Otis Redding's the best thing to come out of Macon, Ga.

Perhaps not much of an accomplishment (Little Richard probably No.2), but I love that the Black Crowes and Robinson Bros. appreciated him so much.

Listen, I love Otis as much as the next person but goddamnit if Long Tall Sally doesn’t get my dick hard every time I hear it.

I have issues.

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Ann Wilson talking about, and covering, "She Talks To Angels". I got tired of that song about 25 years ago, but this was interesting. I love Ann Wilson's voice, but her treatment of this song... I dunno. It's a little much in places. It's a simple, laid-back song, and it seems like her only idea of what to do with all the space is to fucking blast it. But it's cool. I can't even begin to imagine how cool it would be to have Ann Wilson cover a song you wrote. 

 

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That song did old, especially when it became one of the most frequently played wrongly in music stores in the 90s.

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The Black Crowes manager Mark DiDia first leaked news of the reunion on The Howard Stern Show, forcing an early announcement. Nikki Sixx said at a press conference yesterday, “We would have announced it here, the way it should have been. It was announced by The Black Crowes manager, which I heard their tour was just cancelled and he got fired, unfortunately, but that doesn’t affect our stadium tour.”

The Black Crowes mocking Robert Plant was recently revealed. Total13 responded on the MetalSludge.TV forums, appearing to shoot down Sixx’s claim, “Tour is still on….Mark is somewhat of an old school rock legend in the radio promo label world and now managing(which a lot of those type of guys are doing now). The Black Crowes and this Stadium Tour are both Live Nation tours so if there was any pressure to get rid of Mark it would of come from Live Nation from him leaking the stadium tour…personally I think Nikki is talking out of his ass. There is too much money on the table with both tours.”

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Jesus that’s a poorly written article. I searched for the original assuming there was more content making it logical, but nope...

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On 11/22/2019 at 6:40 PM, Braff Zacklin said:

Otis Redding's the best thing to come out of Macon, Ga.

Perhaps not much of an accomplishment (Little Richard probably No.2), but I love that the Black Crowes and Robinson Bros. appreciated him so much.

Rich would probably tell Otis to go fuck himself.

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17 hours ago, Lurch said:

Jesus that’s a poorly written article. I searched for the original assuming there was more content making it logical, but nope...

That's not a real website. Literally, their articles are made up bullshit. Computer generated fake news.

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