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1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

“I got drunk on shore leave in Croatia” is a plausible explanation for an accidental SS Totenakmpf SS tattoo. Not having covered it up before a senate run many years later is incredibly dumbshit behavior if that’s what you’re rolling with. One must be simply be prepared that political enemies might use a massive SS tattoo against you. 

Or simply getting it removed. 

My best friend IRL is a jarhead and he had a fucking Celtic cross on his back that he got in Japan when he was active duty because he thought it looked cool and he damn near made it to 40 before he knew that it had been co-opted by white supremacist/Neo-Nazi groups. The dude was so rarely shirtless that I didn't notice for years until we were out on the lake one day like 8 years ago.

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah, mostly this.  And y'all know my pretty unambiguous stance on Nazis (I think they are bad....which is apparently a controversial and un-American take these days, to hear the admin tell it).

I actually was having a conversation over the weekend with a professor that teaches at UH Manoa from Germany. She got her PhD in Electrical Engineering in Finland and I told her what I'm doing for a masters. We talked about the nazis and her grandfather was a party member if I remember right. She finds America to be a pretty odd place overall right now.

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59 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

That seems a little on the nose and it's 3rd hand info but ick if true

Yeah it feels slimy. If someone was going to say this anonymously, at least choose a more reputable publication to do it.

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Yeah, if he'd had it removed it would've been incredibly easy to come up with an explanation that would've been acceptable to most liberals. It could've been anything from "I was young and stupid and didn't know what it was but got it removed once I learned what it was" to "I was an outright nazi but reformed and let me tell you why..." 
"I got it because I was drunk and stupid and I knew what it was and have known for the last ~20 years and I've still got it and won't get it removed because it doesn't mean anything" ain't it. 

Certainly someone sat him down and said, “If you’re going to run, we need to know the skeletons. Affairs. Debts. Giant Nazi tattoos. The whole bit.” That was the point at which you go get it removed no matter how plausible your “I was an idiot teen jarhead on leave” story is.
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3 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:


Certainly someone sat him down and said, “If you’re going to run, we need to know the skeletons. Affairs. Debts. Giant Nazi tattoos. The whole bit.” That was the point at which you go get it removed no matter how plausible your “I was an idiot teen jarhead on leave” story is.

Things are pretty gotdam grim when we can’t easily cast aside the bonehead with an accidental SS tattoo because otherwise who will appeal to the Rogan chucklefucks.

Whatever the failings of establishment gatekeeping, it seems its absence is significantly worse. Maine elections should be “Country Club Republican with a sailboat” versus “Not a hippie anymore Democrat (also has a sailboat).”

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1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

The Pod Save interview was clearly an attempt to try to get out in front of the Jewish Insider story, which was most likely a Republican hatchet job, not a Democratic hatchet job. That's not the type of place they'd leak this to. 

The likeliest explanation is that he's a fucking idiot and he's always been a fucking idiot. That's why he was a jarhead in the first place, that's why he and his boys got nazi tattoos they probably thought looked cool as shit, and that's why he's posted a mixture of completely fine and reasonable and very stupid shit all over Reddit (and probably elsewhere online) for the past decade. His politics have probably evolved somewhat but are likely still largely incoherent because he's an idiot, but he figured out how to speak in a register that appeals to liberals and leftists who are looking for someone who seems like they'll actually fight Republicans. I get the appeal and why people are trying to defend him, but this guy ain't it.   

Contested primaries are good. If he can’t beat MeeMaw he doesn’t deserve the nomination, but going out on apology tour is what sunk Beto against Cruz.
Platner should lean INTO his meathead past and shouldn’t apologize for jack shit. 

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15 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Things are pretty gotdam grim when we can’t easily cast aside the bonehead with an accidental SS tattoo because otherwise who will appeal to the Rogan chucklefucks.

Things ARE pretty fucking grim. These are the punk rock times we were born for. We go where eagles dare.

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44 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Contested primaries are good. If he can’t beat MeeMaw he doesn’t deserve the nomination, but going out on apology tour is what sunk Beto against Cruz.
Platner should lean INTO his meathead past and shouldn’t apologize for jack shit. 

Assuming he doesn't drop out before the primary.

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57 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Assuming he doesn't drop out before the primary.

That would be chickenshit. It would also be  good for Susan Collins and therefore bad for America.
Contested primaries and flawed candidates get attention and are therefore good. 

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I agree that the ignorance and stupidity should be disqualifying, but A) as far as I can tell none of us are Mainers so my opinion (and most of our opinions) on it should not factor into his next move, and B) we are way, way past the point of ignorance and stupidity mattering to voters. We need to do whatever it takes, within the bounds of contemporary decency, to flip this seat and hold onto it for at least six years. I don't think Janet Mills has what it takes to defeat Susan Collins, and it's by no means a sure thing that she would even live long enough to finish a six year term.

If it turns out to be the case that he was lying to the American people by trying to convince the Pod Johns he was ignorant of the Nazi symbol, that would be disqualifying.

If it turns out to be the case that he's antisemitic and/or white supremacist, that would be disqualifying.



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