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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Or is that all ok as long as stonks stonk and your taxes don't go up?

 

 

1 hour ago, Vegas64 said:

You just described in a nut shell the middle/centrists.

That's quite a self-report to admit that you're cool with the destruction of our constitutional rights and the ongoing attack on anyone the Administration deems "other", as long as your stonks keep stonking.

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10 minutes ago, Captainant said:

 

That's quite a self-report to admit that you're cool with the destruction of our constitutional rights and the ongoing attack on anyone the Administration deems "other", as long as your stonks keep stonking.

I didn't say that was me. I said that was what the "middle/centrists" seem to be representing. I could be wrong, maybe centrists have a different north star. What do you think it is?

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14 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Are you "in the middle" on Trump's tariffs?  Militarization of cities?  Brutalization of immigrants and other browns?  Open politicization of executive departments, including DOJ, complete with retaliation against civil servants?  DOGE?  RFK?

Or is that all ok as long as stonks stonk and your taxes don't go up?

 

How about we make a deal. If I ever want to join “the sky is falling” echo chamber to discuss these topics, I’ll sashay on over to the CR. If you ever want to discuss the market, this is the place.

What I won’t do is head to the CR and call people out for not caring about the stock market, even though I know some of them do. Likewise, others shouldn’t jump into the stock market thread and call people out for not caring about social issues, even though some of us do.

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8 hours ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

How about we make a deal. If I ever want to join “the sky is falling” echo chamber to discuss these topics, I’ll sashay on over to the CR. If you ever want to discuss the market, this is the place.

What I won’t do is head to the CR and call people out for not caring about the stock market, even though I know some of them do. Likewise, others shouldn’t jump into the stock market thread and call people out for not caring about social issues, even though some of us do.

You're the one that brought up Nancy Pelosi.  Not to defend her, but you realize that unlike most Congress critters, her spouse is a professional investor.

Also, point of order, those things I mentioned aren't "social issues," they are fundamental to our system of government and how it operates.

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On 10/14/2025 at 1:15 AM, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

Almost assuredly, and maybe slightly more egregious than the greatest trader of all time, Nancy Pelosi. She killed hedge funds and professional traders while focused on her actual career.

 

4 hours ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

There’s a forum for that…

Indeed.

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Unfortunately for everyone not in the robber baron class, political office has enabled all sorts of egregious behavior which used to be prosecuted.  I think that reality reflects the fact that if you are in fact a member of the political class you can do what you want, unlike the peons outside the class.  We're stuck with rules.  Very Soviet like.

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14 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

You're the one that brought up Nancy Pelosi.  Not to defend her, but you realize that unlike most Congress critters, her spouse is a professional investor.

I know another powerful figure whose family member could be called a professional investor, too. It’s amazing how that happens…

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Cash is king when everyone needs to get cash. And Buffet is not seeing investment opportunities in today's market with enough value to prevent potential losses.  His cash position has build because of lack of opportunities presenting a level of value worthy of investing in, and cash can buy a LOT of value in a steep market sell off.  

my Cliff's notes take...

 

 

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I'm holding a space for $300 billion.  It's, like, several 5 gallon buckets and my bathtub. So, I'm like, halfway through my plan.  Now, all I need is $300 billion to fill them with.  

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

I'm holding a space for $300 billion.  It's, like, several 5 gallon buckets and my bathtub. So, I'm like, halfway through my plan.  Now, all I need is $300 billion to fill them with.  

Concepts of a plan!

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6 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

I'm holding a space for $300 billion.  It's, like, several 5 gallon buckets and my bathtub. So, I'm like, halfway through my plan.  Now, all I need is $300 billion to fill them with.  

Sorry you are a Surly poor, if that was my plan I would only need $299,999,995,000, because I'm a multi-thousandaire (nice humblebrag, eg)

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16 hours ago, horn4life said:

So ADP is now going to withhold Labor Statistics from Fed?

Wonder who put a finger on that lever?

Reminds me of blocking COVID testing because if you don't know then it's not happening 

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18 hours ago, horn4life said:

So ADP is now going to withhold Labor Statistics from Fed?

Wonder who put a finger on that lever?

Probably ADP.  Anyone with a remote level of survival instincts would avoid being the single source of data on a topic such as that.  Its lose-lose. 

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8 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Probably ADP.  Anyone with a remote level of survival instincts would avoid being the single source of data on a topic such as that.  Its lose-lose. 

Quoted for emphasis 

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3 minutes ago, UTPhil2006 said:

Quoted for emphasis 

Indeed.

We live in a time and place where any enterprise, if it is focused on its business success, studiously avoids saying anything that would upset the regime.

Jesus fucking tapdancing Christ.  What a fucking timeline.

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23 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Indeed.

We live in a time and place where any enterprise, if it is focused on its business success, studiously avoids saying anything that would upset the regime.

Jesus fucking tapdancing Christ.  What a fucking timeline.

You're not allowed to point out the national debt has risen by $2,000,000,000,000 (trillion) since January 2025, or that domestic agriculture and cattle is being bumble fucked by $40,000,000,000 of bailouts for foreign countries. Good thing we have DOGE on the case

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Do y'all even stop to think about what you are emphasizing unironically? 

"Of course ADP has stopped putting out the jobs report they've released every month for the last ~20 years! Pffft, anyone that wanted their company to survive would know not to do that."

Why is that? What would happen to ADP that might impact their "survival" if they released numbers that reflected a slowing economy? Be specific. 

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2 minutes ago, The Royal We said:

Do y'all even stop to think about what you are emphasizing unironically? 

"Of course ADP has stopped putting out the jobs report they've released every month for the last ~20 years! Pffft, anyone that wanted their company to survive would know not to do that."

Why is that? What would happen to ADP that might impact their "survival" if they released numbers that reflected a slowing economy? Be specific. 

Sure.  Start with a massive, intrusive, and purposefully intimidating DOJ investigation into ADP, followed by criminal charges, and/or a civil injunction, and/or designating the release of such "fake news, false information intended to hurt America" as terrorism, etc. etc.  Another path: threaten to terminate all government contracts with any enterprise that uses ADP in any capacity, and get friendly state governments (Texas, Florida, etc.) to do the same.  These are tactics this admin has already used in other situations.  Dude.  There are no norms, there are no guardrails.  It's mafia rule.  "What would the mafia do?" gives you your script.

The regime can destroy any private enterprise rather quickly, and has demonstrated the willingness to do so.

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1 hour ago, The Royal We said:

Of course ADP has stopped putting out the jobs report they've released every month for the last ~20 years! Pffft, anyone that wanted their company to survive would know not to do that."

They aren't stopping announcing numbers.  They are stopping providing numbers to Fed.

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9 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

They aren't stopping announcing numbers.  They are stopping providing numbers to Fed.

Well, either they provide the Fed with the same data that's publicly announced, in which case why say anything.  Or, they give the Fed something they don't give the public.  And if the latter, which seems more likely, why?

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2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

And if the latter, which seems more likely, why?

based on the last few years of conflicting information between Fed and ADP whenever the Fed starts back up there will be conflict in the data.  So why would you want to be the sole provider to Powell, who is already on the hot seat, when you know there will be differences between what you provide and what the Fed produces?

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