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42 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Based on what?


Last night he blamed his players for his coaching failure of not properly coaching the team to be ready for a trick play on special teams. That was a huge dick move on his part. Leaders take responsibility and assholes blame others for their own failures. 

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4 minutes ago, Helobious said:

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Sark straight up does not recruit Texas or Florida. He goes all in on California and dabbles in Georgia.

What the fuck are you talking about? There are 70 fucking players from Texas on the roster. Our #1 ranked recruiting class had 15 players from Texas out of the 25 man class. 
10 of the current 21 in the 2026 class are from Texas.

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3 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Sark straight up does not recruit Texas or Florida. He goes all in on California and dabbles in Georgia.

Seventyish players from Texas. Ten from California. Four from Arizona.

But Sark straight up does not recruit Texas.

Classic Helo.

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34 minutes ago, TXpride said:

There's not some massive gap between us and OSU/UGA in recruiting. We're consistently top 5 and had the #1 class last year. We also (allegedly) have the most expens

ive roster in the country. Point being, we have the resources to win at least some of these games. If you want to argue that our talent level isn't actually what the recruiting rankings say it is, then we have a problem with evaluation and development. Either way Sark is falling short.

The margins are razor thin at the very top.  IMO it comes down to killer instinct.  I have never experienced in my Texas time of being a student, alum and fan,  a HC at Texas with the  IT factor.  Day I believe has it, Kirby, Saban, Urban, Stoops all had it.  

I work in a highly entrepreneurial field with family owned and operated businesses.  You can have a great line in a prime real estate location, but if the leader (in my case the owner and GM) is lacking equal parts supreme organizational skills, accountability measures, charisma, experience, competency and known verifiable results (ie skins on the wall), a competitor possessing those attributes of success, with equal product and less desirable addressable market will eat their lunch.  I see it every day.  Speed of the captain, speed of the ship is a tired old saying, but it means something.  It means something in business, in sports management, in how one runs his household etc..

In this analogy, Texas has the product, the market and resources, but the Leadership ( Ie head coach....we have the AD) is lacking.  Does your leader have 25 years experience ?  Or one year experience , 25 times?  I think the answer to your point is we have had the latter and have had the ladder for a long time.

We make coaches so rich here and provide all the resources that they lose the granular day to day attention to detail that manifests, in for example not accounting for the pre-snap sugar huddle motion, or the "don't jump offsides" key word that should like "fire, fire , fire"....or "this is a spot where UGA likes to use a fake (last years SEC CG) or yesterday's on side.  

These are example of the most minute details that i have to believe is cultural and rote to the coaches mentioned above.  The words i keep coming back to are preparation and attention to detail.  I was told a story by a client who is BMD at Bama about Saban and his John Wooden shoelaces.  He told the operations guy he wanted him to bring the recruit in to his office and he would be tying his (Saban) shoe when he (operations guy) and the recruit walked in.  He reminded the operations guy not to say anything the next time he brought a recruit in, as he would be tying the same shoe.  Point is Saban wanted to demonstrate to the kid how tying his shoes mattered, and that was how he started the conversation.  Its a story as old as time, that Wooden would start every season teaching his players how to tie their shoes and put their socks on.  The culture started right there in that moment.

I dont think Texas has had a coach like that.  Its anecdotal, but we wont win consistently big until we have a head coach who doesn't practice to get things right, they practice until they cant get it wrong.  Kirby is there and its showing.  UGA's level of execution last night was all coaching, leadership and preparation.

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2 minutes ago, Newy25 said:


Last night he blamed his players for his coaching failure of not properly coaching the team to be ready for a trick play on special teams. That was huge dick more on his part. Leaders take responsibility and assholes blame others for their own failures. 

That doesn't make him a bad guy.

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Just now, David Dennison said:

Seventy plus players from Texas. Ten from California. Four from Arizona.

But Sark straight up does not recruit Texas.

Classic Helo.

How many of those 70 are scholarship players? Probabably 25 or less. The rest would be walk-ons, of course they will mostly be from Texas.

Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

That doesn't make him a bad guy.


That literally makes him a bad guy. 

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Posted
10 minutes ago, deech said:

We were so unprepared for them going for on that second fourth down attempt.  We should have used a timeout.  (Yes I know how valuable they are to a team trailing in the fourth quarter)

The most unprepared we’ve looked all season was both games coming off bye weeks. 

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Just now, Newy25 said:


They literally makes him a bad guy. 

OK.

Lulz.

1 minute ago, Helobious said:

How many of those 70 are scholarship players? Probabably 25 or less. The rest would be walk-ons, of course they will mostly be from Texas.

Show your work.

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1 minute ago, Helobious said:

How many of those 70 are scholarship players? Probabably 25 or less. The rest would be walk-ons, of course they will mostly be from Texas.

Can you count?

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Posted
5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Seventy plus players from Texas. Ten from California. Four from Arizona.

But Sark straight up does not recruit Texas.

Classic Helo.

He's right about one thing. We need more pipe-hitting Chicanos in the locker room

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Posted
1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

OK.

Lulz.

 


You are taking these weird contrarian views today. You ask a question, people provide you examples and you plug your ears with your fingers and shout back “No it doesn’t!” 
 

Really bizarre hill to die on. The Sark is a great guy hill without much evidence other than he speaks nicely at press conferences. 

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Need to get back to running the football. And whatever happens after that, happens. 
 

beef up the o line, the d line and then the o line again 

RBU. BRING THAT IDENTITY BACK

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9 minutes ago, Helobious said:

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Sark straight up does not recruit Texas or Florida. He goes all in on California and dabbles in Georgia.

The only point this dumbshit post makes to me is that we should see how we can continue to creep on LA more, especially with LSU's current disarray.  25th in population and 6th in NFL player output.  That's a nice positive spread.

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Just now, Newy25 said:


You are taking these weird contrarian views today. You ask a question, people provide you examples and you plug your ears with your fingers and shout back “No it doesn’t!” 
 

Really bizarre hill to die on. The Sark is a great guy hill without much evidence other than he speaks nicely at press conferences. 

You didn't provide any examples. 

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9 minutes ago, Helobious said:

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Sark straight up does not recruit Texas or Florida. He goes all in on California and dabbles in Georgia.

The only point this dumbshit post makes to me is that we should see how we can continue to creep on LA more, especially with LSU's current disarray.  25th in population and 6th in NFL player output.  That's a nice positive spread.

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3 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

The margins are razor thin at the very top.  IMO it comes down to killer instinct.  I have never experienced in my Texas time of being a student, alum and fan,  a HC at Texas with the  IT factor.  Day I believe has it, Kirby, Saban, Urban, Stoops all had it.  

I work in a highly entrepreneurial field with family owned and operated businesses.  You can have a great line in a prime real estate location, but if the leader (in my case the owner and GM) is lacking equal parts supreme organizational skills, accountability measures, charisma, experience, competency and known verifiable results (ie skins on the wall), a competitor possessing those attributes of success, with equal product and less desirable addressable market will eat their lunch.  I see it every day.  Speed of the captain, speed of the ship is a tired old saying, but it means something.  It means something in business, in sports management, in how one runs his household etc..

In this analogy, Texas has the product, the market and resources, but the Leadership ( Ie head coach....we have the AD) is lacking.  Does your leader have 25 years experience ?  Or one year experience , 25 times?  I think the answer to your point is we have had the latter and have had the ladder for a long time.

We make coaches so rich here and provide all the resources that they lose the granular day to day attention to detail that manifests, in for example not accounting for the pre-snap sugar huddle motion, or the "don't jump offsides" key word that should like "fire, fire , fire"....or "this is a spot where UGA likes to use a fake (last years SEC CG) or yesterday's on side.  

These are example of the most minute details that i have to believe is cultural and rote to the coaches mentioned above.  The words i keep coming back to are preparation and attention to detail.  I was told a story by a client who is BMD at Bama about Saban and his John Wooden shoelaces.  He told the operations guy he wanted him to bring the recruit in to his office and he would be tying his (Saban) shoe when he (operations guy) and the recruit walked in.  He reminded the operations guy not to say anything the next time he brought a recruit in, as he would be tying the same shoe.  Point is Saban wanted to demonstrate to the kid how tying his shoes mattered, and that was how he started the conversation.  Its a story as old as time, that Wooden would start every season teaching his players how to tie their shoes and put their socks on.  The culture started right there in that moment.

I dont think Texas has had a coach like that.  Its anecdotal, but we wont win consistently big until we have a head coach who doesn't practice to get things right, they practice until they cant get it wrong.  Kirby is there and its showing.  UGA's level of execution last night was all coaching, leadership and preparation.

I think Cignetti fits the mold as well. A disciplined dickhead. I thought it could be Herman when we hired him, but he only had the dickhead part.

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Our recruits are good, otherwise the bluebloods wouldn't also be offering them or trying hard to land them.

The problem is we do nothing to develop them, and they regress under Sark.

Every great player we've had over the past three years has been great in spite of Sark, not because of him.

Posted
1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

You didn't provide any examples. 


If you are going to turn into a troll now maybe you should back away from the phone. 

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7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Show your work.

I stopped after looking at our last 2 recruiting classes. There actually is a lot of Texas players, not majority but a lot. But holy shit it looks like every single receiver we signed last year is overrated garbage.

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1 minute ago, Helobious said:

I stopped after looking at our last 2 recruiting classes. There actually is a lot of Texas players, not majority but a lot. But holy shit it looks like every single receiver we signed last year is overrated garbage.

What do you think the word majority means?

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1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

Our recruits are good, otherwise the bluebloods wouldn't also be offering them or trying hard to land them.

The problem is we do nothing to develop them, and they regress under Sark.

Every great player we've had over the past three years has been great in spite of Sark, not because of him.

Man I dunno. I’m as pissed and reactionary and critical as anyone, but we went from having zero guys drafted to regularly getting 12-15 dudes into the league. Sark deserves some credit for developing those guys. 

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32 minutes ago, deech said:

I feel like Sark the GM never gave Sark the coach a chance this year.  

That being said Sark the coach got his ass handed to him yesterday by Kirby the coach.  Then lied about how they practiced that special teams shit to save face.  There is not a single well coached special teams unit that is lining up 15 yards away from the kicker and instantly running backwards in unison if they are well prepared for an onside kick.  That's not on the players.  100% on the coaches and he is fucking lying. 

He didn’t lie about practicing for an onside kick. Earlier in the week he mentioned special teams being a part of the preparation for Kirby. I have no doubt they actually practiced onside kicks, fake punts or anything else that may surprise them. The problem is Sark’s inability to properly implement these areas of concern in the game plan. You have to drill to the players that this shit changes the game and can be a defining factor in the outcome. I think it’s obvious we go through the motions at practice when it comes to stuff like this. It’s all part of our guys being undisciplined in key moments during the game. 

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9 minutes ago, Newy25 said:


You are taking these weird contrarian views today. You ask a question, people provide you examples and you plug your ears with your fingers and shout back “No it doesn’t!” 
 

Really bizarre hill to die on. The Sark is a great guy hill without much evidence other than he speaks nicely at press conferences. 

He’s sarks wife.  Same routine every week.  Sark can do no wrong. 

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5 minutes ago, Helobious said:

I stopped after looking at our last 2 recruiting classes. There actually is a lot of Texas players, not majority but a lot. But holy shit it looks like every single receiver we signed last year is overrated garbage.

That rgv ged showing up again

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1 minute ago, Levi said:

He didn’t lie about practicing for an onside kick. Earlier in the week he mentioned special teams being a part of the preparation for Kirby. I have no doubt they actually practiced onside kicks, fake punts or anything else that may surprise them. The problem is Sark’s inability to properly implement these areas of concern in the game plan. You have to drill to the players that this shit changes the game and can be a defining factor in the outcome. I think it’s obvious we go through the motions at practice when it comes to stuff like this. It’s all part of our guys being undisciplined in key moments during the game. 

Yep, simple failure of discipline, particularly mental discipline. They practiced it, but it happened in the 4Q of the game after a lot of stuff went down.  As a coaching staff, you still have to be sitting there 2.5 hours after kick, reminding your unit as they go on the field what to be on the lookout for (and I seriously doubt that happened, especially from Sark himself, given he is buried in what he's about to have to call on the next series).  Players need to be responsible for the same shit as well.  

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7 minutes ago, Gucci_Suit said:

Man I dunno. I’m as pissed and reactionary and critical as anyone, but we went from having zero guys drafted to regularly getting 12-15 dudes into the league. Sark deserves some credit for developing those guys. 

He fell ass backwards into Worthy, Banks, and Hill in 3 consecutive years. Quinn at Georgia or Ole Miss or staying at tOSU goes no later than the 2nd round. 

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Sark isn't a talent maximizer. That's why he tends to look pedestrian against teams where he doesn't have a solid talent advantage. 

That's okay if you're an elite accumulator and assessor of talent, but with NIL being what it is, he won't have the overwhelming talent needed to be effective.

The hope is that his ability to bring in and develop high level QBs would help stabilize the most important position in the sport. This season has been filled with examples that prove that it takes a full team to be elite. You have to be borderline elite to make it out of the SEC.

Not too optimistic in this regime anymore, but it could be worse. Hopefully it doesn't bottom out. 

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Just now, Atticus said:

Sark isn't a talent maximizer. That's why he tends to look pedestrian against teams where he doesn't have a solid talent advantage. 

That's okay if you're an elite accumulator and assessor of talent, but with NIL being what it is, he won't have the overwhelming talent needed to be effective.

The hope is that his ability to bring in and develop high level QBs would help stabilize the most important position in the sport. This season has been filled with examples that prove that it takes a full team to be elite. You have to be borderline elite to make it out of the SEC.

Not too optimistic in this regime anymore, but it could be worse. Hopefully it doesn't bottom out. 

For reference Lane has his 3rd consecutive 10 win season while averaging around the 20th ranked roster. 

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Bobby put out a couple articles today and seems like he’s running cover for the program. Sad Bobby has been reduced to this and won’t he objective about the program and Sark. OTF basically seems like Texas version of TexAgs at this point. 

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1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Bobby put out a couple articles today and seems like he’s running cover for the program. Sad Bobby has been reduced to this and won’t he objective about the program and Sark. 

Hes a yes man to sark.  I think nahlin is too

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4 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

He fell ass backwards into Worthy, Banks, and Hill in 3 consecutive years. Quinn at Georgia or Ole Miss or staying at tOSU goes no later than the 2nd round. 

Don't forget the portal guys going to the NFL also, Sark didn't exactly develop them either.

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1 minute ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Hes a yes man to sark.  I think nahlin is too

 

3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Bobby put out a couple articles today and seems like he’s running cover for the program. Sad Bobby has been reduced to this and won’t he objective about the program and Sark. 

Its a business for them. 

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19 minutes ago, Gucci_Suit said:

Man I dunno. I’m as pissed and reactionary and critical as anyone, but we went from having zero guys drafted to regularly getting 12-15 dudes into the league. Sark deserves some credit for developing those guys. 

Yea. That shit was sad. 

 

source- CGPT
 

There were 25 players from Texas high schools taken in the 2014 NFL Draft.

 

(And just to connect it back: that’s the same draft where Texas Longhorns had zero picks, but 6 other colleges in the state of Texas did have players drafted.  )

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Just now, immamac said:

 

Its a business for them. 

Isn’t the business of being a news outlet supposed to be objectivity? At this point they rarely break any news and just report on it after other sites break it. They are just a program propaganda machine. 

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Sorry Sark and Banks, but that front line on the onside wasn't even remotely prepared or ready for that kick.  They just stood there like idoits.  Absolutely no resistance, blocking, or even attempt at recovering the ball.

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8 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Bobby put out a couple articles today and seems like he’s running cover for the program. Sad Bobby has been reduced to this and won’t he objective about the program and Sark. OTF basically seems like Texas version of TexAgs at this point. 

what he saying?

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6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Isn’t the business of being a news outlet supposed to be objectivity? At this point they rarely break any news and just report on it after other sites break it. They are just a program propaganda machine. 

William Randolph Hearst would like to have a talk with you. 

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4 minutes ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Sorry Sark and Banks, but that front line on the onside wasn't even remotely prepared or ready for that kick.  They just stood there like idoits.  Absolutely no resistance, blocking, or even attempt at recovering the ball.

And what is so dumb is given that it seems like 80+% of regular kickoffs are buried in the back of the end zone these days, the idea of immediately running back and setting up a return should ALWAYS be secondary to "take a moment to make sure they are not pulling something before setting up the return" for the front line of the return team.  It shouldn't even be a "oh, we prepared for that this week" thing.  It should be a "it's the way we manage it" thing.  

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5 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Isn’t the business of being a news outlet supposed to be objectivity? At this point they rarely break any news and just report on it after other sites break it. They are just a program propaganda machine. 

Objectivity probably doesn't sell a lot of subscriptions.

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6 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Yep, simple failure of discipline, particularly mental discipline. They practiced it, but it happened in the 4Q of the game after a lot of stuff went down.  As a coaching staff, you still have to be sitting there 2.5 hours after kick, reminding your unit as they go on the field what to be on the lookout for (and I seriously doubt that happened, especially from Sark himself, given he is buried in what he's about to have to call on the next series).  Players need to be responsible for the same shit as well.  

Imo Texas is missing out on witnessing Sark’s full potential of being a HC with his stubbornness of being the OC. To what degree that is, who knows. It’s possible he’s only slightly better in preparation and awareness during the game. Still think that is something the players, NIL people and fans deserve to see after wondering the desert for a decade plus. But at least we’re not dealing with the stupidity of Strong or the narcissism of Herman. If Sark wants to die by his own sword then we’ll find someone who is fully present in all phases of the game. 

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57 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

You make it sound like this is sarks gist rodeo.  He’s 51.  Been a hc at two other big name schools

That's completely reading something into what I wrote.

The objective fact is that our main competition these days has been recruiting top five classes, with and without NIL and the portal, for more than a decade. One of our top competitors, who had done the same, bailed because of NIL and the portal.

We've been doing it a couple three years, continuously and under the same coach or "regime."  

I didn't speak to whether Sark knows this, recruits and evaluates well, or anything of that nature.

But there is a qualitative and quantitative difference in recruiting/talent between us and the teams that are regularly kicking our asses.

 

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He always turned me off with his "all gas no brakes" 

Such a bullshit slogan for him and Texas. Run up the score with backups giving them experience. Break their soul by giving them no hope. Kill the lesser team 70 to 0 and the better teams 45 to nothing. He always turtles and or shits the bed. 

He tries to play nice and "balanced" . fuck that ,beat the life out of the opponent

Use all the resources we have to crush all other teams . hire the best and brightest and pay them top dollar

 

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