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8 minutes ago, Nope said:

 

His statement in the first tweet certainly does NOT apply to this board. I'm pretty sure most here have operated under the assumption that we did/do. We've had discussions about the topic.

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45 minutes ago, bolverk said:

His statement in the first tweet certainly does NOT apply to this board. I'm pretty sure most here have operated under the assumption that we did/do. We've had discussions about the topic.

yeah, he's being a little histrionic, but I'm sure all the russian trolls/bots were sicced on him for even suggesting it. so I kinda get it

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2 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

surprised the rooskies didn't send a sub to take it out before it could arrive

 

They really should announce something like “in light of new information that has been passed on to us, we are releasing this yacht from US custody and the owner is free to take it.  Also, we are lifting all sanctions and restrictions on the owner of this yacht.”

Just randomly drop restrictions on various oligarchs.  Make Putin paranoid as fuck.

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On 6/27/2022 at 8:30 PM, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

yeah, he's being a little histrionic, but I'm sure all the russian trolls/bots were sicced on him for even suggesting it. so I kinda get it

Michael Tracey IS a Russian troll. Well known shitheel who did some seriously garbage “reporting” from Rzeszow in the first weeks after spending the winter swearing the attack wouldn’t happen and calling predictions “fraudulent” and “phony.” Total piece of shit who deserves no benefit of the doubt. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Michael Tracey IS a Russian troll. Well known shitheel who did some seriously garbage “reporting” from Rzeszow in the first weeks after spending the winter swearing the attack wouldn’t happen and calling predictions “fraudulent” and “phony.” Total piece of shit who deserves no benefit of the doubt. 
 

 

That poor boy is clearly still traumatized from that severe beating he took from Maxine Waters.

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15 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Kurds always getting thrown under the bus.

I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. I assume Erdogan was holding out for some sort of gift and I hope that as soon as the papers are signed and the Finns and Swedes are members of NATO they’ll continue to operate as usual with regard to the Kurds.

Erdogan sucks. It’s a mess. We can’t kick Turkey out of NATO. It’s probably a bad thing that the coup attempt didn’t succeed. The value of a secular, mainstream, moderate Muslim majority country in our Western alliance can’t be overstated. But then the religious nuts are busy taking over our own country so we have bigger fish to fry here at home.

Religion poisons everything.

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I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. I assume Erdogan was holding out for some sort of gift and I hope that as soon as the papers are signed and the Finns and Swedes are members of NATO they’ll continue to operate as usual with regard to the Kurds.
Erdogan sucks. It’s a mess. We can’t kick Turkey out of NATO. It’s probably a bad thing that the coup attempt didn’t succeed. The value of a secular, mainstream, moderate Muslim majority country in our Western alliance can’t be overstated. But then the religious nuts are busy taking over our own country so we have bigger fish to fry here at home.
Religion poisons everything.

Agree on all of this.
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8 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Erdogan sucks. It’s a mess. We can’t kick Turkey out of NATO. It’s probably a bad thing that the coup attempt didn’t succeed. The value of a secular, mainstream, moderate Muslim majority country in our Western alliance can’t be overstated. But then the religious nuts are busy taking over our own country so we have bigger fish to fry here at home.

 

He has an election coming up in a year, so hopefully the west won't have to deal with him much longer.

 

On 6/24/2022 at 10:18 AM, The Dog said:

that's gotta be sabotage

 

On 6/24/2022 at 11:06 AM, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

or shitty engineering/programming. looks like someone/something brought it back to base. wonder how many soldiers were killed. that was a large blast

 

Or some drunk slav installing the gyroscope upside down.

 

On 6/27/2022 at 12:33 PM, Nope said:

 

 

Only a moron would think there aren't intelligence guys on the ground, it's literally their job. They're aren't any actual military formations in Ukraine. There's a difference.

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7 minutes ago, MagicSoccerSpray said:

Only a moron would think there aren't intelligence guys on the ground, it's literally their job. They're aren't any actual military formations in Ukraine. There's a difference.

If we have an embassy there, we have a CIA presence there. 

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19 minutes ago, Pods said:

100%, GRUHorn is fooling no one with this fake liberal persona. 

Haven't been here long enough to know who GRU is nor his posting style. That being said if we can afford being the world police we can afford giving ppl healthcare like every other first world country provides. Do you agree?

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On 6/27/2022 at 11:32 AM, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

surprised the rooskies didn't send a sub to take it out before it could arrive

 

the most beautiful downtown skyline in America.  

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2 hours ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

Does anyone here think this goes through next winter without some sort of ceasefire? Europe is going to be bent over a barrel and they will be pushing us and Ukraine to find an off ramp.

Europe wants to be done with Putin once and for all.  That means finding alternate energy sources, supplying Ukraine, etc.

Hell, even Germany is looking at confiscating part of Nordstream 2 and using it.

Hell, Finland and Sweden are joining NATO.

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2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Joe Biden and his team are not getting enough credit for getting Finland and Sweden across the fin(n)ish line. Adding those two is a massive upgrade to the Alliance. Unlike the last few rounds, they come to the table ready and with plenty to offer.  His team used a lot of patient and non-histrionic diplomacy with the Turks and the Nordics to get to “yes” in a way everyone can live with.  The Alliance and Western security is stronger. 

When it comes to foreign policy, Biden’s hit a home run. When it comes to inflation and gas prices and supply chain issues, those are global problems so I don’t know how any of those can be blamed on him. Of course the Republicans are going to blame him for them just out of partisan self-interest. Here’s something bad, blame a Democrat.

The Ukrainians might build him a statue. They would’ve been fucked of Trump were re-elected. 

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3 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

When it comes to foreign policy, Biden’s hit a home run. When it comes to inflation and gas prices and supply chain issues, those are global problems so I don’t know how any of those can be blamed on him. Of course the Republicans are going to blame him for them just out of partisan self-interest. Here’s something bad, blame a Democrat.

The Ukrainians might build him a statue. They would’ve been fucked of Trump were re-elected. 

Of course the moron Republicans want Biden to somehow take over the means of production in the oil industry so we can have cheaper gas prices,  but they also are strongly against socialism...

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53 minutes ago, SKJ said:

Of course the moron Republicans want Biden to somehow take over the means of production in the oil industry so we can have cheaper gas prices,  but they also are strongly against socialism...

Huh? That doesn’t even make sense.

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7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Europe wants to be done with Putin once and for all.  That means finding alternate energy sources, supplying Ukraine, etc.

Hell, even Germany is looking at confiscating part of Nordstream 2 and using it.

Hell, Finland and Sweden are joining NATO.

We’ll see. Their resolve hasn’t really even been tested yet, but it’s coming. 

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11 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Huh? That doesn’t even make sense.

Let me slow it down for you. 

1) they blame Biden for gas prices,  but Biden does not control production... they want Biden to lower gas prices,  but how can he without controlling the means of production of oil? Therefore,  they want Biden to adopt a socialist policy because prices. 

2) they are radically anti-socialist

Yes,  it makes no sense... it's just another of their complete cognitive failures involving cognitive dissonance 

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7 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Joe Biden and his team are not getting enough credit for getting Finland and Sweden across the fin(n)ish line. Adding those two is a massive upgrade to the Alliance. Unlike the last few rounds, they come to the table ready and with plenty to offer.  His team used a lot of patient and non-histrionic diplomacy with the Turks and the Nordics to get to “yes” in a way everyone can live with.  The Alliance and Western security is stronger. 

I really hate sacrificing the Kurds to Erdogan to get it done, but adding Finland and Sweden to NATO is a big fucking deal. 

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11 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I really hate sacrificing the Kurds to Erdogan to get it done, but adding Finland and Sweden to NATO is a big fucking deal. 

realpolitik is ugly fucking business.  Because humans are an ugly fucking species.

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11 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I really hate sacrificing the Kurds to Erdogan to get it done, but adding Finland and Sweden to NATO is a big fucking deal. 

Expanding NATO is a big deal and a big “Fuck you!” to Putin. I don’t know to what extent we’ve sold out the Kurds. I haven’t heard any reporting on it. Is it worse than when Trump betrayed them in Syria? 

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10 hours ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

We’ll see. Their resolve hasn’t really even been tested yet, but it’s coming. 

Iron Man Reaction GIF
 

Taking in millions of refugees, paying a shitload more for gas, food, electricity, etc., and having Russia threaten them, isn’t testing their resolve?

Shit, the US is now supplying more natural gas by ship than Russia is by pipeline and the Germans are going to take part of Nordstream 2 from the Russians.  Things are changing.

And Putin is helping out by having his pundits go on Russian TV and talk about nuking Europe and America.

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10 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

I really hate sacrificing the Kurds to Erdogan to get it done, but adding Finland and Sweden to NATO is a big fucking deal. 

10 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

realpolitik is ugly fucking business.  Because humans are an ugly fucking species.

We are living through a 21st Century version of The Great Game (not the ‘69 football game with Arkansas), just with implications reaching much farther than Afghanistan and India.  

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