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I don't think Notre Dame will ever go B1G. I would bet the B1G's top (realistic) targets are UNC, UVA, and Florida State. I would think the SEC is similarly after UNC and UVA and assume they're also interested in FSU and Clemson.

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Guess ACC money not enough for "TREE"...   what a joke

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Blaming the policies of President Donald Trump's administration, Stanford University is revealing plans to cut more than 350 full-time positions -- with nearly 10% of those jobs in the school's athletics department. 

Stanford earlier this summer announced as a school that it would pare some $140 million from its operating budget.

This week, the University revealed that a significant portion of those cuts would come in the form of layoffs to more than 360 employees.

Midday Thursday, veteran West Coast reporter John Canzano first reported that Stanford's cuts included approximately 30 Cardinal athletics department employees.

FootballScoop reached out directly to Stanford University's athletics communications and athletics director for comment but has not received response at this time.

Stanford just last week hired former Nike executive John Donahoe as its athletics director. The school has not disclosed Donahoe's salary nor terms of his contract, but he arrives at the school after making roughly $60 million in compensation from Nike in 2023-24 per multiple reports.

It's been just one year since Stanford formally joined the ACC for its conference home in NCAA athletics as the then-Pac-12 disintegrated. That move instantly incurred a marked increase in operating expenses for the Cardinal, which saw its football team in 2024 play road games at Syracuse, Clemson, Notre Dame and North Carolina State, among others. 

The school issued a general statement on the widespread cuts.

"Stanford is in the process of making budget reductions. Last week, many schools and units made staff workforce reductions," the statement read. "In total, 363 layoffs occurred."

Stanford athletics has still thrived overall in the NCAA landscape, placing third nationally in the most recent Learfield Director's Cup that measures total athletic department success.

But the Cardinal football program is just 10-26 in its last three seasons. The school has fired two different coaches during that time: David Shaw, after his program slipped from perennial conference-title contenders and his replacement, Troy Taylor, for allegations of a hostile workplace.

The school has hired Andrew Luck as its general manager for football, and he brought in his former pro coach -- Frank Reich of the Colts -- to serve as Stanford's interim head coach for the 2025 season.

As Canzano notes, attendance at Cardinal football games also is anemic. The Cardinal drew fewer than 24,000 fans for three of its home games in 2024 and has had just one sellout, its 2023 rivalry contest against Cal in the 'Big Game,' since 2022. That contest also marks the only time Stanford has drawn more than 40,000 for a home game.

Stanford opens its 2025 season in 16 days, playing a Week 0 game at Hawaii on Aug. 23. 

 

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8 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

Guess ACC money not enough for "TREE"...   what a joke

IMG_20250810_235802.jpg.1b242e8ea74df4ca7056c7585e6ea81f.jpg

Blaming the policies of President Donald Trump's administration, Stanford University is revealing plans to cut more than 350 full-time positions -- with nearly 10% of those jobs in the school's athletics department. 

Stanford earlier this summer announced as a school that it would pare some $140 million from its operating budget.

This week, the University revealed that a significant portion of those cuts would come in the form of layoffs to more than 360 employees.

Midday Thursday, veteran West Coast reporter John Canzano first reported that Stanford's cuts included approximately 30 Cardinal athletics department employees.

FootballScoop reached out directly to Stanford University's athletics communications and athletics director for comment but has not received response at this time.

Stanford just last week hired former Nike executive John Donahoe as its athletics director. The school has not disclosed Donahoe's salary nor terms of his contract, but he arrives at the school after making roughly $60 million in compensation from Nike in 2023-24 per multiple reports.

It's been just one year since Stanford formally joined the ACC for its conference home in NCAA athletics as the then-Pac-12 disintegrated. That move instantly incurred a marked increase in operating expenses for the Cardinal, which saw its football team in 2024 play road games at Syracuse, Clemson, Notre Dame and North Carolina State, among others. 

The school issued a general statement on the widespread cuts.

"Stanford is in the process of making budget reductions. Last week, many schools and units made staff workforce reductions," the statement read. "In total, 363 layoffs occurred."

Stanford athletics has still thrived overall in the NCAA landscape, placing third nationally in the most recent Learfield Director's Cup that measures total athletic department success.

But the Cardinal football program is just 10-26 in its last three seasons. The school has fired two different coaches during that time: David Shaw, after his program slipped from perennial conference-title contenders and his replacement, Troy Taylor, for allegations of a hostile workplace.

The school has hired Andrew Luck as its general manager for football, and he brought in his former pro coach -- Frank Reich of the Colts -- to serve as Stanford's interim head coach for the 2025 season.

As Canzano notes, attendance at Cardinal football games also is anemic. The Cardinal drew fewer than 24,000 fans for three of its home games in 2024 and has had just one sellout, its 2023 rivalry contest against Cal in the 'Big Game,' since 2022. That contest also marks the only time Stanford has drawn more than 40,000 for a home game.

Stanford opens its 2025 season in 16 days, playing a Week 0 game at Hawaii on Aug. 23. 

 

Poor Stanford, clearly struggling to make ends meet. I'm sure Donahoe and Luck are working pro-bono to reduce other staffing cuts.

Stanford is a $9.7 billion enterprise.

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In 2024–25, Stanford is a $9.7 billion enterprise. This figure represents the university’s consolidated budget for operations, a compilation of all annual operating and restricted budgets that support teaching, scholarship and research, including the budgets of all schools and administrative areas and the SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory. It does not include the $0.7 billion capital budget and excludes the budget for Stanford Health Care and Lucile Packard Children’s Hospital. Visit the Stanford Business Affairs website.

Stanford Has No Money per Stanford

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18 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Poor Stanford, clearly struggling to make ends meet. I'm sure Donahoe and Luck are working pro-bono to reduce other staffing cuts.

Stanford is a $9.7 billion enterprise.

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In 2024–25, Stanford is a $9.7 billion enterprise. This figure represents the university’s consolidated budget for operations, a compilation of all annual operating and restricted budgets that support teaching, scholarship and research, including the budgets of all schools and administrative areas and the SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory. It does not include the $0.7 billion capital budget and excludes the budget for Stanford Health Care and Lucile Packard Children’s Hospital. Visit the Stanford Business Affairs website.

Stanford Has No Money per Stanford

I doubt all of that STEM project money is fungible for anything else.

Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, notre dame joe said:

I doubt all of that STEM project money is fungible for anything else.

I absolutely agree but the bigger point is really any tie in from the $140m decrease in operating budget of $9.7m basically tieing it to the loss of 30 people in their athletics department (in addition to 330 others). Stanford fields 36 teams 20 in women's sport and 16 in men's. They just hired in AD that was making $60m at his last job, and Shaw was making about $6M per year so a safe guess is Troy $2-4m range. 

So lets do a comparison to Vanderbilt as they are on a similar plane on academics, atheletics success (Baseball good, football meh) budget and student enrollment. 

Stanford enrollment:

Est 17,000

Vandy Enrollement:

13575

Stanford + Stanford Health Operating Budget:

$10.4 billion

Vandy + VUMC Operating Budget:

$8.9 billion

Stanford Avergage Attendance Per Game 2024

26,035

Vandy Average Attendance Per Game 2024

28,091

Stanford Athletic teams:

36 Total

20 women, 16 mens

Vandy Athletics teams:

17 total

11 womens, 6 mens

For the record, VUMC is cutting $300m budget cut and laying of 650 which I personally actually find extremely concerning. Main point is Stanford isn't the only ones seeing big budget cuts. 

TLDR: Politics isn't the main reason 30 athletic jobs were cut at Stanford. 

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On 8/10/2025 at 10:47 AM, LTbear said:

I don't think Notre Dame will ever go B1G. I would bet the B1G's top (realistic) targets are UNC, UVA, and Florida State. I would think the SEC is similarly after UNC and UVA and assume they're also interested in FSU and Clemson.

They will have to eventually.  I just think they are in a good enough position, its not going to happen for at least 10-15 years.

Notre Dame also has a demographics problem.  The Irish and Catholics who love them are aging.  The subway alumni are dying off.  20 years from now they may not be nearly as valuable.

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5 minutes ago, bullet said:

They will have to eventually.  I just think they are in a good enough position, its not going to happen for at least 10-15 years.

Notre Dame also has a demographics problem.  The Irish and Catholics who love them are aging.  The subway alumni are dying off.  20 years from now they may not be nearly as valuable.

Every Domer grad thinks they hung the moon and invented football. I doubt they would lower themselves into joining a conference.

That said, if the BIG pulls the USC game, there will real panic in Domer Nation. The BIG has some leverage there, and that bitch made pussy Lincoln Riley doesn’t want to play the game. 

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7 minutes ago, bullet said:

They will have to eventually.  I just think they are in a good enough position, its not going to happen for at least 10-15 years.

Notre Dame also has a demographics problem.  The Irish and Catholics who love them are aging.  The subway alumni are dying off.  20 years from now they may not be nearly as valuable.

They’ll still be more valuable than Purdue.
 

It’s like running from a lion, you just have to be faster than the slowest guy…

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There's an easy way to make them join a conference AND standardize scheduling.

9 Conference games.  anything <9 equals a loss in the rankings. Period.

2 birds, one stone and all that jazz.

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27 minutes ago, bullet said:

They will have to eventually.  I just think they are in a good enough position, its not going to happen for at least 10-15 years.

Notre Dame also has a demographics problem.  The Irish and Catholics who love them are aging.  The subway alumni are dying off.  20 years from now they may not be nearly as valuable.

Their brand is way more than just Catholics 

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On 7/1/2025 at 3:18 PM, GJ Winne said:

The only people referring to the PAC as a Power 5 conference are online shit stirrers.  Gould hasn't mentioned it once. 

G6 confirmed

 

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On 8/10/2025 at 10:47 AM, LTbear said:

I don't think Notre Dame will ever go B1G. I would bet the B1G's top (realistic) targets are UNC, UVA, and Florida State. I would think the SEC is similarly after UNC and UVA and assume they're also interested in FSU and Clemson.

Why would SEC want Virginia? Shitty at football, decent at basketball, ok at baseball. 
Minimal TV. They are basically a Vanderbilt redux. 

Just don’t see what they get you with in terms of strengthening conference. 

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Brett McMurphy tweeted that the Maryland AD indicated the Big Ten would be at 20 schools in 2030. He indicated that UNC and Virginia were the tops choices for both conferences, and I also don't understand why anyone would want Virginia.

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2 hours ago, BrazilHorn said:

Why would SEC want Virginia? Shitty at football, decent at basketball, ok at baseball. 
Minimal TV. They are basically a Vanderbilt redux. 

Just don’t see what they get you with in terms of strengthening conference. 

McMurphy (see above) and several others with contacts in the SEC and B1G have continually reiterated that UNC and Virginia are the two schools that both conferences want. 

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7 minutes ago, LTbear said:

McMurphy (see above) and several others with contacts in the SEC and B1G have continually reiterated that UNC and Virginia are the two schools that both conferences want. 

Both will be better off in the SEC.

Let's see if UVA's academic snobs will consort with us. Add FSU and Clemson for a clean 20 and we're done.

* My preference is to stay at 16 with the new 9-game schedule where everybody plays home & homes every 4 years.

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31 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Huge conferences fucking suck. The only good thing about going to 20 is maybe we split into 10 someday. 

Yes I know it won't happen. 

Maybe when the superconferences split up, the new 10 team conferences could be geographically aligned

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remember when we tried to help aggy and take them west with us?

and how they behaved?

and recall that aggy are still a branch of The University as per the Constitution of the State of Texas....

nc and nc state are a very similar situation

rather than get sucked in to that drama, the sec should just take the fruit off the board: clemson, florida state, georgia tech and miami

georgia won't like it

florida really won't like it

if georgia tech won't play ball, offer tulane or smu or 'offer' missouri to the b1g to keep it even - missouri is a b1g school stuck in the sec by accident (see: aggy, corn, colorado)

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4 minutes ago, WBT said:

Maybe when the superconferences split up, the new 10 team conferences could be geographically aligned

64 teams 8 divisions 8 teams each

72 teams 8 divisions 9 teams each

80 teams 8 divisions 10 teams each

Texas will end up in the Southwest Division

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