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14 hours ago, DalTxHornFan said:

This thread does not inspire confidence in the City of Austin's ability to complete a multi-billion dollar transportation system.  They can't even get a miniature train to work in Zilker Park.  Read the whole thread for the play-by-play of this failed project.

 


that was phenomenal, thank you. 

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2 hours ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Nathan Bernier turned that Twitter thread into an article, just ridiculous how this whole thing has been over complicated and screwed up -- remember that the trains ran just fine over 60 years ago:

A black and white photo of the original Zilker Eagle minitrain. A man with a conductor's hat drives the locomotive. Three cars behind are filled with children and parents. The Texas State Capitol dome can be seen in the distance.

 

https://www.kut.org/austin/2023-01-24/what-happened-to-the-zilker-park-mini-train

Holy shit what an epic series of fuckups. Kinda sounds like they are basically back at square one, having already spent like $400k on a train that doesn't work.

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On 1/24/2023 at 5:07 PM, DalTxHornFan said:

This thread does not inspire confidence in the City of Austin's ability to complete a multi-billion dollar transportation system.  They can't even get a miniature train to work in Zilker Park.  Read the whole thread for the play-by-play of this failed project.

Total shit show. Only counterpoint is that the article makes it clear that nobody at any level understood the complexities of that project. They had absolutely zero experience in the area, had never been involved in planning, estimating costs, or operation. And it seems like there really aren’t many people in the country that do.
 

That’s quite a bit different than a full sized transportation system, which has been scoped and dissected over and over for decades, and there are hundreds of other cities/companies that can be used as guidance at each step of the way. 

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18 minutes ago, SquishMitten said:

Total shit show. Only counterpoint is that the article makes it clear that nobody at any level understood the complexities of that project. They had absolutely zero experience in the area, had never been involved in planning, estimating costs, or operation. And it seems like there really aren’t many people in the country that do.
 

That’s quite a bit different than a full sized transportation system, which has been scoped and dissected over and over for decades, and there are hundreds of other cities/companies that can be used as guidance at each step of the way. 

The Houston Ship Channel bridge, the Boston Big Dig, and the California Bullet Train all say "hold my beer!"

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I think the Big Dig still holds the record for the highest cost overruns (as a percentage of original cost) of any civil project in U.S. history.

I realize it was hard for the city to find experience operators to run a mini train, but for the fact that there are literally thousands of miniature trains around the country.  I can think of a half dozen in/around Chicago/Wisconsin Dells.  Every decent sized city in North America has 1 or 2 of those kiddie amusement parks and the vast majority all have little trains at them.  

Two projects in Austin that still crack me up were the central library being delayed 9 months because nobody could interpret the City's of Code regarding the sprinkler systems/fire detection.  Even though the city's code experts were a block away from the site the whole time.  And the Waller Creek tunnel rebar mistake.  The GC walking the tunnel basically thought, "if it's just to walk through, no need for expensive rebar."  Meanwhile, nobody told him they have't diverted the millions of gallons of water there through there yet.  Fucking priceless.  

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