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29 minutes ago, statsman said:

Ok, I recognized Spike Dykes. Is it bad that I don’t know who any of those other guys are in Iceman’s pictures?

 

Lots of players from the 90's and 2000's.  Just jogging people's memories before kickoff week.

31 up there, Y'all should know him.  Jonathon Gray's daddy, no like for real bio dad, James Gray.  He was a great RB in his own right.

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57 minutes ago, Iceman said:

The money has everything to do with it.  Same as it does in Austin, Athens, or Columbus.  Let's stop playing like the actual campus experience has a fucking thing to do with the other, because it doesn't.

Wanna know why UT fan is disliked?  Because some ( a shit ton) operate from the notion that they don't have to pay anyone.  Players just come there because it's so fucking perfect.  Only place in the world...even in the 70's...and it's a gotdam lie.


 

Why don't you read and understand the quote posted above from the $$ behind Tech recruiting.  He flat out acknowledges Tech has to play 25% + over "market" to get people to sign with them.  Because it's fucking Lubbock.  And it's fucking Tech.   Both complete shitholes

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53 minutes ago, Iceman said:

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38 minutes ago, statsman said:

Ok, I recognized Spike Dykes. Is it bad that I don’t know who any of those other guys are in Iceman’s pictures?

You don't recognize Kevin Hart and Will Ferrell?

32 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I didn't know Will Ferrell was on Sonny Dykes' staff.

Fuck you stole my joke.

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3 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Why don't you read and understand the quote posted above from the $$ behind Tech recruiting.  He flat out acknowledges Tech has to play 25% + over "market" to get people to sign with them.  Because it's fucking Lubbock.  And it's fucking Tech.   Both complete shitholes

I forgot to address the part about "UT fans being disliked", mainly bc most of us don't give a fuck if we're disliked by students and alums from lesser programs. I'm certainly not going to spend time on Viva the Matadors or Double T message boards pumping up Texas athletics' accomplishments. I'd have to eat even more shit than @Iceman does here.

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17 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

I forgot to address the part about "UT fans being disliked", mainly bc most of us don't give a fuck if we're disliked by students and alums from lesser programs. I'm certainly not going to spend time on Viva the Matadors or Double T message boards pumping up Texas athletics' accomplishments. I'd have to eat even more shit than @Iceman does here.

The Tech boards suck.  There wouldn't even be anyone to pick on you. :) 

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I worked for the team in the 90s under Mackovic and before the games we would get a copy of the opposing teams media guide.  The Tech media guide was catchy and had us saying it the rest of the season.  It still stuck with me 30 some odd years later 

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30 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Why don't you read and understand the quote posted above from the $$ behind Tech recruiting.  He flat out acknowledges Tech has to play 25% + over "market" to get people to sign with them.  Because it's fucking Lubbock.  And it's fucking Tech.   Both complete shitholes

I acknowledged that, if not specifically.  But yeah, Tech players are paid.  Tech is not a bad place to got to school, regardless of what you say.

The premium is because they don't have the program/ other talent/ NFL factory status of other schools.  We don't have the same discussions in basketball circles, do we?  No.

The funny piece in that aspect is how the big dogs keep yelping about said market.  If Tech sucks so bad, then why even acknowledge it?  Your great locale and program will give you a built in discount.

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1 hour ago, Iceman said:

There's even a previous, vacant Best Buy...and a bunch of old Town & Country Convenience stores( Now Stripes.)

As has been said multiple times, y'all keep playing this idiotic "Lubbock is in the stone age" card.  You never lived it.  It's a great fucking place to go to school.

 

None of us were saying that in the posts you’re responding to, you willfully oblivious fucktard. I was mocking the actual obvious, that your fucking coach is claiming that other schools are talking shit about Tech and Lubbock in ways that only that drunk’s low educated audience would believe. 

1 hour ago, Iceman said:

The money has everything to do with it.  Same as it does in Austin, Athens, or Columbus.  Let's stop playing like the actual campus experience has a fucking thing to do with the other, because it doesn't.

Wanna know why UT fan is disliked?  Because some ( a shit ton) operate from the notion that they don't have to pay anyone.  Players just come there because it's so fucking perfect.  Only place in the world...even in the 70's...and it's a gotdam lie.


 

Never mind that I’ve actually been involved in this shit and I know you’re patently incorrect about UT football paying players via the bag game, because I don’t need you to believe me. All anyone needs to do is look at what Texas is doing now versus being forced to watch the cheaters run off with the 5 stars in the OL and DL for over a decade and they’ll know “oh, yeah, Texas must have recently started paying players.” 

It’s pretty obvious and well known that Texas was sitting on its hands while the SEC and Ohio State raided the state once ATM opened the gates. I don’t really expect you to get that, slorch, because you’re equal parts blindly biased and room temperature IQ, but most folks will. 

1 hour ago, statsman said:

Ok, I recognized Spike Dykes. Is it bad that I don’t know who any of those other guys are in Iceman’s pictures?

I’ll have to take your word for it on Lubbock. Confession- I had my SATs sent to TT. I was going to be the first in my family to go to college and I wanted to study engineering. We had been living in Fort Benning, Georgia when Dad retired from the army and moved to Texas. I knew that in Georgia, if you wanted to study engineering, you went to Georgia Tech, so in Texas…

 I figured it out when TT sent me an informational booklet that, I kid you not, had the pages and cover actually cut in the shape of a cowboy boot!

There is a lot of truth to the saying, “Get your grades up or get your guns up!”

My oldest daughter, against my input, applied to Tech in the beginning of her application process. She had great grades and scores but was a worrier. I am not making this up - she got an acceptance response from Tech in less than 7 days from sending the app in. I assume anyone in the top 50% of their high school class that attends there must feel like a fucking genius from day one as they walk around and see morons bumping their heads against building walls as they wear their underwear on the outside of their shorts. 

42 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

As a realist, I'm sure UT was involved in the bag game at some level over the years. We just didn't have to pay out nearly as much as other, less desirable places. Based on photos and what I've heard, I'm sure Tech's campus is no longer a deal-breaker for y'all.

Just win, baby!

Don’t equivocate about the bag game and Texas. If Texas was participating, the hue and cry coming from the cheaters would be as loud as it is now about mean ol’Texas. 

Now, UT basketball? … sure. 

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6 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Why don't you read and understand the quote posted above from the $$ behind Tech recruiting.  He flat out acknowledges Tech has to play 25% + over "market" to get people to sign with them.  Because it's fucking Lubbock.  And it's fucking Tech.   Both complete shitholes

Ok but who cares? The answer is: not our donors.

Like, of fucking course we're going to have to pay more to get a top recruit, that's obvious. We don't have the history or brand recognition. That shit takes time and wins. Time is free, but how do you get the wins? You need to get players. How do you get players? You pay them. Everyone pays. If we have to pay a bit more then we'll do it because we have the money. It's a really simple calculus that any GM could make in his sleep, and given how many times much bigger brands have tried to poach Blanchard just in the last couple of years, it seems like he's doing something right.

Do you think it's an accident that Texas seems to be paying the most football NIL out of anyone? That's how Ohio State won a title, and Texas wants to do the same. It seems like a good idea to me.

If you really, actually want to win, you have to do all the things Tech has been doing. Invest in great facilities, pay your players, the only aspect that the jury's still out on is the coach. If he can't produce, we'll pay someone else, and I guarantee you we won't make the same mistakes aggy did. It's like I said earlier, we're very obviously trying to follow the Texas model because it's a good model, and of course there's going to be a lot of catch-up involved. You can't close a gap like that overnight, and hell maybe you can't close it period, but you can definitely get a lot closer.

Either way it'll be fun to watch it all play out.

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30 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Ok but who cares? The answer is: not our donors.

Like, of fucking course we're going to have to pay more to get a top recruit, that's obvious. We don't have the history or brand recognition. That shit takes time and wins. Time is free, but how do you get the wins? You need to get players. How do you get players? You pay them. Everyone pays. If we have to pay a bit more then we'll do it because we have the money. It's a really simple calculus that any GM could make in his sleep, and given how many times much bigger brands have tried to poach Blanchard just in the last couple of years, it seems like he's doing something right.

Do you think it's an accident that Texas seems to be paying the most football NIL out of anyone? That's how Ohio State won a title, and Texas wants to do the same. It seems like a good idea to me.

If you really, actually want to win, you have to do all the things Tech has been doing. Invest in great facilities, pay your players, the only aspect that the jury's still out on is the coach. If he can't produce, we'll pay someone else, and I guarantee you we won't make the same mistakes aggy did. It's like I said earlier, we're very obviously trying to follow the Texas model because it's a good model, and of course there's going to be a lot of catch-up involved. You can't close a gap like that overnight, and hell maybe you can't close it period, but you can definitely get a lot closer.

Either way it'll be fun to watch it all play out.

I am sorry, but I’m going to have to say out loud what all of us are thinking- if there is one thing that we know about winning football at Tech, it’s that Texas Tech does not know one goddamned thing about winning football. 
 
If Tech did, then at least once in the last 100 years it would have had a great team. It is remarkable that in a state where small fucked up private schools find their way to major bowl games, Tech hasn’t been to one since a four way tie in ‘94 allowed it to get soanked by a shitty Trojan team. 
 
Rice has a better football history than Tech. 
 
Tech’s floor and ceiling is like that crazy room in “Being John Malkovich”. 
 
But, that’s fine. Carry on with explaining to us how Tech is going about building a winning program. I’m sure y’all have it all figured out. 

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