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2 minutes ago, F250 said:

Well, if the ignore feature and banning isn't enough.

Then the only option would be to create a dedicated subforum for Derka and make him a mod to grant and revoke access to users to his subforum.

Nah, I think if mods get involved (as he did with blacklab), that's the best way to go about this.  Never thought I'd say it, but Derka was trying to go about this in the right way and imma shit all over him.

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9 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Nah, I think if mods get involved (as he did with blacklab), that's the best way to go about this.  Never thought I'd say it, but Derka was trying to go about this in the right way and imma shit all over him.

If you don't think a permanent ban will work then a mods involvement won't make a difference.

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Just now, F250 said:

If you don't think a permanent ban will work then a mods involvement won't make a difference.

I think mods have to be involved for a permanent ban to work.  Otherwise the person just keeps coming back.  

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Just now, Chewbacca said:

Nah, I think if mods get involved (as he did with blacklab), that's the best way to go about this.  Never thought I'd say it, but Derka was trying to go about this in the right way and imma shit all over him.

That's not what happened, he has actually said what happened several times and I've confirmed it.

I told him to ignore motown or I'd do it for him (which btw has been done and he didn't even notice because he doesn't actually care - which is the part that none of you seem to understand and continuing to give him the benefit of the doubt is not only stupid, but it's the reason we are all having to even deal with any of this bullshit)

He went on a pretty significant unhinged rant and personally attacked me. 

I ignored that and told him he can comply or he can move on from the community in very clear terms.

He told me to go fuck myself, which in my very clear terms is like yelling "IM BANNING MYSELF"

Just now, Chewbacca said:

I think mods have to be involved for a permanent ban to work.  Otherwise the person just keeps coming back.  

This is correct. See AnimalTabacco and Immortal13 and a few others. 

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3 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

I think mods have to be involved for a permanent ban to work.  Otherwise the person just keeps coming back.  

blacklab has maintained IP perma bans can be tough since it could ban other users who share the same IP. Also, VPN makes IP bannings worthless. Now, the alternative is you ban someone who's antagonizing Derka, they create a new account, and then if it keeps up under the name username, it's a lot easier to crowdsource that person. 

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Derka no longer being a part of the community on Monday is happening. There is no lobbying or discussion currently open for that. 

I opened the floor to discuss options for people truly harassing or bullying on the board. I've stepped in numerous times to de-escalate or tell people to leave a thread or get a ban. I honestly don't care about any of your opinions at this point regarding this situation because it's resolved. If you want to talk basketball with Derka figure it out by Monday. 

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7 minutes ago, mdmost said:

VPN makes IP bannings worthless

The only people who use VPNs are people with legitimate professional reasons to protect their internet traffic. What kind of a person would get a VPN just to access websites that have been made unavailable to them?

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2 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

The only people who use VPNs are people with legitimate professional reasons to protect their internet traffic. What kind of a person would get a VPN just to access websites that have been made unavailable to them?

People who want to access Pornhub in Texas. Pretty sure blacklab said a person who was permabanned did exactly that when they returned.

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21 minutes ago, immamac said:

That's not what happened, he has actually said what happened several times and I've confirmed it.

I told him to ignore motown or I'd do it for him (which btw has been done and he didn't even notice because he doesn't actually care - which is the part that none of you seem to understand and continuing to give him the benefit of the doubt is not only stupid, but it's the reason we are all having to even deal with any of this bullshit)

He went on a pretty significant unhinged rant and personally attacked me. 

I ignored that and told him he can comply or he can move on from the community in very clear terms.

He told me to go fuck myself, which in my very clear terms is like yelling "IM BANNING MYSELF"

Boy, you sure pulled one over on the (self admitted) mentally ill guy who has a really hard time letting things go.  You should pat yourself on the back for that one.

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13 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

The only people who use VPNs are people with legitimate professional reasons to protect their internet traffic. What kind of a person would get a VPN just to access websites that have been made unavailable to them?

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39 minutes ago, immamac said:

That's not what happened, he has actually said what happened several times and I've confirmed it.

I told him to ignore motown or I'd do it for him (which btw has been done and he didn't even notice because he doesn't actually care - which is the part that none of you seem to understand and continuing to give him the benefit of the doubt is not only stupid, but it's the reason we are all having to even deal with any of this bullshit)

He went on a pretty significant unhinged rant and personally attacked me. 

I ignored that and told him he can comply or he can move on from the community in very clear terms.

He told me to go fuck myself, which in my very clear terms is like yelling "IM BANNING MYSELF"

This is correct. See AnimalTabacco and Immortal13 and a few others. 

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20 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Boy, you sure pulled one over on the (self admitted) mentally ill guy who has a really hard time letting things go.  You should pat yourself on the back for that one.

You have a wildly different account of what has actually transpired than I do. I don’t understand how this guy continues to garner sympathy. 

I also don’t understand why @immamac is going through this weekend whistle stop tour showing Derka’s dead bloated body. Just ban him now. Otherwise you’re opening yourself for a weekend of grief. 

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I think the personal attacks on imma were and are a problem. I’ll emphatically agree with that. I do think those attacks and starting this thread warranted a month off but not permanent. A top 1% contributor was banned that’s crazy to me. Not my house, not my rules. But I guess we’re done here. 

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51 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Now, the alternative is you ban someone who's antagonizing Derka, they create a new account, and then if it keeps up under the name username, it's a lot easier to crowdsource that person. 

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2 hours ago, immamac said:

Who else has a problem where they want someone else permabanned because of chronic and habitual bullying? I'll hang up and listen and make some rules around it if it's an actual problem.

I'm not trying to be obtuse, but I think I'm very direct and clear with people when things get to a point where they need to choose to move on and stay or move on and leave. 

Hi yes I’d like at accuse futureman of being my bully. Pls ban thx. 

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53 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

The only people who use VPNs are people with legitimate professional reasons to protect their internet traffic. What kind of a person would get a VPN just to access websites that have been made unavailable to them?

Lol wut. Errrrrrybody uses vpns. I've downloaded a couple free ones just to use pornhub a couple times. 

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3 hours ago, immamac said:

Who else has a problem where they want someone else permabanned because of chronic and habitual bullying? I'll hang up and listen and make some rules around it if it's an actual problem.

I'm not trying to be obtuse, but I think I'm very direct and clear with people when things get to a point where they need to choose to move on and stay or move on and leave. 

List the posters with (diagnosed) mental illness. Then we can look at who is picking on them and act accordingly. Of course it’s easier to get rid of someone with mental health issues than deal with dickheads who like to repeatedly bully that person. You missed your calling as a 7th grade teacher

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20 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

the long and short of it is that bob has personally banned motownhorn three times in the last few weeks for coming after me. bob explicitly told motown that if he posted about me anymore he would be banned, and motown wouldn’t stop, so he kept getting banned. this was last wednesday:

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that’s a text between me and bob. bob and i have been going out to eat, including dinners with my mom, to help out with the dynamic between me and shaggy. 

bob banned motownhorn for a month last wednesday and said that if he posted about me again he would be IP banned. immamac then lifted that ban without talking to bob, and tonight motown again came after me unprovoked, so i texted bob, expecting him to follow through. 

instead, i just got a PM from immamac telling ME to ignore motown or be permabanmed. 

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fuck everything about this. i have gone so above and beyond to do my part to be a contributing member here, and immamac just doesn’t give a fuck. bob and i have been meeting and texting and working on all of this, we have made deals, deals where I have held up my end of the bargain, but immamac gives no fucks about any of this. it’s his site, so fuck bob, fuck me, fuck my mom, fuck everything we’ve been doing, immamac is lifting motown’s ban and permbanning me instead. that’s surly for you.

fuck immamac.

aggy fucking cunt.

I’d complain. 

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No one has given any examples or even actually tried to say there is a legitimate issue with bullying. This site doesn’t foster bullies and Derka not posting here has to do with non compliance and being actually openly adversarial to me and the instructions and rules of the community. He is choosing not to participate after he’s been given a chance no one in the history of any of the iterations of the site has been given.  

 

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5 hours ago, troph said:

get out of here.

Yeah that was uncalled for. I tire of the repetitive behavior but you never know when you say something that really hurts someone and he is one that could be hurt, so for what it’s worth I’m sorry @shadow_operative, and I hope you realize this site isn’t real life and to just relax in general. I’ve had to take years off before because I am sensitive too. 

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Just now, immamac said:

No one has given any examples or even actually tried to say there is a legitimate issue with bullying. This site doesn’t foster bullies and Derka not posting here has to do with non compliance and being actually openly adversarial to me and the instructions and rules of the community. He is choosing not to participate after he’s been given a chance no one in the history of any of the iterations of the site has been given.  

 


give me a fucking break. Everyone on this website who spends any time on the football or basketball boards knows who the usual suspects are with respect to bullying Derka. You don’t need any fucking examples. You don’t want to acknowledge what is going on, and that’s fine it’s your website and of course it’s easier to get rid of him than deal with the assholes. More power to you and go fuck yourself

 

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12 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

List the posters with (diagnosed) mental illness. Then we can look at who is picking on them and act accordingly. Of course it’s easier to get rid of someone with mental health issues than deal with dickheads who like to repeatedly bully that person. You missed your calling as a 7th grade teacher

I’ve got some mild stuff. But it does not define me so I’ve never addressed it here. I won’t shy away from it. I think there’s only 2 posters here that know me in real life and they are probably clueless about it. 

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Just now, Sawbonz said:


give me a fucking break. Everyone on this website who spends any time on the football or basketball boards knows who the usual suspects are with respect to bullying Derka. You don’t need any fucking examples. You don’t want to acknowledge what is going on, and that’s fine it’s your website and of course it’s easier to get rid of him than deal with the assholes. More power to you and go fuck yourself

 

You can leave too. 

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3 minutes ago, immamac said:

No one has given any examples or even actually tried to say there is a legitimate issue with bullying. This site doesn’t foster bullies and Derka not posting here has to do with non compliance and being actually openly adversarial to me and the instructions and rules of the community. He is choosing not to participate after he’s been given a chance no one in the history of any of the iterations of the site has been given.  

 

Bullying? Meh. It’s the internet. I don’t see it as bullying, but some on the board, as evidenced by posts on this thread, think it exists.

You’re being conveniently pedantic if you don’t see other posters deliberately fucking with Derka.  On one hand, yeah, he should ignore the motherfuckers, but you pulling the Sgt Shultz routine is horseshit. 

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Just now, immamac said:

You can leave too. 

Are you going ban me for pointing out you’re an asshole? Go for it. I left for about six months due to the general assholish behavior which tends to bring out the worst in me. This thread is reinforcing that that was probably a good idea.

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8 minutes ago, immamac said:

No one has given any examples or even actually tried to say there is a legitimate issue with bullying. This site doesn’t foster bullies and Derka not posting here has to do with non compliance and being actually openly adversarial to me and the instructions and rules of the community. He is choosing not to participate after he’s been given a chance no one in the history of any of the iterations of the site has been given.  

 

Anyone who has been around here or shaggy long enough has seen Derka get bullied.  That's a cop out.

9 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:


That’s not my point. But you do you

imma is completely missing the plot here.

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1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

Are you going ban me for pointing out you’re an asshole? Go for it. I left for about six months due to the general assholish behavior which tends to bring out the worst in me. This thread is reinforcing that that was probably a good idea.

Never said that. Don’t have a history of banning people and have a history of fostering open discussion. It’s why this thread continues to exist. 

1 minute ago, Chewbacca said:

Anyone who has been around here or shaggy long enough has seen Derka get bullied.  That's a cop out.

imma is completely missing the plot here.

There is no plot here. Derka was banned a long time ago. He should have never been allowed back. 

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2 minutes ago, immamac said:

There is no plot here. Derka was banned a long time ago. He should have never been allowed back. 

Like I said, you're missing the plot, dude.  Let me know if you need me to explain it to you.

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Derka gets bullied because he’s bombastic, combative and verbose as fuck. But more than this, he ALLOWS himself to be bullied. 

Most of us have detractors. Some of my criticism is well deserved. I simply do not acknowdge old criticism about my dipping on a plane, which was fucking stupid. 

Ignore feature is limited but DOES work. He was given a perfectly suitable option to remain and he chose to go on a rant instead. Blacklab and Imma seem to be unified on the ultimate outcome.  He's incessant drama and potential future liability. I don’t get the angst over imma’s purported lack of compassion. I’m not seeing it. 

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21 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Derka gets bullied because he’s bombastic, combative and verbose as fuck. But more than this, he ALLOWS himself to be bullied. 

 

Fuck anyone who thinks this is an excuse to bully. Fuck them straight to hell.

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56 minutes ago, immamac said:

No one has given any examples or even actually tried to say there is a legitimate issue with bullying. This site doesn’t foster bullies and Derka not posting here has to do with non compliance and being actually openly adversarial to me and the instructions and rules of the community. He is choosing not to participate after he’s been given a chance no one in the history of any of the iterations of the site has been given.  

 

Your second and third sentences are correct, and I support you.

The first sentence is complete and utter bullshit, and you need your head examined. There are things you can do to make the site better. We've covered them already.

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55 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

No one has given any examples or even actually tried to say there is a legitimate issue with bullying.

Go and try to voice a conservative viewpoint in Cloak Room

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2 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

Your second and third sentences are correct, and I support you.

The first sentence is complete and utter bullshit, and you need your head examined. There are things you can do to make the site better. We've covered them already.

The quote posts showing up for ignored users I can look into, but since there isn’t an actual hard reference in the database and it shows up as a text object by itself (also why it doesn’t inherit edits or deletions) it makes it nearly impossible to do in a feasible way. 

im all for making the site better. 

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