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18 hours ago, jdhorn92 said:

Did we have replay back then?  Sure looks in to me

 

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Yes, replay was available back then, but it had to be initiated by the refs in the booth who were affiliated with the home team's conference during the regular season games. 

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1 minute ago, Nivek said:

Yes, replay was available back then, but it had to be initiated by the refs in the booth who were affiliated with the home team's conference during the regular season games. 

I can't believe that 1) replay is at least a decade old by this point, and 2) it's not working better by now

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3 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Yes, replay was available back then, but it had to be initiated by the refs in the booth who were affiliated with the home team's conference during the regular season games. 

Hence why they reviewed the Swede catch but not the Melton TD.  

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4 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Yes, replay was available back then, but it had to be initiated by the refs in the booth who were affiliated with the home team's conference during the regular season games. 

 

1 minute ago, alincoln said:

Hence why they reviewed the Swede catch but not the Melton TD.  

Texas benefitted greatly from poor replay review in its adolescence during the 2005 season. I can't really complain about the Melton non-TD on the opposite side of the ledger from VY's knee and Charles' non-fumble in the national title game. 

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4 minutes ago, Blackcat00 said:

Matt Patricia is ass, its funny they put so much stock in to him. 

It’s starting to smell like “Shawn Watson” and Texas fans and insiders rationalizing that fire. Ass is ass

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2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

It’s starting to smell like “Shawn Watson” and Texas fans and insiders rationalizing that fire. Ass is ass

Most OSU message-board fans I've seen are not super excited about Patricia and expect some pains in the early going.  He was not a popular hire (especially compared to Knowles, who was somewhat of a slam dunk).  Scuttlebutt from fall camp is that things have been going well with him so far, but there's really nothing else to say about it until we see something on the field to judge him by.

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11 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 

Texas benefitted greatly from poor replay review in its adolescence during the 2005 season. I can't really complain about the Melton non-TD on the opposite side of the ledger from VY's knee and Charles' non-fumble in the national title game. 

I always thought the VY knee being reviewed would have benefitted Texas.  IIRC, Mack had the team hurry up and Texas missed the kick as a result.   

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2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

It’s starting to smell like “Shawn Watson” and Texas fans and insiders rationalizing that fire. Ass is ass

I know this is pathetic, but one of the most entertaining periods as a poster on the longhorn boards for me spanned from the hiring of Charlie Strong to the aftermath of the first Notre Dame game in year 2.

I was miserable as a fan of the program, but being on the boards was somewhat therapeutic because there were posters everywhere showing their true colors as absolute imbeciles. Beyond some sort of idiotic personal need for Charlie Strong to actually be worth a fuck, and tied to that, was the constant rationalizing of Shawn Watson as a legitimate choice and employee in the role of Offensive Coordinator.

It was cheap entertainment, but I'm not a snob. Lampooning people pitching for the guy "after watching film on YouTube" before the 2014 season all the way through "Watson has completely overhauled the offense!" heading into the 2015 season was the only happiness I could find as a fan at that time.

Jeff Howe wrote a series of articles on 247 that 2015 summer with insider quotes and his own analysis about how the offense was being changed. I would show up on the thread for each article with one or two sentences mocking his takes and a mass of $9.95er lemmings would climb over themselves to attack me and defend Howe and Watson. Pulling all of that up after the 38-3 wonderment in South Bend was one of the most gleeful and villainous moments of my posting experience. 

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I like how they point out that we are replacing all of our OL and make no mention that they are basically doing the same, but with a new OC who has never called plays before. Patricia is ass, and has been riding Bill's dick for his entire career. The simple fact is that this Texas team is better than tOSU at almost every position group. Maybe give tOSU the advantage at WR and call safety a wash since they have Caleb Downs. Our defensive staff has shown that they can force teams to be one dimensional. I expect us the scheme away the buckeye's run game and put the entire game on Sayin's back. Good luck if we get into a game where Simmons and Burke can simply pin their ears back and rush the QB. This game feels like a 17-10 UT game in the 1st half with Texas pulling away late due to a turnover of some sort. I said 24-16 UT in the prediciton thread, but as we get closer it feels more like 31-17 type game.

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1 minute ago, FloridaHorn said:

I like how they point out that we are replacing all of our OL and make no mention that they are basically doing the same, but with a new OC who has never called plays before. Patricia is ass, and has been riding Bill's dick for his entire career. The simple fact is that this Texas team is better than tOSU at almost every position group. Maybe give tOSU the advantage at WR and call safety a wash since they have Caleb Downs. Our defensive staff has shown that they can force teams to be one dimensional. I expect us the scheme away the buckeye's run game and put the entire game on Sayin's back. Good luck if we get into a game where Simmons and Burke can simply pin their ears back and rush the QB. This game feels like a 17-10 UT game in the 1st half with Texas pulling away late due to a turnover of some sort. I said 24-16 UT in the prediciton thread, but as we get closer it feels more like 31-17 type game.

For OSU, 4/5 OL positions are returning starters.  Talent/experience-wise, I would take OSU at OL, WR (easily), TE, defensive secondary.  Perhaps at RB depending on TX health status.  I think talent and experience are more or less a wash overall between the two teams.  As stated in my initial post, I'd give TX with a slight advantage at QB because of Manning's game experience, and a bigger advantage on the sideline because OSU is breaking in new coordinators.  If forced to predict I'd say TX wins 28-24 but one play could break the game in either direction.

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5 minutes ago, Nivek said:

I always thought the VY knee being reviewed would have benefitted Texas.  IIRC, Mack had the team hurry up and Texas missed the kick as a result.   

Also they weren't stopping VY from first and goal, which is what it would have been.  And had we had to run 1-3 plays to score, USC never has the time to drive the field for a field goal before half.

At best for USC it's Texas kicking a FG to end the half.  So subtracting the field goal they were able to get it's net Texas 6 points, which is what we got after we rushed the XP.  At worst, we score a TD in the next few plays and they don't get a FG.  So it is Texas plus 9.

Whatever, what happened that night ended up awesome.

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Someone post the PFF grades and number of starts.
Again, they are huffing the shit out of the copium regarding the OL disparities.  And acting like their DL/LBs are even in comparison to ours. 

Read some Eleven Warriors on my flight yesterday and they are as confident about this game as they were the Shoe at Night! in 2005.

Not a single thought that Patricia was the babysitter for Belichick’s D and that showed when he was in Detroit and Philly.
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1 hour ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

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Holy shit. First, a completely baseless "arch will tap out." And a legit LOL at "He's a former NFL DC, he can confuse an NFL QB." Can he? Is that why he keeps losing jobs? Because if you were good at it, I didn't think you lost jobs. All the while ignoring the whole repeatedly dubunked concept that NFL coordinator success equates to college success, at like any level. 

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Some freshman class talk on Bucknuts, plus some hilarity where they attempt to claim that they're doing things above board, but Texas, Notre Dame, and Michigan are all behaving unfairly with NIL and recruiting. I actually think these people are stupid enough and naive enough to believe that they're actually clean when they've been cheating since the day Urban Meyer showed up on campus. Dumb motherfuckers, all of them. 

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    ** As advertised ... The Buckeyes’ 2025 recruiting class was ranked as the No. 4 class in the country in the final 247Sports Composite team recruiting rankings. 

    And according to one of our team sources who has seen the 2025 signees in action during the Buckeyes’ fall camp, this class is the real deal.


    “This freshman class is going to make a big splash," the source began.  “Devin Sanchez, Faheem Delane, Bo Jackson, Riley Pettijohn, maybe Zion Grady, I think you’ll see those guys this season.  And there are some other guys that are going to make a big splash eventually, but maybe not this season because their room is so strong right now.  This class is really, really good.”

    Only 96 hours to go!

     

    ** ‘Contradiction Hall of Fame’ … One of our sources must have been bored yesterday because he tuned into the Bucknuts Morning 5 .. and even claims he listened to the entire show. No, seriously.

    “I listened to your podcast yesterday and I agree with you and Dan mostly on the NIL stuff and not getting into bidding wars for high school recruits,” the source said. “Spending money on retaining your best players and paying for proven good players via the portal is a wise course of action. There is no disputing that in my opinion.

    “However, why can’t we do both? Not to the degree that some programs are doing, but more along the lines of what Oregon and Texas are doing. Dare I say, even Michigan. It’s like we’re trying to play by the rules when no one else is. If the Michigan cheating scandal didn’t prove the NCAA has no power to do anything of import, nothing will. These guys literally said in their report that what Michigan did deserved a postseason ban. Then that same report declined to issue a postseason ban. Put that one in the Contradiction Hall of Fame. First ballot. Unanimous.

    “Anyway, if it’s our stance that we’re not going to get into bidding wars for recruits, period, no matter what the NCAA is doing? I’m OK with that. But if we kind of have one foot in and one foot out because we’re fearful of the NCAA punishing us down the line, that would be malpractice. First of all, are they going to punish everyone? Because everyone seems to be doing it. Secondly, and most important, they have proven they have no power with the inexplicable Michigan decision like I said.” 

 

I like the part where his concept of "playing against the rules" is acquiring kids from HS and The Portal. Like Texas and Oregon. Exactly which rules aren't we following, recruiting both HS and the portal?

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3 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

I think Sayin is being VASTLY overrated for this game.  Colt McCoy could only muster 7 points against Ohio State in 2006 and he ended up being an all time great.

Did any rookie QB do that well against our D last year? I know we played against a few due to injuries. Maybe the kid from Kentucky did okay I guess. And the ASU QB, but there was a lot of weirdness in that game 

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3 minutes ago, Borrominion said:

For OSU, 4/5 OL positions are returning starters.  Talent/experience-wise, I would take OSU at OL, WR (easily), TE, defensive secondary.  Perhaps at RB depending on TX health status.  I think talent and experience are more or less a wash overall between the two teams.  As stated in my initial post, I'd give TX with a slight advantage at QB because of Manning's game experience, and a bigger advantage on the sideline because OSU is breaking in new coordinators.  If forced to predict I'd say TX wins 28-24 but one play could break the game in either direction.

I am stealing this from IT, but it pretty strongly refutes your argument.  Here is link.  https://www.on3.com/teams/texas-longhorns/news/whose-offensive-line-is-more-experienced-texas-or-ohio-states/

Ohio State has two projected starter with three years at their school. Texas has three players that can say they they have been in the meeting room and on the practice field with Kyle Flood. Texas has 12 combined years of listening to Steve Sarkisian in team meetings, offseasons being built up by Torre Becton. Ohio State has 10 combined seasons in Columbus. Consistency has to matter.

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However it isn’t just the consistency. Something often lost in the counting OL experience shuffle is that Cole Hutson has 1,314 career snaps and 13 starts from the 2022 season. When counting both offensive lines, he comes in just shy of the second most experienced OL in the upcoming game.

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Texas not only has the edge on years in the system, they hold an edge in career snaps among the projected starters. Texas has 3,670 snaps to Ohio State’s 3,312 total career snaps. When counting total starts, Ohio State gains a slight edge with their 49 starts over Texas’ 45, but again it is far from the lopsided nature that has been sold by some.

Granted there is something to be said about the accuracy of the grades from PFF, and the small sample size for the Longhorns. But the PFF grades come in with a strong Texas lean. Only one Longhorn in 2025 registered a grade lower than 62.5, the best from a projected starter grade for Ohio State.

The gap between the two teams experience is much smaller than advertised, and might even be flipped as to who is the most experienced. Both offensive lines will have their hands literally full of the best defenders each team may likely face in 2025.

 

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5 minutes ago, Borrominion said:

For OSU, 4/5 OL positions are returning starters.  Talent/experience-wise, I would take OSU at OL, WR (easily), TE, defensive secondary.  Perhaps at RB depending on TX health status.  I think talent and experience are more or less a wash overall between the two teams.  As stated in my initial post, I'd give TX with a slight advantage at QB because of Manning's game experience, and a bigger advantage on the sideline because OSU is breaking in new coordinators.  If forced to predict I'd say TX wins 28-24 but one play could break the game in either direction.

I think secondary is bit closer than people believe. Igbinoson (Sp? ) led the nation in penalties. His game is reliant on the officials, if they call holds he is useless. Ransom, Hancock, and Burke wen to the NFL. I am not sure the basis for putting the OSU secondary over the Texas secondary. Both have question marks. 

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2 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

I am stealing this from IT, but it pretty strongly refutes your argument.  Here is link.  https://www.on3.com/teams/texas-longhorns/news/whose-offensive-line-is-more-experienced-texas-or-ohio-states/

Ohio State has two projected starter with three years at their school. Texas has three players that can say they they have been in the meeting room and on the practice field with Kyle Flood. Texas has 12 combined years of listening to Steve Sarkisian in team meetings, offseasons being built up by Torre Becton. Ohio State has 10 combined seasons in Columbus. Consistency has to matter.

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However it isn’t just the consistency. Something often lost in the counting OL experience shuffle is that Cole Hutson has 1,314 career snaps and 13 starts from the 2022 season. When counting both offensive lines, he comes in just shy of the second most experienced OL in the upcoming game.

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Texas not only has the edge on years in the system, they hold an edge in career snaps among the projected starters. Texas has 3,670 snaps to Ohio State’s 3,312 total career snaps. When counting total starts, Ohio State gains a slight edge with their 49 starts over Texas’ 45, but again it is far from the lopsided nature that has been sold by some.

Granted there is something to be said about the accuracy of the grades from PFF, and the small sample size for the Longhorns. But the PFF grades come in with a strong Texas lean. Only one Longhorn in 2025 registered a grade lower than 62.5, the best from a projected starter grade for Ohio State.

The gap between the two teams experience is much smaller than advertised, and might even be flipped as to who is the most experienced. Both offensive lines will have their hands literally full of the best defenders each team may likely face in 2025.

 

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I know TX certainly has talented players and might do just fine at OL - I'm just responding to the poster who seemed to think the OSU line was completely revamped.  The only loss from the CFP line was Jackson - which was a big one of course, but the other returnees all showed out well last year.  I think the bigger issue for OSU is replacing both the OC and the OL position coach - that has potential to really screw things up for a while.  I think OL coach Frye did an incredible job last season....and apparently the NFL thought so too.

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11 minutes ago, Borrominion said:

For OSU, 4/5 OL positions are returning starters.  Talent/experience-wise, I would take OSU at OL, WR (easily), TE, defensive secondary.  Perhaps at RB depending on TX health status.  I think talent and experience are more or less a wash overall between the two teams.  As stated in my initial post, I'd give TX with a slight advantage at QB because of Manning's game experience, and a bigger advantage on the sideline because OSU is breaking in new coordinators.  If forced to predict I'd say TX wins 28-24 but one play could break the game in either direction.

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7 minutes ago, Js1 said:

You can stop trying to sell it bc we ain’t buying it. 

He basically retyped my post and change the score in the prediction. To call guys returning starters who have started 2 games is a joke. Is Arch the returning starter at QB? As recently as late last week there were reports that tOSU was shuffling players around on the OL and benched their projected starter at LT...I don't see how anyone, even a buckeye fan, can spin that is a positive way.

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2 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

WR is not close.  Maybe Wingo narrows the gap.  But Ohio State is special at WR.

Yep, I concede them WR, easily 

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1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

You're not going to gaslight a board of fanatics who have studied your team for 9 months and actively monitored your forums and read all of your insider updates as if they were our own. 

-You do not have 4 returning OL starters. Starting a few games in the playoffs or post-injury is not what classifies a player as a returning starter. If that were the case, Texas also has 4 returning OL starters because Hutson has started like 14 games in his career, Goosby started 2-3 late last year and Robertson started a game or two back in 2022 or 2023. 

-TE is debatable. You guys love your guys and Klare is a stud. Texas loves Endries and its other guys as well. Both programs have highly ranked guys in the TE room and both starters put up great numbers for mediocre to shitty teams last year. You guys seem to want to clearly demarcate an advantage there and it's bullshit.

-Downs =/= an entire secondary. You don't even know who is actually going to start at the other safety spot yet. Igbinonigniminious is a penalty machine. He was burnt more than bad toast last season and forced into PI and holding penalties against anyone of value. The other CB position will feature a new guy. Texas also returns an AA at Safety. Texas also returns two other starters at Safety/NB and a better returning starter at CB in Muhammad than what OSU has in Igbo. Texas is in the same position of putting a new, highly recruited starter at CB, whoever wins the job. 

-Texas evaluated Peoples and passed. We were fine as recruitniks watching you guys take him out of state. Donaldson has taken more bullets than a gun range dummy and Bo Jackson is actively in the process of passing him on the depth chart. Texas has 5 guys it can rotate at RB, one of whom is a returning 1,000 yard rusher and two others who were classified as the highest rated RB in the country coming out of high school. So, no, Ohio State doesn't have some sort of RB advantage. 

-You and everyone else talking about Manning being advantaged over Sayin simply because he's taken more snaps are whistling past the notion that Manning might also just be a lot fucking better than your 5'11' statue with a nice hairdo. 

-None of this matters as much as the disadvantage your OL will actually have on the field against the Texas front 7. That imbalance doesn't shake out in the other direction. Good luck keeping your QB upright on Saturday. 

I'm not trying to gaslight anybody - it's just, like, my opinion, man.  The biggest thing I'm getting out of this now is that we've entered into a QB hairdo debate.  Everything else we'll just have to see on the field.

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43 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Texas benefitted greatly from poor replay review in its adolescence during the 2005 season. I can't really complain about the Melton non-TD on the opposite side of the ledger from VY's knee and Charles' non-fumble in the national title game. 

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5 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

You're not going to gaslight a board of fanatics who have studied your team for 9 months and actively monitored your forums and read all of your insider updates as if they were our own. 

-You do not have 4 returning OL starters. Starting a few games in the playoffs or post-injury is not what classifies a player as a returning starter. If that were the case, Texas also has 4 returning OL starters because Hutson has started like 14 games in his career, Goosby started 2-3 late last year and Robertson started a game or two back in 2022 or 2023. 

-TE is debatable. You guys love your guys and Klare is a stud. Texas loves Endries and its other guys as well. Both programs have highly ranked guys in the TE room and both starters put up great numbers for mediocre to shitty teams last year. You guys seem to want to clearly demarcate an advantage there and it's bullshit.

-Downs =/= an entire secondary. You don't even know who is actually going to start at the other safety spot yet. Igbinonigniminious is a penalty machine. He was burnt more than bad toast last season and forced into PI and holding penalties against anyone of value. The other CB position will feature a new guy. Texas also returns an AA at Safety. Texas also returns two other starters at Safety/NB and a better returning starter at CB in Muhammad than what OSU has in Igbo. Texas is in the same position of putting a new, highly recruited starter at CB, whoever wins the job. 

-Texas evaluated Peoples and passed. We were fine as recruitniks watching you guys take him out of state. Donaldson has taken more bullets than a gun range dummy and Bo Jackson is actively in the process of passing him on the depth chart. Texas has 5 guys it can rotate at RB, one of whom is a returning 1,000 yard rusher and two others who were classified as the highest rated RB in the country coming out of high school. So, no, Ohio State doesn't have some sort of RB advantage. 

-You and everyone else talking about Manning being advantaged over Sayin simply because he's taken more snaps are whistling past the notion that Manning might also just be a lot fucking better than your 5'11' statue with a nice hairdo. 

-None of this matters as much as the disadvantage your OL will actually have on the field against the Texas front 7. That imbalance doesn't shake out in the other direction. Good luck keeping your QB upright on Saturday. 

Man, if we god forbid don’t win, your posts are gonna age like milk, as bad as mine did running up to the election. We might be shunned from surly together 🤣

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17 hours ago, Ricky's one-hitter said:

It is hilarious and telling to me that fOSU chose not to hire a WR coach when they promoted Hartline. They have a co-oc who has never called plays, paired with an oc who has never called plays, working for a head coach that prides himself on calling plays. 

Who do you think is actually calling the offense on Saturday? 

Joe Wickline. 

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4 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

You're not going to gaslight a board of fanatics who have studied your team for 9 months and actively monitored your forums and read all of your insider updates as if they were our own. 

-You do not have 4 returning OL starters. Starting a few games in the playoffs or post-injury is not what classifies a player as a returning starter. If that were the case, Texas also has 4 returning OL starters because Hutson has started like 14 games in his career, Goosby started 2-3 late last year and Robertson started a game or two back in 2022 or 2023. 

-TE is debatable. You guys love your guys and Klare is a stud. Texas loves Endries and its other guys as well. Both programs have highly ranked guys in the TE room and both starters put up great numbers for mediocre to shitty teams last year. You guys seem to want to clearly demarcate an advantage there and it's bullshit.

-Downs =/= an entire secondary. You don't even know who is actually going to start at the other safety spot yet. Igbinonigniminious is a penalty machine. He was burnt more than bad toast last season and forced into PI and holding penalties against anyone of value. The other CB position will feature a new guy. Texas also returns an AA at Safety. Texas also returns two other starters at Safety/NB and a better returning starter at CB in Muhammad than what OSU has in Igbo. Texas is in the same position of putting a new, highly recruited starter at CB, whoever wins the job. 

-Texas evaluated Peoples and passed. We were fine as recruitniks watching you guys take him out of state. Donaldson has taken more bullets than a gun range dummy and Bo Jackson is actively in the process of passing him on the depth chart. Texas has 5 guys it can rotate at RB, one of whom is a returning 1,000 yard rusher and two others who were classified as the highest rated RB in the country coming out of high school. So, no, Ohio State doesn't have some sort of RB advantage. 

-You and everyone else talking about Manning being advantaged over Sayin simply because he's taken more snaps are whistling past the notion that Manning might also just be a lot fucking better than your 5'11' statue with a nice hairdo. 

-None of this matters as much as the disadvantage your OL will actually have on the field against the Texas front 7. That imbalance doesn't shake out in the other direction. Good luck keeping your QB upright on Saturday. 

Responding to a couple points - yes, Igbinosun is a penalty nightmare which drives OSU fans BONKERS, but he also makes a lot of great plays and is a net positive overall.  His ridiculous interception at PSU might have been the difference in the game.  And at the other CB spot, Mathews is not really a "new guy" - he's played a lot and played well.  For RB, we've seen enough of Peoples to know he's going to be good - and as I said any advantage OSU has there is probably contingent on TX RB health.

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9 minutes ago, Borrominion said:

I'm not trying to gaslight anybody - it's just, like, my opinion, man.  The biggest thing I'm getting out of this now is that we've entered into a QB hairdo debate.  Everything else we'll just have to see on the field.

you've gone from all but 1 or 2 groups in your favor to we'll just have to see on the field

fine

your gaslight post is not just your opinions

your boards and 995 have manufactured the same bs in the last 72 hours out of whole cloth

in addition to ctj's dismemberment of your gaslight post, we have an eraser that's going to wear the comms helmet and make the calls for a constant rotation of mean machine

we'll see how your 'returning starters' hold up

/zen master, we'll see

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1 hour ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

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It is wild reading those mouth-breathers' boards. Every position is a position of strength and possibly the best ever. Every inexperienced incoming player is better than the outgoing All American who was taken in the top half of the NFL draft. Manning is a first year QB and will look like one, spending the whole afternoon on his back and rattled by the Legend, Matt Patricia's, exotic schemes. The Ohio State laundering staff won't even have to wash Sayin's jersey come Saturday night. He'll just hand it off all day to their elite RBs who will gouge Texas' Downy-soft defensive line. Already better than Manning, the veteran Buckeye signal-caller is sure to complete most of his passes, but might skillfully throw one or two away like a veteran Drew Brees or Tom Brady. Their backs will run for 15 yards on 2nd and 10 anyway. Dumb motherfuckers.

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30 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Did any rookie QB do that well against our D last year? I know we played against a few due to injuries. Maybe the kid from Kentucky did okay I guess. And the ASU QB, but there was a lot of weirdness in that game 

The ASU QB was ass my dude.  Most of his success came from scrambles.  Cutter Boley had some success only to crater in the red zone when Hill came after him.  Our 'corch on the field' will direct the secondary to one if not two interceptions.  He might have one himself.  We don't turn the ball over and we win going away I think.

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3 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

you've gone from all but 1 or 2 groups in your favor to we'll just have to see on the field

fine

your gaslight post is not just your opinions

your boards and 995 have manufactured the same bs in the last 72 hours out of whole cloth

in addition to ctj's dismemberment of your gaslight post, we have an eraser that's going to wear the comms helmet and make the calls for a constant rotation of mean machine

we'll see how your 'returning starters' hold up

/zen master, we'll see

I've only stated that I think OSU has an advantage at certain positions (WR, possibly OL / DB / TE / RB) which shouldn't really be such a shock, nor can it represent anything other than my guesses - what else would it be?  And of course TX has the chance to prove me wrong, such is the point of the game.

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41 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I know this is pathetic, but one of the most entertaining periods as a poster on the longhorn boards for me spanned from the hiring of Charlie Strong to the aftermath of the first Notre Dame game in year 2.

I was miserable as a fan of the program, but being on the boards was somewhat therapeutic because there were posters everywhere showing their true colors as absolute imbeciles. Beyond some sort of idiotic personal need for Charlie Strong to actually be worth a fuck, and tied to that, was the constant rationalizing of Shawn Watson as a legitimate choice and employee in the role of Offensive Coordinator.

It was cheap entertainment, but I'm not a snob. Lampooning people pitching for the guy "after watching film on YouTube" before the 2014 season all the way through "Watson has completely overhauled the offense!" heading into the 2015 season was the only happiness I could find as a fan at that time.

Jeff Howe wrote a series of articles on 247 that 2015 summer with insider quotes and his own analysis about how the offense was being changed. I would show up on the thread for each article with one or two sentences mocking his takes and a mass of $9.95er lemmings would climb over themselves to attack me and defend Howe and Watson. Pulling all of that up after the 38-3 wonderment in South Bend was one of the most gleeful and villainous moments of my posting experience. 

It took me about two offensive series to realize that Watson's offensive "overhaul" consisted of taking all of the same plays as last year from the shotgun. That is when I went full on PTSD mode into the void. 

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1 hour ago, BrazilHorn said:

The thing about Matt P is that Belicheck led a lot of the defensive build out and scheme. These guys acting like Patricia is some kind of savant are funny. He failed everywhere else he has been once he couldn’t leverage Belicheck and also Brady at QB helping take pressure off the Pats defense. 
 

This is like giving Kyle Flood credit for Texas’ offensive success in terms of scheme/playcalling

Or Greg Davis winning the Broyles Award (because he had VY). 

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1 minute ago, Fondren & Main said:

The ASU QB was ass my dude.  Most of his success came from scrambles.  Cutter Boley had some success only to crater in the red zone when Hill came after him.  Our 'corch on the field' will direct the secondary to one if not two interceptions.  He might have one himself.  We don't turn the ball over and we win going away I think.

That guy was not ass vs Texas. I watched that game and gained a lot of respect for that kid. He got the living shit beat out of him and had 0 WRs to work with in that game. Not saying he is a 1st round QB, but I dont get the "was ass my dude" comment based on the conditions he was forced to play in. 

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22 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

You're not going to gaslight a board of fanatics who have studied your team for 9 months and actively monitored your forums and read all of your insider updates as if they were our own. 

-You do not have 4 returning OL starters. Starting a few games in the playoffs or post-injury is not what classifies a player as a returning starter. If that were the case, Texas also has 4 returning OL starters because Hutson has started like 14 games in his career, Goosby started 2-3 late last year and Robertson started a game or two back in 2022 or 2023. 

-TE is debatable. You guys love your guys and Klare is a stud. Texas loves Endries and its other guys as well. Both programs have highly ranked guys in the TE room and both starters put up great numbers for mediocre to shitty teams last year. You guys seem to want to clearly demarcate an advantage there and it's bullshit.

-Downs =/= an entire secondary. You don't even know who is actually going to start at the other safety spot yet. Igbinonigniminious is a penalty machine. He was burnt more than bad toast last season and forced into PI and holding penalties against anyone of value. The other CB position will feature a new guy. Texas also returns an AA at Safety. Texas also returns two other starters at Safety/NB and a better returning starter at CB in Muhammad than what OSU has in Igbo. Texas is in the same position of putting a new, highly recruited starter at CB, whoever wins the job. 

-Texas evaluated Peoples and passed. We were fine as recruitniks watching you guys take him out of state. Donaldson has taken more bullets than a gun range dummy and Bo Jackson is actively in the process of passing him on the depth chart. Texas has 5 guys it can rotate at RB, one of whom is a returning 1,000 yard rusher and two others who were classified as the highest rated RB in the country coming out of high school. So, no, Ohio State doesn't have some sort of RB advantage. 

-You and everyone else talking about Manning being advantaged over Sayin simply because he's taken more snaps are whistling past the notion that Manning might also just be a lot fucking better than your 5'11' statue with a nice hairdo. 

-None of this matters as much as the disadvantage your OL will actually have on the field against the Texas front 7. That imbalance doesn't shake out in the other direction. Good luck keeping your QB upright on Saturday. 

Love all of this except Sayin is a pretty mobile dude from what I understand. I think he is more likely to spook himself out of the pocket than to sit back and be cannon fodder for our edges. 

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2 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

It took me about two offensive series to realize that Watson's offensive "overhaul" consisted of taking all of the same plays as last year from the shotgun. That is when I went full on PTSD mode into the void. 

Every time a see Watson's name I remember the story of the players havign to hold Les Koenning back for kicking Watson's ass in practice. 

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12 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Man, if we god forbid don’t win, your posts are gonna age like milk, as bad as mine did running up to the election. We might be shunned from surly together 🤣

I'm not guaranteeing a win. I'm merely pointing out the absurdity of the claims being made about all of these suddenly conjured OSU "advantages". They have one clear advantage - they possess the best WR room in the country. Never mind the fact that Texas held JJ Smith to 3 yards and 1 catch 8 months ago, I acknowledge freely that the OSU WR room is awesome. Outside of that, these are 2 of the 3 best rosters in college football 2025. Anyone claiming a bunch of OSU advantages otherwise is attempting to read the future in tea leaves. 

9 minutes ago, Borrominion said:

Responding to a couple points - yes, Igbinosun is a penalty nightmare which drives OSU fans BONKERS, but he also makes a lot of great plays and is a net positive overall.  His ridiculous interception at PSU might have been the difference in the game.  And at the other CB spot, Mathews is not really a "new guy" - he's played a lot and played well.  For RB, we've seen enough of Peoples to know he's going to be good - and as I said any advantage OSU has there is probably contingent on TX RB health.

"New guy" meant new starter. I figured that was kind of obvious. Guilbeau has been at Texas for 3 seasons. He won't be new to the field either. 

Peoples looks fine. You're comparing him to a room with multiple players ranked higher than him out of high school or with better numbers and experience than him in college, and Baxter has him in both regards, and then saying "gee, I think we might have a better RB room". That's objectively comical. 

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I mean we've read all camp about our OL getting their asses kicked, we're still shuffling players this week to find our best 5 and the tackle we probably felt the best about on the entire line is injured, "likely" playing (but OTF still hedging and I think we all know he would be sitting if this was Sam Houston and not OSU), we've lost our #3 tackle for the year and I don't know if anyone knows definitely who goes in this game if Goosby gets reinjured, is ineffective or god forbid gets sidelined by training staff last minute.  Given that, I'm completely fine giving OSU the edge at OL even if they are fucking average.  My expectations are incredibly low for our OL play.  It's not like we didn't witness first hand the downside of an injured tackle playing against OSU in the last game we played. I hope I'm completely wrong.  I'm also pretty optimistic that by mid-season they are a pretty solid group if healthy.  Just a tough draw + injury luck to start the year.

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